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May 2016 Moms
MsIan
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Any vegetarians/vegans craving meat???
MsIan
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I would do just about anything for a steak right now. Anyone else craving meat? Have you indulged? Did you get sick? I'm just worried about getting sick.
Re: Any vegetarians/vegans craving meat???
No illness. I was vegan for 13 years, total veg for 4, eating fish for 3, and now, I guess, poultry...
Married: Oct 20, 2013
BFP 1: Aug 31, 2015
EDD 1: May 12, 2016
DD1 Emma born May 12, 2016
An Honest Account of New Motherhood (with Postpartum Anxiety, Depression, and OCD)
BFP 2: October 07, 2019
EDD 2: June 20, 2020
Meat increases insulin levels, is packed full of cholesterol and hormones, and all animal products are either restricted in pregnancy or not recommended by the American heart association. I've stayed faithfully vegan my whole pregnancy. If my body is craving something, I figure out why and satiate the need with fruits, veggies, grains, nuts, or legumes. Furthermore my midwife was delighted I was vegan cuz it meant I was focused on getting healthy foods.
If you're veg or vegan remember you're doing it for a REASON. Don't give up your values now.
Seriously, we are all veg for a reason, but having not experienced the cravings that other women are describing, it's kind of shit to come here and make them feel bad about it.
I'm vegan/veg for anti-corporate and environmental reasons. Hence the broadening of my diet when I moved out to the country (lots of local farmers and pet chickens and cows). And the fish (again, locally farmed) was a concession to DH, because I'm not going to argue if he's doing the cooking. But I recognize that if I wanted to be a better environmentalist I would not be having children, since humans are the single biggest threat to our planet. But here I am. Because you have to balance that shit or off yourself.
Perfect commitment to any cause is impossible, and it's extremists who shame people for their slightest missteps who make all activists look bad and demotivate people from joining us.
I have a dozen formerly vegan friends who gave up because they got criticized for doing it poorly: so now, rather than being vegans who eat honey once in a while or ghee when they travel to India, they are full-fledged meat eaters who hate vegans and think we are all Food-Nazis.
/rant over
But I also wouldn't judge if a vegetarian told me that she had meat once or so during pregnancy. We try to do the right thing on 365 days a year, so we already do make a difference. One day of cheating shouldn't be such a big deal if it's organic free range meat.
And eating meat when you've got a pregnancy craving is like skipping church when your mom's just been admitted to the hospital. Even extremists should recognize it as a pass.
I no longer consider myself vegan (though when I move away from the country I'll probably get back on that train if I can't find local, animal-friendly eggs and dairy), but I consider myself to be a vegetarian who eats fish when my husband cooks it and poultry when the baby wants it.
I've been a good vegan/vegetarian footsoldier since 1996 (including 13 years of strict veganism), so I have more of an issue with the folks who come on here having never experienced a pregnancy craving for meat and criticize others for giving into their cravings than I do with the non-vegetarians JoMunson takes issue with who come here to talk about their cravings and how those things they never eat affect their bodies.
OP wanted to know what would happen if she gave in to her cravings, and people have the audacity to come on here and say that she'd lose her moral compass (even when they admit they haven't had those same cravings), or to brag that they haven't had those cravings. It's the worst kind of shortsighted and unsympathetic arrogance.
/rant
And eating meat when you've got a pregnancy craving is like skipping church when your mom's just been admitted to the hospital. Even extremists should recognize it as a pass.
I no longer consider myself vegan (though when I move away from the country I'll probably get back on that train if I can't find local, animal-friendly eggs and dairy), but I consider myself to be a vegetarian who eats fish when my husband cooks it and poultry when the baby wants it.
I've been a good vegan/vegetarian footsoldier since 1996 (including 13 years of strict veganism), so I have more of an issue with the folks who come on here having never experienced a pregnancy craving for meat and criticize others for giving into their cravings than I do with the non-vegetarians JoMunson takes issue with who come here to talk about their cravings and how those things they never eat affect their bodies.
OP wanted to know what would happen if she gave in to her cravings, and people have the audacity to come on here and say that she'd lose her moral compass (even when they admit they haven't had those same cravings), or to brag that they haven't had those cravings. It's the worst kind of shortsighted and unsympathetic arrogance.
/rant
Well you can rant all day if you like:-) won't change my mind.
How do you know your baby wants poultry ? Lol!
And I still say you're not a vegetarian if you eat meat. vegetarian means you don't eat meat by definition. Poultry is no vegetable btw.
And going to church has nothing to do with this whatsoever. ;-)
How do you know your baby wants poultry ? Lol!
And I still say you're not a vegetarian if you eat meat. vegetarian means you don't eat meat by definition. Poultry is no vegetable btw.
And going to church has nothing to do with this whatsoever. ;-)
-----qbf-----
It's a good thing it's your opinion and doesn't make a difference. If @dshannah thinks it's okay to give into a meat craving every once in awhile then that's her prerogative.
I don't have an opinion either way but the judging is a little uncalled for. Just because you feel like you're on some moral high ground because you haven't had any meat doesn't take away from @dshannah's journey. I also don't recall her asking for your opinion.
And the excessive smiley faces are annoying.
There's LOADS of different types of veg and vegans out there- ethical, environmental, health, Paris vegans, vegan till 4, vegan till 6. The list is endless because your choice of what to eat and when to eat it is endless.
The end of the story is, you can do whatever you want. You can eat meat or not or something in between and no one will hate you (least of all me- I don't even know you!). I just wanted to remind people that they had reasons for making their choices and to stick with those convictions!
Seems like most are vegan vegetarian are not for animal rights reasons
And that's totally fine if you have chosen to eat meat all the more power to you
But you are NO longer a vegan
Don't say you are when you are not
You most certainly have lost your "veg cred" and anyone who says otherwise is probably the same person who says things like
"Just pick the chicken off the salad don't be a baby about it "
They simply don't understand and have no understanding of it and why you loose your credibility and why picking off the chicken isn't acceptable
You are than someone who eats a mostly plant based diet
And yes the semantics of it matter
Choosing whether or not you want to eat meat now ,is a personal choice I have no opinion on that not can I tell you what to choose
But I find it unlikely that anyone who has chosen to eat meat or give into cravings was ever someone who truly ate 100% vegan diet and was passionate about animal rights
I couldn't even tell you what meat tastes like anymore or the texture
I can't remember therefore i don't have cravings because my body can't physically remember what it was
It's like craving something you never ate
I could understand if said veg person was a newly transitioned one
That's my opinion I'm sure I'll get flamed I don't care
All this ranting and raving about whether or not you are a true vegan/vegetarian if you cave and have meat is pathetic and unhelpful.
Then I'll take you seriously.
That better be vegan popcorn....
Did it stay that way? Idk... Just wanted to remind everyone we are here to be supportive.
And I almost put a smiley, but refrained.
Edited: spelling