I don't feel it is a clear reference to the Nazi party. I think that is such a stretch and totally overboard. Legends of valkyries significantly predate Wagner and the Nazi party. Wagner was dead long before there was a Nazi party. As for the name of the Hitler assassination attempt, that is even more absurd to bring up. It was a thing long before that, and regardless of Wagner's personal opinions, Ride of the Valkyries is still great music. Anyway, the general public is too ignorant to think about a name so deeply.
Except Tom Cruise made a movie named Valkyrie about the failed attempt fairly recently, so it is known by the general public.
I don't feel it is a clear reference to the Nazi party. I think that is such a stretch and totally overboard. Legends of valkyries significantly predate Wagner and the Nazi party. Wagner was dead long before there was a Nazi party. As for the name of the Hitler assassination attempt, that is even more absurd to bring up. It was a thing long before that, and regardless of Wagner's personal opinions, Ride of the Valkyries is still great music. Anyway, the general public is too ignorant to think about a name so deeply.
Well so was the swastika....
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The secret mission to kill Hilter was called "Valkyrie" because it would not be overheard as anything negative against the Nazi's. It was practically the Third Reich's theme song. Aside from that, it's has a strong reference to war and death. I guess that's pretty metal, but if I saw a kid on one of my class rosters named Valkyrie, I would immediately think, "poor kid."
Dude, World War 2 ended 70 years ago, why is everyone so paranoid and looking for potential Nazi references? Isn't it enough that no one can name their kid Adolf anymore? I also do not think Valkyrie is a very good name, but certainly not because of Wagner's opera and because Hitler was a fan of it.
@RoseShadow873 - people are still too paranoid to use the swastica (except in Asian countries and densely Asian populations, where it retains its religious meaning) 70 years after WW2. Certain names elicit strong feelings for people, and they were sharing those feelings as reason to consider a different name. I think Valkyrie would be a great name for a dog, but not for a baby.
**lurking** I think it's a terrible name choice in and of itself. The associations make it worse. Probably not what you want your child to have to explain in their 2nd grade "what's in a name" assignment.
As for the other names suggested to you that you claim are a dime a dozen... in my 30 years on this planet I've only ever met two Valeries and none by the other names suggested. If you don't like the suggested alternatives, that's totally fine. But please, for the sake of your child, consider a different name. I would side eye the shit out of it on a resume.
Over a fifth of Americans don't know the difference between astronomy and astrology, so I have my doubts that most people, upon meeting someone with an unusual name, will be quickly reviewing their limited knowledge of history and labeling her as a Nazi.
Over a fifth of Americans don't know the difference between astronomy and astrology, so I have my doubts that most people, upon meeting someone with an unusual name, will be quickly reviewing their limited knowledge of history and labeling her as a Nazi.
I'm not sure why you feel the need to keep defending the OP's name choice. She asked for opinions; the opinions aren't positive for many reasons, including, for SOME people, possible nazi references. My dislike for the name has nothing to do with that. OP can take or leave my opinion, and she seems to be perfectly capable of making her own decision so enough with the WK act already.
If you read my posts you would know I am not defending the name choice. I expressed my reservations about the name. I just think saying it's a Nazi name is uncalled for. Like I said before, I think it is a cool word but I personally think it might be too unconventional for me to want to name my baby that, but it really is better than a lot of names out there now. I like it way more than Dakota for one thing. I am starting to think it is a decent name honestly and not just for a girl.
Over a fifth of Americans don't know the difference between astronomy and astrology, so I have my doubts that most people, upon meeting someone with an unusual name, will be quickly reviewing their limited knowledge of history and labeling her as a Nazi.
I think that's a terrible argument, you're basically saying only idiots won't catch on to the Wagner association. "Oh, the name you're thinking of using could cause people to think lesser of your child due to negative associations, but it's only smart people who will have those negative associations. All the dumb people she interacts with won't notice"
In any case, plenty of people have pointed out other downsides then Wagner (somewhat niche) and the failed assassination plot (fairly common pop culture knowledge). If OP wants to stick with it, she can, but she should know that she's basically starting her kids life off with a -5 charisma.
Dude, World War 2 ended 70 years ago, why is everyone so paranoid and looking for potential Nazi references? Isn't it enough that no one can name their kid Adolf anymore? I also do not think Valkyrie is a very good name, but certainly not because of Wagner's opera and because Hitler was a fan of it.
Did you name your child Valkyrie and is that why you are so hardcore defending this? People on here are giving their opinions on this name, and we, the general public, dislike it and have believe it has negative connotations. Even if one fifth of the population doesn't associate that name with anything, well, looks like four fifths will.
I personally do not like the name & wouldn't name my daughter that. However, it's your decision and if you really like the name and are set on it then I say go for it! It's your child. Good luck
... she should know that she's basically starting her kids life off with a -5 charisma.
☺️ -5 cha, I got a kick out of that.
That being said, I must agree with the general consensus. Regardless of the cool mythological origins of the word (which your child may or may not find as cool as you do), the other associations are undeniable. More importantly, a good percentage of people she meets (little baby's peers as she grows, for example) not only won't know how to pronounce or spell it, but many will likely make sure to tell her what they think of her unusual name. It won't be long 'til your dear Valkyrie hates her moniker and resents you for giving it to her. Some people get over those feelings as an adult, but many don't.
OP, I think I understand your desire to give your child a strong, singular, individual name... My name is Amy. Growing up in the 70's & 80's, if you yelled "Amy" in a crowd, at least three of us would turn around. Ugh! So I named my DD Ashton... I think it's beautiful, and not something you hear every day. She's now almost 15, and even though her somewhat uncommon name is increasing in popularity, she really hasn't liked having a distinctive name. So, I guess my point is that you need to consider what is ultimately more important: whether you love your child's name, or whether your child loves it.
It is my opinion that people who give their children ridiculous names (ex. Valkyrie) have never used a resume.
As someone who has frequently sifted through resumes and interviewed people, I'd be like...wtf, Valkyrie?
This is exactly what I was thinking. I mean, it would be cool if she grew up to be head of the DoD or something, but what if Valkyrie decides she wants to be an accountant or an IT auditor? The interviewing partners are going to be like
HONESTLY, just do what you and your SO want. I know you just wanted opinions etc but I've seen often posting name threads never turns out too well for the OP. It's your baby, so you decide
HONESTLY, just do what you and your SO want. I know you just wanted opinions etc but I've seen often posting name threads never turns out too well for the OP. It's your baby, so you decide
^wss. I don't really get the whole thing of asking for opinions on something you (OP) seem fairly set on doing--it doesn't seem like you were ever going to change your mind based on what anybody said. Plenty of people gave their opinions, which I suppose you asked for, but you certainly don't have to like or agree with them. I, personally, definitely don't like this name, or many others mentioned on the names thread, but it's not my kid.
Dude, World War 2 ended 70 years ago, why is everyone so paranoid and looking for potential Nazi references? Isn't it enough that no one can name their kid Adolf anymore? I also do not think Valkyrie is a very good name, but certainly not because of Wagner's opera and because Hitler was a fan of it.
Yeah, you're right. Because it's been 70 years since the brutal slaughter of millions of innocent people, we should just move on and forget about it. Oh wait... no we shouldn't. No matter how much time passes, the horrible acts committed by Hitler and the Nazi party remain just as atrocious, and I think to say that it somehow matters less 70 years later is just wrong.
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I was not saying it doesn't matter, just that I don't understand why everyone is looking so hard for Nazi references. I need to leave this site for good because there is no chance for any logical discussions. Everyone here is way too emotional.
I was not saying it doesn't matter, just that I don't understand why everyone is looking so hard for Nazi references. I need to leave this site for good because there is no chance for any logical discussions. Everyone here is way too emotional.
I'm not emotional... I feel perfectly calm. Your point just wasn't valid to me. I'm honestly not trying to push anyone away or make anyone leave the website... at the same time, if I see a comment that doesn't make sense to me, I'm probably going to respond. It's not a personal attack.
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I honestly don't care about the origins of the name - I just know if I was on a playground and heard somebody call for "Valkyrie" I would think "oh... no."
Similar to the feeling I had when DH redneck cousin named her child 'Mason Dixon.'
I was not saying it doesn't matter, just that I don't understand why everyone is looking so hard for Nazi references. I need to leave this site for good because there is no chance for any logical discussions. Everyone here is way too emotional.
I'm not "looking for" Nazi references. I happen to know them as a part of my knowledge of the world and its history. As PP mentioned, there's a large budget movie about one aspect and others with a knowledge of music and/or history have identified it as a possible issue. I don't see how this is "looking for" Nazi references. They exist, they aren't obscure and a number of people have mentioned them.
70 years ago or not, WWII is very much still a part of our history and culture- still within living memory and used in pop culture.
I think this is the first time I've ever read anything akin to "zomg you guys, won't you just GET OVER WWII & the Holocaust, already? It's so long ago. Gosh!"
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As for the other names suggested to you that you claim are a dime a dozen... in my 30 years on this planet I've only ever met two Valeries and none by the other names suggested. If you don't like the suggested alternatives, that's totally fine. But please, for the sake of your child, consider a different name. I would side eye the shit out of it on a resume.
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That being said, I must agree with the general consensus. Regardless of the cool mythological origins of the word (which your child may or may not find as cool as you do), the other associations are undeniable. More importantly, a good percentage of people she meets (little baby's peers as she grows, for example) not only won't know how to pronounce or spell it, but many will likely make sure to tell her what they think of her unusual name. It won't be long 'til your dear Valkyrie hates her moniker and resents you for giving it to her. Some people get over those feelings as an adult, but many don't.
OP, I think I understand your desire to give your child a strong, singular, individual name... My name is Amy. Growing up in the 70's & 80's, if you yelled "Amy" in a crowd, at least three of us would turn around. Ugh! So I named my DD Ashton... I think it's beautiful, and not something you hear every day. She's now almost 15, and even though her somewhat uncommon name is increasing in popularity, she really hasn't liked having a distinctive name. So, I guess my point is that you need to consider what is ultimately more important: whether you love your child's name, or whether your child loves it.
Best of luck to you and your little one.
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Similar to the feeling I had when DH redneck cousin named her child 'Mason Dixon.'
70 years ago or not, WWII is very much still a part of our history and culture- still within living memory and used in pop culture.
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