Doctor told me she'd guess it's a girl

patti654 · October 2015

Today at my appointment my doctor told me she'd guess baby is a girl. She admitted she based it on heartbeat(160) both times. We are really hoping for a girl so this got my hopes up... I was assuming that was an old wives tale but after both doctor and then MA told me she'd assume it's a girl too.. I am really anxious for my anatomy scan in two weeks now. Anyone else have doctor guess at sex? I was kinda surprised she even said anything.

ecwk · October 2015

I'm very suspicious of your "doctor". Heart rate does not have any correlation with the baby's sex. That's what my doctor told me.
Also, it sounds like you're anxious about your anatomy scan purely because you want to know if you're having a boy or a girl. Hopefully you go in there and find out first and foremost that your baby is healthy, regardless of what is between the legs.

suteki325 · October 2015

When I was around 12 weeks, my OB (jokingly) told me that she thought it was a girl after I told her I had aversions to eating meat since becoming pregnant. I'm having a boy. I honestly think those old wives tales, the heartbeat theory included, are all just made up. You only have two more weeks to go! You'll know here before too long.

patti654 · October 2015

Acwk, Obviously healthy baby is first concern. Not what my question was about. My doctor's credentials are good, no need to put doctor in parentheses.

ecwk · October 2015

patti654 said:
Acwk, Obviously healthy baby is first concern. Not what my question was about. My doctor's credentials are good, no need to put doctor in parentheses.

When you say "I'm really anxious for my anatomy scan now" after posting about the baby's sex it sounds like that's the reason you're concerned, whether that's what you meant or not.
Again, I'd be side eyeing the crap out of my doctor if she insinuated to me that my baby is a girl based on the heart rate. I'd definitely question her credentials. That's why I put doctor in "quotation marks."

Edited for double word

suchaglencoco · October 2015

patti654 said:
Acwk, Obviously healthy baby is first concern. Not what my question was about. My doctor's credentials are good, no need to put doctor in parentheses.

I agree with @ecwk. I had multiple doctors, specialists and u/s techs tell me not to base any sex thoughts on heart rates. I have one of each, both heart rates were really high and are normally around 160. Also, DS heart beats are mainly higher than DD.
Just don't want you to get your hopes up and have "gender" disappointment if you are having a healthy little man.

cMichelle0423 · October 2015

I've literally had everyone from my mom to my midwives tell me they think we're having a girl. Turns out we're expecting our 3rd boy. I'll add all 3 of my boys had heart rates that pointed towards a girl based on the old wives tale.

sarahufl · October 2015

I asked my doctor about old wives tales. We aren't finding out and I thought it would be fun to test them out and see what we end up having (all entirely just for fun, of course). She said she hates when people get their hopes up based on stuff like heart rate, then get all upset at the anatomy scans (or birth) and that there is literally no correlation.

I would be very skeptical of any medical professional who played into that stuff at all. It is really inappropriate.

PrimRoseMama · October 2015

patti654 said:

Today at my appointment my doctor told me she'd guess baby is a girl. She admitted she based it on heartbeat(160) both times. We are really hoping for a girl so this got my hopes up... I was assuming that was an old wives tale but after both doctor and then MA told me she'd assume it's a girl too.. I am really anxious for my anatomy scan in two weeks now. Anyone else have doctor guess at sex? I was kinda surprised she even said anything.

My kids had identical heart rates. One is a boy and one is a girl. That logic is faulty. Good luck at your A/S.

skc040512 · October 2015

My doctor listened to the HR and said, "It's fast, so sounds like a girl! I've got a good track record. I'm right 50% of the time." Only time you know the sex for certain is at birth, since even US can be misleading.

cataleya82 · October 2015

All three of my kids had heartbeats in the 160s, I have two boys and this baby is a girl.

Samiya64 · October 2015

ecwk said:
I'm very suspicious of your "doctor". Heart rate does not have any correlation with the baby's sex. That's what my doctor told me.
Also, it sounds like you're anxious about your anatomy scan purely because you want to know if you're having a boy or a girl. Hopefully you go in there and find out first and foremost that your baby is healthy, regardless of what is between the legs.

^^^^This and if I were you I'd ask this "doctor" to put these "guesses" in writing and then run it by a lawyer, curosity sake!! :-?

DrillSergeantCat · October 2015

Samiya64 said:

^^^^This and if I were you I'd ask this "doctor" to put these "guesses" in writing and then run it by a lawyer, curosity sake!! :-?

Why run it by a lawyer?

Samiya64 · October 2015

@DrillSergeantCat cause a medical practitioner is ethically bound not to make unscientific claims while treating their patients, especialy ones which can lead to physical or emotional disappointment. :-??

kynbar5 · October 2015

Samiya64 said:
@DrillSergeantCat cause a medical practitioner is ethically bound not to make unscientific claims while treating their patients, especialy ones which can lead to physical or emotional disappointment. :-??

Good grief. I seriously think that's a bit much.

DrillSergeantCat · October 2015

Samiya64 said:

@DrillSergeantCat cause a medical practitioner is ethically bound not to make unscientific claims while treating their patients, especialy ones which can lead to physical or emotional disappointment. :-??

And there's another reason Obstetrician's medical malpractice insurance is skyrocketing.

kynbar5 · October 2015

I'd seriously hate to be a doctor simply because of patients like that. I really hope this chick never goes to a restaurant and spills a hot beverage on herself!

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Samiya64 · October 2015

kynbar5 said:

Samiya64 said:
@DrillSergeantCat cause a medical practitioner is ethically bound not to make unscientific claims while treating their patients, especialy ones which can lead to physical or emotional disappointment. :-??
Good grief. I seriously think that's a bit much.

DrillSergeantCat said:

Samiya64 said:

@DrillSergeantCat cause a medical practitioner is ethically bound not to make unscientific claims while treating their patients, especialy ones which can lead to physical or emotional disappointment. :-??

And there's another reason Obstetrician's medical malpractice insurance is skyrocketing.

And to think of it my father is a doctor!!!

Oh but wait, i am lawyer....soooo maybe pardon my insolence!! 8->

kynbar5 · October 2015

Samiya64 said:

kynbar5 said:

Samiya64 said:
@DrillSergeantCat cause a medical practitioner is ethically bound not to make unscientific claims while treating their patients, especialy ones which can lead to physical or emotional disappointment. :-??
Good grief. I seriously think that's a bit much.

DrillSergeantCat said:

Samiya64 said:

@DrillSergeantCat cause a medical practitioner is ethically bound not to make unscientific claims while treating their patients, especialy ones which can lead to physical or emotional disappointment. :-??

And there's another reason Obstetrician's medical malpractice insurance is skyrocketing.

And to think of it my father is a doctor!!!

Oh but wait, i am lawyer....soooo maybe pardon my insolence!! 8->

DustyMelons · October 2015

Well that took a turn.

OP, my OB also guessed at my baby's sex, though she didn't say she was necessarily basing it off heart rate. She guessed girl and I had a boy. But my OB also made a joke as mentioned above, about being right 50% of the time.

It's just a guess

allisonmunson94 · October 2015

Well my little one's HR was 147 at 6 weeks, 180 at 10 weeks, and 167 at 13.5 weeks, and I'm having a boy. I was convinced it was a girl because of how sick I've been and the whole heart rate thing, but apparently that is not always true!

Monkeybutt80 · October 2015

Op, you may have taken your doctor's joke/ comment too seriously due to your desire for a girl. Before we found out during our genetic testing, my doctor and I joked about how we think it's a girl because my symptoms were the opposite of my first pregnancy with a boy. But we both knew it was just that, a guess/ joke with a 50% chance of being correct.

Also, please don't take pp's advice about a legal claim. There's no damage even if your dr's guess was wrong, and you'd be wasting everyone's time and resources if you try to bring a suit or even a med board complaint.

patti654 · October 2015

I would never think of sueing someone based on that. Guess I'm just not that into ruining someone's livelihood because of a simple comment they made. Yes, I do think it's a little weird that she said anything, but won't be suing if baby is a boy.

Samiya64 · October 2015

patti654 said:
I would never think of sueing someone based on that. Guess I'm just not that into ruining someone's livelihood because of a simple comment they made. Yes, I do think it's a little weird that she said anything, but won't be suing if baby is a boy.

Ohkkk so here it is on a serious note, since the previous comment was on a lighter note. Where I am from we dont have compulsory medical insurance and infact even if there is a medical insurance coverage that we opt for by choice, its awfully difficult to bring a claim about against the insurance company without having established very very substantial negligence on the part of the defaulting medical pratitioner. And even if we do end up establishing it, the award gets locked up in litigation between the insurance company and the medical practitioner as to who is liable pay the award!!

And like i said, my father is a doctor and we know how iron clad medical practitioners are in our country against any suits, its a running joke in our family from me to him that, "put it in writing"!!! Its a reference to how unsuccessful and frustrating any legal claims can be here against medical negligence.

But now i realise that the same comment was made before the wrong audience. I guess you have absolutely different reference points when it comes to this.

kynbar5 · October 2015

Samiya64 said:

patti654 said:
I would never think of sueing someone based on that. Guess I'm just not that into ruining someone's livelihood because of a simple comment they made. Yes, I do think it's a little weird that she said anything, but won't be suing if baby is a boy.
Ohkkk so here it is on a serious note, since the previous comment was on a lighter note. Where I am from we dont have compulsory medical insurance and infact even if there is a medical insurance coverage that we opt for by choice, its awfully difficult to bring a claim about against the insurance company without having established very very substantial negligence on the part of the defaulting medical pratitioner. And even if we do end up establishing it, the award gets locked up in litigation between the insurance company and the medical practitioner as to who is liable pay the award!!

And like i said, my father is a doctor and we know how iron clad medical practitioners are in our country against any suits, its a running joke in our family from me to him that, "put it in writing"!!! Its a reference to how unsuccessful and frustrating any legal claims can be here against medical negligence.

But now i realise that the same comment was made before the wrong audience. I guess you have absolutely different reference points when it comes to this.

I seriously think you just wasted your breath and I just lost about 45 seconds of my life reading that, that I cannot get back now. No audience of pregnant women are going to be the "right" audience when it comes to going to a lawyer because a doctor made a funny comment that has no basis. Geeze. Just stop. Please.

KaLikeAWind · November 2015

OP, I was Team Green, and I had a lot of fun guessing at the sex of my baby. My Dr knew this, and she is a fun lady so she would answer when I asked her what her guess was. There were two other drs at the practice (I saw the other 2 drs 2 or 3 times each) and each of them had a different comfort zone with regards to this. One wouldn't answer me at all (maybe he was afraid of being sued, good grief) and the other said she didn't think about stuff like that, so she didn't know.

But never forget that using the heart rate or any other OWT is truly just a guess. Your Dr might be like mine, and is a fun person who likes to be friendly with their patients. I don't think it made my Dr less of a Dr or felt that she didn't know medicine because she was guessing along with me. She was a really smart lady, but she was also really fun and was excited to see what flavor I got. I would never have held her to her word about the sex of baby, because even with the anatomy scan there can be mistakes. But did we have fun guessing at the sex every month? We sure did.

Congrats on your baby. Enjoy your anatomy scan, even without the finding out the sex part, its pretty cool!

Samiya64 · November 2015

kynbar5 said:

Samiya64 said:

patti654 said:
I would never think of sueing someone based on that. Guess I'm just not that into ruining someone's livelihood because of a simple comment they made. Yes, I do think it's a little weird that she said anything, but won't be suing if baby is a boy.
Ohkkk so here it is on a serious note, since the previous comment was on a lighter note. Where I am from we dont have compulsory medical insurance and infact even if there is a medical insurance coverage that we opt for by choice, its awfully difficult to bring a claim about against the insurance company without having established very very substantial negligence on the part of the defaulting medical pratitioner. And even if we do end up establishing it, the award gets locked up in litigation between the insurance company and the medical practitioner as to who is liable pay the award!!

And like i said, my father is a doctor and we know how iron clad medical practitioners are in our country against any suits, its a running joke in our family from me to him that, "put it in writing"!!! Its a reference to how unsuccessful and frustrating any legal claims can be here against medical negligence.

But now i realise that the same comment was made before the wrong audience. I guess you have absolutely different reference points when it comes to this.
I seriously think you just wasted your breath and I just lost about 45 seconds of my life reading that, that I cannot get back now. No audience of pregnant women are going to be the "right" audience when it comes to going to a lawyer because a doctor made a funny comment that has no basis. Geeze. Just stop. Please.

You are absolutely right. I am wasting my breath with "you" in particular. Clearly you are not even being perceptive to a concept alien to you. Good luck with world awareness.

CharminglySouthern · November 2015

Samiya64 said:

kynbar5 said:

Samiya64 said:

patti654 said:
I would never think of sueing someone based on that. Guess I'm just not that into ruining someone's livelihood because of a simple comment they made. Yes, I do think it's a little weird that she said anything, but won't be suing if baby is a boy.
Ohkkk so here it is on a serious note, since the previous comment was on a lighter note. Where I am from we dont have compulsory medical insurance and infact even if there is a medical insurance coverage that we opt for by choice, its awfully difficult to bring a claim about against the insurance company without having established very very substantial negligence on the part of the defaulting medical pratitioner. And even if we do end up establishing it, the award gets locked up in litigation between the insurance company and the medical practitioner as to who is liable pay the award!!

And like i said, my father is a doctor and we know how iron clad medical practitioners are in our country against any suits, its a running joke in our family from me to him that, "put it in writing"!!! Its a reference to how unsuccessful and frustrating any legal claims can be here against medical negligence.

But now i realise that the same comment was made before the wrong audience. I guess you have absolutely different reference points when it comes to this.
I seriously think you just wasted your breath and I just lost about 45 seconds of my life reading that, that I cannot get back now. No audience of pregnant women are going to be the "right" audience when it comes to going to a lawyer because a doctor made a funny comment that has no basis. Geeze. Just stop. Please.
You are absolutely right. I am wasting my breath with "you" in particular. Clearly you are not even being perceptive to a concept alien to you. Good luck with world awareness.

No, it was just a really dumb comment. Like, galactically stupid.

Samiya64 · November 2015

@CharminglySouthern and @kynbar5 please do ahead and google " PRE-NATAL DIAGNOSTIC TECHNIQUES ACT, 1994", it governs 1.2 BILLION people of this world and criminalises the faintest suggestion by any medical practitioner of the gender of an unborn child.
Don't ignorantly assume what applies to all pregnant women of this world and just cause you are unaware of it, terming it as "dumb" or "stupid" is foolish.

Its easy to make ignorant and condescending remarks but its not that difficult to educate yourself about something you may not be aware of. Try it!!

Ceridwen77 · November 2015

Samiya64 said:
@CharminglySouthern and @kynbar5 please do ahead and google " PRE-NATAL DIAGNOSTIC TECHNIQUES ACT, 1994", it governs 1.2 BILLION people of this world and criminalises the faintest suggestion by any medical practitioner of the gender of an unborn child.
Don't ignorantly assume what applies to all pregnant women of this world and just cause you are unaware of it, terming it as "dumb" or "stupid" is foolish.

Its easy to make ignorant and condescending remarks but its not that difficult to educate yourself about something you may not be aware of. Try it!!

Are you actually serious? You're referencing an act from India that was implemented mainly to stop female foeticide. This is not even on the same plane as the OPs doctor making a dumb guess as to what her baby's sex is. Time to stop acting like you're super educated when all you're doing is stretching the severity of the original topic to something as serious as aborting a female fetus because it's female. Wow.

CharminglySouthern · November 2015

Ceridwen77 said:

Samiya64 said:
@CharminglySouthern and @kynbar5 please do ahead and google " PRE-NATAL DIAGNOSTIC TECHNIQUES ACT, 1994", it governs 1.2 BILLION people of this world and criminalises the faintest suggestion by any medical practitioner of the gender of an unborn child.
Don't ignorantly assume what applies to all pregnant women of this world and just cause you are unaware of it, terming it as "dumb" or "stupid" is foolish.

Its easy to make ignorant and condescending remarks but its not that difficult to educate yourself about something you may not be aware of. Try it!!
Are you actually serious? You're referencing an act from India that was implemented mainly to stop female foeticide. This is not even on the same plane as the OPs doctor making a dumb guess as to what her baby's sex is. Time to stop acting like you're super educated when all you're doing is stretching the severity of the original topic to something as serious as aborting a female fetus because it's female. Wow.

This. Please stop just stop, unless you enjoy making an ass out of yourself.

I just showed this post to my BIL, an attorney, and he nearly pissed himself laughing at the sheer stupidity that someone should consult a lawyer over this.

StrawberryDuck · November 2015

Well, I think this is the first time i've seen a 'guess my babys sex' post turn into 'sue the motherfucking doctor'.

@samiya64 You sure you're not crazy?

ecwk · November 2015

Samiya64 said:
@CharminglySouthern and @kynbar5 please do ahead and google " PRE-NATAL DIAGNOSTIC TECHNIQUES ACT, 1994", it governs 1.2 BILLION people of this world and criminalises the faintest suggestion by any medical practitioner of the gender of an unborn child.
Don't ignorantly assume what applies to all pregnant women of this world and just cause you are unaware of it, terming it as "dumb" or "stupid" is foolish.

Its easy to make ignorant and condescending remarks but its not that difficult to educate yourself about something you may not be aware of. Try it!!

I thought there was some sort of language barrier or something and that you were genuinely joking the first time you made the comment....now I'm not so sure.
To clarify, you were joking about suing the doctor, right?

lalala2004 · November 2015

@Samiya64 the assumptions work both ways, such as when you assumed people not from India would understand why consulting a lawyer about this would seem the least bit reasonable/a funny joke, or whatever you meant by it.

kynbar5 · November 2015

Samiya64 said:
@CharminglySouthern and @kynbar5 please do ahead and google " PRE-NATAL DIAGNOSTIC TECHNIQUES ACT, 1994", it governs 1.2 BILLION people of this world and criminalises the faintest suggestion by any medical practitioner of the gender of an unborn child.
Don't ignorantly assume what applies to all pregnant women of this world and just cause you are unaware of it, terming it as "dumb" or "stupid" is foolish.

Its easy to make ignorant and condescending remarks but its not that difficult to educate yourself about something you may not be aware of. Try it!!

I do think it's quite hilarious that you continue to feel the need to push this whole "sue the dr" conversation. Seriously lady, just stop. If you really are a lawyer I'm not seeing where you're a very successful one. That or you're one of those "ambulance chasers". "Sue him, sue her, sue the dog for taking a crap in your yard!" I hope you have an absolutely perfect pregnancy, childbirth and your child goes by every rule in the book, along with anyone that ever interacts with you and your child. Bye now! :-h

missemmawoodhouse · November 2015

Legit LOL.

patti654 · November 2015

Or should I say girl...

Samiya64 · November 2015

Ceridwen77 said:

Samiya64 said:
@CharminglySouthern and @kynbar5 please do ahead and google " PRE-NATAL DIAGNOSTIC TECHNIQUES ACT, 1994", it governs 1.2 BILLION people of this world and criminalises the faintest suggestion by any medical practitioner of the gender of an unborn child.
Don't ignorantly assume what applies to all pregnant women of this world and just cause you are unaware of it, terming it as "dumb" or "stupid" is foolish.

Its easy to make ignorant and condescending remarks but its not that difficult to educate yourself about something you may not be aware of. Try it!!
Are you actually serious? You're referencing an act from India that was implemented mainly to stop female foeticide. This is not even on the same plane as the OPs doctor making a dumb guess as to what her baby's sex is. Time to stop acting like you're super educated when all you're doing is stretching the severity of the original topic to something as serious as aborting a female fetus because it's female. Wow.

That is where I am, that is why we are not allowed to determine our unborn child's gender at all and hence my "reference point". And while i clearly stated that this may not be the reference point for here, it however is how the whole pregnancy process is carried out here.
Just because something doesn't apply to you doesn't mean it has no application anywhere else at all either .

@CharminglySouthern its clearly very difficult for you to fathom the different concerns people have and also that different "attorneys" practice different law in different countries.

Samiya64 · November 2015

@Ceridwen77 and if you can realise that its something "serious" you can go ahead and also realise that we suffer serious consequences like not being able to determine the gender of our unborn child at all and having to see only blurred u/s all through out our pregnancies and the doctors choosing to be extremely tight lipped about it. I am not trying to sound "educated" I am trying to put in prespective the experience of millions of women including MYSELF during pregnancy.

But its your choice to not want to hear of something thats not affecting you just cause it sounds unpleasant.

jessjess80 · November 2015

keeping my fingers crossed for you, but its not been proven....

StrawberryDuck · November 2015

@samiya64 let me solve this for you!

patti654 Are you in India where a doctor taking a rough guess of your babys sex make any difference at all to determine whether or not you'd end the pregnancy? Because if not, it doesn't fucking matter, does it @samiya64?

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