So I get it. Even though I am extremely uncomfortable with it my boyfriend watches porn and I know that 95 percent of males do also. I'm about 8 months pregnant and my boyfriend and I barely have sex. I used to get really upset about it but I have Finally gotten used to his excuse which was that it freaked him out that his baby was so close. After telling him there was no issue with sex during pregnancy and arguing about it for months I gave up and realized that he was going to watch porn instead of have sex with me. BUT I just found out he has been going on Web cams, live chatting with women and basically being able to get off by interacting with them. How many of you would be comfortable with this? I most certainly am not and I feel like I have been cheated on. I'm devastated. Thoughts, opinions, advice please!
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Adult movies, I'm fine with. No direct contact there.
Have you confronted him? What did he say?
And honestly, I'm not okay with porn either. Thank God MH doesn't even like it.
Also, check out chumplady.com (I read it quite a bit when I was in a previous relationship). Lots of good information on how to set your boundaries and enforce them.
Porn aside, I think the interaction is very much so cheating. You have gotten some great advice from PPs. Do not let him justify his behavior as "a guy thing". He needs to recognize your feelings on the issue.
I'm sorry you have to go through this.
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Intimacy during pregnancy is difficult for the mom to be for numerous reasons (growing belly, morning sickness, other aches and pains, etc) but can also be difficult for the dad to be. I think some men feel freaked out about ALL of the changes that lie ahead. I'm not making excuses for your SO, but I'm suggesting that you communicate with him about his behavior. IME, communication really is key when it comes to needs, wants, desires when it comes to your relationship between the sheets...and life in general! My H wants sex every day since I've become pregnant, and conversely, I never want it at all! I'm just not turned on, BUT- sex is an important part of our marriage, so compromise is key. Do I think your SO is in the wrong? Absolutely, and it's not ok to behave this way. If I were in your shoes, I would collect my thoughts, and try to approach him when he's calm and hopefully get to the root of the why. Once you discuss with him, I think you can make a decision about how, and if you're moving forward in the relationship.
I am so sorry that you're in this situation and I'm wishing you all the best!
((Btw- just speaking from a very personal standpoint, I think watching porn as a couple can be fun. It's certainly not something that is a regular occurrence in my life, but sometimes it can add some spice.))
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You can have a good relationship with or without porn. You can have a good relationship with or without monogamy, if that's what you're into. You cannot have a good relationship without open communication, honesty, and trust.
I'm sorry you're in this situation. If I were in your shoes, I'd give him a chance to explain himself, and I'd try to explain my own position as calmly as possible (which might not be very!). But you're completely justified in feeling betrayed and disrespected, because you have been. He knows it's wrong; that's why he's being evasive and defensive. The question is, how do you want to handle it?
I certainly would not be ok with MH having an actual sex interaction with another person, even if it is over the computer. I know you're angry, but try talking to him and maybe understanding his reasoning for it. Perhaps, you can then come to a resolution of what you both find acceptable and unacceptable. Remind him that your state is temporary and in no time, you will be your old self! And then you can resume all the sexy time!!
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Good luck!!
I agree with others. I would try to talk to him. To me, he must feel guilty otherwise he wouldn't be getting so defensive. He knows he has done something wrong that he should not be doing.
I would be fine with watching porn, but interaction. Just.. no. Interaction of any kind is cheating in my mind. Emotional cheating is just as bad as physical cheating as far as I am concerned. It is not "natural" it is not a "guy thing". My DH isn't even into porn. If he did watch it though, as long as it wasn't like an all day or every day thing, I'd be fine with it.
I hope that you two are able to calmly talk about it and get things worked out.
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I can't really say what I would do if I were in your shoes at this point, because I don't know if I would be able to handle the stress of talking about it with him. I've been cheated on in past relationships and the denial and aggression I would be subjected to when discussing the issue I just don't think I would be able to handle if I were pregnant. I think I would probably want to be nowhere near him and go stay with a family member until after LO was born if that was an option. In the meantime I would try to focus on other things, work, getting stuff ready for LO, family, etc. Good luck!
And porn is one thing--it's fantasy (which does not always relate to things we really want), and it's passive (stimulating but by what other people are doing on their own time).
Cam girls are a little different but still not cheating, IMO-- they are still there to provide a fantasy for their customers (most of them get paid). the interactive component changes things. It's not cheating, but it's something he should tell you about (if only for budgeting purposes!). The interactive component also indicates that what he's doing with them might be less in the realm of fantasy and more in the realm of desire, which would affect your life in the bedroom.
But he should be honest and open with you about it all! For him to do that, you need to be able to listen with an open mind. The only thing that matters is the relationship you two have, and you have to evaluate: will his watching porn or talking to cam girls affect your relationship? If it would have less of an impact on your relationship than him taking a Saturday morning to go play a round of golf, then let it go. If it's going to make him want you to be more like the cam girls, then nip it in the bud.
The real underlying issue is that you are losing your emotional and sexual connection with him. Whether that is because he is being secretive and dismissive or because he is trying to compliment you and you are rejecting it/him, you need to have an honest conversation.
There are ways to be intimate that you can try, as well--oral, hands, and if you don't hate it, anal. But better than all of those are head-petting, cuddling, and massages. Even if you're feeling yucky, a cuddle will help establish intimacy, and it will also encourage you to talk. And it'll keep him off the internet:)
Unless you want to watch porn together while cuddling and you can help him finish off with a handie.... But that's another option, not so much a cuddle.
Most camgirls don't make a lot.
@Merciel Mostly joking, but I've heard of some really high-end cam folk! And I've been told that the ones who interact more charge more. Also, based on the TV discussion in the Random thread, people seem to budget for Netflix. DH and I do: we've got a line item in our budget for $7.99/month. Most cam girls and porn services charge at least that, right?