Was just reminded why I prefer this birth group

MamaOwl15 · September 2015

So infertility is like the Ivy Leagues of pregnancy, huh? Just because someone didn't spend thousands of dollars to conceive their child doesn't mean they don't cherish every moment. What about the women who get pregnant easily but have experienced as many losses as live births?

What about the women who have no trouble conceiving but spend every second of their pregnancy dealing with pregnancy-induced medical conditions which rob them of the chance to enjoy pregnancy?

Every pregnancy is different, as every woman and these comparison games make me sick. The attitude of superiority that certain people have shown, in part because if their unique situation, is disturbing. So don't wonder why people question the authenticity of an apology like prezmosbabe's, especially when she proceeded to defend herself and her supposed superiority.

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Krysta6 · September 2015

brokenoven said:

It was @Panda100 who accused Brooklyn of having a mental illness because she candidly expressed her frustration over constantly being accused of meanness and having innocuous comments reported. Maybe that's who got her banned? Or was it @brokenoven? Both of you have quickly jumped to defend prezmosbabe while attacking a well-liked (former) member of the community.
Yes we have. All of you have quickly jumped to attack Pbabe for things others said to your well liked former member. Pbabe only said she didn't respect her opinion. Only very very irrational people blame someone else for another persons actions. No reasonable adult does that. You have all gone to great lengths & made up massive lies within this thread that nobody can prove at all just to berate her & crucify her because you're salty your friend got banned which is also magically pbabes fault. You all sound just absolutely ridiculous legitimately blaming someone else for the things others did & said. Your friend amberrmarrie even made up a lie in the 'taking back exes' saying that pbabe said nobody else should wear sunscreen because pbabe doesn't know anyone personally who does. Amberrmarie used that lie in the same paragraph that she accused another member of making up lies to get likes & sympathy when the facts are Pbabe never ever ever even remotely said anything like that. She said she can't give the recommendation she made about a green sunscreen with first hand experience because she doesn't know anyone who uses sunscreen. While it isn't exactly a wise decision it is very common for people who are not European decent who do not have fair skin to not use sunscreen & that's what she was saying. Yet amberrmarie completely lied & said Pbabe said she doesn't know anyone who uses sunscreen so nobody else should. The lengths you are all going to to attack someone who never did anything to you & has had 3 arguments with people in this group are disgusting & sickening. The lies being made up are alarming. You people are genuinely scary. Like lock my doors at night in case one of you can hack & found out my addres scary.

Oh darling we aren't the scary ones.. You and your little "crew" that only come out when prezzie gets herself in trouble are the scary ones. Does it involve a bat signal???????

Keep playing like she was the victim here. She has attacked NUMEROUS people here even ones trying to give her honest opinions when she asks a question. But if you don't agree with Prezzie be ready to have a drive by attacking by random posters with no previous posts --- but we are the scary ones, that makes total sense

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mollypuss1 · September 2015

brokenoven said:

MamaOwl15 said:

While it isn't exactly a wise decision it is very common for people who are not European decent who do not have fair skin to not use sunscreen
This is absolutely irrelevant to the argument but I find it laughably baffling. Are you saying that people of European descent are all fair skinned and wear sunscreen? Have you ever actually been to Europe?

Also, too many quote boxes on the go in posts now, I can't keep up anymore

Anyway, on you go back to the topic ...

AmyB421 · September 2015

@brokenoven I'm not wasting anymore time with you. I'm not calling other people into this and I'm not posting things that violate the rules because simply put you and presmosbabe aren't worth it to me. I said what I had to say and stated my facts, whether or not you or anyone else believes me doesn't matter to me. You're never going to believe anything that goes against your precious friend and that's fine by me, she's got your support and I have the support of many people here and in my real life. Take care.

J1D · September 2015

Dear @brokenoven do you remember me? I remember you

I think you know how I feel about you. Could you do us a quick favor and tighten down a little on your rants? I can't pay attention long enough to get through all your blah blah blahing. Did you get all your laundry done last night?

naka92 · September 2015

brokenoven said:

brokenoven said:
Nope didn't say you don't give a fuck about your pregnancies. Didn't even imply it & wasn't even talking to any of you. I said for a woman who went through fertility treatments pregnancy is a very different experience. Just because the experiences are different doesn't mean one doesn't give a fuck while the other does. You can think I implied what you want to think I implied. That doesn't mean I meant what you think I meant. Not in this world.
Really, you dont see how that implies that at all? Funny that, I guess the admins agreed with me since that particular post got deleted for a TOU violation. Maybe you should spend some less time coming to these boards to defend your dear friend and a little more time getting aware of how you come across.
And I'll beat you to it: I am fully aware that I come across a bitch At least I own up to my shit.
The admins have thought many things that people don't think is worthy of. a TOU are. Isnt it you people ranting about your friend getting banned for TOU violations that you didn't feel were and are trying to blame that on my friend? I will not spend any time becoming aware of how I come across to people that were attacking my friend who I wanted to comfort. I cannot begin to tell you how much I don't care if I offended any of you. I don't feel you come across as a bitch you just come across as ignorant to me.

You point out perfectly how hypocritical you and your friend really are. She went on a tirade just yesterday about how a TOU is a TOU, and now youre here pretending that TOUs are bullshit again. Your "side" may want to pick one standpoint and stick to it. Thanks for biting, though.
Also, honey, you attacked a lot of us back on the other thread for trying to comfort our friend, so dont expect us to back down because "oh noes, poor prezzipoop".

Lets see.. definition of ignorant.. "lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated."
Well, you're partly right, I never finished high school so you could say I'm uneducated. Yet I'm sitting here having conversations with you in a language that is not my own, so I dont think me being uneducated is holding me back a whole lot, personally. Nor do I feel I lack knowledge or awareness. But hey, if that's what you want to see me as, feel free.

J1D · September 2015

P.S. I woke up this morning, read where this thread had gone and had a pretty epic Munchkins in OZ song and dance moment

And it's super funny cause now it's complete with a Cowardly Lion!!! All the lolz!

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mollypuss1 · September 2015

brokenoven said:

mollypuss1 said:

brokenoven said:

MelMel92 said:

brokenoven said:

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AmyB421 said:

brokenoven said:
Well I for one feel this is the most absurd & irrational deportment I have ever seen towards one person. You all deserve a standing ovation for your burning desire for revenge. I have lurked here almost daily ever since the topic that has provoked all of your hate towards prezmosbabe & the topic that got your friend banned was one that prezmosbabe never even commented on. Like she truthfully said - she didn't even participate in button pushing threads or commonly engage in arguments. What you all are displaying is the perfect illustration of pact mentality that so often happens in online groups & your futile attempts to divert what was meant to be a positve post further congeals that all you are were set out to do was crucify Prezmosbabe because you are all sore about your cyber companion getting banned & this was the prefect opportunity to do so. You all were clearly just absolutely itching to attack her. For what though is the real enigma.

Not a single assertion made towards Prezmosbabe here was validated. Not one. When she would make a sensible argument none of you had anything practicable or fair-minded to say. Not a single utterance of reason from any of you when she expressed mystification at the backlash & the level of irrationality observed here beats no other topic I have ever seen on the bump. Not a shred of evidence to validate a single allegation made. Every single allegation was not justified. @ CandiPuff your allegations were the most outlandish. Most have indeed fabricated what they have said about her & the fact that they are fabrications can certainly be proven with a glimpse of her profileher but even those that have done this have concocted something so elaborate & claimed that the majority of Prezmosbabe activity is negative. What's going in here is you people are not use to someone disagreeing with you without faltering & surcumbbing to the pack in the very few arguments she has participated in. You are resentful of her individualism & it is disruptive to the flow of your group harmony. That is why you are so angry with her but cannot offer up legitimate reasons why or any explanation at all other than a reference to thread where someone you like got their feelings hurt by me not even by Prezmosbabe. You were angry that she had friend that care enough about her to defend her that is also not part of your group. You couldn't stand the fast that she didn't want to fit in. She didn't want to sit with you. She rejected your group & hour group mentality & that angered you & that explains the attempts made to fight with her even though there was nothing for you to fight about.

To see that you all hate someone so much because they don't go along with your crowd and adhere to your specific way of using the internet it is very very alarming & is exactly the reason others are hesitant to post personal information online. This level of backlash is abnormal.

I was very perplexed by all the assertions that prezmosbabe was such a problematic & unpleasant member. I was very interested to see all these threads where presmosbabe allegedly commenced astronomical amounts of drama & relentless arguing & I looked for it in her public profile like she welcomed the rest of you to do. She has said 3 things that were obviously meant to be intentionally rude to people in this group. She has engaged in arguing back & forth in 3 other topics two of which your beloved Brooklyn was actually defending her & in one those topics I am speaking of Brooklyn was defending her against someone who was banned that was absolutely and truly here solely causing drama & to argue. Prezmosbabe stood up & expressed she felt some of your behavior towards another poster was reviling in 2 threads. This is all that I have seen & this is what you hate her for?

I hope you all don't get warm and fuzzy feelings because she was banned because somone who has 1000 posts in 7 years likely doesn't care about a ban. I know the only reason she stayed on the bump at all was because everyone left the infertilty board & new members would go there desperately seeking advice & there wasn't really any other infertilty veterans there to answer them. She told me she felt bad & felt owed it to the bump to stay & try to help those ladies because the bump was there for her in her dark infertility days. So I doubt she is crying herself to sleep right now because she can no longer post in your birth club. I know for a fact many women have been driven away from her because behavior Prezmosband stood up to. I know this because many of those women have gone to another forum & have said as much.

Prezmos babe doesn't deserve to be treated like this during her pregnancy. Nobody does. So good for Prezmosbabe for getting banned. She has done herself a favor.

I'll probably get banned for this post too. The beauty of it is- I don't care.
Your friend is not as innocent as you think she just hid a lot of her behavior in private messages to people which they cannot post on the board as it is a TOU violation. She was the only person who ever made me feel unwelcome on this board and made me scared to comment. She had friends from the TTC board send me rude messages as well that told me I don't deserve my pregnancy as much as she did and I don't derive the same level of happiness about my pregnancy as she does because I didn't spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to get pregnant. Well guess what I struggled to get pregnant and had losses along the way I just don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars to spend to get pregnant. Does that sound like someone who is welcoming to people? Does that sound like someone trying to help people? And what did I do to deserve this from her? I simply pointed out her question had been asked 2 days prior and there was a lot of information on that post. I guess I am just a miserable witch who doesn't deserve to have a child because I pointed someone in the direction of helpful information.

As for the posts people are referring to--they're on closed threads and they can't be mentioned/brought back up because that is also a TOU violation.

If she actually wanted to apologize all she had to do was look back through her messages and she could have sent each person a private meaningful real apology. Instead she decided to post a passive aggressive comment and stir up more drama. And then after she is banned she sends you in to stir up more drama.
Oh it's you. Panda100 is the friend who messaged you and she told me all about you. Panda100 definitely did not say anything that you said at all! I swear to god on my life people what panda100 told me is this poster sent her a message claiming presmosbabe was evil and sent nasty evil messages. This member didn't realize panda100 was friends with Prezmosbabe when she said this & panda100 asked Prezmosbabe if this was true. Prezmosbabe sent panda a screen shot of the exact correspondence between herself & this user & then panda sent it back to this girl & asked her what exactly was evil & cruel about what was in Prezmosbabes message. When this user couldn't come up with an explanation she accused panda of also being evil & then blocked her. Nobody ever said anything remotely close to her that she is claiming. @panda100 please come & catch this woman in this repulsive disgusting lie. I'm tagging panda so that when I get banned someone is here to prove this awful horrible things are a lie. I cannot even believe someone would make something like this up. Seriously who are you?

Naw she didn't send me end to start more drama. I lurk here every single day and often check on her here. Saying what I feel about the backlash she received is not starting more drama. I'm going to go ahead & take a wild gander that anyone who doesn't agree with this group is starting drama.

And I'm going to go ahead & take a wild gander that anyone who hasnt spent thousands getting pregnant doesnt value their baby? Please, just go home. We've had more than enough of our share of your "drama-free" posts back in the toy thread.

:-h

I never said that either.. Nope. I wasn't even talking to any of you in that thread I was talking to Prezmosbabe & I never remotely said that at all. Your imagination is very vivid & it's pretty ridiculously to start making up lies when you can't come up with anything constructive to say. You're just offended because I was not on your side when you chose to attack someone for saying they didn't respect your friends opinion.

I am at home. I can post where ever I like any time I like on the bump. You don't intimidate me.

Quote: "You have come way too far and have had way too many struggles to sit her and listen to these women. They don't understand that a woman who has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to conceive and went through much heartache and pain will have a very different experience with pregnancy and parenting. You cherish and treasure every moment because you know that you almost didn't get that chance. You cry just looking at your child and tell them every day how lucky you are to be their mama. You have a desire to be the best you can possibly be and you don't take motherhood for granted. "

Just read that and see how much it implies that we dont give a fuck about our pregnancies or our babies, and how much it assumes that none of us have struggled with infertility. I dont have to make up lies, sweetcheeks, it's all right there.
I also wasnt even active in that thread, so so much for the whole "I was not on your side" thing, I didnt have a side in that particular thread because I slept all the way through the actual arguement. My post in that thread was a darn bunny gif to try and calm people down. So now who is the one making shit up?
Nope didn't say you don't give a fuck about your pregnancies. Didn't even imply it & wasn't even talking to any of you. I said for a woman who went through fertility treatments pregnancy is a very different experience. Just because the experiences are different doesn't mean one doesn't give a fuck while the other does. You can think I implied what you want to think I implied. That doesn't mean I meant what you think I meant. Not in this world.

Oh you did imply it sweetie. I remember it well and you were implying a lot of hurtful stuff in that post whether you wanna admit it now or not.

So any time someone says something that you don't like to one of your friends it is hurtful & uncalled for but you are all free to say what you want to others even if it is unjustified & how dare they have the audacity to defend themselves? Like this behavior from you all is just bizarre. Good for you pbabe for getting banned. Good for you mama.

You seem to think that everyone on here is best friends. We're not. I am not friends with anyone on here nor am I part of any 'clique' or 'sisterhood' as people have regularly been accused of. You keep grouping EVERYONE on here who disagrees with you as simply backing up their 'friends' rather than accepting that many of us are voicing out individual opinions based on nothing but what we have read in this and previous posts. My opinion has nothing to do with friendship (unlike yours) as I was neither friends with prezmosbabe or Brooklyn, it is based solely on the posts I am reading.

MamaOwl15 · September 2015

I'd like to avoid a TOU violation so I'm not referencing any particular threads in order to defend my position. However, there have been several instances of comments being made by Pbabe that caused other members to feel that she was looking down on them.

We are not here to attack her personal lifestyle choices, her experience in pregnancy, or anything else. The comments in response to her "apology" were not to attack her.

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J1D · September 2015

@AmyB421 you are all good girl! And nope you don't need to defend yourself to anyone

We all believe you, so for realz don't worry about what BO has to say. Not one little bit.

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