I feel like the issue with the flag is distracting everyone from the real issue, which is gun control. I wish that there could be some sort of psych exam required before getting a gun permit. This young man was obviously unstable and shouldn't have been allowed to purchase a weapon. My heart goes out to the families of the victims.
I feel like the issue with the flag is distracting everyone from the real issue, which is gun control. I wish that there could be some sort of psych exam required before getting a gun permit. This young man was obviously unstable and shouldn't have been allowed to purchase a weapon. My heart goes out to the families of the victims.
I haven't followed the story completely but I thought his dad bought him the gun for his birthday? Not saying I disagree with you, just not sure if that would have prevented anything in this case.
Some people understand what it stands for, some make it a point to be about race. Here are a few very famous rappers who understand. If you think it's all about race, you're only adding to the problem.
Some people understand what it stands for, some make it a point to be about race. Here are a few very famous rappers who understand. If you think it's all about race, you're only adding to the problem.
To throw a wrench on the topic, I'm black and grew up in Louisiana and saw my fair share of confederate flags. When I was younger, I truly felt it was a sign of southern pride. I don't know if it's what I was taught in school or because my friends and friends of my parents sometimes had one, but In my eyes, it wasn't THE indicator of a racist person.
When I moved to Ohio, and I saw the same flag, to me, it meant hate.
There's way too much ambiguity in its meaning (either via ignorance or otherwise) that it was a smart decision to take it down.
Some people understand what it stands for, some make it a point to be about race. Here are a few very famous rappers who understand. If you think it's all about race, you're only adding to the problem.
Did you really try to prove a point using rappers? Sigh.
Why does it bother you that they are rappers? SMH. They are very popular people in the black community with thousands of followers. They go on stage in front of thousands of people and represent the flag, as African Americans. If it is so racist why would they flaunt it? @Pontot31
@hacharles I never said we are past racism. If you tell someone they are disabled and will be treated disabled and they should get used to being worse off because they are forever disabled and generations have always been the victim of prejudice against disability, and people who have "non disabled privilege" will always win out, they what do you expect from that person? Or you could tell them that while others before have struggled being disabled and still do, but that disability does not define you, and you can do whatever you set your mind to an exceed expectations, even though you may struggle at times, you can control your ultimate path, I'd expect better results. That's not denying the past or present, but it's not facilitating a crutch either.
This touches on @parisiennemom 's point as well. Again, my experience, which may differ from yours, for a variety of reasons, has presented people who teach their children to hate for racist reasons, but it's not considered as egregious, as they have and their family members have experienced racism for years and years and years. And perpetuated the above mindset I've described. My point is to that it is a two way street (sin is sin essentially) and you can either teach differently and expect differently, or allow the stereotypes to continue because that's the unfortunate path your predecessors have had to endure.
Rest assured I was not directing my comment at you. Sorry if I used the quote function incorrectly
Sorry @hacharles , that was my bad, I think it was actually in response to @lalala2004 now that I'm looking back through it
Why does it bother you that they are rappers? SMH. They are very popular people in the black community with thousands of followers. They go on stage in front of thousands of people and represent the flag, as African Americans. If it is so racist why would they flaunt it? @Pontot31
It is about what you make it
I encourage to actually look up what you're talking about. Are you seriously using Kanye West as a means to defend your argument? I'm totally going to take that seriously.
I personally do not like Kanye West but you can't deny his influence in rap. @rbradshaw77. Plus he is not the only one pictured.
Just wanted people to open their eyes a little and think for themselves. Not everyone, and especially not every Africa American is offended by the flag. That is all. Have a good day ladies.
I personally do not like Kanye West but you can't deny his influence in rap. @rbradshaw77. Plus he is not the only one pictured.
Just wanted people to open their eyes a little and think for themselves. Not everyone, and especially not every Africa American is offended by the flag. That is all. Have a good day ladies.
As someone that lives in South Carolina, I can promise you that I'm well informed on every side of this story. BUT seriously, Kanye West?
Why does it bother you that they are rappers? SMH. They are very popular people in the black community with thousands of followers. They go on stage in front of thousands of people and represent the flag, as African Americans. If it is so racist why would they flaunt it? @Pontot31
It is about what you make it
They are wearing it in order to own it and take back the true meaning. You don't know that they aren't bothered by it. This had become a pretty intelligent adult conversation until now.
I personally do not like Kanye West but you can't deny his influence in rap. @rbradshaw77. Plus he is not the only one pictured.
Just wanted people to open their eyes a little and think for themselves. Not everyone, and especially not every Africa American is offended by the flag. That is all. Have a good day ladies.
And who wasn't thinking for themselves? I think the one who had to find pictures of other people to try and make a very weak point.
Why does it bother you that they are rappers? SMH. They are very popular people in the black community with thousands of followers. They go on stage in front of thousands of people and represent the flag, as African Americans. If it is so racist why would they flaunt it? @Pontot31
It is about what you make it
They are wearing it in order to own it and take back the true meaning. You don't know that they aren't bothered by it.
This had become a pretty intelligent adult conversation until now.
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Exactly this, if you look into interviews with Kanye West and Ludacris, they explain that to them, the flag does represent slavery and racism but it's about taking it back. Ludacris wore it briefly on stage only to rip it off and then stomp all over it.
I personally do not like Kanye West but you can't deny his influence in rap. @rbradshaw77. Plus he is not the only one pictured.
Just wanted people to open their eyes a little and think for themselves. Not everyone, and especially not every Africa American is offended by the flag. That is all. Have a good day ladies.
I think the only person living with their head in a hole, is you. You actually consider a picture of a few rappers with a confederate flag proof that it is totally fine and not viewed as representing hate?!?! You have not at all considered the context in which it was done. I'm pretty sure my 9 y.o brother could see how illogical this argument was.
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When I moved to Ohio, and I saw the same flag, to me, it meant hate.
There's way too much ambiguity in its meaning (either via ignorance or otherwise) that it was a smart decision to take it down.
It is about what you make it
That's sarcasm in case you didn't catch on.
Plus he is not the only one pictured.
Just wanted people to open their eyes a little and think for themselves. Not everyone, and especially not every Africa American is offended by the flag. That is all. Have a good day ladies.
This had become a pretty intelligent adult conversation until now.
I'm pretty sure my 9 y.o brother could see how illogical this argument was.
Does that mean it's okay?