Waiting to O - TTCAL

BornReady · April 2016

Thought I would start this open-ended thread as a complement to "TWW Crazies" for us WTO ladies.

This is not meant to be a daily or even weekly check-in, but could be a place to ask questions, rant, rave, seek opinions etc. while waiting to ovulate.

BornReady · April 2016

CD 1 here and have gone back and forth with the RE and insurance all day. I must say miscarriage and infertility are great lessons in the health care system in that you are your own best advocate. I was told today I'd have to wait another cycle to start treatment in order for them to get an insurance auth which they said would take 2 weeks. If it wasn't for me calling Blue Cross on my own I would have been benched a whole month, when in fact no authorization was even needed in my insurance plan.

SnobunnieMel · April 2016

Way to be proactive @BornReady
Hope you get your treatments soon

im on I guess CD4. Had a CP this weekend but bleeding was less than 48 hours so much shorter than a usual period. I'm guessing that's all there is wth that. Who know how messed up my O will be between the d&c and then this now. Just overall frustrated. Feeling defective. Not even sure I want to try this month but don't want to then put a possible rainbow that much farther away.

Sorry it seems dear diary. Just feeling lost right now.

catiecatp · April 2016

I'm glad you took the initiative to call - though it sucks that you had to.

CD6 here - and an appointment with my wonderful GP tomorrow. I'm collecting notes on what to talk about - there are some things non-TTC, but the main issue is my short LP. I'm not sure there is anything to be done at this stage since I'm only at the start of cycle 5 post loss. But with LP of 6, 10, 8 and 9 days - I'm worried and want a plan. I figure worst case scenario she tells me I'm still stabilizing post loss but gives me a timeline of when I should worry.

Appointment with my naturopath is currently scheduled for next week - but I'm about to call to see if I can bump it earlier. Because that would be CD14 - I usually ovulate CD16-18, but I'd rather have a larger buffer. I have more faith in the naturopath for this issue - but blood work needs to be ordered via the GP in order to have it covered.

catiecatp · April 2016

hugs and love @SnobunnieMel

cjs260 · April 2016

@BornReady best of luck!

@SnobunnieMel I hope you get to feeling better soon - I know your struggle.

@catiecatp my first four cycles had a shorter LP. I started taking a vitamin B complex for energy/ttc last cycle and my LP ended up being 12 days. Coincidence? Perhaps, but something you might want to run by your GP/naturopath. Good luck!

I'm currently at CD21 and am officially tired of doing it. I've had 6 days of fertile cm, a +OPK on Sunday, but no temp rise at all yet. Fingers crossed for tomorrow. I DID start eating healthy again and working out everyday, so that very well may push my O back, considering I've been a lazy glutton since the loss (emotional eater over here). It's been around CD19 the past three cycles. We'll see...

catiecatp · April 2016

@cjs260 - I bumped up the naturopath appointment for this reason - I feel like she'll take it more seriously at this stage than the GP - and she'll have ideas that may help but certainly won't hurt. But I figure I need to start sooner than later - so Friday instead of a week from tomorrow. I'm trying to be patient while TTC (and struggling) but I want my cycle to at least make me feel like we have a freakin' chance... KWIM?

FX for a temperature spike for you tomorrow.

BornReady · April 2016

@SnobunnieMel SO sorry, this process is so demoralizing.

@catiecatp Glad you got the naturopath appt. bumped up. Hopefully she has some ideas for you.

@cjs260 Good luck on that temp rise soon! Sometimes those marathons waiting for it get crazy

cjs260 · April 2016

@catiecatp I know EXACTLY what you mean. I've been trying to hold out scheduling my annual exam until August (when I normally do it), but if I don't have any luck this cycle, I don't know if I can keep the strength. How do you like the naturopath so far? Definitely let us know how it goes!

ETA:
@BornReady I know, right?! I'm already an impatient person and this is just driving me bonkers.

catiecatp · April 2016

@cjs260 - I adore my naturopath. I've been seeing her for 3+ years I think and she's fixed things that traditional medicine was either saying I'd either have to have invasive tests for or I'd have to live with. I recommend her to everyone I talk to who has anything remotely wrong with them. She's scientific in her practice (I think the BSc is a big influence). That's the one thing I don't like about the naturopathic field - there is no regulatory body and so you have such a wide range of practitioners.

MWoodside · April 2016

CD12 here. Cycle 4 actively ttcal. I'm feeling ambivalent this month. DH is on my nerves, but we know we still want another baby. TTC is so triggering for me at this point. With the exception of my first pregnancy it has only ever taken 3 months max for my other 3 pregnancies. So this is triggering feelings from my IF days TTC#1, which took 2y3mo. So every month from O to cd1 I'm a mental basketcase.

nwshay · April 2016

Great job @BornReady , Sometimes you need to do that. Not enough people are their own advocates.

I'm sorry @SnobunnieMel - that's super frustrating. But you're not defective. If you are, we all are!

@cjs260 FX for O!

I am on CD 9 and the days to my FW are just DRAGGING on. This is my first cycle with the thumbs up to TTC again so I'm just super anxious. And I'm getting sick! I don't want to make my hub HIO when I sound and look terrible! Hoping this will pass soon!

I was thinking about it today and this is our 8th month TTC. Within those months we had our honeymoon, a CP, the holidays, an exciting BFP, a MC, then I was benched. I did not think TTC would be so draining and would drag on. And life around all of this just has to keep going. Work is still as busy, I still have to go to family and holiday functions. I sometimes just wish I could curl up for a few weeks and just not deal with the daily "stuff"

Ok rant over.

I hope everyone's cycle gets better!

Aera11 · April 2016

No kidding @BornReady! I've learned so much about our health coverage. It kind of makes my head spin but I'm getting more familiar with it.

I'm CD 20 & WTO. I had a peak reading this morning (we BD last night) and probably again tonight & maybe tomorrow. My clear blue digital gave me the peak but first response only has a faint second line... I'll wait to see if my temp spikes. I've had light ovary twinges but I'm trying not to get my hopes up. I usually need Clomid to O and this is our first cycle ttc post loss. The timing of my RE appointment left me able to try this cycle, just won't be medicated until next. Sigh sigh sigh...

silentP · April 2016

I'm so sorry @SnobunnieMel

So unfair.

good for you for advocating for yourself @bornready this process has certainly taught me a lot!

i think we are cycle buddies @mwoodside CD13 today, also 4th active cycle. I hate how emotionally taxing TTCAL can be. And it's hard to want to force it when you're just not feeling it with your partner.

Fingers crossed for you @sdswenson and @aera11!

I am not temping but according to opks, I think we missed the window last night. We were just both exhausted, I couldn't bring myself to insist on BDing. Oh well. We got a few times in earlier this week, so we will see and perhaps will go for it tonight. If no BFP this month, we are gonna need to crack down. I can't believe it's been almost two years since this process began! Sigh.

BornReady · April 2016

@silentP Sorry about the upcoming 2 year milestone. It's so draining isn't it? I hear you on the fatigue to "insist" on BD. Sometimes I know it should be done, but I just don't feel like having to force the issue, you know?

catiecatp · April 2016

So I just got back from my GP - lovely woman and friend, but wow do we go on side tangents. Luckily I was scheduled before her lunch - we talked about all sorts of things in addition to what I went in for.

She was open to doing some testing - once I made it clear I wasn't asking for a referral to fertility specialist. I'm not in need of that yet, and most won't take a referral before 1 year unless you're above 35 or you have RPL. So I've got a requisition to test estrogen, FSH, LH and progesterone and an instruction to get blood drawn in my luteal phase since I seem to be ovulating normally (based on BBT) and the LP is short. I feel like y'all said it should be 7DPO so that is what I'll aim for - though I'll confirm with the naturopath too. I'm so glad she's willing to test - though having a requisition for a separate FSH in the first part of my cycle would be nice I'm not pushing it. Maybe I'll ask for it the next time I see her - which may be in 2-3 weeks for a separate issue...

She wasn't sure of what B vitamin I would be wanting to take but agreed it wouldn't hurt anything - if I didn't have a naturopath she'd recommend a B complex but I figure the naturopath will have more specific recommendations. And she didn't know anything about acupuncture helping - but I'll wait on that because I max out my extended medical as it is (chiropractic, naturopath, and now deep tissue massage).

SnobunnieMel · April 2016

@catiecatp so glad you had a positive visit and she is willing to listen to your requests. that must make you feel like you finally get some control over a situation with so many questions. Happy it went well

cjs260 · April 2016

@catiecatp So glad you had such a great visit! FX that there is nothing to worry about, or at least an easy fix!

SnobunnieMel · April 2016

Finally heard back from my doc after repeat labs Monday. We are officially benched for this cycle after blood work confirmed "non viable pregnancy" from the CP last weekend. Part of me if relieved because I can't take the burden of the stress of it happening 3 cycles in a row but now we are just that much farther away again. hoping I can use this cycle to get my head right because I'm in a dark place right now

BornReady · April 2016

I'm glad you finally got those lab results back @SnobunnieMel. Hopefully this benched cycle will give you some time to focus on the healing that comes with this horrible-ness. Did your doctor have any feedback for you after the results other than to take some time before trying again?

cjs260 · April 2016

@SnobunnieMel I'm so sorry for all you're going through. Hopefully everything will be up from here. Hugs your way.

Spartanrd4 · April 2016

I'm so sorry @snobunnieMel

Being benched sucks but it was good for me to take a mental break from TTC and focus on myself and my overall well being. Take care of yourself, big internet hugs!

MWoodside · April 2016

@SnobunnieMel, I'm sorry.

As for me, it's my first month using OPKs. I get middelschmerz and clear signs of O so I've always pretty much known. It's nice to have the additional confirmation though. Pretty sure O is today for me. Fingers crossed this month will be the one.

BornReady · April 2016

Hope everyone is getting through the long WTO as quickly as possible. I was wondering what everyones opinions are about looking up your potential due date at the start of each new cycle? I used to do it as a ritual each CD1, something to get "excited" about when I was dealing with disappointment of another failed cycle. I've not done it yet this month because I know it's a 2017 date and that just makes me a little bummed out.

mylittleversailles · April 2016

@BornReady I wish I didn't know, but FF tells you once you get crosshairs. I think I'm taking this cycle particularly hard because it was Jan. 3rd and that could have been a new year's baby.

catiecatp · April 2016

@bornready - I usually only look it up once I know the ovulation date.
Lots of hugs @reneeannemm - I felt the same about the due date in November - there are a lot of family birthdays in November and I'd have loved that.

On the topic of ovulation - holy crap I had more EWCM yesterday than I think I've had all my cycles TTC/TTCAL combined! It would be a much earlier ovulation than I've had since going off of BC but that might be my body normalizing. We BD last night - and had fun - but we wouldn't have if not for the EWCM because we were both tired. No temperature shift but I know the fertile window goes beyond the day of ovulation, and that EWCM may be the ticket regardless. I normally ovulate CD18 (with once on CD16) - today is CD14 - so unless I have a similar amount of EWCM we're skipping today because I don't know if I can handle BD every day for so long.

BornReady · April 2016

That's great @catiecatp, it's always nice when it feels like the body is normalizing and getting on track. And always a good thing when baby making sex can be a good time!

Huge to you @reneeannemm, I have some potential due dates that are harder than others. I too would have loved a November baby, as it's when I was born and I was hoping to have a baby before that particular birthday. Such is life I guess...

cooaladolly · April 2016

@reneeannemm some potential dates are so much harder than others. Sorry it wasn't this cycle

@catiecatp I just had to jump in cause you made me laugh thinking of DF and I this last fertile window. We were excited about doing SMEP, but we ran out of gas after 4 days. I missed that one day temping and I'm pretty sure it was actually my O. We of course did one day after for good measure but both of us were like 'doh'! We'll still do SMEP next cycle but I think we'll start on -3 instead of -4 lol.

@BornReady I usually don't look up the potential date, but I did for next month just out of curiosity since we're approaching my birthday as an EDD. For me if May doesn't work out but June does, it's very possible my rainbow could share my birthday.

MooFish2364 · April 2016

I try to avoid looking up or thinking about due dates. I just end up getting my hopes up and don't want to set myself up for greater disappointment.

In other news, I think I'm finally ovulating today. I've ovulated later than normal after my loss and DH and I have been DBibg EOD and sometimes ED since CD 5 (now CD 15). I don't know if I've got much more left in me, lol.

catiecatp · April 2016

@cooaladolll - we haven't gone the SMEP route yet - I think it wouldn't sit right with DH just yet - maybe if we're a few more months along I may suggest it.

Given how regular I tend to be I think we'll start ED Thursday through Sunday and then back to EOD if I haven't ovulated yet.

roxgibbons · April 2016

@BornReady I check the due dates purely out of curiosity. I think someone had mentioned it on this thread, but when I saw my potential due dates would all be 2017, it really hit me hard. I haven't been on this journey long (a little over a year) but a lot has happened in this time.

I'm curious to see if I O when I think I will O this cycle. I had a hysteroscopy and came off BCPs on April 12 so I wouldn't be surprised if this cycle was a little off. Hopefully not

MWoodside · April 2016

@Bornready, I have an automatic calendar in my head that knows what week and month I'd be due. I don't ever check the actual day until I get a BFP.

mylittleversailles · April 2016

My luteal phase decided to stick around for an extra day - miserable day with miserable cramps, but today is CD 1 and I'm officially waiting to ovulate and feeling great about that, despite even stronger cramps. What day will it be? Who knows?! It was CD 18 and then CD 10, so I guess I'll start with OPKs on CD 7 this time around; good thing I have 30 in the bathroom. I'm not ordering pregnancy tests this round.

edit: missing a word or two

MooFish2364 · April 2016

@reneeannemm sorry for CD1 and sorry about the cramps. As if it wasn't bad enough, the cramps have to make it even worse. I get really bad cramps too. Have your ov dates been off since your loss or are they always a bit different? I noticed that I O'd way later than normal last cycle and I though that I was O'ing yesterday but my temps didn't really just up like they usually do. I'm hoping I did O yesterday because I'm getting tired from all of the BDing.

mylittleversailles · April 2016

@MooFish2364 This is all new to me. I had a very regular 28 day cycle my entire life. I only charted two cycles before my miscarriage, but I ovulated both times on CD 15. I started taking maca at the beginning of last cycle, which I suspect is the reason for such early ovulation and possibly the reason for a 15 day luteal phase. We almost missed the fertile window! I'm tired of all the BDing we haven't had to do yet, so I definitely understand. My temps do a slow rise, so I'm usually in your position where I'm just not sure until a few days later. FX for you.

I just found out a week or so during my pelvic exam that I have a retroverted uterus, which is probably the reason my periods have always been so, so painful (and why tampons are an absolute no-no for me). I feel pretty good about that, better than not knowing and worrying there's something else going on.

Spartanrd4 · April 2016

@reneeannemm I have a retroverted uterus too, which I never knew about until I had my ultrasound when I found out about my mmc (which had to be transvaginal too which might have been also because of the retroversion). I have never had trouble with tampons or painful periods, but I always had trouble checking my cervix- I could never tell if it was open or closed and now I know why...that its pointing away from me so I can't reach the opening. I also heard that it might be hard to hear the heartbeat until later in pregnancy with the doppler because the uterus is farther away from your abdomen which might be scary for me if I ever get to that point! We learn new things about our bodies every day I guess!

BornReady · April 2016

I also have a tipped uterus, but mine tips forward instead of back. This was only discovered when I did my testing workup a few years ago when the ultrasound tech told me. I believe many people are tipped one way or the other and it's not generally a big deal unless it's extreme.

I just had my monitoring ultrasound. I have 2, 20mm follicles on my left ovary, so I'm guessing I'll trigger tonight and IUI on Saturday. I still have to wait for the nurse to call and give the final word though.

mylittleversailles · April 2016

@Spartanrd4 Yeah! I can't check my cervix, either. I thought I was just hopeless when it came to biological stuff. I think pain depends on where it's tilted towards. No one told me about it during any of my THREE internal ultrasounds in my follow up appointments and I have no idea why they didn't think to mention it. I'm having some nightmarish thoughts about the original ultrasound and hoping she didn't make a terrible, horrible mistake now that I really think about all of this.

MooFish2364 · April 2016

@Spartanrd4 I I have also heard that. For you ladies with titled uteruses (uterusi?) I would definitely wait longer to hear a heartbeat before giving up on a pregnancy. Sometimes it's hard for them to hear heartbeats so early even on women who do not have titled uteruses.

@BornReady I hope that all works out for you. I don't know much about it but those sound like nice follies!

@reneeannemm please don't worry about it. You will only stress yourself out. You and your doctor made the best decision you could and you don't want to make yourself sick with worry over what ifs. I know it's hard, believe me. I do that myself all the time. *hugs*

mylittleversailles · April 2016

@MooFish2364 Thank you, I'm already past the terror. It was just a bad thought.

@BornReady FX!!!

My friend who was just a few weeks ahead of me is in the hospital with contractions and a short cervix at 26 weeks, so I will focus on the present and worry about someone else instead. Honestly, no one told me pregnancy was this hard and that makes me angry.

BornReady · April 2016

Sorry to hear about your friend, @reneeannemm. Pre-term labor is so scary, especially at that early. I concur with the "nobody told me" sentiment. I feel like nobody talks about how difficult conceiving and sustaining a pregnancy really is and it gives many of us this false sense of how "easy" it is going to be. I wish I had planned my TTC- life better and think about this often.

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