December 2015 Moms

Breastfeeding vs. Bottle feeding

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Re: Breastfeeding vs. Bottle feeding

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  • @sassyfrass321 I am in the same situation as you. I am a FTM and I don't know which one I want to do. There are several pros and cons for each one. I am
    Glad one of my best friends recently had a baby so she could be completely honest about it. She exclusively pumps and bottle feeds. The biggest reason BF isn't for me is because when I go back to work, I won't be able to pump. Apparently you will need to pump or it is painful. I am a teacher and legally your employer must allow you time to do it. People can say what they want, but I can't even find coverage when I need to pee. I can't imagine if it were something that we're painful.

    I don't think it makes you any less of a mom for formula feeding. Do whatever you think is best and own your decision. It will make you less stressed about it.
  • Being a first time mom can be scary. But you will be wonderful and you will figure it out. Unfortunately this is one of those hot topics that people just don't know how to respond without letting their mouth override their a**. Obviously we all know that breastfeeding is best. But if you choose not to do it it doesn't mean your child will be less healthier or less smarter. First I would say take some lactation classes and learn all you can about it. And the nurses in the hospital are usually very helpful with helping you and baby be comfortable. I totally feel the same way as you do about nursing in public for those that do good for you I personally don't care for it and won't be doing it. There are some options. This will be my third child. I plan on trying to nurse but my first wouldn't latch on she sucked the room of her mouth with her tongue And even with the help of a lactation nurse we couldn't get her to latch on. I had to pump with her and feed her formula I did not produce enough milk I pumped every 2-3 hours for 1-2oz of milk to give her bc I felt like I should. I did this for 9 months. She didn't seem to mind having formula sometimes and breastmilk the other times. My second had low blood sugar when she was born so they immediately gave her formula as soon as she came out. Had the same issues didn't produce enough milk pumped and gave her formula for 6 months. I didn't feel that either was painful feels a little strange but not painful. I will tell you that you may want to try at least to pump in beginning bc when you do engorge that is very uncomfortable if you are unable to relieve the pressure. When getting a pump it is best to talk to a lactation consultant about what type to buy there are many out there that are not very good. I bought the models pump n style. Also I don't know how insurance is with covering breast pumps when I had them it was not an option but you could rent one and then that way if you find out or decide you can't or don't want to do it then you have blown 200-300 dollars. All that being said you have to make your own decision and what you feel comfortable with everyone has there own opinions be it some as rude as they are. I would suggest at least try it when you are in the hospital if you are not totally against it so you can have some help. For those of you who are first time moms breast feeding is not as easy and just sticking baby to your beeast and that's it it can be very challenging and upsetting when your in hospital and can't get baby to latch on and the. As a mother you are devestated by trying to decide if baby is not getting anything from you and their hungry what to do I personally say pop open that bottle of formula and do what feels right for your baby as a mom. To OP I mean this with the utmost sincererity you will get over being modest when you have that baby ain't nothing private in that's delivery room lol but at that point you probably will only care about meeting your little one. As I said do what you feel comfortable with and you will figure it out And be a great mom.
  • Damn, the judgmental mommies are out in full force! Your kid will be fine and probably great no matter if you breastfeed or bottle feed - it isn't going to cost them the Presidency because of it.

    Some of you ladies are aggressive today!

    Mom shaming is no joke....
  • Do what you are comfortable with. Some people may judge you but only those close to you will even know about it. The people I know in real life are much less judgemental than internet strangers;) I am much more interested in the emotional well-being of my future children when I think about priorities & being as stress-free as possible will most likely directly contribute to that. Self-care is not selfish.

    That being said, I think I'll try breastfeeding but I'm not worried if it doesn't work out & don't think it's a big deal if someone chooses not to. I've seen babies and toddlers being fed soda & fries for every meal. I imagine that's probably worse...

    Good luck!
  • I'm just going to leave this here:

    Breast-feeding Benefits Appear to be Overstated, According to Study of Siblings

    https://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/sibbreast.htm

    YES!!!!!! =D>
  • I skipped through most of these comments after reading a shaming/ignorant one but I will say I everyone has to do what is best for them and their family. I will try my hardest to breastfeed but if I cannot, I don not want to feel any "less of a mother/woman" for not breastfeeding my child. 
    Due 11.16.17
    Baby Girl 12.9.15
    MC 2.1.15 @ 5 W - Chemical
    MC 4.7.14 @ 21 W - Turners Syndrome

  • LC122 said:
    Actually, the research does say that a formula fed baby will grow up to be less smart than a breastfed baby. Or rather, it says that breastfed babies will be smarter than formula fed babies. **also, it's less healthy and less smart, not "less healthier and smarter"**
    You serious with this? Talk about mom shaming to the extreme.
  • OP, you do what is best for you. Period. It doesn't matter what anyone else does or thinks, because it has no bearing on your personal situation or circumstances. At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is if your child is fed.
  • Someone else may have also brought this up and I apologize if it's already in the conversation (I haven't quite read through everything yet). What about people who choose not to breastfeed for their own health benefit? ie. someone with anxiety or depression who needs to be on meds but can't be if baby is BFing? 

    Is that considered selfish for not putting baby's health first? Is that considered "allowed" in the eyes of those who judge women who choose not to breastfeed? Or is this considered "okay" in their eyes because it's a legitimate reason and not just being "lazy"?

    And what about women who choose not to breastfeed because they don't want to but choose to use a breastmilk donor (many organizations that do this). It doesn't work for their schedule to pump and BF but they still provide breastmilk for their baby. How are those women viewed?

    PS. I should note that I think all this judgment is a load of bull and people need to mind their own business but if people are going to MAKE it their business, I'd love to know what they think about these types of situations.
    Sorry, I'm rapid fire posting, but mom shaming brings that out in me. This was me exactly. Breastfeeding shot me even deeper into PPA. I wasn't eating, drinking, or sleeping. But that would have TOTALLY been better for my baby.
  • The smart thing is killing me here. Nobody cares that you were formula fed and a genius. No one is saying that breastfeeding gives you standard deviations worth of IQ points. Nobody formula-fed can go back and find out of breastfeeding would have made them anything more than they already are. And should anyone really be choosing to breastfeed or not based on an IQ point or two?

    There are other benefits though, immunities over time, etc. (I'd like to see more research re: asthma, allergies, auto-immune disorders) and those can't be discounted.

    For the rest, I default to the PP above me. She said it way better than I could.
  • LC122LC122 member

    The smart thing is killing me here. Nobody cares that you were formula fed and a genius. No one is saying that breastfeeding gives you standard deviations worth of IQ points. Nobody formula-fed can go back and find out of breastfeeding would have made them anything more than they already are. And should anyone really be choosing to breastfeed or not based on an IQ point or two?


    There are other benefits though, immunities over time, etc. (I'd like to see more research re: asthma, allergies, auto-immune disorders) and those can't be discounted.

    For the rest, I default to the PP above me. She said it way better than I could.
    The article posted about the differences being less significant still found a significant difference regarding asthma.
    It was an interesting article but fell short of explaining the "why" of the differences. In families in which one child was breastfed and another was not, it did not account for why. It did mention socioeconomic factors and education factors, which are major contributors across the board. Those with the resources and education to know better are more likely to do better.

    Agree on the smart point as well. No number of anecdotes on this board is going to convince me of anything different than what research supports. And it's research, not "research". Putting it in quotes doesn't make it any less legit. It is a numbers issue.
    Research also says that those who attend college are more likely to earn more over their lifetime. No number of "Bill Gates dropped out of college" stories would ever convince me that there isn't a numerical advantage to higher education.
  • I'm leaning toward pumping and bottle feeding breast milk. I want my husband to be able to help out with feedings and I'll be going back to work after 8 weeks, so LO is going to have to be bottle fed eventually.

    OP - would you feel more comfortable pumping and bottle feeding?
  • Thats my opinion ! I dont expect people to agree with me at all. If you think I was rude well then dont ask for opinion if you cant handle diffrent points of view. I know whats best for my child. Everyone just calm down. i have better things to do Bye!
  • LC122LC122 member
    No one said anyone doesn't know what's right for their (unborn) child. The OP asked 2 questions:
    1) "Is that bad?" "That" being just not wanting to breastfeed, even though you know it's better, healthier, cheaper, etc.
    2) "What is your experience?"

    For the most part, people were very pro-breastfeeding in sharing their experiences. In most cases where someone chose to formula feed, there was a reason why. I think in only one case was the reason just not wanting to. And I differentiate between not wanting to "just because" and not wanting to because it was painful, it kept you from taking medication, you had to go back to work and didn't have a supportive environment for pumping, etc. All of those are reasons, the degree of legitimacy of which can be debated in a thread sometime in 2016.

    The fact of the matter is that breastmilk is just better than formula. Just like broccoli is better than French fries. You can come up with any number of reasons to choose the less healthy option over the healthier one, but that doesn't change the nutrition information. Nor will anyone die (with rare exception) for choosing the less healthy option. It is just the less healthy option.

    Here is some objective information about breastfeeding and formula feeding.
    https://www.m.webmd.com/baby/breastfeeding-vs-formula-feeding

    The personal attacks really don't contribute to the conversation. And trying to empower someone to feel capable of breastfeeding (as @afresneda 's original post did) is very different from shaming someone for formula feeding.
    Many formula feeders are very sensitive about their decision and will read "shaming" into something that said no such thing.
  • LC122LC122 member
    It was a comparison. Formula has nothing COMPARED to what breastmilk can offer naturally. And depending on what components you're talking about, that can be true.

    And since OP was asking if it was bad to do formula just because she wanted to even though she knows breastmilk is the better choice, her opinion was that it would be selfish to do so.

    The empowerment came from the "you are going to give birth, come on" part. As in, if you are capable of giving birth, you can do anything.
  • LC122LC122 member
    @Ken122014 , the difference between a personal attack and giving an opinion asked is the intent. I said nothing about the OP personally. Do I think it is selfish to choose formula "just because you don't want to breastfeed"? Yes, especially when you know all the benefits of breastmilk and you choose to ignore them. Let me rewrite that to make it more clear for you. Yes, I think it is SELFish when You (yourSELF) choose formula even though You (yourSELF) know the benefits of breastmilk and You (yourSELF) choose to ignore them. The proverbial You, of course, but also in response to the question posited by OP. She hasn't had the baby yet, so all the other factors that might contribute to someone choosing not to breastfeed don't apply here.

    @nik6499 , since what you're calling shaming is "making another [womAn] feel bad about making the best choice she can for her and her baby", your point doesn't apply here. The situation described by the OP wasn't "making the best choice she can for her and her baby" it was simply making the choice she wanted, in fact, with complete disregard for what is best for her baby.
  • At this point though, OP has no experience with breastfeeding and if she gives it a try she might find out it's a wonderful bonding experience that connects her even more with her child. She might not, but at this point, we don't know. At this point, I would encourage her to give breastfeeding a try, and sometimes overcoming breastfeeding obstacles can make you feel good too (in my case a tongue tie and lip tie that caused a bad latch which turned great just a month later).
  • I was going to stay out of this until a comment about the FDA regulating formula.

    Just because the FDA regulates something does NOT make it safe. Look at red dye 40. It was initially approved for use in makeup and further testing linked it to cancer in the animals it was tested on which caused it to be banned in all makeup products. The SAME red dye 40 is still used in food that humans consume on a daily basis.

    This can also be said about multiple diet supplements, medications, and food additives. They are approved and then later pulled from products.

    To say the FDA regulates formula DOES NOT mean it is safe for consumption. I'm not saying that it isn't safe for or anything like that but I AM saying that the FDA does approve things that hurt people.

    It's important to know what you are putting in your body and your baby's. That means that you shouldn't take the FDA approval as law, you should take it with a grain of salt like everything else in this world.

    Be an informed consumer! Not all formulas are created equal!

    Kylie M.

    Baby #1 Born 12.16.2015

    Baby #2 Due 7.13.2018



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