Hey guess what, you only spill glucose into urine when your blood levels exceed 300ug/dL. It's not diagnostic, it means your body's in over drive trying to get rid of sugar that your endogenous insulin can't handle. If you're counting on THAT being the way you find a disease- ignorance is bliss.
Yes and and please stop referring to things as false positives. As people have explained to you 1 hour testing is not diagnostic- it's inclusive, it's designed to catch as many possible problem results as it can. The whole point of the 1 hour is to rule people in or out for diagnostic exam aka the three hour.
Theres nothing worse than pretending you're exempt from something because you are misinformed.
Edited because my phone likes to type words twice.
@sayerhart that is total bs that your "area" gets false results no it means they all actually failed the 1 hour. Also they test yor blood not urine for glucose. Just because your baby is measuring fine currently doesn't mean they will continue to be. And yes I will judge someone who refuses a standard test for their and their childs health for rediculous selfish reasons.
Time to get informed and lose that crazy midwife who i hope gets sued royally soon.
Maybe things are different in my region. My midwife said that the amount of false results that come from the testing is so high. It just stresses most moms out for no reason.
Baby is measuring fine, urine is coming back fine. So far so good. Obviously if anything ever was wonky I would do whatever I could for the health of my baby. My Midwife would insist on it if it ran in the family, baby measuring big, whatever else presents a red flag.
Who knows, maybe I'll change my mind. But for now, thanks for not judging me and being respectful!
I doubt things are different in your "region". Yesterday my OB said that 20% of women fail the one hour but a good majority of those pass the three hour. That isn't a false positive.
I didnt have any indications or symptoms of GD with DD, but failed the one and three hour tests. DD always measured small, urine fine, etc.
There's a fucking reason why it's a mandatory across the board test done during pregnancy.
Will you be passing up the Tdap vaccine during your pregnancy as well?
Not taking the GD test because of lack of time is officially the most ridiculous thing I've heard all day. Scratch that, all week
edited to add my cousin had an 11 pound baby and the description of what happened to her nether regions is enough to make me weep
DH's family seems to have a history of gigantic babies (Not GD related). He was 10.5lb/24", his younger brother was even bigger weight-wise. And in case that seems like a fluke, his dad and both his uncles were all 11-13lb babies. So, I'm a little freaked out and DH keeps joking that his baby is going to be huge. The midwives just keep saying I'm measuring "on schedule", and I think the whole fundal measurement system is iffy anyway, kind of like the "due date" we're given despite the fact that it could be as much as 14 days off and since I'm a FTM who really knows what normal is for my body anyway. Mini-rant over, I just can't stand how the whole OB system pretends pregnancy is some sort of exact science.
Not an UO, but I wanted to slap the midwife I had yesterday that told me that they try not to encourage people to come up with "birth plans" because things never go as planned. She was pushy and judgmental and I am soooo fucking glad I am switching to Kaiser at the end of the month and she will not be delivering my baby. Love the other ladies in the practice but she needs a punch in the twat.
my whole 1st pregnancy my OB said I was measuring small, DH was concerned I wasn't eating enough. Then at my (post EDD) biophysical profile, the MFM doctor did an ultrasound and was like "this baby's going to be big!". I was hysterically laughing. DD ended up being 7lbs 11 oz so neither doctor was right. I don't put any stock in how big/small doctors think the baby will be.
@sayerhart Allow me to be judgmental and completely disrespectful then... you ARE 100% with out a doubt putting yourself and your babies health in harms way by not having this test done. This is not an opinion, it is a fact backed up by hundreds of studies. Your blasé attitude towards things is sincerely making me doubt your protective capacity to be totally honest, that may be harsh, but sorry not sorry. As far as your ridiculously idiotic midwife saying it causes mom's undue stress is batshit crazy.... would you rather be "stressed" for 24-48 hours waiting for your results or be stressed out til July about whether you've actually had untreated GD for the past 3-4 months and now have to worry for the rest of your kids life about their health and potential lasting effects. Me personally, I'd feel like a pretty big piece of shit if my kid ended up having diabetes because I didn't feel like spending 2 hours to ensure his health and well being. Listen to the overwhelming amount of ladies here telling you and urging you to have this test done. Seriously, I'm begging you.
Maybe things are different in my region. My midwife said that the amount of false results that come from the testing is so high. It just stresses most moms out for no reason.
Baby is measuring fine, urine is coming back fine. So far so good. Obviously if anything ever was wonky I would do whatever I could for the health of my baby. My Midwife would insist on it if it ran in the family, baby measuring big, whatever else presents a red flag.
Who knows, maybe I'll change my mind. But for now, thanks for not judging me and being respectful!
GD does more than just size. Therr is not always a family history, like regular DM. Also it goes against ACOG standards. Your CNM could lose her license. And I am judging you. You are taking taking care of your child and your CNM is crossing the line in to negligence. Which is illegal.
I'm with @erin7264 I don't understand NOT having a "plan" simply because things may go wrong. I don't go to a restaurant and hand the menu back to the waiter saying "pick whatever" because they "might" get my order wrong, I don't not plan out the details of my wedding because something unexpected may occur, I wouldn't just roll up to a car dealership and say hey sell me anything ya got that drives, I'd do a ton of research and figure out what I want even if I don't wind up with everything from my list. I don't get why that's different for birth, especially when it comes to OUR bodies. The more we just hand over our bodies to doctors and say "ok, do whatevs!" the more we lose or risk losing our right to make informed decisions regarding our bodies and our babies. For instance, a lot of studies are now showing that giving moms 4 hours to actively labor opposed to three hours is lowering C-section rates with no effect negative effect on mom/baby. How do we know that, because women are speaking up and saying that they want a vaginal birth and that it's incredibly important to them...which is causing doctors to second guess forcing women to have a csection when it's not truly medically necessary. Also, how would we know the amazing benefits of skin to skin contact if it weren't for mothers demanding this be take place as opposed to their newborns being whisked off the second they're out. It's from mother's have a birth plan and doing everything they can to advocate for it.
Obviously shit happens, and it's best to go with the flow... but I think being prepared and researching medical interventions and being vocal about what you'd like to have happen is absolutely vital to improving how mother's are treated while giving birth.
Maybe it's the terminology that gives it a bad rap, maybe birth "wishlist" would be better, but regardless, I think it's so so so so so important for mom's to educated themselves about giving birth and the ramifications of medical interventions.
The Business of Being Born is a really great documentary about this and this article was also very information for me...https://nymag.com/thecut/2016/03/
I'm with @erin7264 I don't understand NOT having a "plan" simply because things may go wrong.
@PinkLady2015 I totally agree on so much of this. I know there are some women who end up devastated because things do not go as planned... So in that sense it's good for a provider to temper expectations. But I get so offended when people assume that because I have plans of how I'd like things to go, that I'm some diva that won't be able to handle things if they don't go exactly as I planned. Give me some credit.
I'm with @erin7264 I don't understand NOT having a "plan" simply because things may go wrong.
@PinkLady2015 I totally agree on so much of this. I know there are some women who end up devastated because things do not go as planned... So in that sense it's good for a provider to temper expectations. But I get so offended when people assume that because I have plans of how I'd like things to go, that I'm some diva that won't be able to handle things if they don't go exactly as I planned. Give me some credit.
To each and their own. I just wanted other posters to be realistic but informed.
My birth plan is 1) Go to hospital 2) get spinal 3) have c/S 4) try BF'ing ASAP 5) Go home with baby.
I'm with @erin7264 I don't understand NOT having a "plan" simply because things may go wrong.
@PinkLady2015 I totally agree on so much of this. I know there are some women who end up devastated because things do not go as planned... So in that sense it's good for a provider to temper expectations. But I get so offended when people assume that because I have plans of how I'd like things to go, that I'm some diva that won't be able to handle things if they don't go exactly as I planned. Give me some credit.
To each and their own. I just wanted other posters to be realistic but informed.
My birth plan is 1) Go to hospital 2) get spinal 3) have c/S 4) try BF'ing ASAP 5) Go home with baby.
Hehe yeah sorry, that wasn't directed at you Pugs. That was more of a random rant inspired by what some other friends/family have said to me in the past.
I'm definitely not saying going into labor and say "do whatevs". Absolutely do your research, have advocates and get support to help you achieve your dream birthing goals. But be realistic and open minded for the just in case scenarios. I have seen ladies struggle with extreme guilt and be absolutely devastated because things didn't go the way they pictured.
It's easy to say it won't happen to "me" but realistically it happens more than you would think especially with PPD and being so emotionally invested in a plan or picture perfect birthing experience.
Also yes you plan a wedding but how many stories have we heard of last minute changes and how stressed and upset the brides were because of them because it wasn't in their plan? Also unfortunately we can only do so much to prepare our bodies and minds for labor. In the grand scheme of things we actually have very little control and what's going to happen, happens.
ETA I'm trying to say, absolutely have a plan, just be emotionally prepared and open minded enough to deviate if needed.
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@pugsandkisses Yes and yes on being realistic and informed!! I totally agree with you there... especially the informed part though!! There was SO MUCH I didn't know before I started thinking about a birth plan... I didn't even know what skin to skin contact was or what the benefits are.
If I put it in writing that I'd like for skin to skin to happen, is it a guarantee? Of course not... does it increase my chances of a nurse saying "oh wait a sec, she wants skin to skin, here ya go, plop"... I'd like to think so. I guess my philosophy is "the answer is no until you ask" So if you want to increase your chances of xyz happening it's probably good to have it written somewhere or talk to your doc about it beforehand.
I definitely understand the thought process behind not wanting to be disappointed or devastated if something doesn't go as planned, I'm pretty much preparing myself for every scenario but even then I think it's helpful to have an idea of what you do want and don't want happening.
I'm going to throw this out there....If GD goes untreated both mother and baby are at risk of issues and I hate to even say death. As someone with GD it's no joke. For the love of God TAKE THE TEST
Well I feel like shit.
While I do appreciate people being concerned, I think it's important to remember that there are actual people behind these screen names and that there are more gentle ways of giving someone more information or getting your point across. For someone to say that I think my child dying isn't a big deal to me just broke my heart. I don't think anyone deserves to have that said to them.
I wish you all the best with your pregnancies and your new adventures.
I will never understand people that say that they don't want to stress about the GD test. What the heck is there to stress about? You drink the drink, you give blood, you go about your business. If that is stressful......what would you consider parenting? Parenting isn't unicorns and glitter. It's stressful.
You know what else is stressful? When they suspect that you may have had GD (even though you passed your 1hr), after your baby is born. Stressful, is watching them come into your room and prick your newborn EVERY HOUR for 24 hours....while he/she screams bloody murder...so they can test baby's blood. Its horrible.
I didn't do much research on skin-to-skin with my first child, but I'm very fortunate that it is the standard practice at my hospital. It was one of the most wonderful hours of my life with my son, and one of the things I would push hard for if it were necessary this time.
@ButterMyBiscuit so what you're saying is that even Dr. Google says that you should take the test? WOW! As someone that works in animal medicine and as much as I personally hate Dr. Google, he's spot on today.
Well I feel like shit.
While I do appreciate people being concerned, I think it's important to remember that there are actual people behind these screen names and that there are more gentle ways of giving someone more information or getting your point across. For someone to say that I think my child dying isn't a big deal to me just broke my heart. I don't think anyone deserves to have that said to them.
I wish you all the best with your pregnancies and your new adventures.
I wish you luck and I hope you change your mind about the GD test.
I was a GD baby. A whole 10 pound, got stuck, mom needed a c section GD baby. It is better to take the test and know, and help prevent any issues that may occur, than to sit it blissful ignorance.
@sayerhart honestly I'm more disappointed in your midwife. I realize that most people have no idea how to go about testing for certain diseases and that's why we rely on our doctors and medical professionals to guide us. Even though I'm a nurse, I learned more about pregnancy and childbirth from my sister than I did from my work experience. I look to my OB for advice and recommendations about best practice and required tests to ensure the health of me and my baby. I'm sorry if what was said was hurtful for you but I urge you to do some research on this or bring it up at your next appointment.
@sayerhart i am the one that said it. You know why, I have had several patients that child did die due to GD not being Dx or mother not following dietary orders. I rather 'break your heart' now than you dealing with that in 3 months. Calling NILMDTS has been the worst calls in my nursing career.
@sayerhart We were very informative at first and gave you a ton of reasons why you should have the test done and then you posted again basically blowing off all the facts that were just provided for you and still refusing to have the test done. It's called tough love and if we have to be harsh to get our point across, in this instance, I don't think anyone was in the wrong. You didn't/don't seem to understand what we're telling you. I hate to say it, but at this point, you should feel like shit.... And then you should get the test done and feel better and then you can either come back here with no GD and rub it in all of our faces, or you can come back with GD and thank us for now being treated... either way, we won't mind.
Well I feel like shit.
While I do appreciate people being concerned, I think it's important to remember that there are actual people behind these screen names and that there are more gentle ways of giving someone more information or getting your point across. For someone to say that I think my child dying isn't a big deal to me just broke my heart. I don't think anyone deserves to have that said to them.
I wish you all the best with your pregnancies and your new adventures.
Yes, and we're been trying to tell you how important this test is, not just for your well-being but your unborn child. If it makes you feel better I'm just as annoyed with your midwife and feel that she needs to have someone give her a wake up call on giving patients wrong information. GD doesn't just affect over-weight people or certain ethnicities, it affects everyone. You could be jogging and eating amazing your whole life and still fail. By ignoring this test and not taking an hour of your time to do it, you're being irresponsible as a parent.
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Frankly, I'm glad you feel judged. I've said it before and I'll say it again: judgement can be a good thing. This is one of those times. You are making what could be a life altering decision based on essentially being lazy. And you're not just making it for yourself- you're dragging a defenseless baby into it.
You're an adult I assume. Learn when to admit you're wrong. Saying you can't be bothered to do a simple test followed by that GIF make you look like a complete turd.
I hope you make the right decision it's a pretty simple one.
Well I feel like shit.
While I do appreciate people being concerned, I think it's important to remember that there are actual people behind these screen names and that there are more gentle ways of giving someone more information or getting your point across. For someone to say that I think my child dying isn't a big deal to me just broke my heart. I don't think anyone deserves to have that said to them.
I wish you all the best with your pregnancies and your new adventures.
I think the fact that everyone is trying to get you to see the importance of the test proves that we do remember there are actual people behind the screen names.
@quartz02 I agree with you. My husband cared more about diamonds and rings than I did. It pissed me off when we got engaged and people assumed *I* was a diva who pushed for a fancy ring, because OF COURSE all women are obsessed with diamonds. Nope. It was him and his nerdy obsession with rocks.
@hmcdade1 My lungs (and my nesting instinct!) hurt just from looking at that room. The dust! Not cool, Mr. HMcDade1. Not cool. I am so sorry you're living with that right now.
Regarding birth plans, I'd like to say that they aren't just about diva moms who want control. They are a useful tool for families who have ALREADY had things go wrong. When a baby or mother has special needs, a birth plan can help hospital staff be aware of the situation.
Our son's birth is NOT going to be normal. Our birth plan addresses his very specific needs, and my family's need for extreme sensitivity. I hope our plan will prevent hospital staff from going on autopilot and accidentally doing things that would be standard for most babies, but wrong in our case.
Finally, I think that anyone who "doesn't have time" for standard prenatal care but DOES have time for bumpin' on the internet needs to reconsider their priorities. Just... Why?! Don't you WANT to be tested, to take good care of your baby? I do!
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@PleaseSendPicklesNow at least that is in our upstairs and we live totally on our first floor. It's behind closed doors so I'm not living in the middle of it per se. But it will be my kids bathroom and the room behind it her nursery so I would like it finished sooner than later !
@HMcDade1 That would bother me too!!! I cannot stand when major projects go beyond their anticipated completion date. My "loves to DIY" husband has all kinds of ideas of things we should do BEFORE the baby comes....like new kitchen counter tops, paint the outside of the house, redo some lighting. He feels like we have ALL sorts of time. All I can see is an unusable kitchen and walking through a number of painting scaffolds with a newborn. Not cool. I'm trying to steer him into the backyard where I couldn't care less what's finished or not, haha!
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Hey guess what, you only spill glucose into urine when your blood levels exceed 300ug/dL. It's not diagnostic, it means your body's in over drive trying to get rid of sugar that your endogenous insulin can't handle. If you're counting on THAT being the way you find a disease- ignorance is bliss.
Yes and and please stop referring to things as false positives. As people have explained to you 1 hour testing is not diagnostic- it's inclusive, it's designed to catch as many possible problem results as it can. The whole point of the 1 hour is to rule people in or out for diagnostic exam aka the three hour.
Theres nothing worse than pretending you're exempt from something because you are misinformed.
Edited because my phone likes to type words twice.
Time to get informed and lose that crazy midwife who i hope gets sued royally soon.
I didnt have any indications or symptoms of GD with DD, but failed the one and three hour tests. DD always measured small, urine fine, etc.
There's a fucking reason why it's a mandatory across the board test done during pregnancy.
Will you be passing up the Tdap vaccine during your pregnancy as well?
my whole 1st pregnancy my OB said I was measuring small, DH was concerned I wasn't eating enough. Then at my (post EDD) biophysical profile, the MFM doctor did an ultrasound and was like "this baby's going to be big!". I was hysterically laughing. DD ended up being 7lbs 11 oz so neither doctor was right. I don't put any stock in how big/small doctors think the baby will be.
@sayerhart Allow me to be judgmental and completely disrespectful then... you ARE 100% with out a doubt putting yourself and your babies health in harms way by not having this test done. This is not an opinion, it is a fact backed up by hundreds of studies. Your blasé attitude towards things is sincerely making me doubt your protective capacity to be totally honest, that may be harsh, but sorry not sorry. As far as your ridiculously idiotic midwife saying it causes mom's undue stress is batshit crazy.... would you rather be "stressed" for 24-48 hours waiting for your results or be stressed out til July about whether you've actually had untreated GD for the past 3-4 months and now have to worry for the rest of your kids life about their health and potential lasting effects. Me personally, I'd feel like a pretty big piece of shit if my kid ended up having diabetes because I didn't feel like spending 2 hours to ensure his health and well being. Listen to the overwhelming amount of ladies here telling you and urging you to have this test done. Seriously, I'm begging you.
And I am judging you. You are taking taking care of your child and your CNM is crossing the line in to negligence. Which is illegal.
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I'm with @erin7264 I don't understand NOT having a "plan" simply because things may go wrong. I don't go to a restaurant and hand the menu back to the waiter saying "pick whatever" because they "might" get my order wrong, I don't not plan out the details of my wedding because something unexpected may occur, I wouldn't just roll up to a car dealership and say hey sell me anything ya got that drives, I'd do a ton of research and figure out what I want even if I don't wind up with everything from my list. I don't get why that's different for birth, especially when it comes to OUR bodies. The more we just hand over our bodies to doctors and say "ok, do whatevs!" the more we lose or risk losing our right to make informed decisions regarding our bodies and our babies. For instance, a lot of studies are now showing that giving moms 4 hours to actively labor opposed to three hours is lowering C-section rates with no effect negative effect on mom/baby. How do we know that, because women are speaking up and saying that they want a vaginal birth and that it's incredibly important to them...which is causing doctors to second guess forcing women to have a csection when it's not truly medically necessary. Also, how would we know the amazing benefits of skin to skin contact if it weren't for mothers demanding this be take place as opposed to their newborns being whisked off the second they're out. It's from mother's have a birth plan and doing everything they can to advocate for it.
Obviously shit happens, and it's best to go with the flow... but I think being prepared and researching medical interventions and being vocal about what you'd like to have happen is absolutely vital to improving how mother's are treated while giving birth.
Maybe it's the terminology that gives it a bad rap, maybe birth "wishlist" would be better, but regardless, I think it's so so so so so important for mom's to educated themselves about giving birth and the ramifications of medical interventions.
The Business of Being Born is a really great documentary about this and this article was also very information for me...https://nymag.com/thecut/2016/03/
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that's my judgmental 2 cents.
My birth plan is
1) Go to hospital
2) get spinal
3) have c/S
4) try BF'ing ASAP
5) Go home with baby.
It's easy to say it won't happen to "me" but realistically it happens more than you would think especially with PPD and being so emotionally invested in a plan or picture perfect birthing experience.
Also yes you plan a wedding but how many stories have we heard of last minute changes and how stressed and upset the brides were because of them because it wasn't in their plan? Also unfortunately we can only do so much to prepare our bodies and minds for labor. In the grand scheme of things we actually have very little control and what's going to happen, happens.
ETA I'm trying to say, absolutely have a plan, just be emotionally prepared and open minded enough to deviate if needed.
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@pugsandkisses Yes and yes on being realistic and informed!! I totally agree with you there... especially the informed part though!! There was SO MUCH I didn't know before I started thinking about a birth plan... I didn't even know what skin to skin contact was or what the benefits are.
If I put it in writing that I'd like for skin to skin to happen, is it a guarantee? Of course not... does it increase my chances of a nurse saying "oh wait a sec, she wants skin to skin, here ya go, plop"... I'd like to think so. I guess my philosophy is "the answer is no until you ask" So if you want to increase your chances of xyz happening it's probably good to have it written somewhere or talk to your doc about it beforehand.
I definitely understand the thought process behind not wanting to be disappointed or devastated if something doesn't go as planned, I'm pretty much preparing myself for every scenario but even then I think it's helpful to have an idea of what you do want and don't want happening.
You know what else is stressful? When they suspect that you may have had GD (even though you passed your 1hr), after your baby is born. Stressful, is watching them come into your room and prick your newborn EVERY HOUR for 24 hours....while he/she screams bloody murder...so they can test baby's blood. Its horrible.
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I rather 'break your heart' now than you dealing with that in 3 months. Calling NILMDTS has been the worst calls in my nursing career.
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You're an adult I assume. Learn when to admit you're wrong. Saying you can't be bothered to do a simple test followed by that GIF make you look like a complete turd.
I hope you make the right decision it's a pretty simple one.
@hmcdade1 My lungs (and my nesting instinct!) hurt just from looking at that room. The dust! Not cool, Mr. HMcDade1. Not cool. I am so sorry you're living with that right now.
Regarding birth plans, I'd like to say that they aren't just about diva moms who want control. They are a useful tool for families who have ALREADY had things go wrong. When a baby or mother has special needs, a birth plan can help hospital staff be aware of the situation.
Our son's birth is NOT going to be normal. Our birth plan addresses his very specific needs, and my family's need for extreme sensitivity. I hope our plan will prevent hospital staff from going on autopilot and accidentally doing things that would be standard for most babies, but wrong in our case.
Finally, I think that anyone who "doesn't have time" for standard prenatal care but DOES have time for bumpin' on the internet needs to reconsider their priorities. Just... Why?! Don't you WANT to be tested, to take good care of your baby? I do!
My UO: Al Gore is cute. I had a crush on him when I was in middle school.
Getting that off my chest makes me feel SO much better!
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