@GhanimaAtreides Thank you! I'm glad someone else understands that. I feel terrible bc my pregnant girlfriend has gone through so many losses and I do not begrudge her her pregnancy, but it's still going to be really hard if I'm not pregnant!!!
QUESTION******************************^ For those of you that use WONDFO OPKs. How many minutes does it take for a true positive show up? I think I mentioned earlier that I had never gotten even a line on an OPK until last week. I'm not sure if that's because I had a faulty batch or if I was throwing them away before the line showed up. With HPTs, the 2nd line always showed up immediately. I'm noticing that if I test with an OPK, take a shower, and come back to it 10 minutes later, there's a pretty good, though still faint, line. The problem is that I'm now testing at work in the afternoon and I don't want to sit in the bathroom for 10 minutes waiting. So for those of you who get positives on WONDFOS, do you have to wait it out the whole 5 minutes til the line darkens or is it pretty obvious right away??
@GhanimaAtreides Thank you! I'm glad someone else understands that. I feel terrible bc my pregnant girlfriend has gone through so many losses and I do not begrudge her her pregnancy, but it's still going to be really hard if I'm not pregnant!!!
QUESTION******************************^ For those of you that use WONDFO OPKs. How many minutes does it take for a true positive show up? I think I mentioned earlier that I had never gotten even a line on an OPK until last week. I'm not sure if that's because I had a faulty batch or if I was throwing them away before the line showed up. With HPTs, the 2nd line always showed up immediately. I'm noticing that if I test with an OPK, take a shower, and come back to it 10 minutes later, there's a pretty good, though still faint, line. The problem is that I'm now testing at work in the afternoon and I don't want to sit in the bathroom for 10 minutes waiting. So for those of you who get positives on WONDFOS, do you have to wait it out the whole 5 minutes til the line darkens or is it pretty obvious right away??
This is the first cycle I've had positives. It showed up fairly quickly.... And was unmistakable.
Mama to two perfect little girls. Lucy 07-13-11 Violet 03-13-14 Conceived #3 since September 2015 11-25-15 twelve week loss 07-21-16 ten week loss 10-03-16 5 week loss TTC again soon!
@chloe97 The line pretty much shows up right away as the liquid creeps up the test strip. I wait until it dries though first to call if the test line is equal to or darker.
Are you testing first thing in the morning? LH takes 5-6hrs to show in urine after it shows in blood and it's been said that between 5-8am are the worst hours to catch a surge on a urine OPK. I test at 11am and close to O day I step it up to 11am & 10pm/bedtime.
Also, look up "fake Wondfo" in the search box. Some Amazon companies have been caught distributing knockoff tests. So maybe check if your source is legit.
@GhanimaAtreides Thank you! I'm glad someone else understands that. I feel terrible bc my pregnant girlfriend has gone through so many losses and I do not begrudge her her pregnancy, but it's still going to be really hard if I'm not pregnant!!!
QUESTION******************************^ For those of you that use WONDFO OPKs. How many minutes does it take for a true positive show up? I think I mentioned earlier that I had never gotten even a line on an OPK until last week. I'm not sure if that's because I had a faulty batch or if I was throwing them away before the line showed up. With HPTs, the 2nd line always showed up immediately. I'm noticing that if I test with an OPK, take a shower, and come back to it 10 minutes later, there's a pretty good, though still faint, line. The problem is that I'm now testing at work in the afternoon and I don't want to sit in the bathroom for 10 minutes waiting. So for those of you who get positives on WONDFOS, do you have to wait it out the whole 5 minutes til the line darkens or is it pretty obvious right away??
My Wondfos gave me faint line day after day and then one day it got *almost* as dark as the control line. No the same, not darker, but obviously darker than it had ever been before. And I O'ed like the next day. I think it depends upon where in the surge you catch it. But it would only take a few mins, basically once the liquid had reached the top of the strip it was there or not/didn't get darker. Agree with checking to make sure you ordered your Wondfos from a legit source. There is a thread somewhere on TTGP listing the verified sellers on Amazon.
@chloe97 I got my first positive ever on a wondfo today! I could tell almost immediately that there was a line there, but it took maybe 2 or 3 minutes to be able to judge how dark it was.
TTC #1 since June 2015 BFP #1 Nov 2015 ended in MC Dec 26 2015 BFP #2 Feb 2016, EDD Nov 8 2016
@catiecatp - I see nothing wrong with asking for a progesterone test at your first appointment. Especially if you have any other "high risk" factors.
@ghanimaatreides - I think it depends on what the underlying cause is for the low progesterone. I have heard that you have to take from ovulation for luteal phase defect, but my issues come more in the 8-12 week phase when the egg passes off production to the uterus.
“Be present in all things and thankful for all things.” ~Maya Angelou
@chloe97 I never get truly positive OPKs but count them as such if they're pretty dark and it's still pretty accurate. I suspect they actually take more than 5 minutes to read, so I typically look at it in 5 minutes and then again a few minutes later. Although this batch does seem a little better than my last.
LFAF/Nov 16 challenge: Bad TV moms that shouldn't be celebrated
BFP #1 10/30/15 MMC found 11/30/15 D&C 12/11/15 EDD 7/9/16
healing comes in waves, and maybe today the wave hits the rocks and that’s ok, that’s ok, darling. you are still healing, you are still healing- Ijeoma Umebinyuo, be gentle with yourself BFP #2 3/21 EDD 11/28/16
@ghanimaatreides - I think it depends on what the underlying cause is for the low progesterone. I have heard that you have to take from ovulation for luteal phase defect, but my issues come more in the 8-12 week phase when the egg passes off production to the uterus.
My average LP is 13 days and nary any dips to cover line until 3 days into AF, so I don't think it's LPD. I did start spotting at 5wks, saw a HB & on track growth at 8wks, but lost it at 9w2d so I think it might be the latter.
@BooksForMe23 Yay!!! So exciting! Fx for a BFP! @GhanimaAtreides I take them at 7 am, 11 am, and 2:30. The 7 am read is just because I'm in the bathroom and it's there. I got a darker line today at 2:30, but not super dark. I'm still probably a couple days early. Hopefully tomorrow or Thursday's the day! @penelope4612 I ordered my tests off amazon from GreyNod? They had a pretty good rating. I do think my last wondfos could have been fakes though. They didn't come in the white and blue packaging, but together is a pink box from AZHEALTH https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015XWC3AO/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?qid=1455673657&sr=1-8&m=A3M7ATO72KRMP6&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65
@chloe97 I definitely need the whole time limit for mine. I used to look at them right away and toss them and it wasn't until I started letting them go the whole few minutes that I started seeing real positives. Also are you testing later at all? I always have my surge later in the early evening 6-8ish. Good luck!
@ghanimaatreides - I think it depends on what the underlying cause is for the low progesterone. I have heard that you have to take from ovulation for luteal phase defect, but my issues come more in the 8-12 week phase when the egg passes off production to the uterus.
My average LP is 13 days and nary any dips to cover line until 3 days into AF, so I don't think it's LPD. I did start spotting at 5wks, saw a HB & on track growth at 8wks, but lost it at 9w2d so I think it might be the latter.
That's almost exactly what happened to me the last time. My second was a mmc discovered at 12 wks, but in hindsight, I had symptoms that indicated declining progesterone. Unfortunately, this is one of those topics that every doctor seems to have a different idea about, but I like the waiting for a +hpt approach much better.
“Be present in all things and thankful for all things.” ~Maya Angelou
@reneeannem I'm so sorry your friend isn't being supportive. Might be time to step away, as much as that sucks. Moments like this have made me realize that life is too short to keep shitty friends around.
me 30; DH 35 TTC since May 2014. Aug 2014 BFP, EDD April 22, 2015. Low progesterone, started suppositories. Loss at 5w6d. Nov 19, 2015 BFP at 13 dpo, EDD July 29, 2016. MMC discovered 12/29 (9+4). Natural miscarriage 1/16 (12+1). AMH results 0.42, 1.2; FSH 12.1, AFC 10, dx DOR. RPL testing results normal. Nurse recommended progesterone suppositories in TWW. Clomid + trigger + TI cycle August 2016 - failed. Thin lining. Femara + trigger + TI cycle December 2016 - failed. Thin lining. Short LP (8 days). Acupuncture & Chinese herbs starting January 2017, lengthened LP to 10 days
*******TW Child mentioned************ 3. My sisters wedding in April is a huge distraction for me right now and I love it. I'm glad to be surrounded by happy thoughts. I can also rant about people's obsession with your sex life. I never ask people when they are going to have kids/have more kids. I hated that question when we were TTC the first time, I wanted to scream "we're trying, get off my back". I would probably lose my sh*t if someone asked that right now. In other instance of people being idiots, my DD has Turners and I constantly get "she's so tiny" although I want to scream "yes we know, she has a chromosome abnormality and she will always be small and will likely struggle with fertility. Thanks for your comment" I usually just smile and nod.
4. I LOVE TRAVELING!! If I won the Powerball that was a billion dollars that's what I would have done with it. I have a trip to NOLA planned for my sister's bachelorette party in about 3 weeks. If the OB didn't bench me I would have benched is until that trip was over, I need this. My family takes a big vacation every 3-4 years and it's in 2 yrs. we haven't 100% decided where we are going but I just love to go. DH hates traveling so it's always interesting
@MissPrint1219 my GP definitely doesn't put me in any high risk categories - since the prolactin levels are "solved" (by the naturopath...). You mention some symptoms that were likely indicative of declining progesterone - do you mind sharing what they were? For better or worse my MC was very fast
---TW BFP and MC mentioned - scroll down past the Lilo and Stitch gif to avoid ---
Cycle day 18 now.... And red blood..... Enough to fill up a pad.
I'm so confused. This was the first cycle I've identified ovulation since my d&c. I ovulated between CD 10-11. I guess this is potentially implantation bleeding? I just feel defeated. I feel like it's a no go this month. Happy effing birthday.
Mama to two perfect little girls. Lucy 07-13-11 Violet 03-13-14 Conceived #3 since September 2015 11-25-15 twelve week loss 07-21-16 ten week loss 10-03-16 5 week loss TTC again soon!
@BooksForMe23 I googled Outer Banks because I didn't know where that is. Sounds awesome!
@nwegman7878 Rant away! Sorry you're going through that. *hug*
@chloe97 Ugh. I get what you mean about your DH feeling what you feel. I know it's hard for them too, but nowhere near what we go through. *hug* Oh, and I did a wondfo OPK a few days ago to see if my hCG was still high (it is), just to torture myself, and it took several minutes for the test line to get as dark as the control line even though a lighter test line showed up immediately.
@RiverSong15 I hate when FF isn't clear Frustrating
@jenmlangtake2 Happy birthday!!! Oh jeez, I just read your update. Are you able to link your chart? What a confusing and frustrating and not happy birthday present. *hugs*
@MissPrint1219 That's wonderful that you're feeling good. I wish I could get there.
@catiecatp Having those symptoms sounds really confusing and frustrating.
@cjs260 Making tons of mittens sounds like a great distraction from the symptom spotting. I've been working on two blankets as part of keeping busy and distracted
@megsbrock Your husband's dinner for you! How sweet!
@m6agua It's beautiful! Thank you so much for sharing. I got mine on Saturday. I don't know about you, but I felt like getting the tattoo was super therapeutic. My tattoo guy asked me beforehand if I was absolutely sure I wanted something permanently on me what would forever remind me of something so sad. I told him that's exactly why I wanted it, because I always want to remember the little life my husband and I made, especially since baby was with us such a short time. Here's mine (it's a little blotchy since it's healing):
@beff12 I'm sorry for your loss. I've found that participating on TB really helps keep the crazy symptom spotting away. Welcome!
@GhanimaAtreides I love your solution to dealing with people saying horribly awkward, insensitive things. I think I'll try that next time.
@BornReady I hope your OB/gyn agrees to the progesterone testing. I imagine it would be nice to know either way if it is an issue or isn't.
@penelope4612 Wow! Friday is almost here! It's going to be amazing. I'm jealous
@silentP Congrats on being off the bench! Your doctor sounds very supportive.
@reneeannemm I'm sorry you're going through that with your friend. It must be incredibly difficult to be so present and supportive for her and get the opposite in return. I cry randomly too; at physical therapy, at work, at the grocery store, at my in-laws' house. I can relate to feeling like there wasn't anything before seeing baby's no-heartbeat and not remembering what normal was. Sorry you're having such a hard time. *hug*
@Megan198623 Ugh, I'm glad I didn't look at facebook on Valentines day. I've barely been going on there to avoid seeing any announcements or baby photos. Yay for good timing, FX for you!
@kayham12 I'm glad you have a happy wedding to distract you. And yeah, people really need to mind their own business.
Me: 29, DH: 29 Married 9/27/14 TTC #1 since 8/15/15 BFP: 1/2/16, EDD 9/13/16 - MMC 2/10/16 BFP: 3/17, EDD 11/23/16 November 2016 April Siggy Challenge - April Showers
@jenmlangtake2 Ugh, sorry that is happening. I had a short 23 day cycle after my miscarriage. It has amazed me how much this experience has messed up my body's rhythms.
2. Status (WTO, TWW, Benched, etc.): Back to WTO, since I got AF last Friday. *sigh*
4.
GTKY: where will you be taking your next vacation or weekend getaway? We're actually going to Florida at the beginning of march for a week or so to visit some family and just have fun.
3. Rants/raves: Since I have a longer cycle, O should appear while we're in Florida sharing hotels and/or guest rooms with relatives. Ugh! That will make things more complicated this month.
nwegman7878 Sorry
for your losses. I hope you are able to find
some information soon with the APS.
chloe97 Sorry you’re having a
stressful time. Hopefully today is
better for you!
reneeannemm I’m
sorry you’re having a rough time. I also
feel that life after MC is overwhelmingly emotional and I don’t feel like the
same person I was before my MC. It’s
gotten better over time, but going through everything and then the pressure TTC
is a lot to handle sometimes! I hope
you’re having a better day today!
MC #1: D&C Oct 23, 2015 (7.5 weeks) MC #2: July 1, 2016 (5.5 weeks) MC #3: October 17, 2016 (CP) RE #1: RPL testing November 2016-January 2017 MC #4: Feb. 28, 2017 (CP) RE #2: Additional RPL testing March-November 2017 MC #5: January 2019 (6.5 weeks)
RE #3: More testing 2023. Egg Retrieval Sept/Oct 2023, 2 good embryos after PGT-A testing. Surgery for endometriosis January 2024 Lupron Depo March 2024. Benched 3 months.
FET #1: June 3, 2024 (failed)
Lupron Depo June 2024. Benched 3 months again before next FET.
@GhanimaAtreidesI can see why you'd be somewhat concerned, with your family history, over the possibility that you have a bad "screening process" for potential babies. However, you're most likely worrying over nothing when it comes to all that. I stalked your history a bit (I have trouble keeping up with everyone and the specifics of their story. Sorry!) and it looks like you've had 1 MC. I know my doctor was very adamant that it's not uncommon to have 1 MC and it is almost never a sign of something being wrong. She assured me that after 1 MC the odds were still very much in my favor that I'd go on to have a perfectly healthy pregnancy and a healthy take-home baby, eventually. I'd say perhaps this is what you should tell yourself, for now at least. If you have another loss, God forbid, then you can across that bridge when you get there. And when you have recurrent loss testing done you could mention your concerns and perhaps your doctors could take that into consideration.
But for now I'd say to try not to worry yourself over it. The odds are in your favor that your MC isn't a sign of something else being wrong and that you'll go on to have your rainbow baby.
However, if you do have an issue with your screening process, it seems like that would make you an excellent candidate for IVF. Then you'd be able to have the embryos screened beforehand and your chances of successful implantation would be much higher than that of the average lady, right? Maybe I read the article wrong. This migraine is making it a bit hard to think clearly.
Me: 28 Husband: 31 TTC#1: January 2015- September 2016 Infertility, Recurrent Pregnancy Loss Rainbow baby born June 6, 2017 ❤️
@reneeannem I'm so sorry your friend isn't being supportive. Might be time to step away, as much as that sucks. Moments like this have made me realize that life is too short to keep shitty friends around.
Oh, yeah. It was time to step away. She then said that I blamed her for my miscarriage when I tried to explain the circumstances leading up to me finding out. At which point it became clear she was not interested in being my friend, rather she was interested in kicking me while I was down to make herself feel better.
Absolutely no room in my life for shitty friends. If you're not growing as a person, you're not in my life. DH and I have so much beauty in our inner lives to protect.
Renee, 34 + Devon, 29 married 08/13 TTC 09/15 *TW Loss mentioned* BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16 MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3 TTCAL 3/2016 Acupuncture 11/16 Dx December 2016: unexplained January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI = BFP #2 01/30/17 Please be a sticky baby! EDD: 10/15/17 Measuring ahead! 10/12/17 Ambrose born on his due date!
Thanks everyone for the replies. I guess my PMS is just way worse than its ever been. I am having a better day now so I figured I would go through everyones posts now.
On the fake drinking front. I do Whole30s quite often so that is always my excuse for not drinking.
@jenmlangtake2 Have you ever tried baking eggs instead of boiling them? I tried it a long time ago and now thats the only way I make them "hard boiled".
@MissPrint1219 Good for you! I hope I can get to that "zen" feeling soon. This TTCAL stuff is so emotionally draining.
@Af2013nl It's ok to feel how you feel. I haven't gotten to my due date yet but I am sure it will be tough.
@beff12Yes I was in May16. I have been going BSC every TWW since my loss. Why do I do this to myself?
@GhanimaAtreides Thanks for the FX, but 10DPO for me is not early when my LP post lost has been 11DPO. Also it was coupled with a gigantic temp drop and spotting. I am on CD1 now. Also I think we all have things we worry about. I don't know much about what you are talking about but if you are concerned maybe bring up your fears with your doctor.
@FiancB I'm starting my 4th cycle and figuring out that I may not go back to normal. I may just have a new normal now.
@reneeannemm Sorry about your friend. Some people are just not good at the support thing.
@Megan198623 Ugh the V-day pregnancy announcements were the worst.
@zrain Your tattoo is beautiful as well. I also followed in your footsteps and posted on FB. I knew right away when I found out in Nov that I would want to be open and public with my MC. It just took me a while to get there.
1. I suppose I should start by introducing myself. I've been sort of lurking for the last 6 or so weeks, I figured it was about time I jumped on in! We have been TTC since December following a late November loss with my first pregnancy. All was well until January when my body benched itself, boo! But! It seems that my uterus has decided to return to its somewhat more cooperative state. (Long story short I basically bled for 6 weeks straight, if I wasn't bleeding I was spotting, NOT FUN. I had a faint BFP on a FRER on Dec 31, but then began bleeding days later and we actually have no answers for what that was). It took us 15 months to conceive last time, I am cautiously optimistic that it will happen sooner this time.
2. Currently nearing the end of the TWW. The suspense is killing me.
3. Rant/Rave. Not a lot to rant about today, just impatiently waiting to find out if this month is the BFP or not. Should find out by Friday
4. GTKY. DH and I were supposed to go to Jamacia again this winter, but unfortunately he got laid off, which means no vacay or even weekend getaway for us anytime soon. Looks like it's stay-cations for now.
@reneeannemm I'm so sorry about your friend. That's so crappy. I've had to fuss on a couple of friends who were really insensitive (one kept sending me videos of toddlers behaving badly as examples of why I shouldn't be concerned about children right now - inexcusable, I still only speak to her occasionally). I hope that you find a wonderful bosom friend soon! (your name of anne with an "e" always reminds me of Anne of Green Gables )
@jenmlangtake2 Ugh. I'm sorry - I'm sure that's not the birthday present you were wanting to get.
@zrain That's a wonderful tattoo. I'm trying to pick one out but I haven't had anything just strike me as right, but I love your choice!
@m6agua I'm sorry for awful PMS - it really is the worst.
@babyroper16 I am right there with you - I'll be testing on Saturday! FX for us this cycle!
@cjs260 I'm sorry about your friend, too. That's awful.
Ahh, as for Anne of Green Gables: Let me tell you how serendipitous that is. I am a redhead who was entirely obsessed with the stories as a child. I did my hair like her, I hoped for puffy sleeves like her, I had deep-seated shame about my red hair like her. We visited Canvendish in PEI when I was about ten. My middle name is Anne, which was such a source of pride for me. And right now, as we speak, my husband is reading the book and delightfully recounting it, chapter by chapter to me. He just tried to convince me we should re-use Anne as a name, if we're so lucky to have a daughter (I vetoed; It's already my name!!).
Renee, 34 + Devon, 29 married 08/13 TTC 09/15 *TW Loss mentioned* BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16 MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3 TTCAL 3/2016 Acupuncture 11/16 Dx December 2016: unexplained January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI = BFP #2 01/30/17 Please be a sticky baby! EDD: 10/15/17 Measuring ahead! 10/12/17 Ambrose born on his due date!
@reneeannemm That is epic! Anne of Green Gables (both the books and the movies) has always been a stronghold for me in times of trouble. Growing up, we called sick days "Anne days" because we would stay home and watch all of the movies! I've probably watched the movies 4x over the past 3 months since all this has happened. DH grew up with them too - I think it was one of the things that bonded us in the beginning. (We're both from the deep south, MS and AL, so it's always fun to run into other Anne lovers!) I'm so jealous of your visit to PEI! It's definitely one of my bucket list trips!
@reneeannemm That is epic! Anne of Green Gables (both the books and the movies) has always been a stronghold for me in times of trouble. Growing up, we called sick days "Anne days" because we would stay home and watch all of the movies! I've probably watched the movies 4x over the past 3 months since all this has happened. DH grew up with them too - I think it was one of the things that bonded us in the beginning. (We're both from the deep south, MS and AL, so it's always fun to run into other Anne lovers!) I'm so jealous of your visit to PEI! It's definitely one of my bucket list trips!
Aww, so sweet. Truly such a joyous character and story. We think about retiring to PEI sometimes, it's so gorgeous there, but that's a long way off.
Renee, 34 + Devon, 29 married 08/13 TTC 09/15 *TW Loss mentioned* BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16 MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3 TTCAL 3/2016 Acupuncture 11/16 Dx December 2016: unexplained January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI = BFP #2 01/30/17 Please be a sticky baby! EDD: 10/15/17 Measuring ahead! 10/12/17 Ambrose born on his due date!
Chiming in - oh I love Anne and PEI - such a lovely place. I'd move there in a heartbeat if there was a position at the university. I've got some extended family on the island and the last time I was out there I went to see the play of Anne of Green Gables and it was magical.
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@catiecatp - in my second pregnancy, I had light brown discharge from about week 7 to week 9 (the baby stopped growing at 10 wks and we discovered the sac had collapsed at my 12 wk appt). I have since learned that kind of prolonged dark spotting could be a sign that the uterine lining is breaking down due to declining progesterone. At the time, I didn't worry because it was light and not red, and I didn't know to ask for my levels to be tested. In my third pregnancy, I asked for a progesterone test at 6 wks, which my doctor ordered despite it not being part of their "normal" routine, but she never read the results until I came back in for an us at 8.5 weeks and she couldn't find a heartbeat anymore. After stumbling around her notes, she told me that all of the test results from my first appt looked good except my progesterone was "a little low". My progesterone at 6 wks was 7, which is dangerously low. I can't help but wonder if I had pushed harder, not just for the test but for the results, that something could have been done to save my baby. That said, progesterone can be a chicken or an egg (either causing or indicating a loss), so supplementing may not always help.
“Be present in all things and thankful for all things.” ~Maya Angelou
@m6aguaI hate that we're both in here but it's nice to see a familiar name. I'm sorry that you're driving yourself crazy - I am too. I just had a full-fledged meltdown in the kitchen over my poptarts because I'm 99% that this cycle is not the one. I can't even begin to explain how crazy I feel right now, so it's great that everyone in here understands. Solidarity, friend.
June Siggy Challenge: Dad Fails
Married 7.28.2012 DD born 7.27.2014 BFP 09.2015 - m/c 10.21.2015
@beff12 it is nice to see familiar names. I think the worst thing about being May 16 BMB was around the new year so many people were saying "may 2016 be better" it made me think about my mc even more. This TTCAL thing sucks and it is nice to have this community that understands. I think I've been getting crazier because I really wanted a baby this year and I only have 2 more cycles for that to happen.
2. WTO. I had my OB appointment this week and have finally been cleared to start trying again.
3. I'm feeling anxious about trying again and am irritated with myself for being caught up in my head, worrying about if it'll happen this month, if it'll stick this time, etc. We haven't had sex since before Christmas (poor DH) and I really just need to get my sh*t together and get to it. We've been together for 13 years so I'm not sure why I'm suddenly feeling awkward about it. It is a relief to see many of you with similar thoughts/feelings.
4. I'm hoping to travel to Juneau for a few days in March to spend time with a friend. I'm so ready to get away from the interior (Fairbanks) and see some mountains and ocean!
beff12 Sorry about your meltdown. Totally sucks at the end of the TWW when we're already emotional and hopeful to get the BFN or just feel it's not the month for us. Hope you're having a better day today!
m6agua I came to the realization that there's only a few cycles left for 2016 a few days ago as well. I wish I hadn't realized that because now it feels like extra stress and pressure.
MC #1: D&C Oct 23, 2015 (7.5 weeks) MC #2: July 1, 2016 (5.5 weeks) MC #3: October 17, 2016 (CP) RE #1: RPL testing November 2016-January 2017 MC #4: Feb. 28, 2017 (CP) RE #2: Additional RPL testing March-November 2017 MC #5: January 2019 (6.5 weeks)
RE #3: More testing 2023. Egg Retrieval Sept/Oct 2023, 2 good embryos after PGT-A testing. Surgery for endometriosis January 2024 Lupron Depo March 2024. Benched 3 months.
FET #1: June 3, 2024 (failed)
Lupron Depo June 2024. Benched 3 months again before next FET.
@MissPrint1219 and @catiecatp Just chiming in on the progesterone issue. I've been told I will need to be supplemented with progesterone mid-pregnancy because I have history of premature birth/PPROM (water broke too early). I'm suspecting that low progesterone might have been an issue with this miscarriage because I was still breastfeeding and had very little symptoms after 6 weeks, when the baby stopped growing and had some periods of cramping/fertile looking CM and depressed mood.
As far as now, I do wonder about progesterone because of my short LP and fertile CM during my luteal phase. I have my yearly today, so I'm going to ask about it. Like @MissPrint1219 said though progesterone, from my understanding, is a "chicken or the egg" thing. Some say supplementation after ovulation is pointless because low progesterone can be the result of a low quality egg that would not produce a viable pregnancy anyways. So sometimes the "treatment" is addressing ovulation itself increasing egg quality. Or supplementing with progesterone after getting a BFP. Regardless I will ask after my next BFP for a progesterone check.
Thanks so much @m6aguaand @dpjennifer. We really want a baby this year, too. I took a FRER this morning - BFN. AF should come tomorrow or Saturday. I have one cycle left for a 2016 baby so let's hope next month is the month!
June Siggy Challenge: Dad Fails
Married 7.28.2012 DD born 7.27.2014 BFP 09.2015 - m/c 10.21.2015
Re: TTCAL check-in 2/15
QUESTION******************************^
For those of you that use WONDFO OPKs. How many minutes does it take for a true positive show up? I think I mentioned earlier that I had never gotten even a line on an OPK until last week. I'm not sure if that's because I had a faulty batch or if I was throwing them away before the line showed up. With HPTs, the 2nd line always showed up immediately. I'm noticing that if I test with an OPK, take a shower, and come back to it 10 minutes later, there's a pretty good, though still faint, line. The problem is that I'm now testing at work in the afternoon and I don't want to sit in the bathroom for 10 minutes waiting. So for those of you who get positives on WONDFOS, do you have to wait it out the whole 5 minutes til the line darkens or is it pretty obvious right away??
Lucy 07-13-11
Violet 03-13-14
Conceived #3 since September 2015
11-25-15 twelve week loss
07-21-16 ten week loss
10-03-16 5 week loss
TTC again soon!
Are you testing first thing in the morning? LH takes 5-6hrs to show in urine after it shows in blood and it's been said that between 5-8am are the worst hours to catch a surge on a urine OPK. I test at 11am and close to O day I step it up to 11am & 10pm/bedtime.
Also, look up "fake Wondfo" in the search box. Some Amazon companies have been caught distributing knockoff tests. So maybe check if your source is legit.
BFP #1 Nov 2015 ended in MC Dec 26 2015
BFP #2 Feb 2016, EDD Nov 8 2016
@ghanimaatreides - I think it depends on what the underlying cause is for the low progesterone. I have heard that you have to take from ovulation for luteal phase defect, but my issues come more in the 8-12 week phase when the egg passes off production to the uterus.
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Me: 40 DH: 39
Married 12.19.13
BFP #1 1/14, MC 2/14 (6wks)
BFP #2 1/15, MMC/D&C 3/15 (12wks)
BFP #3 6/15, MC 8/15 (9wks)
BFP #4 4/16, MC 4/16 (5wks)
BFP #5 7/16, MMC 8/16 (10 wks)
BFP #6 3/4 , EDD 11/9/17
BFP #2 3/21 EDD 11/28/16
Anyway, don't order this one^^^^
https://forums.thebump.com/discussion/12586232/wondfo-imposters-psa
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Me: 40 DH: 39
Married 12.19.13
BFP #1 1/14, MC 2/14 (6wks)
BFP #2 1/15, MMC/D&C 3/15 (12wks)
BFP #3 6/15, MC 8/15 (9wks)
BFP #4 4/16, MC 4/16 (5wks)
BFP #5 7/16, MMC 8/16 (10 wks)
BFP #6 3/4 , EDD 11/9/17
TTC since May 2014.
Aug 2014 BFP, EDD April 22, 2015. Low progesterone, started suppositories. Loss at 5w6d.
Nov 19, 2015 BFP at 13 dpo, EDD July 29, 2016. MMC discovered 12/29 (9+4). Natural miscarriage 1/16 (12+1).
AMH results 0.42, 1.2; FSH 12.1, AFC 10, dx DOR.
RPL testing results normal. Nurse recommended progesterone suppositories in TWW.
Clomid + trigger + TI cycle August 2016 - failed. Thin lining.
Femara + trigger + TI cycle December 2016 - failed. Thin lining.
Short LP (8 days).
Acupuncture & Chinese herbs starting January 2017, lengthened LP to 10 days
Summer 2016 LFAF awards:
Winter 2016/2017 LFAF awards:
*******TW Child mentioned************
3. My sisters wedding in April is a huge distraction for me right now and I love it. I'm glad to be surrounded by happy thoughts. I can also rant about people's obsession with your sex life. I never ask people when they are going to have kids/have more kids. I hated that question when we were TTC the first time, I wanted to scream "we're trying, get off my back". I would probably lose my sh*t if someone asked that right now. In other instance of people being idiots, my DD has Turners and I constantly get "she's so tiny" although I want to scream "yes we know, she has a chromosome abnormality and she will always be small and will likely struggle with fertility. Thanks for your comment" I usually just smile and nod.
4. I LOVE TRAVELING!! If I won the Powerball that was a billion dollars that's what I would have done with it. I have a trip to NOLA planned for my sister's bachelorette party in about 3 weeks. If the OB didn't bench me I would have benched is until that trip was over, I need this. My family takes a big vacation every 3-4 years and it's in 2 yrs. we haven't 100% decided where we are going but I just love to go. DH hates traveling so it's always interesting
Me: 33 & DH: 33
Married: 07/2006
TTC: 10/2015
BFP #1: 11/2015, MC 12/2015 (7 weeks)
BFP #2: 06/2016, EDD 2/15/2017
Cycle day 18 now.... And red blood..... Enough to fill up a pad.
I'm so confused. This was the first cycle I've identified ovulation since my d&c. I ovulated between CD 10-11. I guess this is potentially implantation bleeding? I just feel defeated. I feel like it's a no go this month.
Happy effing birthday.
Lucy 07-13-11
Violet 03-13-14
Conceived #3 since September 2015
11-25-15 twelve week loss
07-21-16 ten week loss
10-03-16 5 week loss
TTC again soon!
@nwegman7878 Rant away! Sorry you're going through that. *hug*
@chloe97 Ugh. I get what you mean about your DH feeling what you feel. I know it's hard for them too, but nowhere near what we go through. *hug* Oh, and I did a wondfo OPK a few days ago to see if my hCG was still high (it is), just to torture myself, and it took several minutes for the test line to get as dark as the control line even though a lighter test line showed up immediately.
@RiverSong15 I hate when FF isn't clear
@jenmlangtake2 Happy birthday!!! Oh jeez, I just read your update. Are you able to link your chart? What a confusing and frustrating and not happy birthday present. *hugs*
@jlo1019 I've always wanted to go to Yellowstone!
@MissPrint1219 That's wonderful that you're feeling good. I wish I could get there.
@catiecatp Having those symptoms sounds really confusing and frustrating.
@cjs260 Making tons of mittens sounds like a great distraction from the symptom spotting. I've been working on two blankets as part of keeping busy and distracted
@fivetimesnoluck I'm glad you had a good day
@Aera11 Ugh...people just don't think before they talk sometimes...so rude
@AF2013nl *hug* I have family in Ireland too! Have fun on your trip
@Knottie12904461 I'm glad you had a good gyn appointment!
@megsbrock Your husband's dinner for you! How sweet!
@m6agua It's beautiful! Thank you so much for sharing. I got mine on Saturday. I don't know about you, but I felt like getting the tattoo was super therapeutic. My tattoo guy asked me beforehand if I was absolutely sure I wanted something permanently on me what would forever remind me of something so sad. I told him that's exactly why I wanted it, because I always want to remember the little life my husband and I made, especially since baby was with us such a short time. Here's mine (it's a little blotchy since it's healing):
@beff12 I'm sorry for your loss. I've found that participating on TB really helps keep the crazy symptom spotting away. Welcome!
@GhanimaAtreides I love your solution to dealing with people saying horribly awkward, insensitive things. I think I'll try that next time.
@BornReady I hope your OB/gyn agrees to the progesterone testing. I imagine it would be nice to know either way if it is an issue or isn't.
@FiancB Sorry for weird cycles. Have fun in SF!
@penelope4612 Wow! Friday is almost here! It's going to be amazing. I'm jealous
@silentP Congrats on being off the bench! Your doctor sounds very supportive.
@reneeannemm I'm sorry you're going through that with your friend. It must be incredibly difficult to be so present and supportive for her and get the opposite in return. I cry randomly too; at physical therapy, at work, at the grocery store, at my in-laws' house. I can relate to feeling like there wasn't anything before seeing baby's no-heartbeat and not remembering what normal was. Sorry you're having such a hard time. *hug*
@Megan198623 Ugh, I'm glad I didn't look at facebook on Valentines day. I've barely been going on there to avoid seeing any announcements or baby photos. Yay for good timing, FX for you!
@kayham12 I'm glad you have a happy wedding to distract you. And yeah, people really need to mind their own business.
Married 9/27/14
TTC #1 since 8/15/15
BFP: 1/2/16, EDD 9/13/16 - MMC 2/10/16
BFP: 3/17, EDD 11/23/16
November 2016 April Siggy Challenge - April Showers
2. Status (WTO, TWW, Benched, etc.): Back to WTO, since I got AF last Friday. *sigh*
4. GTKY: where will you be taking your next vacation or weekend getaway? We're actually going to Florida at the beginning of march for a week or so to visit some family and just have fun.
3. Rants/raves: Since I have a longer cycle, O should appear while we're in Florida sharing hotels and/or guest rooms with relatives. Ugh! That will make things more complicated this month.
nwegman7878 Sorry for your losses. I hope you are able to find some information soon with the APS.
chloe97 Sorry you’re having a stressful time. Hopefully today is better for you!
m6agua I hope you’re having a better day today!
reneeannemm I’m sorry you’re having a rough time. I also feel that life after MC is overwhelmingly emotional and I don’t feel like the same person I was before my MC. It’s gotten better over time, but going through everything and then the pressure TTC is a lot to handle sometimes! I hope you’re having a better day today!
MC #1: D&C Oct 23, 2015 (7.5 weeks)
MC #2: July 1, 2016 (5.5 weeks)
MC #3: October 17, 2016 (CP)
RE #1: RPL testing November 2016-January 2017
MC #4: Feb. 28, 2017 (CP)
RE #2: Additional RPL testing March-November 2017
MC #5: January 2019 (6.5 weeks)
RE #3: More testing 2023.
Egg Retrieval Sept/Oct 2023, 2 good embryos after PGT-A testing.
Surgery for endometriosis January 2024
Lupron Depo March 2024. Benched 3 months.
FET #1: June 3, 2024 (failed)
Lupron Depo June 2024. Benched 3 months again before next FET.
FET #2: September 2024 (failed)
FET #3: December 2024 (failed)
#BitterHagPartyOf1
DD born 7.27.2014
BFP 09.2015 - m/c 10.21.2015
But for now I'd say to try not to worry yourself over it. The odds are in your favor that your MC isn't a sign of something else being wrong and that you'll go on to have your rainbow baby.
However, if you do have an issue with your screening process, it seems like that would make you an excellent candidate for IVF. Then you'd be able to have the embryos screened beforehand and your chances of successful implantation would be much higher than that of the average lady, right? Maybe I read the article wrong. This migraine is making it a bit hard to think clearly.
TTC#1: January 2015- September 2016
Infertility, Recurrent Pregnancy Loss
Rainbow baby born June 6, 2017 ❤️
Baby #2 due June 12, 2018
Absolutely no room in my life for shitty friends. If you're not growing as a person, you're not in my life. DH and I have so much beauty in our inner lives to protect.
TTC 09/15
*TW Loss mentioned*
BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16
MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3
TTCAL 3/2016
Acupuncture 11/16
Dx December 2016: unexplained
January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI =
BFP #2 01/30/17 Please be a sticky baby!
EDD: 10/15/17 Measuring ahead! 10/12/17
Ambrose born on his due date!
On the fake drinking front. I do Whole30s quite often so that is always my excuse for not drinking.
@AL_TwinCities Hope your CD3 testing goes well.
@jenmlangtake2 Have you ever tried baking eggs instead of boiling them? I tried it a long time ago and now thats the only way I make them "hard boiled".
@MissPrint1219 Good for you! I hope I can get to that "zen" feeling soon. This TTCAL stuff is so emotionally draining.
@Af2013nl It's ok to feel how you feel. I haven't gotten to my due date yet but I am sure it will be tough.
@beff12Yes I was in May16. I have been going BSC every TWW since my loss. Why do I do this to myself?
@GhanimaAtreides Thanks for the FX, but 10DPO for me is not early when my LP post lost has been 11DPO. Also it was coupled with a gigantic temp drop and spotting. I am on CD1 now. Also I think we all have things we worry about. I don't know much about what you are talking about but if you are concerned maybe bring up your fears with your doctor.
@FiancB I'm starting my 4th cycle and figuring out that I may not go back to normal. I may just have a new normal now.
@reneeannemm Sorry about your friend. Some people are just not good at the support thing.
@Megan198623 Ugh the V-day pregnancy announcements were the worst.
@zrain Your tattoo is beautiful as well. I also followed in your footsteps and posted on FB. I knew right away when I found out in Nov that I would want to be open and public with my MC. It just took me a while to get there.
- BFP: 3/10/16 — Baby Girl born 11/20/16
TTC#2 April 20191. I suppose I should start by introducing myself. I've been sort of lurking for the last 6 or so weeks, I figured it was about time I jumped on in! We have been TTC since December following a late November loss with my first pregnancy. All was well until January when my body benched itself, boo! But! It seems that my uterus has decided to return to its somewhat more cooperative state. (Long story short I basically bled for 6 weeks straight, if I wasn't bleeding I was spotting, NOT FUN. I had a faint BFP on a FRER on Dec 31, but then began bleeding days later and we actually have no answers for what that was). It took us 15 months to conceive last time, I am cautiously optimistic that it will happen sooner this time.
2. Currently nearing the end of the TWW. The suspense is killing me.
3. Rant/Rave. Not a lot to rant about today, just impatiently waiting to find out if this month is the BFP or not. Should find out by Friday
4. GTKY. DH and I were supposed to go to Jamacia again this winter, but unfortunately he got laid off, which means no vacay or even weekend getaway for us anytime soon. Looks like it's stay-cations for now.
Me: 26 DH: 28
TTC #1 since 06/2014
BFP #1 09/23/15. MMC discovered 11/24/2015
BFP #2 08/24/16 EDD 05/08/17
@jenmlangtake2 Ugh. I'm sorry - I'm sure that's not the birthday present you were wanting to get.
@zrain That's a wonderful tattoo. I'm trying to pick one out but I haven't had anything just strike me as right, but I love your choice!
@m6agua I'm sorry for awful PMS - it really is the worst.
@babyroper16 I am right there with you - I'll be testing on Saturday! FX for us this cycle!
Ahh, as for Anne of Green Gables: Let me tell you how serendipitous that is. I am a redhead who was entirely obsessed with the stories as a child. I did my hair like her, I hoped for puffy sleeves like her, I had deep-seated shame about my red hair like her. We visited Canvendish in PEI when I was about ten. My middle name is Anne, which was such a source of pride for me. And right now, as we speak, my husband is reading the book and delightfully recounting it, chapter by chapter to me. He just tried to convince me we should re-use Anne as a name, if we're so lucky to have a daughter (I vetoed; It's already my name!!).
TTC 09/15
*TW Loss mentioned*
BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16
MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3
TTCAL 3/2016
Acupuncture 11/16
Dx December 2016: unexplained
January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI =
BFP #2 01/30/17 Please be a sticky baby!
EDD: 10/15/17 Measuring ahead! 10/12/17
Ambrose born on his due date!
TTC 09/15
*TW Loss mentioned*
BFP 12/15/15 EDD: 08/26/16
MMC discovered 1/25/16 at 9 +3
TTCAL 3/2016
Acupuncture 11/16
Dx December 2016: unexplained
January 2017: 50 mg Clomid + TI =
BFP #2 01/30/17 Please be a sticky baby!
EDD: 10/15/17 Measuring ahead! 10/12/17
Ambrose born on his due date!
Me: 33 & DH: 33
Married: 07/2006
TTC: 10/2015
BFP #1: 11/2015, MC 12/2015 (7 weeks)
BFP #2: 06/2016, EDD 2/15/2017
PEI is on my bucket list too.
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Me: 40 DH: 39
Married 12.19.13
BFP #1 1/14, MC 2/14 (6wks)
BFP #2 1/15, MMC/D&C 3/15 (12wks)
BFP #3 6/15, MC 8/15 (9wks)
BFP #4 4/16, MC 4/16 (5wks)
BFP #5 7/16, MMC 8/16 (10 wks)
BFP #6 3/4 , EDD 11/9/17
DD born 7.27.2014
BFP 09.2015 - m/c 10.21.2015
Edit: what happened to my gif
- BFP: 3/10/16 — Baby Girl born 11/20/16
TTC#2 April 2019Me: 33 & DH: 33
Married: 07/2006
TTC: 10/2015
BFP #1: 11/2015, MC 12/2015 (7 weeks)
BFP #2: 06/2016, EDD 2/15/2017
3. I'm feeling anxious about trying again and am irritated with myself for being caught up in my head, worrying about if it'll happen this month, if it'll stick this time, etc. We haven't had sex since before Christmas (poor DH) and I really just need to get my sh*t together and get to it. We've been together for 13 years so I'm not sure why I'm suddenly feeling awkward about it. It is a relief to see many of you with similar thoughts/feelings.
4. I'm hoping to travel to Juneau for a few days in March to spend time with a friend. I'm so ready to get away from the interior (Fairbanks) and see some mountains and ocean!
m6agua I came to the realization that there's only a few cycles left for 2016 a few days ago as well. I wish I hadn't realized that because now it feels like extra stress and pressure.
MC #1: D&C Oct 23, 2015 (7.5 weeks)
MC #2: July 1, 2016 (5.5 weeks)
MC #3: October 17, 2016 (CP)
RE #1: RPL testing November 2016-January 2017
MC #4: Feb. 28, 2017 (CP)
RE #2: Additional RPL testing March-November 2017
MC #5: January 2019 (6.5 weeks)
RE #3: More testing 2023.
Egg Retrieval Sept/Oct 2023, 2 good embryos after PGT-A testing.
Surgery for endometriosis January 2024
Lupron Depo March 2024. Benched 3 months.
FET #1: June 3, 2024 (failed)
Lupron Depo June 2024. Benched 3 months again before next FET.
FET #2: September 2024 (failed)
FET #3: December 2024 (failed)
#BitterHagPartyOf1
As far as now, I do wonder about progesterone because of my short LP and fertile CM during my luteal phase. I have my yearly today, so I'm going to ask about it. Like @MissPrint1219 said though progesterone, from my understanding, is a "chicken or the egg" thing. Some say supplementation after ovulation is pointless because low progesterone can be the result of a low quality egg that would not produce a viable pregnancy anyways. So sometimes the "treatment" is addressing ovulation itself increasing egg quality. Or supplementing with progesterone after getting a BFP. Regardless I will ask after my next BFP for a progesterone check.
DD born 7.27.2014
BFP 09.2015 - m/c 10.21.2015