@kimber308 it is a faster flow. I was finding she was getting really bad gas and I thought maybe with level one she was sucking too hard and getting too much air so I change her to level two and she hasn't had any gas since. Could be coincidence. But I do find that she is telling me when she's full now as opposed to with level one she wasn't. It's worth a try even for a day but I would just let you try it or not the daycare
@cali1710 thank you so much! I'll pick some up today and have daycare give it a try tomorrow. I'm willing to try anything, but cereal or foods. She's just not ready... but I also know that she doesn't need more milk. I appreciate it!
Here is info from the American Academy of Pediatrics (both sites are AAP). While introducing foods is at a parents discretion, you still need to know if you baby is physically up to the task of eating solid foods. It's also not recommended to give them more than breastmilk or formula unless they are 6 months or older.
Our pediatrician gave us the go ahead after four months with our last baby and she took to solids immediately. This baby just turned four months and we tried a little and he is just not ready. Babies are different, just try after your pediatrician says ok and then see if your baby is ready, they might not necessarily be ready.
Also, we used baby brezza last time and loved it! I would not recommend it if you like to make big batches all at once, but for your everyday meal making it was great. I like the cook/blend option as you just throw the food in there and hit one button and it cooks and blends while you are doing other stuff, super easy. It also comes with cookbook and containers that you can thaw food in the machine as well.
Type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease and has nothing to do with what anyone eats. It's the immune system attacking beta cells of the pancreas. This is untrue. If it was true, more people would have type 1 diabetes. Type 1 makes up 5% to 10% of all diabetics. It's just untrue. I'm a type 1 diabetic and I became type 1 at age 22. Diabetes is not as cut and dry as people like to think it is, especially Type 1.
Eek, thanks for all the input. Today's the first day I've been able to come back since I posted. Ds is on cereal because the child wants to eat every 1.5-2hrs. So my pediatrician recommended cereal. I don't give exactly what they recommended I give a lot less and every other bottle. Hes 4monthd today, and doesnt go back to the doctor for another two weeks, I absolutely refuse to do anything without consulting a doctor. I'm just wanting him to stay fuller longer. I wasn't intending to start a debate, just wanted input on making baby food. Thanks
Eek, thanks for all the input. Today's the first day I've been able to come back since I posted. Ds is on cereal because the child wants to eat every 1.5-2hrs. So my pediatrician recommended cereal. I don't give exactly what they recommended I give a lot less and every other bottle. Hes 4monthd today, and doesnt go back to the doctor for another two weeks, I absolutely refuse to do anything without consulting a doctor. I'm just wanting him to stay fuller longer. I wasn't intending to start a debate, just wanted input on making baby food. Thanks
As long as his doctor is recommending it, then go for it! I say that because that doctor physically examines him and knows his history. You are doing exactly what you should be doing!
My daycare just told my husband this morning that my daughter is sucking down her 5oz breastmilk bottles and needs more. They said she either needs more oz at once or preferably cereal in her milk. We told them absolutely no way.
How do we keep her satisfied at daycare?
She gets 3 5oz bottles in a 6.5 hour time frame. At home she gets the breast and has no issues whatsoever, but I'm having a hard time believing she's sucking more then 5 oz from me at one sitting. That seems like a lot...
Confused...
What type of bottles do you use? I use Dr. Brown and if you don't take out all the pieces and cap them before warming them like they do at daycare a lot of milk can evaporate out. This happened at our daycare but the lady was noticed it and brought it up so I brought in a cap. Maybe a similar thing could be happening at yours and LO is actually not getting the full 5 per serving. And by cap I mean a screw on top not the one that just cover the nipple.
@kimber308In my experience, people automatically assume a baby is hungry whenever he/she cries. Every time we take LO out and he fusses we are immediately asked if he's hungry even if he just ate. It gets old having to consistently tell everyone LO isn't hungry all the time. I know they mean well but babies fuss for a multitude of reasons, not just hunger. Maybe ask your LOs daycare to offer a pacifier first before giving more milk. 15oz in 6.5hrs sounds like A LOT to me.
How many oz does your LO take during the weekend? A good rule of thumb is 2.2oz per pound of body weight throughout a 24hr period.
@kimber308In my experience, people automatically assume a baby is hungry whenever he/she cries. Every time we take LO out and he fusses we are immediately asked if he's hungry even if he just ate. It gets old having to consistently tell everyone LO isn't hungry all the time. I know they mean well but babies fuss for a multitude of reasons, not just hunger. Maybe ask your LOs daycare to offer a pacifier first before giving more milk. 15oz in 6.5hrs sounds like A LOT to me.
How many oz does your LO take during the weekend? A good rule of thumb is 2.2oz per pound of body weight throughout a 24hr period.
It gets annoying when everyone assumes a crying baby needs food. No people I'm not starving my child. Shes tired and fighting naps.
My LO eats 6oz every 3-3.5 hours. Sometimes 4. So I wouldnt say 15 oz is 6.5 hours is a crazy amount but if its not what he usually eats then yes its a lot for him.
@kimber308 Is LO spitting up? That's could be a sign of over feeding. Perhaps you could ask daycare to look into paced feeding to ensure they aren't over feeding.
They also know type 1 diabetes can result when something in the environment, like a virus, tells your immune system to go after your pancreas. Most people with type 1 diabetes have signs of this attack, called autoantibodies. They’re present in almost everyone who has the condition when their blood sugar is high" - WebMD.
@CarlyHammond It does not sound like your pediatrician is up to date on the latest pediatric recommendations. Babies eating often is not a reason to introduce solids. My baby also eats every two hours...I don't see the issue. In some cultures babies eat many times in an hour. It's perfectly normal for babies to eat that often. My pediatrician told me to give my baby water...I found a new pediatrician. Doctors who don't keep up with scientific advances are not giving the best possible care. They are fallible like all people and just because one dr said something doesn't make it right. I would follow the AAP (which is many doctors) who agree infants should not have food until 6 months. I am not trying to make you feel bad because I know you are following the advice of your doctor. I would just encourage you to do your own research and perhaps seek a second opinion. Let me also add that rice cereal contains high levels of arsenic. https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/04/25/475599295/babies-who-eat-rice-cereal-have-higher-arsenic-levels-study-finds?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20160425
@claireloSC has great points. Every baby eats differently and has different needs.
@Apthor02 Yes it is absolutely nuts to be giving a 14 week old cereal let alone solids in any amount. Your baby is not ready. Please do some research and talk to your doctor. if your doc tells you it's okay find a new one
The article says that introducing foods early increases chances of issues with allergies, respiratory infections, and infections - WHICH ARE ALL IMMUNE DISORDERS. Just like type I diabetes.
Type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease and has nothing to do with what anyone eats. It's the immune system attacking beta cells of the pancreas. This is untrue. If it was true, more people would have type 1 diabetes. Type 1 makes up 5% to 10% of all diabetics. It's just untrue. I'm a type 1 diabetic and I became type 1 at age 22. Diabetes is not as cut and dry as people like to think it is, especially Type 1.
I'm sorry, but no. You are correct that Type 1 is autoimmune, but doctors aren't 100% sure what exactly causes it. Heredity, viruses, and environment are all believed to play a roll:
From the American Diabetes Association:
Because most people who are at risk do not get diabetes, researchers want to find out what the environmental triggers are.
One trigger might be related to cold weather. Type 1 diabetes develops more often in winter than summer and is more common in places with cold climates.
Another trigger might be viruses. Perhaps a virus that has only mild effects on most people triggers type 1 diabetes in others.
Early diet may also play a role. Type 1 diabetes is less common in people who were breastfed and in those who first ate solid foods at later ages.
@claireloSC has great points. Every baby eats differently and has different needs.
@Apthor02 Yes it is absolutely nuts to be giving a 14 week old cereal let alone solids in any amount. Your baby is not ready. Please do some research and talk to your doctor. if your doc tells you it's okay find a new one
The article says that introducing foods early increases chances of issues with allergies, respiratory infections, and infections - WHICH ARE ALL IMMUNE DISORDERS. Just like type I diabetes.
i will say goodbye now because I feel the ban hammer coming
For reals!
Doctors are not all up to date on what is right, as a parent it is also your responsibility to be informed and do your research. There is no excuse for giving a 14 week old baby food. I have a hard time believe that you "know" your baby wants food.
A a baby in Canada just died because his parents refused to take him to the doctor for meningitis because they "knew" that the treatments they were giving him was better. Not suggesting that your child would die from what you are doing, but you are responsible for protecting your baby and caring for them as best as possible. By introducing foods too early, you are willingly going against all scientific research that proves it is harmful to them because you think you "know" your baby better.
Oh and to add: just because a baby is feeding often does not mean that they need rice cereal or to supplement if you are breastfeeding.
A baby that breastfeeds will nurse more frequently to increase your supply when needed. And that's just what a baby does: eats!! Some days DS feeds every couple of hours too but that's the part about being a mom - feeding your baby! Formula or breastmilk is really all they need, no matter how much they get!
When people use the excuse "I know my baby!" I feel like my eyes may roll out of my head.
No one instinctively knows their baby is ready for foods. The best we as mother can do is read and research and try to use our best judgement. Many many many sources recommend holding off on solids including rice. It's ok to say, "oh, I didn't know. I'm going to educate myself" instead of the defensive "I KNOW MY BABY!" Obviously you didn't know the most up to date recommendations. That's ok! This parenting thing has a steep learning curve.
I seriously hate the justification of "well they did it before and we all survived". Yes we survived but some babies did not and that why the rules and safety precautions have been changed. You could put your baby in the front seat in a basket because your grandma did that but we all know that's a bad idea. Years of research has gone into changing the way we do things in regards to baby care. You as a parent are responsible for doing what's best and that includes being up to date on research and safety policies.
I think we're all blowing this out of proportion. Why not just call our LOs while they're at daycare and simply ASK them if they're ready for solid food?
I'm with them ^^^ ignorance is not an excuse people! It doesn't get you out of a ticket and it isn't an excuse for poor parenting choices. You want to have a baby and raise them, read, research, know what's best. Science evolves for a reason. You may not need a license to have kids, but you should at least be responsible enough to educate yourself on the most up-to-date practices.
I'm with them ^^^ ignorance is not an excuse people! It doesn't get you out of a ticket and it isn't an excuse for poor parenting choices. You want to have a baby and raise them, read, research, know what's best. Science evolves for a reason. You may not need a license to have kids, but you should at least be responsible enough to educate yourself on the most up-to-date practices.
I'm with them ^^^ ignorance is not an excuse people! It doesn't get you out of a ticket and it isn't an excuse for poor parenting choices. You want to have a baby and raise them, read, research, know what's best. Science evolves for a reason. You may not need a license to have kids, but you should at least be responsible enough to educate yourself on the most up-to-date practices.
Agreed. Doctors don't always stay current with their reading and such. Just like every profession, there are good ones and bad ones. A doctor who isn't staying up to date with SCIENTIFIC research is doing a disservice to their patients. As a parent it is your responsibility to be your child's advocate and if someone you are paying to take care of your child's health is giving you bad advice (advice that an entire group of non-medical professionals can tell you is wrong/dangerous), then you need to find someone else. Not all doctors are created equal. If my ped told me to give Chloe solids right now, I would at the VERY least get a second opinion.
STM or moms who have already began, what foods (other then rice cereal) did you start with?
The D15' FB group that I am part of, many women have begun giving avocado and sweet potatoes. Those are the two most common ones I've seen. Majority have skipped on the rice cereal, per the lack of benefits that have been mentioned by some of the posters here about cereal.
Honestly at 4 months I FINALLY don't feel like I'm doing something impossible every time I breastfeed. The thought of starting solids sounds so exhausting to me right now lol
STM or moms who have already began, what foods (other then rice cereal) did you start with?
Please don't take the advice of anyone who is giving a 3 month old solids. They are doing so out of ignorance, stupidity, or for their own convenience.
Talk to your pedi for a time table and what to start with.
Re: Baby food.
https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/baby/feeding-nutrition/Pages/Switching-To-Solid-Foods.aspx
https://www.aap.org/en-us/advocacy-and-policy/aap-health-initiatives/HALF-Implementation-Guide/Age-Specific-Content/Pages/Infant-Food-and-Feeding.aspx
Also, we used baby brezza last time and loved it! I would not recommend it if you like to make big batches all at once, but for your everyday meal making it was great. I like the cook/blend option as you just throw the food in there and hit one button and it cooks and blends while you are doing other stuff, super easy. It also comes with cookbook and containers that you can thaw food in the machine as well.
Ds is on cereal because the child wants to eat every 1.5-2hrs. So my pediatrician recommended cereal. I don't give exactly what they recommended I give a lot less and every other bottle.
Hes 4monthd today, and doesnt go back to the doctor for another two weeks, I absolutely refuse to do anything without consulting a doctor. I'm just wanting him to stay fuller longer.
I wasn't intending to start a debate, just wanted input on making baby food.
Thanks
As long as his doctor is recommending it, then go for it! I say that because that doctor physically examines him and knows his history. You are doing exactly what you should be doing!
Or maybe adding something to his diet to keep him full...
My poor little chunker
How many oz does your LO take during the weekend? A good rule of thumb is 2.2oz per pound of body weight throughout a 24hr period.
My LO eats 6oz every 3-3.5 hours. Sometimes 4. So I wouldnt say 15 oz is 6.5 hours is a crazy amount but if its not what he usually eats then yes its a lot for him.
@PedsisHardcore That's not necessarily true. You can read her sources here, which are legitimate peer-reviewed studies. https://kellymom.com/nutrition/starting-solids/solids-diabetes/
"Doctors don't know all the things that lead to type 1 diabetes. But they do know your genes play a role.
They also know type 1 diabetes can result when something in the environment, like a virus, tells your immune system to go after your pancreas. Most people with type 1 diabetes have signs of this attack, called autoantibodies. They’re present in almost everyone who has the condition when their blood sugar is high" - WebMD.
@CarlyHammond It does not sound like your pediatrician is up to date on the latest pediatric recommendations. Babies eating often is not a reason to introduce solids. My baby also eats every two hours...I don't see the issue. In some cultures babies eat many times in an hour. It's perfectly normal for babies to eat that often. My pediatrician told me to give my baby water...I found a new pediatrician. Doctors who don't keep up with scientific advances are not giving the best possible care. They are fallible like all people and just because one dr said something doesn't make it right. I would follow the AAP (which is many doctors) who agree infants should not have food until 6 months. I am not trying to make you feel bad because I know you are following the advice of your doctor. I would just encourage you to do your own research and perhaps seek a second opinion. Let me also add that rice cereal contains high levels of arsenic. https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/04/25/475599295/babies-who-eat-rice-cereal-have-higher-arsenic-levels-study-finds?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20160425
Additionally, adding rice cereal to the bottle does not help a baby sleep longer. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2672785/
@Apthor02 Yes it is absolutely nuts to be giving a 14 week old cereal let alone solids in any amount. Your baby is not ready. Please do some research and talk to your doctor. if your doc tells you it's okay find a new one
@PedsIsHardcore You are just a contradictory loon.
i will say goodbye now because I feel the ban hammer coming
Married: 7.23.11
DD:10.17.12
EDD #2!:1.17.16
Married: 7.23.11
DD:10.17.12
EDD #2!:1.17.16
From the American Diabetes Association:
Because most people who are at risk do not get diabetes, researchers want to find out what the environmental triggers are.
One trigger might be related to cold weather. Type 1 diabetes develops more often in winter than summer and is more common in places with cold climates.
Another trigger might be viruses. Perhaps a virus that has only mild effects on most people triggers type 1 diabetes in others.
Early diet may also play a role. Type 1 diabetes is less common in people who were breastfed and in those who first ate solid foods at later ages.
- See more at: https://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/genetics-of-diabetes.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/#sthash.0pbd4Mld.dpufDoctors are not all up to date on what is right, as a parent it is also your responsibility to be informed and do your research. There is no excuse for giving a 14 week old baby food. I have a hard time believe that you "know" your baby wants food.
A a baby in Canada just died because his parents refused to take him to the doctor for meningitis because they "knew" that the treatments they were giving him was better. Not suggesting that your child would die from what you are doing, but you are responsible for protecting your baby and caring for them as best as possible. By introducing foods too early, you are willingly going against all scientific research that proves it is harmful to them because you think you "know" your baby better.
A baby that breastfeeds will nurse more frequently to increase your supply when needed. And that's just what a baby does: eats!! Some days DS feeds every couple of hours too but that's the part about being a mom - feeding your baby! Formula or breastmilk is really all they need, no matter how much they get!
No one instinctively knows their baby is ready for foods. The best we as mother can do is read and research and try to use our best judgement. Many many many sources recommend holding off on solids including rice. It's ok to say, "oh, I didn't know. I'm going to educate myself" instead of the defensive "I KNOW MY BABY!" Obviously you didn't know the most up to date recommendations. That's ok! This parenting thing has a steep learning curve.
Also shitforbrains is my new favorite word.
You could put your baby in the front seat in a basket because your grandma did that but we all know that's a bad idea.
Years of research has gone into changing the way we do things in regards to baby care. You as a parent are responsible for doing what's best and that includes being up to date on research and safety policies.
Married: 7.23.11
DD:10.17.12
EDD #2!:1.17.16
Eta: gif fail....
DD - January 2016
Fuck this, gif fail.
STM or moms who have already began, what foods (other then rice cereal) did you start with?
Talk to your pedi for a time table and what to start with.