November 2015 Moms

Anyone's Doctor not recommend Tdap or flu vaccine?

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Re: Anyone's Doctor not recommend Tdap or flu vaccine?

  • I go to a center where I see 3 diff drs. All 3 mentioned it. 2 of the 3 made it seem like I didn't have a choice. I got the tdap (as there is currently cases in the town next to me). I refused the flu shot bc I had a reaction to it the only time I had it. That was an uncomfortable convo with that particular Dr. She was very aggressive when I refused. My fav Dr made sure to let me know that it was all optional and up to me. Just wanted me to know it was available if I wanted it.
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  • My midwives were very insistent about Tdap, and also highly recommended the flu shot due to baby being born in flu season. The thought of me and/ or baby having the flu was enough to make the decision, but honestly I work in a hospital setting and get one every year anyway.
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  • poupoule said:



    poupoule said:

    She recommended it because I never had it... But my french doctor (in france) is against the flu one.
    So I did the tdap, and I plan to do the homeopathic flu vaccine, not the shot.

    What about the hep b vaccine they do to newborns ? My doctors / pharmacists in france are super shocked they do it to every baby in the US. And I admit I kind of feel the same....

    What is the homeopathic flu vaccine?
    From my understanding (please correct me if I'm wrong), it involves ingesting a small amount of live influenza virus. It's definitely not something I'd EVER consider doing intentionally while not pregnant; I'm shocked that any medical professional would condone a pregnant woman doing it.




    No it is not that :) it is something you take all along the flu season, based from plants. It is more like an immunitary boost. Instead of one shot it lasts four months. Homeopathy is all about plants.

    No, it's not.
    Naturopathy / herbalism / holistic medicine can be plant-based. But that's not what homeopathic medicine is.
  • urby87urby87 member
    edited October 2015
    Elyse1384 said:
    This pregnancy and the last my OB pretty much required it (he would never force either - but VERY strongly encouraged both)
    This is the same stance my office has.  They usually give literature about recommendations at the appointment prior and let you decide whether or not it's something you want to do.  I chose to get both to give my LO as much of an advantage as possible.
  • i was not given the choice for the tdap vaccine, my nurse at an ob appointment walked in and gave me the shot. I decided to get the flu vaccine because i just want to not only protect myself (cause i hate getting sick) but also if it helps give my baby any immunities as well--- i'd hate for her to get sick as an infant. especially since it will be cold and flu season when she gets here.
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  • I got a sheet of paper talking about the TDaP at my first appointment and the nurse said to read over it as my OB would be mentioning it again around week 28. Around week 28 OB said "oh and here's your script for TDaP. Flu shot is here already so get that first, wait two weeks and go back for the TDaP" she didn't ask me if I wanted it (but she did answer any questions I had about it) because as she had stated at an earlier appointment "I'm here to protect you and baby, and that's what I'm going to do"
  • I am all for the tdap, but anyone who does anything to you without your consent is wrong and it can be considered assault.
  • Love this discussion!! Thanks ladies! Good info!
  • Anyone here have to pay out of pocket for the tdap? Doc's office doesn't administer it so they told me to go to any pharmacy and when I got there they told me my insurance wouldn't cover it and I'd have to pay $130 for the shot. I have what is supposedly a great PPO plan with UHC and was surprised by this. I paid it and was going to follow up with insurance co. Wednesday to find out why it wasn't covered. Just thought it was odd.
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  • Anyone here have to pay out of pocket for the tdap? Doc's office doesn't administer it so they told me to go to any pharmacy and when I got there they told me my insurance wouldn't cover it and I'd have to pay $130 for the shot. I have what is supposedly a great PPO plan with UHC and was surprised by this. I paid it and was going to follow up with insurance co. Wednesday to find out why it wasn't covered. Just thought it was odd.
    My insurance wouldn't cover the flu shot if I got it done at a pharmacy, it had something to do with the way it would be charged.  When you say doctor's office, do you mean your OB/ midwife, or do you mean your regular primary care physician?  You should have been able to have the Tdap done at the doctor's office with no/ minimal charge, although obviously that varies greatly depending on your insurance plan.  I have a PPO also, and I believe all of my 'normal' vaccines (Tdap, flu, tetanus, hep, etc) are covered completely.
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  • Anyone here have to pay out of pocket for the tdap? Doc's office doesn't administer it so they told me to go to any pharmacy and when I got there they told me my insurance wouldn't cover it and I'd have to pay $130 for the shot. I have what is supposedly a great PPO plan with UHC and was surprised by this. I paid it and was going to follow up with insurance co. Wednesday to find out why it wasn't covered. Just thought it was odd.

    Yep. My insurance covers it through my medical plan but not my pharmaceutical plan, so if I want it covered I have to get it from a doctor, not a pharmacy. Found this out, of course, after I had gone to various pharmacies around town and gotten denied, and made nearly a dozen phone calls to my insurance and gotten faulty information from them each time. But now I know. My midwife doesn't administer that kind of shots and my primary doctor left the practice, so I'm still on the hunt for someone that'll give it to me. My midwife suggested urgent care, but we don't have one here (midwife is in another city).

    Shouldn't be this hard to get a freaking shot!
  • queenwog said:
    Anyone here have to pay out of pocket for the tdap? Doc's office doesn't administer it so they told me to go to any pharmacy and when I got there they told me my insurance wouldn't cover it and I'd have to pay $130 for the shot. I have what is supposedly a great PPO plan with UHC and was surprised by this. I paid it and was going to follow up with insurance co. Wednesday to find out why it wasn't covered. Just thought it was odd.
    Yep. My insurance covers it through my medical plan but not my pharmaceutical plan, so if I want it covered I have to get it from a doctor, not a pharmacy. Found this out, of course, after I had gone to various pharmacies around town and gotten denied, and made nearly a dozen phone calls to my insurance and gotten faulty information from them each time. But now I know. My midwife doesn't administer that kind of shots and my primary doctor left the practice, so I'm still on the hunt for someone that'll give it to me. My midwife suggested urgent care, but we don't have one here (midwife is in another city). Shouldn't be this hard to get a freaking shot!
    This is so ridiculous to me. It's not like the shot changes based on who is giving it. If the pharmacist is licensed and able to give injections, I see no reason why insurance shouldn't cover it. Oh, the problems with insurance here....

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  • @ColoradoHiker, this was my OBGYN's office. I hadn't even tried to go to my primary care when they said I could just go to a pharmacy. Looks like I will have a battle to get that money reimbursed. Thanks for your input ladies.
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  • Yes, $90 out of pocket per person. I went to an Express Care and was told it's not covered under my insurance at their location. If I had gone to my Primary Dr it would have been covered but I no longer have a Primary so I just paid it. Totally sucks though!!! 
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  • We got them done at Walgreens and insurance covered $25 of it or so. We paid about $40 per person.
  • We have had several pertussis deaths in my area this year so my husband and I, teen daughter, mom and mil all got TDAP shots. I'm in the Bay Area, and a lot of people in the Santa Cruz and Berkeley areas refuse to vaccinate, which is why my doctor believes there has been such an outbreak in this area recently.

    I'm not big on flu shots, but vaccinations that can 100% prevent deadly diseases/viruses, to me those are a different story.
  • urby87urby87 member
    edited October 2015
    abraleesy said:
    We have had several pertussis deaths in my area this year so my husband and I, teen daughter, mom and mil all got TDAP shots. I'm in the Bay Area, and a lot of people in the Santa Cruz and Berkeley areas refuse to vaccinate, which is why my doctor believes there has been such an outbreak in this area recently. I'm not big on flu shots, but vaccinations that can 100% prevent deadly diseases/viruses, to me those are a different story.
    For an infant or a pregnant woman, the flu can be deadly.

  • queenwog said:

    Anyone here have to pay out of pocket for the tdap? Doc's office doesn't administer it so they told me to go to any pharmacy and when I got there they told me my insurance wouldn't cover it and I'd have to pay $130 for the shot. I have what is supposedly a great PPO plan with UHC and was surprised by this. I paid it and was going to follow up with insurance co. Wednesday to find out why it wasn't covered. Just thought it was odd.

    Yep. My insurance covers it through my medical plan but not my pharmaceutical plan, so if I want it covered I have to get it from a doctor, not a pharmacy. Found this out, of course, after I had gone to various pharmacies around town and gotten denied, and made nearly a dozen phone calls to my insurance and gotten faulty information from them each time. But now I know. My midwife doesn't administer that kind of shots and my primary doctor left the practice, so I'm still on the hunt for someone that'll give it to me. My midwife suggested urgent care, but we don't have one here (midwife is in another city).

    Shouldn't be this hard to get a freaking shot!

    This is so ridiculous to me. It's not like the shot changes based on who is giving it. If the pharmacist is licensed and able to give injections, I see no reason why insurance shouldn't cover it. Oh, the problems with insurance here....

    Yup. I finally thought I'd found a place to get it today and after getting the shot found out they're out of network. Dang iiiiiiiiit. But at least it's done.
  • abraleesy said:

    We have had several pertussis deaths in my area this year so my husband and I, teen daughter, mom and mil all got TDAP shots. I'm in the Bay Area, and a lot of people in the Santa Cruz and Berkeley areas refuse to vaccinate, which is why my doctor believes there has been such an outbreak in this area recently.

    I'm not big on flu shots, but vaccinations that can 100% prevent deadly diseases/viruses, to me those are a different story.


    First, just to correct medical information, no vaccine is 100%. If you complete a series and get required boosters on time the. Most are 95-98%. Second, flu is a deadly disease, especially for pregnant women and infants but healthy adults die of the flu every year. The efficacy of the flu vaccine changes year to year but just because it's not 100% doesn't mean it's not important. Seat belts won't save your life in 100% of car crashes but I'm willing to bet you wear one.
  • rerawalt said:
    We have had several pertussis deaths in my area this year so my husband and I, teen daughter, mom and mil all got TDAP shots. I'm in the Bay Area, and a lot of people in the Santa Cruz and Berkeley areas refuse to vaccinate, which is why my doctor believes there has been such an outbreak in this area recently. I'm not big on flu shots, but vaccinations that can 100% prevent deadly diseases/viruses, to me those are a different story.
    First, just to correct medical information, no vaccine is 100%. If you complete a series and get required boosters on time the. Most are 95-98%. Second, flu is a deadly disease, especially for pregnant women and infants but healthy adults die of the flu every year. The efficacy of the flu vaccine changes year to year but just because it's not 100% doesn't mean it's not important. Seat belts won't save your life in 100% of car crashes but I'm willing to bet you wear one.
    My OB told be just the H1N1 was actually killing people, not the seasonal flu.
    But it can be a bad case if you get it pregnant as it can cause early labor and you will take a long time to recover. She only wanted me to get one to be protected from the really bad strain, that's it. Because I have never had a flu vaccine, or any flu actually, so she considers my immune system to be weak in front of the flu. 
    The regular flu kills people with respiratory problems, so that may be a bit exaggerated to say that healthy adults die of it every year, they don't die od the seasonal flu. From the info I gathered that does not make sense.




  • urby87urby87 member
    edited October 2015
    poupoule said:
    rerawalt said:
    We have had several pertussis deaths in my area this year so my husband and I, teen daughter, mom and mil all got TDAP shots. I'm in the Bay Area, and a lot of people in the Santa Cruz and Berkeley areas refuse to vaccinate, which is why my doctor believes there has been such an outbreak in this area recently. I'm not big on flu shots, but vaccinations that can 100% prevent deadly diseases/viruses, to me those are a different story.
    First, just to correct medical information, no vaccine is 100%. If you complete a series and get required boosters on time the. Most are 95-98%. Second, flu is a deadly disease, especially for pregnant women and infants but healthy adults die of the flu every year. The efficacy of the flu vaccine changes year to year but just because it's not 100% doesn't mean it's not important. Seat belts won't save your life in 100% of car crashes but I'm willing to bet you wear one.
    My OB told be just the H1N1 was actually killing people, not the seasonal flu.
    But it can be a bad case if you get it pregnant as it can cause early labor and you will take a long time to recover. She only wanted me to get one to be protected from the really bad strain, that's it. Because I have never had a flu vaccine, or any flu actually, so she considers my immune system to be weak in front of the flu. 
    The regular flu kills people with respiratory problems, so that may be a bit exaggerated to say that healthy adults die of it every year, they don't die od the seasonal flu. From the info I gathered that does not make sense.
    The "regular" flu does kill healthy people.  Not in the quantities that it kills infants/children, elderly, and pregnant women, but it does.  If an otherwise healthy adult gets the flu and it goes unchecked, it can lead to other illnesses and/or complications that can easily kill.  So while technically maybe you wouldn't consider the flu the cause of death, others certainly would.  Pneumonia and other illnesses often start off as something more benign.
  • Anyone here have to pay out of pocket for the tdap? Doc's office doesn't administer it so they told me to go to any pharmacy and when I got there they told me my insurance wouldn't cover it and I'd have to pay $130 for the shot. I have what is supposedly a great PPO plan with UHC and was surprised by this. I paid it and was going to follow up with insurance co. Wednesday to find out why it wasn't covered. Just thought it was odd.


    United Health Care?? I have the same and they paid for mine - definitely check into it.

  • I'm trying to figure out what I can do in this situation- I got the information on flu and TDaP vaccines today at my appointment.
    The thing about TDaP, I would take it if I could. It's that I got DTP as a baby and had a severe reaction to Pertussis, thus ever after that I only could get TD or DT boosters. It's now where I depend on the herd immunity- and it's scary because I travel across US and globally occasionally, and I know I risk myself getting whooping cough, so I do my best to avoid getting sick and avoid sick people especially while traveling.

    Now, with this pregnancy, I'm doing a lot of research, and the question is do I want to risk another severe allergic reaction, especially when this baby is inside of me, and when this baby needs his mom?
    What do you all say about this? Remember- If I could freely get the vaccine, I would in an instant. But I have to weight my options, and make what is the most logical and safe choice for this LO.
  • I'm trying to figure out what I can do in this situation- I got the information on flu and TDaP vaccines today at my appointment.
    The thing about TDaP, I would take it if I could. It's that I got DTP as a baby and had a severe reaction to Pertussis, thus ever after that I only could get TD or DT boosters. It's now where I depend on the herd immunity- and it's scary because I travel across US and globally occasionally, and I know I risk myself getting whooping cough, so I do my best to avoid getting sick and avoid sick people especially while traveling.

    Now, with this pregnancy, I'm doing a lot of research, and the question is do I want to risk another severe allergic reaction, especially when this baby is inside of me, and when this baby needs his mom?
    What do you all say about this? Remember- If I could freely get the vaccine, I would in an instant. But I have to weight my options, and make what is the most logical and safe choice for this LO.

    I just want to say my younger sister (who is 31 now), almost died DTP-seizure-turned blue-ER. She was told not to get the Tdap and her son(born Sept 16-5 weeks old), will be given only 1/2 a dose in 3 weeks to check for reactions. Obviously your doctor knows best(or at least should-I'm skeptical sometimes), but wanted to give you an example similar to yours.

  • ash413ash413 member
    edited October 2015

    I'm trying to figure out what I can do in this situation- I got the information on flu and TDaP vaccines today at my appointment.
    The thing about TDaP, I would take it if I could. It's that I got DTP as a baby and had a severe reaction to Pertussis, thus ever after that I only could get TD or DT boosters. It's now where I depend on the herd immunity- and it's scary because I travel across US and globally occasionally, and I know I risk myself getting whooping cough, so I do my best to avoid getting sick and avoid sick people especially while traveling.

    Now, with this pregnancy, I'm doing a lot of research, and the question is do I want to risk another severe allergic reaction, especially when this baby is inside of me, and when this baby needs his mom?
    What do you all say about this? Remember- If I could freely get the vaccine, I would in an instant. But I have to weight my options, and make what is the most logical and safe choice for this LO.

    Second exposures are often worse then the inital, so given the fact you had a severe reaction the first time I would probably decline one this time. It is something to discuss with your OB, but there is a survey they give you before and one of the questions asks if you have had an allergic reaction before so I doubt they would give it to you.
            
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  • My OB advised flu shot today but not tdap

  • The CDC changed the recommendation for tdap ... It is recommended during pregnancy now. I think between 27-36 weeks.
  • I'm trying to figure out what I can do in this situation- I got the information on flu and TDaP vaccines today at my appointment.
    The thing about TDaP, I would take it if I could. It's that I got DTP as a baby and had a severe reaction to Pertussis, thus ever after that I only could get TD or DT boosters. It's now where I depend on the herd immunity- and it's scary because I travel across US and globally occasionally, and I know I risk myself getting whooping cough, so I do my best to avoid getting sick and avoid sick people especially while traveling.

    Now, with this pregnancy, I'm doing a lot of research, and the question is do I want to risk another severe allergic reaction, especially when this baby is inside of me, and when this baby needs his mom?
    What do you all say about this? Remember- If I could freely get the vaccine, I would in an instant. But I have to weight my options, and make what is the most logical and safe choice for this LO.

    First of all, as PPs have said, definitely get your doctor's advice. Not a medical professional here.
    That being said, allergists can do a scratch test of some vaccinations to see if you do have an allergy to it. If the ingredients have changed since you had the vaccination, or if you have outgrown the allergy, you would be able to find that out. I'm not sure if the TDAP is one that they can test for, but it would be worth finding out.
  • Talk to your doctor, people; it's really not that hard to figure out. Immunizations are important for not just you, and not even just your baby, but for those around you who can't get vaccinated. I just got the TDAP yesterday; I had to clear it with my doctor first as I had seizures in infancy. But I did it. My arm hurts, but I've had no reaction in spite of my childhood health history.

    When you're having a baby this time of year, vaccines are even more important than they usually are. Your baby needs that protection and won't be able to get it himself for quite a while. Do whatever you can to find out if you can; don't quit on it just because you had a reaction when you were a baby. As PP suggested, get an allergy test. Do whatever you have to do to protect your baby.
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