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TTCAL check-in week of 3/7

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Re: TTCAL check-in week of 3/7

  • @catiecatp I'm sorry, I think I missed you before. Grief is, in some ways, never ending. And yes, once I got my list to down people I actually liked (I have no one from high school etc), I was able to focus on all the positive stuff in their lives. I don't keep anyone on my friend's list I wouldn't hang out and I am very protective of my life and time. If everyone I knew was having babies or whatever - then that might be different, but as it stands yay for millenials and their supposedly arrested development.
    Renee, 34 + Devon, 29 married 08/13 <3
    TTC  09/15
    *TW Loss mentioned*
    BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16
    MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3
    TTCAL 3/2016
    Acupuncture 11/16
    Dx December 2016: unexplained 
    January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI =
    BFP #2 01/30/17  Please be a sticky baby!
    EDD: 10/15/17  Measuring ahead! 10/12/17 
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  • @roper2617 - ask for the referral.  Once you have had an initial appointment with a doctor, it is often easier to get squeezed in for a follow up.  So even if there was no reason for them to keep seeing you after your initial appointment, if you needed to see them in the future it should be easier to get back in.  Usually doctors will only see a certain number of new patients per week to keep appointments open for existing patients so that is why the initial wait is so long.
  • Woo @chloe97!! I hope this is it for you!!

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  • @chloe97 I hope this is it for you!

    @MissAmeliaPond Oh man, yesterday's TWW was a rough one on TTGP. *hugs* I've missed one check-in in the past 6-7 weeks of being active this time around and the multiple BFPs in one day while I'm getting farther along in my own testing window are harsh, the rest of the time it doesn't bother me too much, and not at all/ever if it's someone else I literally see checking in daily (that accounts for 3 yesterday, but I could've had very offset cycles from the others). I might avoid the daily thing once I hit 10DPO from here on out. I never intend on announcing a BFP there anyway. I like how the weekly check-ins here are like a running conversation, but with 80 or so people on TTGP participating daily it would be impossible. I have a love/hate relationship with the daily thing. I really do. However, it makes the time go by much more slowly. But it sure beats staring at my chart that isn't going to change for another 24hrs.
  • NeikodaNeikoda member
    edited March 2016
    @MissAmeliaPond @GhanimaAtreides I couldn't agree more about the rough TTGP yesterday. Monday would have been my BFP day and I waited over the weekend to test Monday. Instead AF made an appearance Sunday night. Guess my 77pts on FF were BS. 

    I feel like it's so easy to have a love-hate relationship with the daily threads. In a way I feel like I need them so I can express my BSC without being judged but at the same time, it allows to me obsess which overall probably isn't too good for me either. And I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who blankly stares at my chart all day. That or I chart overlay with other people's PG charts to make myself hopeful.
    Me: 23 | DH: 27
    Married: 10.11.15
    MC #1: June 2014
    MC #2: December 2015
    APS Diagnosis: February 2016
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  • amberrukaamberruka member
    edited March 2016
    I had FX for you @chloe97 but just saw your post on another thread....bummer!! Bring on the wine, eh?
    Me: 39 DH: 39
    CP 1/25/16 4.5 weeks, developed Graves' disease
  • chloe97 said:
    Thanks! @amberruka that post was from yesterday when I only seen an indent. Today it was definitely pink. Waiting on the digi tomorrow though to call it. 
    I'm so excited for you! I really hope the digi confirms for you tomorrow.
  • @reneeannemm - my list is still too long - I self identify as an introvert and yet that darn list is long. A lot of my friends have children, but only some have babies - and some I know struggled with IF and/or MC. I wish there was a way to ignore shared/liked posts and still see the photos people post.
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    Me: 33 & DH: 33
    Married: 07/2006
    TTC: 10/2015
    BFP #1: 11/2015, MC 12/2015 (7 weeks)
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  • @roper2617 I would ask for the referral. I really like @catiecatp 's reasoning for it and I agree.
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  • @catiecatp @penelope4612 @megsbrock
    Yeah when put that way it really is a no brainer decision! Thanks for the input ladies :) And yeah @catiecatp I feel like I'm expecting another mc when we conceive again, it's difficult not to. 
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    BFP #1 09/23/15. MMC discovered 11/24/2015
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  • mickcolemickcole member
    edited March 2016
    1. Intro: New to this board after MMC on 12.9.15 (D&C at 10+4, baby stopped growing at 8+5).  

    2. Status: NO IDEA whether I'm WTO or TWW and it's driving me mad.  I either ovulated last Thursday and my temp dropped for no apparent reason yesterday or, more likely, I just surged but didn't O...and maybe ovulated yesterday...or today...or will tomorrow.  It's so hard for me not to know because I obsessively chart/check/analyze. 
    • I tested PEAK on CBDigi last Tues. and 
    • got + FR OPKs on Weds & Thurs, near + on Wondfo OPK Thurs but I don't think it was quite +, then
    • yesterday morning I got a temp drop so I tested again and got another PEAK on CBDigi as well as + Wondfos a few different times yesterday and 
    • a nice + Wondfo OPK this morning where the test line was FINALLY unmistakably darker than the control.
    If I didn't ovulate last Thursday then I may have missed a crucial BD window this weekend.  Ugh.


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    3. R & R: What's with all the spotting?!  Anyone else just spotting out of nowhere?  Last month was cycle # 2 after MC, and I spotted on CD10 & 11, never quite got a + ovulation test, and got period on CD23.  This month?  I spotted from CD12-20!  (Today is CD21, first day of no spotting in over a week, thank God!)  I've been checking CP, CM, temping, OPKing...everything.  My OB says it's "just a cervix being a cervix" around O time--she's not worried at all--but in my worst moments I'm afraid it means something's wrong with me :neutral: 

    4. GTKY: We started trying again straight away after MC, though it took me 7 weeks to get my first period. This is our 3rd cycle. We both feel...not romantic...not super into it...mechanical.  And sometimes he just straight up doesn't want to because he feels too pressured, and I don't blame him.

    I think we both want to get pregnant again but he's in a much more serene place about it than I am.  The loss was challenging for a while because he grieved for a few days and then was fine, and I...wasn't.  And neither of us really got where the other was.  But now that I can talk about it without crying/losing my mind, I think we're getting closer in that way again.

    But really, thank God for women.  We really get it, don't we?  What would we do without each other?



    Me:  28
    DH:  32
    BFP:  10.18.15
    MMC:  12.9.15 
    TTCAL:  January 2016


  • @mickcole Welcome and so sorry for your loss. I'm sorry about your whacky cycles, hopefully they will figure it out soon. I just wanted to say that I completely relate to your DH grieving for a few days and moving on. I got soooo mad at my H for still crying over his parents dog who passed away a year ago, and not mourning our baby more. But unfortunately men just do not connect and likely can't connect to the developing fetus like we do. They mourn an idea while we mourn a living being. Also, I just wanted to say that I had a super funky cycle this month and geared up to ovulate 2 times, complete with major temp drops before I finally ovulated 8 days late!! I was a complete wreck that week, complete with insomnia, migraines depression. It all went away after I ovulated! Fx you ovulate soon!!
  • @mickcole welcome and sorry about your loss. I hear you on the spotting! I spotted EVERY DAY between cycles 1 & 2 post mc. To top it off, AF 1 was 12 days, and AF 2 was 14 days, so I also had like 8 or 9 days of spotting. I was losing hope that I'd ever stop bleeding. It can take a frustrating amount of time for the body to figure itself out again and feel somewhat normal after a mc.  I'm betting that there's nothing "wrong" with you, BUT definitely pay attention to your gut, if you really feel like something is not quite right definitely go back to your OB. 
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    TTC #1 since 06/2014
    BFP #1 09/23/15. MMC discovered 11/24/2015
    BFP #2 08/24/16 EDD 05/08/17


  • Ok ladies - I have a question - what does ovulation pain feel like (with the understanding that it could feel different for different women)? I've got fertile CM earlier than expected for more days than I've ever had and I think I'm feeling a twinge (slightly uncomfortable) on one side in my lower abdomen. It could be something, or it could be nothing...
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    Married: 07/2006
    TTC: 10/2015
    BFP #1: 11/2015, MC 12/2015 (7 weeks)
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  • @mickcole - I'm sorry for your loss.  My DH definitely got over our loss faster than I did, even though he had been wanting to TTC for longer than I had.  It's different when it's your body I think.  Harder to ignore or forget.  Also, I'm also having a wonky cycle (fertile CM for like a week so far but no +opk) and I'm tired of having sex all the time and my DH is starting to get frustrated because I'm not into it and then it's hard for him to get into it and perform.  This is just all so tiring sometimes.  Hang in there.  And keep having sex if you can.  Even with a positive opk you may not ovulate for another 1-3 days.

    @catiecatp - my ovulation pain ranges from twinges to cramping.  Sometimes I get it on one side and then the other, or both sides at once.  Sometimes I get this fullness in my lower abdomen.  Sometimes I wonder if it's gas though.
  • @GhanimaAtreides @nwegman7878  Oh my gosh, I didn't even have time to post in TWW yesterday. When I checked last night, there were 5 pages of posts, so I knew something crazy must've been going on. I wish I hadn't opened it!! Brutal. I stared at my chart for like 30 minutes today trying to convince myself that there could still be a chance this month, even though I'm 10 dpo (AF due Thursday) and have literally no symptoms I had with my CP... The daily threads definitely contribute to the BSC obsessing, and I agree with you Ghanima, I think they make the time pass by more slowly. And I don't like being reminded of how many months deep I am into this process, either. I think I'll still spend time on TTGP, but stay away from the daily threads. Sorry yesterday was so rough on all of us! 


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  • @chloe97 yay! I can understand wanting to wait for the did to confirm and call it but it sounds like a big congratulations in is order. :)

    2/3. TWW- 3DPO. DH was having some serious performance anxiety issues this month for some reason so our timing was just really bad. -4 and that is it. So I'm honestly just waiting for AF and then back to WTO. Hopefully our timing is better next month. 

    3.5. I'm normally so overly optimistic and happy the first week of the TWW. It feels like anything is possible and it's totally going to be our cycle. The first week of every TWW I'm just so happy and excited whenever I see a BFP or a success story. Life is just great. And then when I have yet another BFN on 13DPO I start to feel defeated and depressed. Around that point suddenly I can't take seeing another BFP and I start feeling like I'll never have a baby. Apparently, with our bad our timing was, I just skipped the happy TWW week this time and went straight to feeling depressed and defeated. :(

    4. GTKY: DH and I are more or less on the same page. It still really bugs me when he makes comments about how we "just started trying" and how I "shouldn't be sad" because it "takes a lot of couples years." DH has also apparently decided we'll have several losses before our take-home rainbow baby and he's totes cool with that. I'm not on the same page with that AT ALL. He literally just told me a story the other day about how this guy he works with just found out and he and his wife are having triplets. This was apparently after they'd had 3 losses. DH was like "maybe that's how it will work for us! Maybe we'll have another couple of losses and then have twins or something!" No, DH, just no. Please don't ever say that again. I certainly don't want to convince myself that I'm doomed to having "a couple more losses."
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  • @catiecatp I've only had ovulation pain since my MC. I only get it on one side (presumably the side that is producing the egg that month) and it's been anything from a barely noticeable small cramp to a sudden painful stabbing cramp that took my breath away. (Thankfully the latter ones only happened a few  times and were short little stabs). Overall I'd say they feel like slightly less painful period cramps, but only on one side.

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    MC #2: July 1, 2016 (5.5 weeks)
    MC #3: October 17, 2016 (CP)
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    MC #4: Feb. 28, 2017 (CP)
    RE #2: Additional RPL testing March-November 2017
    MC #5: January 2019 (6.5 weeks)

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    FET #2: September 2024 (failed)

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  • Congrats @chloe97! So excited for you!!
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    TTC #1 since 06/2014
    BFP #1 09/23/15. MMC discovered 11/24/2015
    BFP #2 08/24/16 EDD 05/08/17


  • @chloe97 wishing you a happy and healthy 9 months. Hopefully we will join you in PGAL soon. It's rainbow time!
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  • Congrats @chloe97! FX we all get to join you soon. 
    Me: 23 | DH: 27
    Married: 10.11.15
    MC #1: June 2014
    MC #2: December 2015
    APS Diagnosis: February 2016
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  • @catiecatp For me ovulation pain feels like a pinch or a small cramp, like if I work out too much without hydrating if that makes sense? It's also very fleeting and comes and goes pretty quickly. My right ovary is actually low and far back for me so I feel O pain more on my side/hip area whereas my left I feel more in my lower abdomen/pelvic area. I believe the two times I've been pregnant I ovulated on my right side, which seems interesting since I've been told it is low and farther away than "normal". 

  • @catiecatp ovulation pains for me often feel sharp and twinge like. I've felt it in either sides and sometimes both at the same time. Other times I've felt the pain radiate from one side to the other. 
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    TTC #1 since 06/2014
    BFP #1 09/23/15. MMC discovered 11/24/2015
    BFP #2 08/24/16 EDD 05/08/17


  • Excited for you @chloe97!! Happy & healthy pregnancy to you!
  • @chloe97 - congratulations!
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  • Congratulations @chloe97!! I'm so excited for you! Best wishes for a healthy pregnancy and new squish  :)❤️

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    @chloe97 Yay!!! I'm so very happy for you! :)
    Me: 29, DH: 29
    Married 9/27/14
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    BFP: 1/2/16, EDD 9/13/16 - MMC 2/10/16
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  • @chloe97 Many congratulations! :)
    Renee, 34 + Devon, 29 married 08/13 <3
    TTC  09/15
    *TW Loss mentioned*
    BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16
    MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3
    TTCAL 3/2016
    Acupuncture 11/16
    Dx December 2016: unexplained 
    January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI =
    BFP #2 01/30/17  Please be a sticky baby!
    EDD: 10/15/17  Measuring ahead! 10/12/17 
    Ambrose born on his due date!

  • @catiecatp mine usually feels like twinges on one side, usually my left.  I never ovulated before so when it first was happening I had no idea, but now I know that's what is is around O time.

    @chloe97 YESSSSS!!  This was the best thing to see this morning.  FX for a healthy nine months :) 
  • Thanks for the ovulation pain info - it sounds like that is what I had, with a bit of tenderness still there this morning, but no temperature spike so maybe it was something else...
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    Me: 33 & DH: 33
    Married: 07/2006
    TTC: 10/2015
    BFP #1: 11/2015, MC 12/2015 (7 weeks)
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  • @chloe97 congratulations!!!! Best wishes for a healthy pregnancy. :-) I'm home sick from work and you made my day!
    Me: 39 DH: 39
    CP 1/25/16 4.5 weeks, developed Graves' disease
  • @catiecatp I'm so relieved to see another chart in Celsius; Imperial measurements make my head spin.

    I'm having a bad time. I felt so good when my period started and now that it's over it seems like I have POST menstruation syndrome. I'm grumpy and sad and emotional - none of which are normal for me, I'm not moody at all.
    Renee, 34 + Devon, 29 married 08/13 <3
    TTC  09/15
    *TW Loss mentioned*
    BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16
    MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3
    TTCAL 3/2016
    Acupuncture 11/16
    Dx December 2016: unexplained 
    January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI =
    BFP #2 01/30/17  Please be a sticky baby!
    EDD: 10/15/17  Measuring ahead! 10/12/17 
    Ambrose born on his due date!

  • @aera11 Sorry about your friend. This is why I think MC needs to be talked about more. People will then know how to react. It's just like any other time people are grieving a simple i'm sorry or how are you doing works.

    @missameliapond I get you on the TTGP board. I go in waves were I can handle it and waves were I can't

    @chloe97 Congrats!!

    @namelessaria Sorry you are feeling down. I don't to give false hope but I think there were a couple people on TTGP that had -4 timing and it worked. I guess what I am saying is it's not the best but it's not impossible.
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    • BFP: 3/10/16 — Baby Girl born 11/20/16
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  • NamelessAriaNamelessAria member
    edited March 2016
    @m6agua No you're right. It isn't impossible. It is pretty unlikely though. It's kinda like I told DH the other night "If it is meant to be then -4 is good enough. It's not like we're expecting an immaculate conception here or something. But we shouldn't get our hopes up."

    I really got my hopes up last cycle more than I should have because our timing was pretty amazing (at least for us) with -4, -2, -1, O so I was like "surely that's good enough!" I guess now I'm having the whole "if that wasn't good enough this definitely isn't good enough" thing.

    ETA: Thank you for the words of encouragement though. I definitely need it.
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    TTC#1: January 2015- September 2016
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  • @reneeannemm - yep, Fahrenheit makes my head swim too - near as I can figure each .1C is about .18F (if you're trying to figure out shifts)... and hugs for the bad mood - I hate it when I can't put a finger on why I'm feeling the way that I am (and it doesn't help that DH seems to always know why he feels the way he does - so if I feel depressed he thinks I should know why I feel that way...)
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  • @chloe97 Big congrats to you! FX for a happy and healthy 9 months! 

    Sorry for everyone who's having a rough week. I'm also sorry for not taking the time to respond to everyone - it's a crazy week here with grant writing and issues discussed below.  

    2. WTO - CD9. I'll probably start OPKs tomorrow. 

    3. Rant to be included in the GTKY. 

    TMI:
    4. This is a really appropriate question for me this week. I wish I would have looked at the board sooner, but I had a really hard weekend and am still trying to recover. DH suffers from pornography addiction. It's something that we addressed early in our relationship, and though he had relapsed once right after we were married, we sought counseling and fought through it. It's pretty obvious when he has relapsed, because he suffers from porn-induced erectile dysfunction - mainly from the guilt of hiding it from me. After the last relapse, when everything returned to normal, we conceived what ended up being our loss. He promised that he would never hide his relapses from me again. After the loss, I was worried sick that he would relapse from the stress. We really had only tried to BD during the fertile window, and sometimes he could perform, and others he couldn't. Last week, I was really stressed out over the fact that we weren't BD-ing outside of the fertile window, even with my advances. After me asking several times if he had relapsed, he finally came clean. He indeed had relapsed and tried to quit cold-turkey over and over again over the past 3 months. I was (and am still) so hurt that he hid it from me - his truthfulness was the one stipulation I had when it happened before. So, after this go around, he's joined a support group, back in therapy, and lets me know whenever he feels susceptible or triggered. We've also set up ways where I can monitor his computer from my own, and he has no idea when I could pop in to check on what he's doing. I love my husband with my whole heart, and I know the wonderful, amazing man he is when he is not overwhelmed with his disease. But my heart still aches. He told me that he wanted to tell me about his relapse, but I was inconsolable after the loss and he couldn't stand the thought of adding anything to my mourning. So on top of it all, I feel so guilty for being so wrapped up in my own sadness that I left him on his own to fall victim to his own brain. He was there for me in every bit of my sadness, he wiped every tear, held me every time I sobbed, told me everyday that it was going to be okay - but I wasn't there for him. I might as well have gone to the dirty sites for him. 

    At this point, it probably looks like we shouldn't still be TTC from the outside, and if I had any thoughts about leaving him or our marriage not working out in the future, we wouldn't be. I know his heart, and I know that he really is doing everything in his power to overcome this, even more-so than the previous relapse. I also know that this probably won't be the last relapse he suffers, but I know he needs me to be there for him if he does again. He is my favorite person in the entire world, and faults and all, I love him with every ounce of my being. Anyways, all of that to say, we may not be as strong as we once were at this very second, but I know we get stronger with every heartache and hardship. 

                                        
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  • @cj260 thinking and praying for you and your DH as he recovers. You sound like you have a very strong relationship, which is a great foundation to handle future challenges. 
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