February 2016 Moms

You may have a definition.

graceinchaosgraceinchaos member
edited August 2015 in February 2016 Moms
So, I've noticed a lot of newcomers throwing around very strong words in regards to regs redirecting their posts, etc. When I see the words some of these people are choosing, it makes me sad, and if I'm honest, a little more than a little irritated. The women I have directly encountered on this board have been nothing short of WONDERFUL (etc, etc ;) ) It bothers me when people try to say otherwise.

So, for your pleasure and convenience...below is a list of the commonly offensive words that you may need to rethink when using them in a sentence. 


bully - a blustering, quarrelsome, overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates smaller or weaker people.

bullying - to intimidate, domineer

harass/harassing - to disturb persistently; torment, as with troubles or cares; bother continually; pester; persecute

harassment - the act or instance of harassing; or disturbing, pestering, or troubling repeatedly; persecution

(Did I miss any??)

***It is worth noting, these are the words that, when used incorrectly, drive regs & folks like me (attempting to be a reg...do people like me get a name?) CRAZY.


It seems a few of the newcomers feel intimidated by regs. A couple things to remember...there are pinned posts at the top of this board for a reason. Those posts are not to intimidate you, or anything like that. They are there to help YOU understand how this board works. If reading those posts still leaves you wondering what this board is like, take a minute and read through some of the posts (this is what we mean when we say lurk). This board has so many wonderful women on it, and it's fun to go through pregnancy with them by your side. They are great for a laugh, immediate to support, and helpful when the need arises. When someone redirects your post regarding things like ultrasounds, movement, bumps, etc. it's not because they are harassing you or bullying you. (If you reread those definitions above, you'll see what I mean there.) Regs discourage repeat threads because it buries other posts that don't have specific threads already dedicated to those topics. 

That's all I have to say about that for now. So newcomers, we welcome you, but don't call us bullies or tell us we are harassing you for simple redirection, etc.

ETA:

A few more things that I kind of forgot about, in my excitement to post this...
  • Gender vs Sex - just don't. Or if you do, let's get this straight now, so we can avoid repeated discussions on the topic. Gender = a choice, your own personal identification. Sex = biological. @acuteangles put it so simply & in such understanding terms that I'm going to copy what she said right here. "I think there is such an important distinction here that is worth recognizing.  By using sex (biological) and gender (personal identification) interchangeably, we are implying that they are one in the same, and that you are defined by your biology, which we know is not true.  There are countless ways to be a human being and express yourself.  Gender is not binary." 
  • Honesty, expressing your opinion, stating scientific facts is NOT rudeness. When you enter a forum, and post anything, you're opening up a discussion. If you don't want real input, you may want to reconsider posting. (See above re: lurking, knowing when to post, etc.)

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  • @DrillSergeantCat is it bad that I immediately gave you a lovetit for that?

    (Ps love the new username :)) )

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    "Once you are Real you can't become unreal again.  It lasts for always." 
    || The Velveteen Rabbit ||

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    >>We are Team Pink!<<

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  • @brushesnbrunch Yes. 1000x yes.

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    "Once you are Real you can't become unreal again.  It lasts for always." 
    || The Velveteen Rabbit ||

    >>> BFP 6.6.15, Rainbow due 2.6.15! <<<
    >>We are Team Pink!<<

    I write over at Grace In Chaos.
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  • This totally popped into my head as I was reading this lol

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    This is so me right now...LOL

    Probably doesn't help that I'm a mildly hot-headed Sicilian. :D

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    Emmett Austin Langford, born sleeping 2.25.15

    "Once you are Real you can't become unreal again.  It lasts for always." 
    || The Velveteen Rabbit ||

    >>> BFP 6.6.15, Rainbow due 2.6.15! <<<
    >>We are Team Pink!<<

    I write over at Grace In Chaos.
  • I lurk on this board everyday and wish I was more of talker because I think there is a great group of ladies on here. Kudos to all the regulars that provide all the helpful information on here! @DrillSergeantCat I love your name change!
    Thanks! Don't be a stranger! Join in!

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  • AdventureMamaAdventureMama member
    edited August 2015
    Where's my slow clap GIF?? Very good summary, @graceinchaos!

    Edit typo
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  • Yes!! Love tits everywhere.
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  • I'm going to update the original post with the suggestions listed! Keep em coming :) 

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    Emmett Austin Langford, born sleeping 2.25.15

    "Once you are Real you can't become unreal again.  It lasts for always." 
    || The Velveteen Rabbit ||

    >>> BFP 6.6.15, Rainbow due 2.6.15! <<<
    >>We are Team Pink!<<

    I write over at Grace In Chaos.
  • @graceinchaos well said! ❤️️
  • @graceinchaos is my new favorite.
  • Yes!!! To everything you said!!!
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  • cantobean said:
    @graceinchaos is my new favorite.
    Uhhh jealous...
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    cantobean said:

    @graceinchaos is my new favorite.

    Uhhh jealous...
    I'm JK I love ya'll equally!

    I tell my high school students that I don't have favorites, I hate them all equally. It usually gets a laugh or two.
    ;)

    I tell the agents on my team that I have a new favorite whenever one of them does something really awesome or gives me food haha
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  • MrsJ2522MrsJ2522 member
    edited August 2015
    This post is everything that is right in the world!! Thanks @graceinchaos
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  • geojam224 said:
    Can I add gender v. sex? Don't go there?
    I know, I think there is such an important distinction here that is worth recognizing.  By using sex (biological) and gender (personal identification) interchangeably, we are implying that they are one in the same, and that you are defined by your biology, which we know is not true.  There are countless ways to be a human being and express yourself.  Gender is not binary.

    It's OK to not know the difference, but it's NOT OK to disregard it after you've learned.  I've corrected my mom innumerable times on this, and I will continue to do so.   And sorry guys, this is probably not the last you'll hear from me on this topic!


    I'm sure I'm wrong and I'm not trying to offend but to me it makes no difference because whether you are gay or straight to me we are the same and I got this from my cousin he always says I'm not the gay cousin I'm the guy cousin who is in love with and happily engaged to another guy so in my family sex & gender are the same and we love each other regardless of our sexual orientation and we were thought that if you don't agree with someone you love you simply don't comment the last thing you want to do is hurt someone's feelings.

  • I know, I think there is such an important distinction here that is worth recognizing.  By using sex (biological) and gender (personal identification) interchangeably, we are implying that they are one in the same, and that you are defined by your biology, which we know is not true.  There are countless ways to be a human being and express yourself.  Gender is not binary.

    It's OK to not know the difference, but it's NOT OK to disregard it after you've learned.  I've corrected my mom innumerable times on this, and I will continue to do so.   And sorry guys, this is probably not the last you'll hear from me on this topic!


    I'm sure I'm wrong and I'm not trying to offend but to me it makes no difference because whether you are gay or straight to me we are the same and I got this from my cousin he always says I'm not the gay cousin I'm the guy cousin who is in love with and happily engaged to another guy so in my family sex & gender are the same and we love each other regardless of our sexual orientation and we were thought that if you don't agree with someone you love you simply don't comment the last thing you want to do is hurt someone's feelings.

    Hetero/Homo-sexuality is not the same as gender issues. Gender issues are someone born one biological sex, but identifies with the opposite sex or both sexes or neither sex. That's why sex vs. gender is a big deal.

    Couldn't have said it better myself.

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  • I'm confused... The definition of gender says "either the male or female division of a species".

    Male: a person bearing an X and Y chromosome pair in the cell nuclei and normally having a penis, scrotum, and testicles, and developing hair on the face at adolescence; a boy or man.

    Female: a person bearing two X chromosomes in the cell nuclei and normally having a vagina, a uterus and ovaries, and developing at puberty a relatively rounded body and enlarged breasts, and retaining a beardless face; a girl or woman.

    If my baby is a male, that will be his gender, if a female, that will be her gender. Did I miss something here?
  • middy411 said:
    I'm confused... The definition of gender says "either the male or female division of a species". Male: a person bearing an X and Y chromosome pair in the cell nuclei and normally having a penis, scrotum, and testicles, and developing hair on the face at adolescence; a boy or man. Female: a person bearing two X chromosomes in the cell nuclei and normally having a vagina, a uterus and ovaries, and developing at puberty a relatively rounded body and enlarged breasts, and retaining a beardless face; a girl or woman. If my baby is a male, that will be his gender, if a female, that will be her gender. Did I miss something here?
    Are you going by a dictionary definition? Because if so, it has been updated to a more modern times definition..
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  • AdventureMamaAdventureMama member
    edited August 2015
    middy411 said: I'm confused... The definition of gender says "either the male or female division of a species". Male: a person bearing an X and Y chromosome pair in the cell nuclei and normally having a penis, scrotum, and testicles, and developing hair on the face at adolescence; a boy or man. Female: a person bearing two X chromosomes in the cell nuclei and normally having a vagina, a uterus and ovaries, and developing at puberty a relatively rounded body and enlarged breasts, and retaining a beardless face; a girl or woman. If my baby is a male, that will be his gender, if a female, that will be her gender. Did I miss something here?
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    Not necessarily. That's why it's important to be aware and respectful of the terminology. Some people are born with sex traits of a man but identify as a woman (gender), and vice versa. While probably
    most people's sex and gender are the same (I don't know the exact statistics, I'm sorry), a lot of people feel that theirs aren't, and people purposefully conflating the two terms can be very marginalizing.
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  • Wow. I honestly haven't heard about any of that until just now. I like the idea of sex and gender being different but I also can understand why it would be so confusing and get called the same thing. If you think about it for the most part you grow up hearing that the sex or gender of something or someone is the same thing. It's nice that now things are different and more people are realizing the difference in what a person is born as vs what they identify as but you can't necessarily expect everyone to use each word differently after so many years of knowing them as the same thing. You can't make anyone change except yourself. That being said I'm not saying that its right to tell someone they aren't a girl cuz they were biologically a boy or vise versa either. I just think that analyzing a couple of words so intensely is going to create arguments. So as for me I'll try to be sure not to use the wrong term when I find out the sex of my baby and I'm sorry if I make a mistake.
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