If you do not trust the CDC with vaccinations for your child, I urge you to talk to a wide variety of pediatricians. They are experts in their field and perhaps can provide you with the answer you are looking for. I have firsthand seen the effects of diseases such as polio, pertussis, etc. against those who could not be vaccinated and would never want to subject my child to these illnesses. I understand that you want to do what is best for your child and that the thought of vaccine injury may be alarming (especially with all of the media noise out there) but I urge you to consult medical professionals if the well-intentioned comments of those on this board who have vaccinated their children does not sway you.
Also @KDHB13 I am with you on the asthma. I don't believe that a vaccination caused it, I believe that it was inherited from my father. However, even if I did get it from a vaccine, I'd prefer asthma over polio or smallpox or some shit like that.
Also @KDHB13 I am with you on the asthma. I don't believe that a vaccination caused it, I believe that it was inherited from my father. However, even if I did get it from a vaccine, I'd prefer asthma over polio or smallpox or some shit like that.
Right?? I saw someone on a Facebook group once comment she didn't want to vaccinate bc of ear infections being a side effect. WTF? "Yeah, I'd rather risk heptatitis or smallpox than an ear infection."
Also @KDHB13 I am with you on the asthma. I don't believe that a vaccination caused it, I believe that it was inherited from my father. However, even if I did get it from a vaccine, I'd prefer asthma over polio or smallpox or some shit like that.
Right?? I saw someone on a Facebook group once comment she didn't want to vaccinate bc of ear infections being a side effect. WTF? "Yeah, I'd rather risk heptatitis or smallpox than an ear infection."
First off, I'm calling MUD. Secondly, some diseases that once killed or injured people have been eliminated or are close to extinction because of immunizations. Severe allergic reactions are very rare. The benefit of disease-prevention outweighs the risk of side effects in my opinion. Some vaccine-preventable diseases can result in prolonged disabilities and can take a financial toll because of lost time at work, medical bills or long-term disability care.
My Ped won't treat kids who's parent refuse to vaccinate. And if you choose to delay, just because there might be allergies, they will also show you the door. Have I mentioned how much I love my ped's office?
My Ped won't treat kids who's parent refuse to vaccinate. And if you choose to delay, just because there might be allergies, they will also show you the door. have I mentioned how much I love my bed's office.
That is the one thing I hate about these boards is the pack mentality. I would love to hear from someone who's actually stuck with not vaccinating their child and could come forward and speak their mind about it. But the pack would surely eat them alive. Just to be clear this will (hopefully) be my first viable pregnancy and have not decided which way I'll be going. I have read a lot on both sides and I just love to hear real women's thoughts ON BOTH options. I won't be trusting the cdc with my child's well being and I just don't like the idea of pumping a week old baby with aluminum and formaldehyde. No one said a thing about Jenny McCarthy but okie dokie. Keep it coming:)
I think you are confusing "pack mentality" with "scientific consensus." One is driven by fear, while the other is based on peer-reviewed research by credentialed experts.
I should also say that the reason so many of us feel so strongly about this issue is because this is way more than an issue of personal choice. Whether or not you vaccinate a child is a public health issue. This means that what you do to your baby can have an effect on my baby. These diseases are communicable, and they spread very quickly. The recent outbreak of measles at Disneyland is a good example.
I don't see how delaying is something to turn a patient away from an office. If my child is still getting all their shots before 25 shots before 5 how is me asking to space them out that bad. (This is a legit question) like if we are scheduled to get 4 shots today how is me getting 2 of them today and waiting 2-3 weeks to get the other 2 a terrible thing?
I will do them but honestly it scares me and I don't understand why so much crap has to be put in them. In general I'm very organic, try not to take medicines (but will if absolutely needed). Im certainly not anti western medicine but just try my best to be natural as much as possible. The reason vaccines worry me is because I know someone who's 18 month old went in for some routine ones, and ended up violently sick that night. She was admitted to the hospital and told she had a bad reaction to the vaccines but was stable and fine now. They took her home and the next morning she was worse so they took her back in and she ended up passing away in the hospital. Ever since then it's a huge worry for me but at the same time, we are so lucky to have vaccines. Look at what happened with the measles thing. What if that were polio or something even worse coming back? Since I know cases like my friends are extremely rare, I'll do it... But I'll certainly be nervous when the time comes
OP, are you going to start a thread about circumcision next?
I can't deal with another circumcision debate and hearing people compare it to female genital mutilation and those same people piercing their daughter ears
OP, are you going to start a thread about circumcision next?
I can't deal with another circumcision debate and hearing people compare it to female genital mutilation and those same people piercing their daughter ears
Yea, its kind of like people trying to link delayed vaccines and allergies...
I will do them but honestly it scares me and I don't understand why so much crap has to be put in them. In general I'm very organic, try not to take medicines (but will if absolutely needed). Im certainly not anti western medicine but just try my best to be natural as much as possible. The reason vaccines worry me is because I know someone who's 18 month old went in for some routine ones, and ended up violently sick that night. She was admitted to the hospital and told she had a bad reaction to the vaccines but was stable and fine now. They took her home and the next morning she was worse so they took her back in and she ended up passing away in the hospital. Ever since then it's a huge worry for me but at the same time, we are so lucky to have vaccines. Look at what happened with the measles thing. What if that were polio or something even worse coming back? Since I know cases like my friends are extremely rare, I'll do it... But I'll certainly be nervous when the time comes
The additives are required to keep bacteria out of the vaccines. Also, they are in minuscule amounts. I read once that an apple has more Mercury than a vaccine.
I will do them but honestly it scares me and I don't understand why so much crap has to be put in them. In general I'm very organic, try not to take medicines (but will if absolutely needed). Im certainly not anti western medicine but just try my best to be natural as much as possible.
The reason vaccines worry me is because I know someone who's 18 month old went in for some routine ones, and ended up violently sick that night. She was admitted to the hospital and told she had a bad reaction to the vaccines but was stable and fine now. They took her home and the next morning she was worse so they took her back in and she ended up passing away in the hospital. Ever since then it's a huge worry for me but at the same time, we are so lucky to have vaccines. Look at what happened with the measles thing. What if that were polio or something even worse coming back?
Since I know cases like my friends are extremely rare, I'll do it... But I'll certainly be nervous when the time comes
Being nervous about what's in the vaccines is reasonable, I mean the term "mam bear" comes from somewhere right? Unless you studied them extensively I don't think you should be expected to know the details 100%. However, this is where we have to place the trust in those who have done the work and the research. I think the biggest thing that you mentioned is how rare the extreme cases actually are. I mean the odds of an everyday tragic accident are much greater.
One thing that helped ease my mind when I was doing the research was that the ingredients that are used are negligible. Aluminum, for example, is something like 4.4 milligrams in the first 6 months - they get more than that in their diet alone.
OP, are you going to start a thread about circumcision next?
I can't deal with another circumcision debate and hearing people compare it to female genital mutilation and those same people piercing their daughter ears
Yea, its kind of like people trying to link delayed vaccines and allergies...
I don't know if that was towards me or not but my fears comes from the fact that when my husband was younger his mom said she took him in for his shots and he broke out on his arm when she took him to the doctor they couldn't determine what the issue was. So instead of saying oh ok maybe it's just a chance I rather be safe....so yeah
I don't know if that was towards me or not but my fears comes from the fact that when my husband was younger his mom said she took him in for his shots and he broke out on his arm when she took him to the doctor they couldn't determine what the issue was. So instead of saying oh ok maybe it's just a chance I rather be safe....so yeah
OP, are you going to start a thread about circumcision next?
I can't deal with another circumcision debate and hearing people compare it to female genital mutilation and those same people piercing their daughter ears
Yea, its kind of like people trying to link delayed vaccines and allergies...
I don't know if that was towards me or not but my fears comes from the fact that when my husband was younger his mom said she took him in for his shots and he broke out on his arm when she took him to the doctor they couldn't determine what the issue was. So instead of saying oh ok maybe it's just a chance I rather be safe....so yeah
IMO, I rash is not a good enough reason to delay. That also happened 25+ years ago. Vaccines have changed.
I don't know if that was towards me or not but my fears comes from the fact that when my husband was younger his mom said she took him in for his shots and he broke out on his arm when she took him to the doctor they couldn't determine what the issue was. So instead of saying oh ok maybe it's just a chance I rather be safe....so yeah
A breakout is a really minor reaction...
And great it's a minor reaction but it's still one. I rather know ok my child got these two shots today and he had a break out or worse and than going in and like fuck they got 5 shots today which one caused this and we have a long list of ingredients to look at. I just rather be safe. I highly doubt me spacing 4 shots over 2 weeks is going to hurt my child.
@Snoflakes4eva it's not a good reason for you. Ok but it's ok for me. Maybe we have a different ideal about what I mean by delay I don't know but waiting a week to see if an reaction happens to me is no different than me getting in a week after their birthday
@st0v3s Do you remember everything you and your husband ever got a rash from? Are you gonna avoid those things too? Kids get rashes all the time. They live.
My second son got a big lump from one of his vaccines. It lasted a couple weeks and I called the doc about it. It's a minor reaction. I will still be giving him all his vaccines on time. Because a lump won't hurt him, but measles could kill him. Or he could give measles to our neighbor who is too young to vaccinate.
….Only in America do people really think that they are smarter than their doctors because the use the internet for research. Seriously.. Yes I will vaccinate this child, just like I have my son. Like others have said not only because it saves them from getting diseases that previously wiped out entire communities, but for the small percentage of little humans who actually can't be immunized. Someone go ahead and start the circumcision debate. I love when people start informing me how my child was raped and molested by doctors when he was born. Some people need to get a grip on reality.
I don't know if that was towards me or not but my fears comes from the fact that when my husband was younger his mom said she took him in for his shots and he broke out on his arm when she took him to the doctor they couldn't determine what the issue was. So instead of saying oh ok maybe it's just a chance I rather be safe....so yeah
A breakout is a really minor reaction...
And great it's a minor reaction but it's still one. I rather know ok my child got these two shots today and he had a break out or worse and than going in and like fuck they got 5 shots today which one caused this and we have a long list of ingredients to look at. I just rather be safe. I highly doubt me spacing 4 shots over 2 weeks is going to hurt my child.
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I strongly recommend that you appropriately research delaying vaccines since based on your last sentence it is clear you have not.
Do you remember everything you and your husband ever got a rash from? Are you gonna avoid those things too? Kids get rashes all the time. They live.
Yes they live but if your child gets a rash from something do you stop using that product or do you keep giving it to them under the ideal they will live? Oh this laundry detergent makes gave you a rash, I'm going to keep using it though because you will live. Also I'm not saying no vaccines ever I wholeheartedly believe in vaccines and think they are needed.
But at the end of the day that's how I feel and if my child finishes their shots at 5 years old and 3 weeks instead of 5 years on the dot I have no problem with that.
Do you remember everything you and your husband ever got a rash from? Are you gonna avoid those things too? Kids get rashes all the time. They live.
Yes they live but if your child gets a rash from something do you stop using that product or do you keep giving it to them under the ideal they will live? Oh this laundry detergent makes gave you a rash, I'm going to keep using it though because you will live. Also I'm not saying no vaccines ever I wholeheartedly believe in vaccines and think they are needed.
But at the end of the day that's how I feel and if my child finishes their shots at 5 years old and 3 weeks instead of 5 years on the dot I have no problem with that.
I think your definition of a delayed schedule is much different than the commonly accepted meaning of delayed schedule. I think you are approaching it more like you do when introducing new foods: new food, wait a few days to see if there is a reaction, try another new food. Where when people talk about a delayed vaccine schedule they mean rather than 25 shots in the first 6 months, they mean 25 shots within the first 5-6 YEARS. (That is widely different than waiting a week or two between shots.)
Vaccinations save lives. When we don't vaccinate our kids, we put those who cannot be vaccinated, like cancer patients and other immunocompromised people, newborns, and sick elderly folks at risk. What sucks is this whole thing came out of a falsified medical hoax and a couple stupid celebrities shooting their mouths off about things they know nothing about. If you do your research and talk to ANY legitimate medical professional, they will all tell you the same thing : get your children vaccinated on schedule. This shouldn't even be a discussion. Hey, maybe next we can discuss if people believe in gravity or that light travels in waves. Vaccinations is not a topic to have an opinion on. Vaccines save lives. They work.
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I strongly recommend that you appropriately research delaying vaccines since based on your last sentence it is clear you have not.
According to the doctor who I talked to about it he stated that a delaying vaccinations means or spacing them out or putting them off for longer. Any time that you push back a vaccine is considered as delaying it. So if instead of getting 5 months shots at 5 months you get it at 6 months it's considered as delayed. He also said there is no set delayed schedule people just like to go by a schedule they found online or believe is good enough
My family is pro vaccination.
OP - my husband and most of our friends are in the medical field and they have spent their entire adult lives devoted to the study of medicine and the betterment of healthcare. I don't know one of them who gave pause for even a second to vaccinate their children.
We are all here on this board bc we are excited about our pregnancies, and I'm assuming you are doing everything within your power to ensure a healthy pregnancy, I.e. Taking prenatal vitamins, giving up alcohol, etc. Why would you ever consider not giving your child the absolute best chance for a healthy life once they are born. Furthermore, how would you feel if you choose not to vaccinate and find out there is an outbreak of something somewhere your child has been? Can you imagine the fear and guilt you would feel if heaven forbid they become seriously ill from something you could have prevented?
To look at another example, peanuts have a far greater likelihood of giving your child a life threatening allergy than vaccinations have of causing any harm whatsoever to your child. Yet, I'm sure you will one day give your child peanut butter. Point being there are inherent risks in almost everything we do and parenting is full of difficult decisions, but honestly, this shouldn't be one of them. I hope you make the right choice.
I'll be vaccinating my child but let me just say personally, maybe I'm not educated on this enough. I know a lot of people with autism and I much rather have a kid with autism then a dead child because I thought autism was the end of the world. Yes I would love a healthy baby but in all seriousness a child with autism to me, while serious, is not a reason to put your child and everyone else in danger if there was even a link between the two.
@St0v3s This is a hot topic with strong views. If it's something you have researched and talked to your doctor about, that's your decision as the parent. Our pediatrician is fine with the delayed schedule we came up with.
Before DD was born we met with 3 different pediatricians and asked all 3 about vaccinating. Each one was so passionate about following the CDC's schedule and all said they would not even allow unvaccinated (on schedule) children in their practice.
Beyond common sense, that was a massive indicator to how important it is. I firmly believe medical professions are (much) more knowledgable than I am, and their strong views definitely reassured DH and me!
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Secondly, some diseases that once killed or injured people have been eliminated or are close to extinction because of immunizations. Severe allergic reactions are very rare. The benefit of disease-prevention outweighs the risk of side effects in my opinion. Some vaccine-preventable diseases can result in prolonged disabilities and can take a financial toll because of lost time at work, medical bills or long-term disability care.
Now why is that so hard to realize, OP?
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The reason vaccines worry me is because I know someone who's 18 month old went in for some routine ones, and ended up violently sick that night. She was admitted to the hospital and told she had a bad reaction to the vaccines but was stable and fine now. They took her home and the next morning she was worse so they took her back in and she ended up passing away in the hospital. Ever since then it's a huge worry for me but at the same time, we are so lucky to have vaccines. Look at what happened with the measles thing. What if that were polio or something even worse coming back?
Since I know cases like my friends are extremely rare, I'll do it... But I'll certainly be nervous when the time comes
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One thing that helped ease my mind when I was doing the research was that the ingredients that are used are negligible. Aluminum, for example, is something like 4.4 milligrams in the first 6 months - they get more than that in their diet alone.
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I don't know if that was towards me or not but my fears comes from the fact that when my husband was younger his mom said she took him in for his shots and he broke out on his arm when she took him to the doctor they couldn't determine what the issue was. So instead of saying oh ok maybe it's just a chance I rather be safe....so yeah
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And great it's a minor reaction but it's still one. I rather know ok my child got these two shots today and he had a break out or worse and than going in and like fuck they got 5 shots today which one caused this and we have a long list of ingredients to look at. I just rather be safe. I highly doubt me spacing 4 shots over 2 weeks is going to hurt my child.
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I strongly recommend that you appropriately research delaying vaccines since based on your last sentence it is clear you have not.
But at the end of the day that's how I feel and if my child finishes their shots at 5 years old and 3 weeks instead of 5 years on the dot I have no problem with that.
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According to the doctor who I talked to about it he stated that a delaying vaccinations means or spacing them out or putting them off for longer. Any time that you push back a vaccine is considered as delaying it. So if instead of getting 5 months shots at 5 months you get it at 6 months it's considered as delayed. He also said there is no set delayed schedule people just like to go by a schedule they found online or believe is good enough
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Beyond common sense, that was a massive indicator to how important it is. I firmly believe medical professions are (much) more knowledgable than I am, and their strong views definitely reassured DH and me!