TTC After a Loss

---Trouble TTCAL : August edition---

Welcome to the monthly thread/check-in for those of us TTCAL while working with an RE (or not) to address issues around Infertility, Repeat-Loss, Trouble TTC, IUI/IVF/Medicated Cycles... You get the idea! 

1. Intro 

2. Status (stims, WTO, TWW, benched, etc.)

3. Rants/Raves/Questions

4. GTKY: Do you and DH/Partner have a plan for how "far" you are willing to go with treatment cycles?


 

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Re: ---Trouble TTCAL : August edition---

  • 1. Intro ... TTC #2 after a loss in November 2015. Currently on first IVF cycle.

    2. Status (stims, WTO, TWW, benched, etc.) At the moment I am on estrace and estrogen patch getting ready for my FET, tentatively scheduled for 8/11.

    3. Rants/Raves/Questions...Not much, things are quiet. As I've mentioned before my brain has been much calmer lately. The intense crying and deep depression of my time on birth control has finally come to an end and I'm loving life on lots of estrogen. I actually feel better emotionally than I have in a long time on the estrogen, so much so it has me wondering if I was possibly deficient in some way, though I imagine that's unlikely. 

    4. GTKY: Do you and DH/Partner have a plan for how "far" you are willing to go with treatment cycles?
    No solid plan, but I know for my own mental health, I'm going to need to call this TTC business a day at some point. Since we started TTC almost 5 years ago to date, I feel like I have spent so much time grieving what I thought our family was going to look like "x many kids, done with TTC by x age". I look forward to the day I feel at peace where things are at. Hopefully that happens? My therapist and I are talking about this at the moment, so it's been on my mind.
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  • 1. Intro: Still TTC #1, since March 2014. 2 losses and a few chemicals

    2. Status (stims, WTO, TWW, benched, etc.): 2ww, though mine is really a 10dw, and as of today is a just under 7dw!

    3. Rants/Raves/Questions: I can't be the only one who has to actively restrict my Dr. Googling, right? Also: hot dogs. It's been a long while since I've had hot dogs, since DH got really sick once after eating some. We discovered this great hot dog cart on the Santa Monica Pier, and DH has been obsessed since, so I've been buying them for at home too. We have this cool griddle that is part of our stove, so I don't even need to get a pan dirty to make them!

    4. GTKY: Do you and DH/Partner have a plan for how "far" you are willing to go with treatment cycles?: Uhm, we haven't really discussed it. We've decided that if this cycle doesn't work, we'll do another stim cycle with PGS testing. After that, it may be time to give up and discuss other options.
    About us:
    Me - 28, Lean PCOS
    DH - 31
    Married June 2010, TTC since March 2014
    Blog: ourbinarystar.com

    FET cycle #3 Transfer July 28th 2016, Triplets born healthy on February 26th 2017 at 33w1d!

  • Thanks for getting this started @BornReady.  I am glad you are feeling better emotionally.  I remember taking one BCP in particular back in the day (and of course I cannot remember the name) that drove me somewhere really dark, they can be awful.  

    @AandDM2014 agree on googling.  And the hot dogs thing is funny...sounds like you have a kitchen/stove I would be jealous of!  Can you make pancakes on the griddle?  

    AFM...

    1. TTC#1/AL since July 2014...so I guess we are just passing the 2-year mark. We had a loss discovered at 11w in January and a CP in June, both were from IUI cycles.

    2. Stims.  Menopur, Follistim, and estradiol, currently.  I have acupuncture this morning and will be going to the RE tomorrow.  This will be day 3 of stims for me, so I'm just hoping I respond how I'm supposed to and get a few embabies out of this.  But trying not to get my hopes up.  

    3.  Do have some questions right now.  I am finding the Follistim pretty easy to inject, but the Menopur is tougher.  I've had DH do it because it's hard for me to manage the syringe--it's a 1 mL syringe and we have to inject 1 mL of meds, so the plunger is really far out and I find it hard to do a steady & fast injection.  Even when he does it, it doesn't go all that fast.  Any tips?  And looking ahead, if you had an intramuscular trigger shot, did your partner do it?  My RE office will draw a circle on me so he gets the spot right, but they also offer to have a nurse come to your house and do it (it costs more, but in the scheme of things not a lot).  I'm wondering if that would be less stress, although DH is totally willing.  

    4. I really don't know.  We are racing against losing our insurance coverage that has partial infertility coverage at the end of September.  If this IVF fails and we lose that insurance, we might go back to IUIs, we might take a break, I don't know.  I didn't feel quite ready for IVF, although now that I'm started, I feel better.  Another one isn't off the table for us, but I just don't know if we would take a little break or what, since it'd be out of pocket entirely after we lose this particular coverage.  I never thought I would do IVF, and here I am, so who knows.

     
    About me:
    /loss mentioned/
    TTC#1 July 2014
    dx: MFI (morphology)
    IUI #1 w/Clomid + Ovidrel Sept. 2015 ~ BFN
    IUI #2 w/Clomid + Ovidrel Halloween 2015 ~ BFN
    IUI #3 w/Clomid + Ovidrel Thanksgiving 2015 ~ BFP!!
    hb 146 bpm at 7w5d
    1/28/16 ~ began to say goodbye to our beautiful baby at 11w 
    d&c, followed by cytotec
    TTCAL April 2016
    IUI #4 w/Clomid + Ovidrel Apr. 2016 ~ BFN
    IUI #5 w/Clomid + Ovidrel ~ CP
    IUI#6 w/Clomid + Ovidrel ~ BFN
  • @BrightenMySky I did an intramuscular trigger shot for my egg retrievel. My DH did the shot after watching a million videos on YouTube and our pharmacy "Village Pharmacy" website. I had built it up to be a big deal, but it really wasn't painful at all. He did the shot and I massaged the area a little afterward to move the medicine in at the advice of a video. I chose the butt cheek over the thigh as I was told that was the least uncomfortable option.

    @AandDM2014 Excited for the days ticking down in your "2ww"!
  • Intro: TTC #1 After 5 losses. First loss was in early 2013. 

    2. Status (stims, WTO, TWW, benched, etc.): TWW, 9dpIUI. Beta is on Thursday. Not reading into anything too much, because progesterone mirrors my pregnancy symptoms so much. Just have to wait and see. Either I am or I'm not! 

    3. Rants/Raves/Questions: had a great weekend, totally rearranged, repainted and redecorated our living room yesterday. Looks great! Was a lot of work, but DH was motivated and we had fun doing it together. I took today off because I want to run some errands to finish it up. 

    4. GTKY: Do you and DH/Partner have a plan for how "far" you are willing to go with treatment cycles? We have talked about this numerous times. We have decided we can only make the decision when it's actually time, not in advance. Our plan right now, if this one didn't take is to try two more IUIs, then we would discuss IVF with a donor egg and adoption. 

    @AandDM2014 lay off the Google! ;) And good luck with your week wait! 

    @BornReady so glad you're feeling better. I can't imagine the extra crazy BCPs would add to my already-nutty head! Happy you can look forward to next week! 

    @BrightenMySky I wonder if you can request a larger syringe. My injectables came from Walgreens specialty pharmacy and weren't that small. It does sound challenging! My SIL gives me all my shots, and lives really nearby so I'm lucky because while DH could do it, I think we would likely both be more anxious about it. I would lean to the nurse doing it if the cost isn't prohibitive, peace of mind may be worth it! 


    Me: 40, DH: 35 / Married: 2009; TTC #1: 2013

    2013 - 2015: 5 pregnancies —> 5 miscarriages

    TTCAL with RE (RPL specialist): February 2016

    2016: 3 medicated TI cycles —> 3 medicated IUI cycles: All BFN

    Donor Egg IVF Transfer: May 1, 2017

    May 11, 2017: BFP!! Beta #1: 449.1, Beta #2: 844, Beta #3: 1714

    EDD: 1/17/18, it's a GIRL!  <3 E. L. A. born 12/7/2017








  • @fivetimesnoluck so many things crossed for you today

    @BornReady getting close to FET, I'm so excited for you!!

    @AandDM2014 glad to hear everything went well. Hope the next two weeks go by fast. 

    1. TTC #1 after 1 MMC and 2 CP

    2. Status (stims, WTO, TWW, benched, etc.) benched. Last sent of testing should be back by the end of this week hopefully. It's DH's genetic disease screen since I'm a carrier for 3 

    3. Rants/Raves/Questions sooooo bored. Just waiting around. 

    4. GTKY: Do you and DH/Partner have a plan for how "far" you are willing to go with treatment cycles?

    i said last week that I will only do 3 rounds of clomid before calling it and moving on. I meant to IVF for 1 try and DH thought I meant for good and we woild be done trying and panicked. He wants to try forever but that's all easy on him. I feel a ton of pressure to keep going but i can't handle any more losses. I know failing RE treatments will be just as much stress.  I would only do one round of IVF and if that doesn't work I'm done. He wants kids so bad and I was against it for years. If we go through comps and IVF with no luck, combine that will all my issues and I will know I was against it for a reason. I have a feeling if it gets to that point it may create a huge problem in or marriage so I'm hoping it doesn't come to that. 
    Me: 30     DH: 31
    Married: 11.12.11
    TTC: Nov 2015
    BFP #1: 1.22.16                 MMC: 2.29.16 ( tetrasomy 11, partial deletion 1, XXX)
    D&C: 3.2.16
    BFP #2: 4.14.16                 CP: 4.17.16
    BFP #3: 6.10.2016             CP: 6.17.2016
    RE appt: 6.27.2016- saline sono all clear
    Chromosome karyotype- Normal both me and DH
    Progenity: + carrier Tay-Sachs, Gaucher's, hemachromatosis. DH: carrier Alpha 1 anti-trypsin
    Clomid + TI Cycle #1: pending  8.15.16
    Fur mom to 2 sled masters: an Alaskan malamute and a malamute wolf hybrid 
    half marathon running, surgery loving trauma hand and reconstructive plastic surgery PA-C
    PCOS, hypothyroid, MTHFR, hx of LEEP in 2006

  • @BrightenMySky I have a 5 burner stove, which has 4 in the usual positions, then one long one in the middle of them that the griddle or a regular....... whatever the things you sit the pots on are called. And yes, I could make pancakes on it! Our kitchen it relatively small-ish, but compared to the one we had at our apartment, it's huge! As for your IM questions, just have your DH watch the video about it on FreedomMedTeach.com. My DH was nervous at first about our IM injections, but now he doesn't even think twice about it. My office too drew circles for DH on both sides (we switch daily for PIO), but he mostly just ignored them and does them where he is comfortable doing them. I find it amazing how/when DHs step up and do these things for us. I have a hard time doing IM shots myself, so I only do them if DH is at work for several hours on either side of our injection window. I too was the same was about IVF, I thought we would not ever get to the point of doing it, purely for $$$ reasons as we are totally OOP, but here we are, potentially having to do a second round. I hope this one goes well for you!

    @BornReady thanks!!

    @fivetimesnoluck I am going to wish nothing but the best for you on Thursday! I hate how progesterone supplements mirror the symptoms so well! And thanks, I'll try my best not to Google!

    @SnobunnieMel Thanks! I hope that in two weeks time I'm feeling good and am pregnant! So sorry you're still benched! Hopefully those results get here quicker than they said! And I get being bored waiting around. I was going stir crazy waiting for my FET cycle to finally start. I hope hope hope that you guys don't get to the point of not having a child! I originally said I would do IVF, then I said I'd only do one round, and now with having no embies left, we're looking at doing a second one. It's amazing how your mind can be changed when it is something you want very badly.
    About us:
    Me - 28, Lean PCOS
    DH - 31
    Married June 2010, TTC since March 2014
    Blog: ourbinarystar.com

    FET cycle #3 Transfer July 28th 2016, Triplets born healthy on February 26th 2017 at 33w1d!

  • @fivetimesnoluck FX for you on Thursday!!

    @SnobunnieMel been thinking of you.  Waiting for results is the worst.  

    1. Intro:  TTC #1 for two years now, 1 CP & 1 MC

    2. Status (stims, WTO, TWW, benched, etc.):  

    WTO, CD14.  This was probably my last round on 200mg of Clomid + hcg trigger.  Today my follicles weren't mature enough for the shot and the nurse thinks it was an anovulatory cycle so it looks like I am moving onto shots next month.

    3. Rants/Raves/Questions:

     My second EDD was yesterday and I was ok until my appointment this morning.  I really don't want to be the person who is bitter and resentful of others and their babies; I'm literally the best at faking happiness for people I don't care about but it's exhausting.  I am genuinely happy for some friends/family but other than that, I feel like I am starting to slip towards being really cynical about this whole thing.  

    4. GTKY: Do you and DH/Partner have a plan for how "far" you are willing to go with treatment cycles?  

    We are pretty much willing to do whatever it takes.  I have to call our insurance again to see if/what part of IVF they cover but regardless, we'd do it.  I don't know how many times we'd do it and I feel like we are far enough away from that but not so far where we shouldn't talk about it.  
  • NewMommyCoopNewMommyCoop member
    edited August 2016
    Lurking -
    @BornReady - I am glad you are feeling better after getting off BCP. FX for your FET

    @AandDM2014 and @fivetimesnoluck - I really hope this one is it for both of you! FX!

    @SnobunnieMel - I'm sorry you're in that place. I know that for me I am always thinking about whether or not it was meant to be. I question why I ever got pregnant in the first if it wasn't meant be, then question if it was meant to be, why hasn't it happened. It's a terrible mind game. I hope the results come back soon and are favorable.
    **TW - Loss & Child mentioned**
    Me: 40  DH: 47
    Married: 10/2015
    DSD: 17
    BFP #1: 6/2/15, ectopic, metho 7/15
    BFP #2: 12/4/15, cp 12/7/15
    BFP #3: 8/5/16, MMC discovered 9/1, Misoprostol 9/19
    BFP #4: 5/10/17, EDD 1/20/2018
    Baby boy born January 12, 2018, 6 lbs 3.3 oz, 20.5 in.

  • @Aera11 I"m sorry your ovaries aren't responding to the meds this month and that your EDD was yesterday. It's hard to have to pretend to be happy. I honestly don't know how people "recover" from infertility and loss, it's a life altering experience that has definitely impacted my happiness.

    @snobunniemel The waiting part of working on testing/treatment is brutal. Just killing time. FX you get some answers on DH's genetic screening soon and you can get some ideas for moving forward. 
  • Thank you @BornReady.  You're completely right when you say it is 'life altering'.  I am right there with you grieving the loss of what 'I thought my family would look like by this stage of my life'.  People tell me I am young or that I have time, but none of that should matter.  In my mind, I had a completely different life paved out.  I knew there would be bumps in the journey, but was blindly unaware of how those bumps have had a lasting impact on me and DH.
  • @SnobunnieMel I hope you get some answers with the genetic screening soon.  

    @fivetimesnoluck thanks.  I had monitoring this morning, and my RE gave me some larger syringes, and also said I can mix it in 1/2 mL instead of 1 mL.  That may sting a little more, but I'm planning to try it, because the idea of only having to inject half the volume is pretty appealing.  Fingers crossed for you, hope the rest of the tww goes by quickly!  (Same for you @AandDM2014  on the tww!)

    @Aera11 hugs about your due date.  I have also been feeling pretty cynical lately.  I hope you have the time and space to feel what you need to feel.  I hear you that faking enthusiasm is so exhausting.  

    @BornReady I agree, I don't think I'll ever get over infertility and loss, even if I am one day fortunate to have both full arms and a full heart. 

    My monitoring this morning was ok.  I feel like my RE is very relaxed in a way that I generally like, but I am also starting to worry that he is hiding bad news from me, like everything is going terribly and he just doesn't want to stress me out, which I know is basically bordering on irrational (kind of like impostor syndrome).  We'll see what the bw says and if I have to change up my meds.  And even if I do have to change the doses, I am trying to tell myself that it's a learning process and the point is to make these adjustments to try to get the best response my body can give.  

    If everything goes well and I am able to do a fresh transfer, it might end up being right around my due date for my first pregnancy.  One of my coworkers yesterday asked me if the due date was coming up, and it felt so good to have someone else acknowledge it.  I feel like I'm going to get all of these birthday wishes (also right around the due date) and get really sad that even the people who know about that loss seem to have forgotten.  

    About me:
    /loss mentioned/
    TTC#1 July 2014
    dx: MFI (morphology)
    IUI #1 w/Clomid + Ovidrel Sept. 2015 ~ BFN
    IUI #2 w/Clomid + Ovidrel Halloween 2015 ~ BFN
    IUI #3 w/Clomid + Ovidrel Thanksgiving 2015 ~ BFP!!
    hb 146 bpm at 7w5d
    1/28/16 ~ began to say goodbye to our beautiful baby at 11w 
    d&c, followed by cytotec
    TTCAL April 2016
    IUI #4 w/Clomid + Ovidrel Apr. 2016 ~ BFN
    IUI #5 w/Clomid + Ovidrel ~ CP
    IUI#6 w/Clomid + Ovidrel ~ BFN
  • @BrightenMySky isn't monitoring so strange, I felt like a science experiment every time. I just always try and remind myself that these people are super smart and I should try and trust them. How exciting that you're planning a fresh transfer! Are you doing any embryo testing ?
  • @BornReady I like that a lot.  And yes, I think we are going to plan for a fresh transfer.  If we end up with lots of embryos, we'd probably test at that point (although potentially do a fresh transfer and then test the rest?).  Testing is not medically indicated for us right now (my first loss was triploidy of paternal origin, which is not an egg quality indicator, according to my RE, and will be prevented by ICSI in any case).  And having more info is appealing, but I also just don't know if I want to put myself through more waiting right now.  I just really really really hope we have something to transfer at this point.  
    About me:
    /loss mentioned/
    TTC#1 July 2014
    dx: MFI (morphology)
    IUI #1 w/Clomid + Ovidrel Sept. 2015 ~ BFN
    IUI #2 w/Clomid + Ovidrel Halloween 2015 ~ BFN
    IUI #3 w/Clomid + Ovidrel Thanksgiving 2015 ~ BFP!!
    hb 146 bpm at 7w5d
    1/28/16 ~ began to say goodbye to our beautiful baby at 11w 
    d&c, followed by cytotec
    TTCAL April 2016
    IUI #4 w/Clomid + Ovidrel Apr. 2016 ~ BFN
    IUI #5 w/Clomid + Ovidrel ~ CP
    IUI#6 w/Clomid + Ovidrel ~ BFN
  • @BornReady that is a beautiful quote and made me tear up, I needed that today thank you
    TW*** Child and loss mentioned
    Married 10/12
    DS 11/14
    Ectopic 2/16
    PCOS/Ovulation Dysfunction 11/16
    IUI x 3- BFN
    Laparoscopy 3/17 Endo and tubal damage
    IVF- 4/17- 40 eggs retrieved, 10 blasts, 7 pgs tested embryos
    FET- 6/17- BFP!
    Due Feb 15, 2017
  • 1.) TTC #1 after 2 late First Trimester losses. I'm 37 so we are being pretty proactive.

    2.) Right smack dab in the middle of RPL testing. My first 9 blood tests looked great! Still waiting on AMH and APL and karotype tests. 

    3.) Today is my HSG which I'm dreading. These antibiotics I'm on are making me nauseous. Haven't scheduled my saline sonogram yet, but I'd imagine it would have to be this week since they do it CD 6-12 typically. I am a little less concerned about scarring after I had a lighter but seemingly normal AF. Drinking my raspberry tea like crazy in hopes that it helps build up normal lining. 

    4.) GTKY We are just in the beginning stages working with an RE so we haven't set any real limits yet. We did decide that unless my AMH was shockingly low or the RE gives us another reason for concern that we would try again naturally. If I have a 3rd MC due to chromonsonal abnormality, we will do IVF +PGS. We've also decided that if I have another pregnancy with abysmal beta at 6 weeks that we would go to Family Planning Associates and get cytotech there if my OB won't prescribe bc there's a HB. It's absolutely heartbreaking and horrible, but my body holds on to bad pregnancies a long time. I can't have another D&C at 12 weeks and I can't keep wasting my few fertile years I have left on bad pregnancies. So that may be a limit that I have that others do not. 

    @bornready your FET is so soon! Fx everything goes smoothly up to that point!

    @BrightenMySky I totally empathize with the need to use your fertility coverage while you ha rut. We've had amazing coverage at my job for 10 years, but every year they threaten to get rid of it. Part of the reason we decided on testing now was bc we knew insurance would pay for it. Fx everything goes well for you!

    @Aera11 I'm so sorry about you disappointing cycle. 

    @fivetimesnoluck Sending good vibes your way!! I'm hoping for a BFP from you this week!
  • 1. Intro:
    I've been on the site for a few months, but first time posting to this type of thread. MMC confirmed 3/31, D&C 4/2, TTCAL May 2016. Still seeing regular OB, but considering seeing RE if I don't get BFP by October. 

    2. Status (stims, WTO, TWW, benched, etc.)
    Surprise AF on Saturday, so waiting to O. On CD 4, so just took this cycle's first Clomid pills this morning. 

    3. Rants/Raves/Questions
    I have a huge jealousy issue with other people who are doing well with pregnancy or have children. I'm happy for them, but envious because I don't have my own. I really wish my cycles were easier to track. I really don't know how many days each one will be. The last one was 60 days, this one was 40. I'm also disappointed that I didn't get pregnant last cycle. I was really really praying for it. I was really sick with tonsillitis last cycle, and skipped out on about 6 days of BD. I know that was the reason why, but I guess I was kind of being superstitious because the last time I got pregnant, I was TTC while I was sick. So much for being hopeful. 

    4. GTKY: Do you and DH/Partner have a plan for how "far" you are willing to go with treatment cycles?
    For religious/personal moral reasons, we will do anything except IVF. I know it works for so many people, but it's just not right for me and my DH. We've strongly considered adoption if we can't conceive on our own. This is such a depressing thing to think about... I hope it doesn't ever get to this point, but we have talked about it. If all else fails, we are going to be dog parents, I guess and travel a lot. Wow, that really kills me to even think about our last options. 

    Me: 28 DH: 29
    Married: 4-25-2014
    TTC: March 2015
    BFP: 2-18-16
    Confirmed MMC: 3-31-16
    D&C: 4-2-16
    TTCAL: May 2016
    IUI: 5/13/17-Femara and Trigger, POAS 5/27/17 BFP 5/27/17



    BabyFruit Ticker
  • @BornReady a blogger I follow posted that the other day and it resonated with me. 
  • Good luck with your hsg @chloe97!
  • @Aera11 probably the same one as me, someone tagged me from her instagram. The freckled Fox?
  • @chloe97 good luck wit your HSG today! I actually threw up from the antibiotics they gave me ahead of time, so nasty. I hope everything is all clear.
    TW*** Child and loss mentioned
    Married 10/12
    DS 11/14
    Ectopic 2/16
    PCOS/Ovulation Dysfunction 11/16
    IUI x 3- BFN
    Laparoscopy 3/17 Endo and tubal damage
    IVF- 4/17- 40 eggs retrieved, 10 blasts, 7 pgs tested embryos
    FET- 6/17- BFP!
    Due Feb 15, 2017
  • 1. Intro Hey guys - I belong here but for different reasons... as some of you may have read from my previous posts, we found out we are genetic carriers of a rare and usually fatal disease. Our loss was due to this and we have a 1 in 4 change of if happening again. every pregnancy.

    2. Status (stims, WTO, TWW, benched, etc.) TWW ( slim chance this month) starting initial bloodwork for IVF with PGD ( genetic diagnosis) and navigating appointments and insurance issues. fun. trying to keep my eye on the prize.

    3. Rants/Raves/Questions Just so much. I've googled and read as much as I can. We are going forward with IVF/ PGD and hoping for healthy embryos. We were told we are good candidates. I'm nervous about so many things.

    4. GTKY: Do you and DH/Partner have a plan for how "far" you are willing to go with treatment cycles?
    Yes - Right now that plan is to try for IVF for 1 cycle and see what happens. If we want to continue we will try another cycle. If we are unsuccessful and want to ttc naturally again we have a backup plan of using this doctor in maryland who can test early ( this is a very new test- but legit)  and we already paid him money for our specific genetic probe. This is also the backup plan if by some chance I get pregnant naturally in between. Either way there is no way in hell I'm waiting till 17 weeks for them to tell me my baby is ok.

    Me:35, DH 37  ~ Married July 2014
    ttc July 2015 ~ bfp Nov 2015 (cp)
    bfp Dec 2015 ~ (tfmr 17wk, March 2016, genetic disease)
    ttcal May 2016
  • @KarenBeth714 I do not blame you for not wanting to wait to 17 weeks to know if everything is okay. That's so great that there is an early test for your genetic condition!

    AFM- I just had a great HSG- tubes open and no evidence of scarring. My consult with the RE isn't for 2 weeks bc we are waiting on DHs karotype. I may try to go early because I'm really curious about my blood test results. So as I mentioned last month, my FSH was 5.8 and my LH/FSH ratio was 1.4- DHEA-S and testerone were both in normal range, but my AMH is like 10.5- which is the exact opposite of what I was worried about as a 37 year old. I'm very concerned that this means PCOS, because I do have the hair growth and thinning head hair, BUT I've had normal periods the 5 cycles off the pill before we TTC. I get pregnant basically whenever I've tried, so I feel like I don't really have PCOS, but what is with the AMH score? Is it just that I'm like packed with eggs at 37? I'm not complaining if that is the case- I'm just confused. I'm thinking about moving up my consult to get answers more quickly!
  • @chloe97 so glad things went well. You sound similar to me. Hair growth, thinning hair, but ovulate every month and get pregnant with most tries. I do have PCOS from elevated testosterone and ratios a few years ago. Your AMH is higher than mine, especially for your age range, so it will be interesting to see what your RE says about it. It can contribute to egg quality. 
    Me: 30     DH: 31
    Married: 11.12.11
    TTC: Nov 2015
    BFP #1: 1.22.16                 MMC: 2.29.16 ( tetrasomy 11, partial deletion 1, XXX)
    D&C: 3.2.16
    BFP #2: 4.14.16                 CP: 4.17.16
    BFP #3: 6.10.2016             CP: 6.17.2016
    RE appt: 6.27.2016- saline sono all clear
    Chromosome karyotype- Normal both me and DH
    Progenity: + carrier Tay-Sachs, Gaucher's, hemachromatosis. DH: carrier Alpha 1 anti-trypsin
    Clomid + TI Cycle #1: pending  8.15.16
    Fur mom to 2 sled masters: an Alaskan malamute and a malamute wolf hybrid 
    half marathon running, surgery loving trauma hand and reconstructive plastic surgery PA-C
    PCOS, hypothyroid, MTHFR, hx of LEEP in 2006

  • RiverSong15RiverSong15 member
    edited August 2016
    @chloe97 that's great news that your test results came back good and that the HSG went well. I'm also curious what your RE says about your AMH, as I'm in the same boat with an elevated AMH and all other test results normal.
  • @RiverSong15- any chance your Testerone or DHEA-S were higher in the normal range? Mine were both higher and I'm now seeing that I actually might be borderline PCOS. It looks like both were right at the cutoff- testosterone-40 and DHEA- 201. So if I am PCOS, it's very borderline. I'm wondering if my super regular cycle between the pill and TTC were due to my great diet and exercise program pre-wedding.
  • @chloe97 My testosterone was normal, not sure where in range, and my DHEAS was actually one point above the upper cutoff. The endocrinologist I saw recently said she didn't see a diagnosis of PCOS based on that, but I'm curious what an actual RE would say. I suspect I may be borderline as well, but every time I've brought up the connection between PCOS and MC, multiple doctors have basically shrugged their shoulders and said I don't have strong signs of PCOS and since I ovulate and get pregnant, there's not much to do. 
  • Interesting @RiverSong15 That's just so discouraging. I would imagine PCOS affects egg quality. It does give me additional incentive to keep eating super healthy and start a strength training program in an attempt to keep the BMI down.
  • @chloe97 yay for a good HSG today! 
    TW*** Child and loss mentioned
    Married 10/12
    DS 11/14
    Ectopic 2/16
    PCOS/Ovulation Dysfunction 11/16
    IUI x 3- BFN
    Laparoscopy 3/17 Endo and tubal damage
    IVF- 4/17- 40 eggs retrieved, 10 blasts, 7 pgs tested embryos
    FET- 6/17- BFP!
    Due Feb 15, 2017
  • @BornReady yes, the Freckled Fox!  My heart breaks for her and her kids.

    @chloe97 wooohooo for a good HSG!  I had two and although super uncomfortable, I felt a huge relief when they were over and all was good.
  • Just thought I'd post an update over here. I had a meltdown yesterday thinking I was ovulating, which is NOT supposed to happen while prepping for FET. I was totally convinced that I was experiencing ovulation symptoms and was going to be cancelled, and even sent a panicked (read crazy person) email to my nurse coordinator. Thankfully, my monitoring appt was this morning and they put me out of my misery around lunch that I had definitely not ovulated, my ovaries were suppressed and I had a cushion-y lining measuring a little more than 10. Phew. 

    I start the crinone tomorrow. It had to be overnighted to me. CVS wouldn't fill it because Blue Cross would only pay for it via the "specialty pharmacy". She told me I could pay out of pocket... I need 60 and they are $38.50 each. Umm no. I paid the over night fee and will have them tomorrow.

    Still on for FET on 8/11! I'm simultaneously excited and petrified that it won't work.

    @nmd9168 How are you doing? Have you finished your clomid?

    @BrightenMySky How is your cycle going so far?

    Any word on test results @chloe97 and @SnobunnieMel?

    @AandDM2014 FX for you as you move through your TWW! I've got it all crossed for you!

    @Aera11 How are things since your last update? 

    Hope everyone is doing well!
  • @BornReady Bummer that you couldn't get it at your local pharmacy, but yay you could get it overnighted to you! I hope your FET goes smoothly! This TWW has been by far the hardest one I've done. Every other time there was always the option to do another FET, but this time around, if it doesn't work, I have to do another stim cycle. That's not a huge deal, but the money involved is massive and I hate spending all this on failing to get pregnant.
    About us:
    Me - 28, Lean PCOS
    DH - 31
    Married June 2010, TTC since March 2014
    Blog: ourbinarystar.com

    FET cycle #3 Transfer July 28th 2016, Triplets born healthy on February 26th 2017 at 33w1d!

  • @bornready DH called the RE office on wednesday which was 2 weeks since they drew his tests and they werent back yet. He was told our doc would call him either today or monday with the results. Seeing as how its the end of the day, looking like monday.

    For all my clomid people, when did you have scans? my RE said he usually does 2, one at the start and one to check follicles. Is it usually cd 1-2?
    Me: 30     DH: 31
    Married: 11.12.11
    TTC: Nov 2015
    BFP #1: 1.22.16                 MMC: 2.29.16 ( tetrasomy 11, partial deletion 1, XXX)
    D&C: 3.2.16
    BFP #2: 4.14.16                 CP: 4.17.16
    BFP #3: 6.10.2016             CP: 6.17.2016
    RE appt: 6.27.2016- saline sono all clear
    Chromosome karyotype- Normal both me and DH
    Progenity: + carrier Tay-Sachs, Gaucher's, hemachromatosis. DH: carrier Alpha 1 anti-trypsin
    Clomid + TI Cycle #1: pending  8.15.16
    Fur mom to 2 sled masters: an Alaskan malamute and a malamute wolf hybrid 
    half marathon running, surgery loving trauma hand and reconstructive plastic surgery PA-C
    PCOS, hypothyroid, MTHFR, hx of LEEP in 2006

  • @SnobunnieMel When I did my Clomid rounds I went in for a baseline on cd2 or 3, then again around cd 12, then however often after I needed to to monitor follicle size and number.
    About us:
    Me - 28, Lean PCOS
    DH - 31
    Married June 2010, TTC since March 2014
    Blog: ourbinarystar.com

    FET cycle #3 Transfer July 28th 2016, Triplets born healthy on February 26th 2017 at 33w1d!

  • @SnobunnieMel I had u/s and bw on cd 2 or 3 before starting Clomid, and then around cd 12 to check follicles. I typically triggered that night and then IUI 2 days later, not sure if that will be relevant for you, but just giving you an idea on timing. 

    @BornReady things are going ok, thanks for asking. Started ganirelix this morning. Have been going in every other day. My arms are getting bruised from the draws, and I'm pretty bloated. Yesterday I had two follicles on each side all the same size. I keep telling myself that it's quality over quantity, and it's also possible there will be more measurable ones to be seen. Doing acupuncture and trying to keep stress down. Excited for your FET! 
    About me:
    /loss mentioned/
    TTC#1 July 2014
    dx: MFI (morphology)
    IUI #1 w/Clomid + Ovidrel Sept. 2015 ~ BFN
    IUI #2 w/Clomid + Ovidrel Halloween 2015 ~ BFN
    IUI #3 w/Clomid + Ovidrel Thanksgiving 2015 ~ BFP!!
    hb 146 bpm at 7w5d
    1/28/16 ~ began to say goodbye to our beautiful baby at 11w 
    d&c, followed by cytotec
    TTCAL April 2016
    IUI #4 w/Clomid + Ovidrel Apr. 2016 ~ BFN
    IUI #5 w/Clomid + Ovidrel ~ CP
    IUI#6 w/Clomid + Ovidrel ~ BFN
  • @AandDM2014 @BrightenMySky thanks so much! just helps to plan when i will need to plan ahead for appointments. we will being doing a trigger but just timed BD, no IUI this time since mine is more for egg quality and being able to time ovulation better to start progesterone
    Me: 30     DH: 31
    Married: 11.12.11
    TTC: Nov 2015
    BFP #1: 1.22.16                 MMC: 2.29.16 ( tetrasomy 11, partial deletion 1, XXX)
    D&C: 3.2.16
    BFP #2: 4.14.16                 CP: 4.17.16
    BFP #3: 6.10.2016             CP: 6.17.2016
    RE appt: 6.27.2016- saline sono all clear
    Chromosome karyotype- Normal both me and DH
    Progenity: + carrier Tay-Sachs, Gaucher's, hemachromatosis. DH: carrier Alpha 1 anti-trypsin
    Clomid + TI Cycle #1: pending  8.15.16
    Fur mom to 2 sled masters: an Alaskan malamute and a malamute wolf hybrid 
    half marathon running, surgery loving trauma hand and reconstructive plastic surgery PA-C
    PCOS, hypothyroid, MTHFR, hx of LEEP in 2006

  • @SnobunnieMel My RE actually didn't do a baseline. I'm not sure why. They wanted to schedule a monitoring ultrasound/bloodwork on CD 13 of my cycle to check LH/estrogen via bloodwork and follicle count. One thing I would recommend would be to take into account when you normally ovulate. I requested to come in earlier than cd 13 because I tend to ovulate early and luckily did because my follicles were already pretty sizable when I went in on CD 10 and I triggered that night.
  • @BornReady I finish my pills tomorrow. I'm trying to be hopeful. I'm so sorry that you had that mini freak out moment. Insurance can be so annoying too... mine still hasn't decided whether or not they will cover my D&C. It's been 4 months.
    Me: 28 DH: 29
    Married: 4-25-2014
    TTC: March 2015
    BFP: 2-18-16
    Confirmed MMC: 3-31-16
    D&C: 4-2-16
    TTCAL: May 2016
    IUI: 5/13/17-Femara and Trigger, POAS 5/27/17 BFP 5/27/17



    BabyFruit Ticker
  • @BornReady holy crap that is expensive!  So glad they were able to overnight them to you.  I will be thinking of you and keep us posted on everything!!

    @SnobunnieMel I'm on 200mg of Clomid and go in for a CD3 scan if I had an anovulatory cycle, otherwise I just go in CD14 (and then again if there aren't follicles measuring 18 or larger) and then CD28 to see my RE.  This was hopefully my last round of Clomid before I move onto shots.  I started at 50 and have now done 3 cycles at 200 and I know they usually don't recommend a higher dosage.

    As for me, my follicles only grew from 12 to 15 so I did not get an HCG shot and my temps are still pretty low so I am thinking this was an anovulatory cycle.  I am so annoyed with my body, I feel like it is failing me and the one thing it's supposed to do. Ugh. I think for me what is really difficult is the inconsistency with my cycles.  I can have the same treatment and end up with polar opposite results.  

    Question:  has anyone done injectable gonadotropin (<---- that word is annoying to type)?  It is sounding like that is the next course of action for me but I won't know for sure until I see my RE next Friday.  
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