I haven't done Tylenol yet, but the babes are hella fussy and seem to calm down (relatively) only when they are gnawing on my finger or something like it.
The doctor said we could do Tylenol. Does it help much? I think I'm ready to try it.
ETA--I see it doesn't help @klkonwi much. Anyone else have luck with it?
@423ang it helps my LO. we wouldn't have made it through today without it. he was inconsolable and within a half hour, he was his giggly self again. and then it wore off after 4 hours, and the cycle repeated. he got three doses today. normally one or two doses is enough.
^^^^ I bet we are at 18 now...... A month ago he was 16 and 2.2 lb I bet that's why it's not working for us. Good call. I just went by his last weight I knew of. As a nurse I should of thought to go up to work and weigh him...... Mom fail.
@klkonwi I was recommended this product called camilia by boiron (spelling?) and its freaking AH-mazing! It's homeopathic (which I don't normally buy into) but when my normally very happy baby complains I know something is up so I slip her a bit of this and it calms her right down! It works better than Tylenol for my LO
Is anyone's LO still waking every 1-2 hours? I have an end of the month baby so we're approaching 5 months old next week. I guess I'm debating whether this is still the 4 month sleep regression and I should wait it out or if we ought to do some formal sleep training. I was hoping he'd figure this sleep thing out on his own without involving any tears but I can't keep going on this level of sleep. Mama's gotta work full time, baby.
@caitlincunn I hear ya. It's a 3 year old for me. And if it isn't one of the kids, then the dog needs to go out. Or last night, the cat was trying to open the door, which I thought was DS. Nope, it was the damn cat wanting to play at 2 am. They are all conspiring against us.
^^ hahah! No pets for us right now so At least it's only the kids.. She had 3 bad dreams last night! Not sure if that's True but whatever. She will wake us up if she has to pee. She's been better about that because I told her that there's no reason to wake us up because she doesn't need help.. One night she woke us up because she was thirsty! She has a water bottle in the fridge! I was too tired to argue with her the third time so she climbed into our bed and I just left her. Then I couldnt sleep because she was in the middle of the bed.
Is anyone's LO still waking every 1-2 hours? I have an end of the month baby so we're approaching 5 months old next week. I guess I'm debating whether this is still the 4 month sleep regression and I should wait it out or if we ought to do some formal sleep training. I was hoping he'd figure this sleep thing out on his own without involving any tears but I can't keep going on this level of sleep. Mama's gotta work full time, baby.
You are not alone. She is 5 months today, and I don't think it's a regression either. She is just a completely awful nighttime sleeper. I am at the end of my rope, to be honest. We're traveling next week, and I expect it to be miserable, then we'll try sleep training again when I get back. We will probably fail, since she already screams for hours while I hold her so I don't see why she'd do any better alone in her crib.
@caitlincunn No, that only worked for a couple of nights. She's now in the Merlin, which also only helped for a couple of nights, but she's got to sleep in something. She's at the point where the only thing that gets her to sleep is the breast, and that only keeps her asleep for 10-90 minutes. So either I'm nursing her all night or holding her trying to get her to sleep any other way while she screams at me.
@caitlincunn No, that only worked for a couple of nights. She's now in the Merlin, which also only helped for a couple of nights, but she's got to sleep in something. She's at the point where the only thing that gets her to sleep is the breast, and that only keeps her asleep for 10-90 minutes. So either I'm nursing her all night or holding her trying to get her to sleep any other way while she screams at me.
Sounds like we're in exactly the same boat. I guess the plan is sleep training over thanksgiving break. Hopefully we see progress:(
@ChardeeMacDennis I hope so too! My LO still isn't a great sleeper. If we're lucky he only wakes up at 2:00 & 4:30. Most nights he falls asleep around 7 but wakes up every hour screaming until around 11:30ish. Not sure why. We're starting to sleep train though because I'm over it!
Good luck, @slynnn768. I hope it works fast for you! The worst part is I don't even want to sleep train her. I am 100% okay with my 5 month old needing rocking or nursing or a pacifier to get to sleep but it's like nothing actually works. If I nursed her every time she wanted it last night it would have been 12 times, easy.
And, while I'm complaining I'll just mention that I have screwed up eyes and double vision that is seriously exacerbated by fatigue. I have special glasses but they can only do so much and I'm so sleep deprived that my eye muscles are constantly struggling to focus which wears them out and gives me a perpetual headache and occasional nausea. And I have a cold.
Is anyone's LO still waking every 1-2 hours? I have an end of the month baby so we're approaching 5 months old next week. I guess I'm debating whether this is still the 4 month sleep regression and I should wait it out or if we ought to do some formal sleep training. I was hoping he'd figure this sleep thing out on his own without involving any tears but I can't keep going on this level of sleep. Mama's gotta work full time, baby.
My kid did this at that age. He's never been a good sleeper. He's 5.5 months now and sleeping 2-5 hour chunks (more 2 than 5, definitely). I am not sleep training but I can definitely say his sleep is slooooowwwlllllyyyy getting better.
I'm going to check Ferber's book out of the library tomorrow though. We shall see.
Is anyone's LO still waking every 1-2 hours? I have an end of the month baby so we're approaching 5 months old next week. I guess I'm debating whether this is still the 4 month sleep regression and I should wait it out or if we ought to do some formal sleep training. I was hoping he'd figure this sleep thing out on his own without involving any tears but I can't keep going on this level of sleep. Mama's gotta work full time, baby.
My kid did this at that age. He's never been a good sleeper. He's 5.5 months now and sleeping 2-5 hour chunks (more 2 than 5, definitely). I am not sleep training but I can definitely say his sleep is slooooowwwlllllyyyy getting better.
I'm going to check Ferber's book out of the library tomorrow though. We shall see.
@ChardeeMacDennis We were in a similar situation. Once we gave him the time and space to fall asleep on his own through sleep training, he goes to sleep with very little crying every night now. He had been waking up before sometimes as much as every 30 minutes all night. We do an. 11pm dream feed and another 3am feed and he goes right back to sleep after both. I know you don't like the idea of sleep training but if you decide to do it, we used the book "sleep easy solutions". I would highly recommend.
The past two nights, instead of falling asleep on me while nursing, LO has nursed, pulled off, smiled at me and pet my face for a few minutes, and then wriggled around rubbing her eyes until I put her into her crib wide awake. As soon as I put her down she sticks her thumb in her mouth, rolls to her belly, and goes to sleep.
I know this doesn't suck really, but it is bittersweet! She's cutting out most of my snuggle time now. Where did my snuggly baby go?? At least it looks like maybe formal sleep training won't be necessary (fingers crossed).
If we could end the 430 am feed for good, we'd really be in business.
My LO is far from STTN. It was pretty bad after our trip to visit the parents last week. LO and I co slept so I had to break her of that again when we got home. She was up 7 times the first night, then six the next. Finally I just turned the monitor to the lowest volume and only woke up 3 times the next when she was crying. She often needs to burp in the www morning hours, but then requires the boob to go back down. Rinse and repeat. I am working up the courage to do the sleep training without feeding in the MOTN, but honestly I don't have the strength to do it yet. We'll get there.
Good luck @ChardeeMacDennis. It sounds like you are in the thick of it. Hoping LO finds her rhythm soon.
So my kid just fell asleep peacefully in his crib without the usual 40 minute crying marathon. Please let this be a good night with no screaming of tears.
For the past few days, my kid doesn't want to read at all before bed. She is so ready for bed I just lay her down and she's out. Sort of makes me sad we don't get that extra 5 minutes to read and rock when I'm working all day! Guess have to take the good with the bad.
Midnight and 4 am are not good times to practice your raspberry blowing, and while I appreciate the very vocal invitation to join, I'd rather be sleeping.
You're cute though.
Sincerely, Your exhausted mom.
Eta: grammar fix, because who's grammar is good at 4am?
@ChardeeMacDennis We were in a similar situation. Once we gave him the time and space to fall asleep on his own through sleep training, he goes to sleep with very little crying every night now. He had been waking up before sometimes as much as every 30 minutes all night. We do an. 11pm dream feed and another 3am feed and he goes right back to sleep after both. I know you don't like the idea of sleep training but if you decide to do it, we used the book "sleep easy solutions". I would highly recommend.
I'm definitely not against sleep training in general, and we've done it with our other kids. I wish I didn't have to do it so soon, but last night I had to nurse her 7 times, give her the pacifier 3 times, and she was still up for the day by 6. I do like the idea of dream feeds, though, since she is used to eating so much at night. Thanks for the book rec, too.
@mellymar how's your insomnia? I struggle with that too & wouldn't you know the 2 nights this week LO slept well (only waking twice) were the same 2 nights I lay in bed awake for a couple of hours in the middle of the night. So frustrating because I'm tired all day but at night my mind won't shut down enough to let me fall back asleep easily.
Anyone who's done Ferber find that going to sooth LO actually makes them cry harder, instead of calming them down?
Yes. For us, this was basically the turning point. I had DH go instead of me. After we knew DS was fed, dry, warm and generally OK, we let him go nuclear one night. From there on, each night was better.
@mellymar how's your insomnia? I struggle with that too & wouldn't you know the 2 nights this week LO slept well (only waking twice) were the same 2 nights I lay in bed awake for a couple of hours in the middle of the night. So frustrating because I'm tired all day but at night my mind won't shut down enough to let me fall back asleep easily.
Not any better, not any worse. Thanks for asking! Instead of staying for hours in the middle of the night, I am exhausted and ready for bed so early, like 6 or 7, but still have to take care of LO and put him to bed. Then I have to clean up LOs bottles and eat. Even if I do ONLY that, its 9pm (and that's eating a crap microwave dinner. A for real, healthy meal takes longer) before I can go to bed. And then I lay there for 2-3, even 4 hours, exhausted but unable to sleep. And once I fall asleep, I keep waking up over and over. Its worse when my husband is not home. I think my mind is afraid to sleep because it knows that I'm the only thing that can save LO if there is a fire or something bad happens.
I really miss being able to take my benadryl. At least with that, once I fell asleep I tended to stay that way (tho it still took me hours to fall asleep)
So, this child of mine! I am down visiting my family and for the first two days a gf was down with me. LO was gold and STTN all 2 nights she was down. She leaves and LO is up 3 or 4x a night needing to be nursed back to sleep. DH arrived yesterday and i was excited to have a little reprieve...well LO STTN again. Turns out she's a little show off and will only party at night with me!
2 am DS up and needed to be tucked in. 3 am LO needed to be fed. 4 am dog needs to go outside. 5 am cats knock over plant and pukes up leaves 6 am DS up. "I'm awake!!" No shit. 7 am Coffee. More coffee.
Wake ups: 9:30, 10:30, 11:30, 12:30, 2:30, 4:30, and 6. What the actual fuck? DH went to bed at 10 and up at 3 to plow snow. He's exhausted and taking a nap. Exhaustion is my new norm. LO just woke up from a 2 hour nap. I pray DS will take a nap with me later.
This is not my LOs first cold but it is the first to affect her sleep so much. She won't sleep for more than a half hour at a time. Wish I could do more for her, poor baby. This is also coinciding with the beginning of a leap so there's that too.
I was explaining to my family how exhaustion is just a part of our lives now. Like, we've accepted it. It's here to stay. "Stay positive" they say.... Haha. No.
You get up 10 times a night to rock a 19 pound baby and then try to be positive.
Re: Nighttime still sucks........
The doctor said we could do Tylenol. Does it help much? I think I'm ready to try it.
ETA--I see it doesn't help @klkonwi much. Anyone else have luck with it?
I bet that's why it's not working for us. Good call. I just went by his last weight I knew of. As a nurse I should of thought to go up to work and weigh him...... Mom fail.
Thank you I will have to have DH order that on amazon ASAP!
Thanks, @caitlincunn!
That's funny, @amccoy129, the first part of the night is always her best stretch, she usually sleeps from 7-10:30 before the horror really begins.
There. I feel better.
I'm going to check Ferber's book out of the library tomorrow though. We shall see.
I always forget about the library.
I know this doesn't suck really, but it is bittersweet! She's cutting out most of my snuggle time now. Where did my snuggly baby go?? At least it looks like maybe formal sleep training won't be necessary (fingers crossed).
If we could end the 430 am feed for good, we'd really be in business.
Good luck @ChardeeMacDennis. It sounds like you are in the thick of it. Hoping LO finds her rhythm soon.
Midnight and 4 am are not good times to practice your raspberry blowing, and while I appreciate the very vocal invitation to join, I'd rather be sleeping.
You're cute though.
Sincerely,
Your exhausted mom.
Eta: grammar fix, because who's grammar is good at 4am?
I really miss being able to take my benadryl. At least with that, once I fell asleep I tended to stay that way (tho it still took me hours to fall asleep)
3 am LO needed to be fed.
4 am dog needs to go outside.
5 am cats knock over plant and pukes up leaves
6 am DS up. "I'm awake!!" No shit.
7 am Coffee. More coffee.
You get up 10 times a night to rock a 19 pound baby and then try to be positive.
Night time is serious torture.