September 2015 Moms

Why I will be a working mother

eah325eah325 member
edited June 2015 in September 2015 Moms
I'm choosing to work after baby because it's the best thing for my family and me. It's the best for us for a variety of reasons, including the fact that I'm a highly educated woman who earned a doctorate and now serves as the CEO of an 800 person organization. I have worked very hard to achieve these things.

I choose to work because I believe working will serve as a good role model to my child that the work of her mother outside the home is just as valuable as the work of her father. I also believe in modeling shared responsibilities at home so my child knows she's just as capable of making a meal as she is mowing the yard because my husband and I share in all work responsibility at home.

I choose to work because I want to save enough money to give my child what I view to be one of the greatest gifts of all- a free college education.

The list of reasons for me goes on and on, but I felt I would share a few to offer an alternative perspective.

I respect the choice of women who stay-at-home. That is very important and valuable work, but so is the work that those of us who choose to continue to work do.

EDIT: Clearly, my intent is missed because some have read my post to be a negative one which I didn't intend. I was trying to give background information as to why I was beginning a new post and also why I hadn't commented on previous posts of a similar nature. In an effort instead to focus on the positives for people who want to make a different (but by no means better) choice, I have edited this topic so we can have a thoughtful discussion.
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  • eah325eah325 member
    @WDDCH pleasr
    WDDCH said:

    Starting a defensive post to try to take a stab at the other is quite contrary to your statement about not starting a mommy war. Perhaps you could have started this wonderful topic without taking a stab at the post about moms who choose to do something else. No one was attacking working mothers, merely discussing their own hopes and dreams about doing something different! That entire thread was NOT bashing working mothers!

    I hope you'll reconsider what I wrote, specifically "I have to admit that I get frustrated reading the posts about women who choose to be stay-at-home moms because of some of the blanket statements made about how it's the best choice for your child, etc"

    I'm frustrated by SOME of the statements. Clearly, I recognize that not everyone on that post or the several other posts about SAHMs are attacking working mothers. I chose to start a new post explaining why I planned to work. If you don't want to participate in my post in a kind and thoughtful way, you don't have to. I didn't attack anyone nor did I try to start any sort of mommy wars.
  • eah325eah325 member
    amylou512 said:

    And let's not forget the moms who simply must work in order to stay afloat. For some, there isn't a choice at all.

    That's a great point. I wish all women had the opportunity to pick the path that was best for them and their family. We all have different hopes and dreams but sometimes our circumstances don't allow us to pursue them.
  • eah325eah325 member
    ktewart said:

    I've actually run into the opposite problem, believe it or not. I'm not sure if it's a regional thing (New England) or just the people I'm around most often (college educated, upper middle class, etc.), but when I express my husband's and my desire to have me be a stay at home mom (a decision we are making because, for us, it is the decision that works best both financially and with his incredibly unpredictable and unstable military schedule), I run into statements like "Yes...but don't you want to be a productive member of society?" and "You'll change your mind once you realize how hard it is".

    In my life, the norm is actually the working mother, and I have all the respect in the world for the ones who can make it work, for all of the amazing reasons you have just outlined so eloquently. But it makes it awfully uncomfortable sometimes, feeling like I constantly have to justify our choice to people who think that I am either being lazy, selling myself short, or not contributing in the right way to society. It can be frustrating, embarrassing, and infuriating.

    I think the issue highlights the judgemental society in which we all exist, especially as women, rather than any particular scorn for one choice or the other.

    Thanks for that perspective. I hadn't considered that one before but it makes perfect sense because it seems like women are particularly hard on the choices of other women. I think it's great that you're following your heart and doing what's best for you and your family. I wish you the best!
  • eah325eah325 member

    Both of my sisters choose to work because they have important jobs that they love and worked very hard for. They also don't want to stay home with their children because they don't have the patience for it. Everyone is different and makes different decisions when it comes to raising their children. There is no right or wrong way when it comes to working moms or stay at home moms.

    Couldn't agree with you more. I was simply trying to articulate my reasons in my post which I believe you understood. I felt like outlining mine on a post about people who want to be stay-at-home moms would seem confrontational which is exactly what I was trying to avoid. We all have excellent reasons for the choices we are making for our families, and I hope we can all respect them. Thank you for your post.
  • @eah325 why do posts about moms doing what's best for their family frustrate you?
  • eah325eah325 member
    edited June 2015

    @eah325 why do posts about moms doing what's best for their family frustrate you?

    The tone of some of the posts on this topic are very demeaning towards people who choose something different.
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    eah325 said:

    @WDDCH pleasr

    WDDCH said:

    Starting a defensive post to try to take a stab at the other is quite contrary to your statement about not starting a mommy war. Perhaps you could have started this wonderful topic without taking a stab at the post about moms who choose to do something else. No one was attacking working mothers, merely discussing their own hopes and dreams about doing something different! That entire thread was NOT bashing working mothers!

    I hope you'll reconsider what I wrote, specifically "I have to admit that I get frustrated reading the posts about women who choose to be stay-at-home moms because of some of the blanket statements made about how it's the best choice for your child, etc"

    I'm frustrated by SOME of the statements. Clearly, I recognize that not everyone on that post or the several other posts about SAHMs are attacking working mothers. I chose to start a new post explaining why I planned to work. If you don't want to participate in my post in a kind and thoughtful way, you don't have to. I didn't attack anyone nor did I try to start any sort of mommy wars.
    Thank you for clarifying. I understand your intent now. I personally have a very high respect for mommas who work and I hope you find many of us feel that way. Don't let the few naysayers outweigh the many who respect what you do.
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    Thanks @WDDCH . I think it's wonderful that you're able to combine your two dreams of education and motherhood into one by homeschooling your children. It sounds like a very rewarding life!
  • Kudos to you! I really disliked being a working mom, but I wasn't high up and made very little money for the amount of work and time I put in so it didn't feel worth it to me.
    I'm glad you know what you want to do and I respect your decision. It's not the life for me (though I will more than likely have to do it again) but I wouldn't ever look down on someone for doing so.
  • I will be returning to work full time as well, and I appreciate your post on this! We could get by if I stayed home, or if he stayed home, but we both enjoy working and the security of two incomes, especially since my husband's income is variable - he's a general contractor. I think my choice to work (and my husband's choice to work) after the baby comes is best for us. I also get tired of the idea that mom staying home is "best" for baby.
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  • eah325 said:

    @eah325 why do posts about moms doing what's best for their family frustrate you?

    The tone of some of the posts on this topic are very demeaning towards people who choose something different.
    I understand what you are saying. There seems to be a trend in general of people demeaning others because their choices don't align with theirs. A SAHM is no better a mom because she stays home and a working mom is no better a mom because she works. My mom did both throughout my childhood and she was a great mom no matter what! As long as we love our kids and provide them with the best care we can I think we're all great moms!
  • I would frigging LOVE to be a SAHM, but between us moms, I have a better job than my DH. Right now, I'm the bread winner, and will continue to be. I can only dream of being able to NOT go back to work, stay at home with my child, and home school (we'll be home schooling regardless..daddy will teach them.) But, with that being said, I do actually like my job. I love the sense of accomplishment I get from being an operations manager, and having the answers people need. I would miss it if I had to stay at home with baby girl. I didn't see your post as a negative (maybe because I didn't read the SAHM thread) but more so empowered. I feel the same way, but I also have dreams of being a SAHM. Maybe one day I'll get that, but this being my 1st baby, me bringing home all the bacon, and all the other stressors I have in my life right now, we can't afford it, and it would be unfair to ask that of my family. Like I said, maybe one day, but not this year, not next year, but who knows. DH will be the SAHD, taking care of baby, and doing side jobs and what not to bring in a little extra cash here and there. It's going to be hard, but my mom worked full time, and my dad stayed home. I respect both of them soooo much for doing what they did for us. I couldn't think of a better way to show them respect than to follow in their (not exact) footsteps.
  • As much as I love my job I would so much rather have the freedom to stay at home until my baby (and future babies) start school. My husband and I make almost the same amount of money and it would be a real struggle to cut our income in half. Plus with my job, if you stop working for a long period of time it becomes nearly impossible to get hired again so I'd probably never get to work in my career field again. Being a working mom vs a stay at home is a personal choice and I think it's sad we feel the need to justify our decisions to anyone. Everyone's situations are different and so are their preferences. Some people have the freedom to choose to be a SAHM vs work, while others get stuck doing the opposite of what they want. Kudos to you op for having the opportunity to choose the thing that makes you happiest.
  • bpv101283bpv101283 member
    edited June 2015
    @eah325 - I don't know why you are getting a hard time for what you wrote. It's very different than some of the downright nasty things said in the who's being a stay at home mom post!

    Not everyone has a job paying minimum wage, I make over 10 times what my daycare costs. Not everyone is away from their kids for 80 hours a week, We are away from mine for 24. So no one else is "raising" my kid but nice try to put others down or something? My husband is not old fashioned but still works a full time job plus works side jobs for extra income. We vacation in Europe and all inclusives, go to the shore. Shop organic without couponing, we are putting money away for college educations and retirement, we are saving for a forever home.... No it never occurred to me that I shouldn't go back to work. The only thing that hurts is when I hear women talking about staying home with their child because they don't want some stranger raising their kid. It stings. I don't want to sacrifice all the things I've worked for my whole life to feel superior on the who is a better mom kick. I just try to ignore it. But it's hard and I don't like that you got attacked for pointing it out.

    ETA - the moms in Canada, the UK, Finland, Germany, Switzerland etc etc and other countries who have a proper maternity leave and actually give a damn about families aren't having this same conversation at the fever pitch that we do in the US for all intents and purposes. It's HARD to leave a baby in someone else's care. It's a hard choice to sacrifice one way or another. I'm just upset right now and passionate about giving parents time to be with their baby. Women have fought hard for the right to work and that comes with sacrifices too. I understand that.
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  • eah325 said:

    I'm choosing to work after baby because it's the best thing for my family and me. It's the best for us for a variety of reasons, including the fact that I'm a highly educated woman who earned a doctorate and now serves as the CEO of an 800 person organization. I have worked very hard to achieve these things.

    I choose to work because I believe working will serve as a good role model to my child that the work of her mother outside the home is just as valuable as the work of her father. I also believe in modeling shared responsibilities at home so my child knows she's just as capable of making a meal as she is mowing the yard because my husband and I share in all work responsibility at home.

    I choose to work because I want to save enough money to give my child what I view to be one of the greatest gifts of all- a free college education.

    The list of reasons for me goes on and on, but I felt I would share a few to offer an alternative perspective.

    I respect the choice of women who stay-at-home. That is very important and valuable work, but so is the work that those of us who choose to continue to work do.

    EDIT: Clearly, my intent is missed because some have read my post to be a negative one which I didn't intend. I was trying to give background information as to why I was beginning a new post and also why I hadn't commented on previous posts of a similar nature. In an effort instead to focus on the positives for people who want to make a different (but by no means better) choice, I have edited this topic so we can have a thoughtful discussion.

    Perhaps the reason you got negative feedback is that the way your post was worded does not leave the reader with any question to answer, or pose a streamlined path of discussion. I ended my reading of it saying "Ok, well, bully for you?" In this type of forum format, one needs to give the community a way to contribute easily to the discussion.

    I am also and educated woman who worked in management of a Fortune 500, JD Power award winning company before my first child.
  • eah325eah325 member
    Peony1982 said:

    eah325 said:

    I'm choosing to work after baby because it's the best thing for my family and me. It's the best for us for a variety of reasons, including the fact that I'm a highly educated woman who earned a doctorate and now serves as the CEO of an 800 person organization. I have worked very hard to achieve these things.

    I choose to work because I believe working will serve as a good role model to my child that the work of her mother outside the home is just as valuable as the work of her father. I also believe in modeling shared responsibilities at home so my child knows she's just as capable of making a meal as she is mowing the yard because my husband and I share in all work responsibility at home.

    I choose to work because I want to save enough money to give my child what I view to be one of the greatest gifts of all- a free college education.

    The list of reasons for me goes on and on, but I felt I would share a few to offer an alternative perspective.

    I respect the choice of women who stay-at-home. That is very important and valuable work, but so is the work that those of us who choose to continue to work do.

    EDIT: Clearly, my intent is missed because some have read my post to be a negative one which I didn't intend. I was trying to give background information as to why I was beginning a new post and also why I hadn't commented on previous posts of a similar nature. In an effort instead to focus on the positives for people who want to make a different (but by no means better) choice, I have edited this topic so we can have a thoughtful discussion.

    Perhaps the reason you got negative feedback is that the way your post was worded does not leave the reader with any question to answer, or pose a streamlined path of discussion. I ended my reading of it saying "Ok, well, bully for you?" In this type of forum format, one needs to give the community a way to contribute easily to the discussion.

    I am also and educated woman who worked in management of a Fortune 500, JD Power award winning company before my first child.
    Given that plenty of women have shared their experiences and choices for why they chose to work or not, I believe the post accomplished what I hoped. I've learned from the experiences of others and believe some have learned from mine.

    I don't start posts very often because it's really not worth the grief you get for posting your opinions or experiences.
  • J0C0TXJ0C0TX member
    edited June 2015
    These posts, whether from the perspective of a working mom or sahm can often be misconstrued an eventually turn into something else... So before it happens here, this is my story.
    I work full time. So does dh. We had conversations about it before we started our family. He wanted to have more than a breadwinner role. He also wanted to have the dad role and not have 100% of the bread winning on his shoulders. It made sense to me and it works for us. If our kids as sick they get both of us and they know it. We back each other up. If he was the only one working outside the home that wouldn't happen. Fact.
    His sister has made all the offensive comments she can about me working- strangers raising my children, could never do that, stuff isn't important (unless she needs it from us). She tries to put me down in any way possible. Her husband is the nicest guy and works all the hours but she focuses a lot on what she doesn't have rather than does.
    Please know I'm only talking about her in my sahm reference - I've another friend who's a sahm to 4, soon 5, homeschool and pretty much rocks it as a human being so my only negative sahm stuff relates to sil, but that's my sil....

    ETA - and it's not changing with 3 kids. It's worth it financially to us to have me work. I carry all our benefits and have a pretty rocking deal all told, But money wasn't the driver - my husbands security (his family went thru bad times when he was in his teens/20s) and feelings about being a dad were the initial driver.
  • Peony1982Peony1982 member
    edited June 2015
    eah325 said:

    Peony1982 said:

    eah325 said:

    I'm choosing to work after baby because it's the best thing for my family and me. It's the best for us for a variety of reasons, including the fact that I'm a highly educated woman who earned a doctorate and now serves as the CEO of an 800 person organization. I have worked very hard to achieve these things.

    I choose to work because I believe working will serve as a good role model to my child that the work of her mother outside the home is just as valuable as the work of her father. I also believe in modeling shared responsibilities at home so my child knows she's just as capable of making a meal as she is mowing the yard because my husband and I share in all work responsibility at home.

    I choose to work because I want to save enough money to give my child what I view to be one of the greatest gifts of all- a free college education.

    The list of reasons for me goes on and on, but I felt I would share a few to offer an alternative perspective.

    I respect the choice of women who stay-at-home. That is very important and valuable work, but so is the work that those of us who choose to continue to work do.

    EDIT: Clearly, my intent is missed because some have read my post to be a negative one which I didn't intend. I was trying to give background information as to why I was beginning a new post and also why I hadn't commented on previous posts of a similar nature. In an effort instead to focus on the positives for people who want to make a different (but by no means better) choice, I have edited this topic so we can have a thoughtful discussion.

    Perhaps the reason you got negative feedback is that the way your post was worded does not leave the reader with any question to answer, or pose a streamlined path of discussion. I ended my reading of it saying "Ok, well, bully for you?" In this type of forum format, one needs to give the community a way to contribute easily to the discussion.

    I am also and educated woman who worked in management of a Fortune 500, JD Power award winning company before my first child.
    Given that plenty of women have shared their experiences and choices for why they chose to work or not, I believe the post accomplished what I hoped. I've learned from the experiences of others and believe some have learned from mine.

    I don't start posts very often because it's really not worth the grief you get for posting your opinions or experiences.
    So then the intent of posting was not to start a dialogue, but to give your opinion as a mission statement and be done? Yep, you are a CEO.

    ETA: you seemed to express displeasure with the "negative" responses. I am simply providing a Potential reason why that was.
  • I must admit I feel pretty lucky, I will get a good balance of work and home life. As a full time worker I only work 30-32 hours a week and get full benefits and an extremely flexible schedule. Love being a massage therapist for Disney!
  • Why does it matter if you're a stay at home mom or not. Who cares..... Do what you want, it's not like it needs to be broadcasted on an Internet forum.
  • ElleMF728ElleMF728 member
    edited June 2015
    sterjacks21 said: Why does it matter if you're a stay at home mom or not. Who cares..... Do what you want, it's not like it needs to be broadcasted on an Internet forum. Nothing needs to be posted on these forums, people post things for support, advice, discussion etc.  I actually think threads like these can be very helpful.  As moms we have a lot of the same difficulties and struggles but working mothers may have challenges that are unique from SAHMs and vice versa.  It can be really beneficial to have a sounding board occasionally.  

    I think a post like this is at least as relevant as posts about names and baby showers.  Its a forum for mothers, they tend to talk about things related to their parenting choices.  

    Edit I dk why my formatting keeps getting messed up. 
  • I'll be returning to work after 4 months of having baby and she'll be staying with my auntie or her godmother for daycare. My husband and I both work and it's crazy because I get side eyes when I tell people I am going to law school next fall. Lol one of my friends said "girl what about your family!" Well being a lawyer is something that I've always wanted, and even though I make a good salary now, it's not what I want. Plus I'm a firm believer in higher education and I believe that women can have it all. Just because I have kids doesn't mean that my life stops.

    Sometimes yes I do wish I could stay home and not work, but if I weren't working I would be in school full time and to be honest, I love my kid and future kid but lord have mercy I need my own life! My family drives me up a wall! Kuddos to stay at home moms, I think it's wonderful that you can give that much of yourself to your families.
  • edited June 2015

    The only thing that bothered me in the STAHM thread, and this is a comment I've seen many times before, is the variations of "it didn't make sense to be paying someone else to raise my kid". I don't know if people realize how terrible that sounds when they say it, but it's a total dick thing to say. Working moms are also raising their children and to imply otherwise is insulting.

    @LouLouLove, while I understand where you are coming from, I think there is a variation of this statement that is not intended to be insulting at all and is simply a very matter of fact statement as to the financial cost of daycare, nannies, and baby sitters. I can see you taking offense at the "raising my kid" part of that statement, but that same statement, if the emphasis is placed on the first half, simply becomes "My income is less than, equal to, or negligibly higher than the cost of child care, so if I am not in love with my job anyway, it makes more sense for me to stay at home at least until my child is old enough to enter school". If I have ever uttered this statement, I assure you, my intent was the express the latter of these two options, with no offense intended or implied.

    There are other reasons that my husband and I are making the decision, together, for me to stay at home with our child, and any other future children we have. These reasons range from the personal (both our mothers were stay at home moms and we both found it valuable and significant growing up), to the financial (I had not broken into a career when my husband and I decided to get pregnant, was making less than 20 thousand a year, did not love it, and my husband is military, meaning frequent moves make holding a career in my field very difficult), to the emotional (again, my husband is military and serves in a branch that has him working very long hours and puts him out to sea on an unpredictable schedule that spans anywhere from 65% to 85% of the year and leaving home often comes with only a week or less of notice - we both feel my staying at home will hopefully provide some stability in that otherwise unstable and unpredictable environment). I hold dual degrees in forensic anthropology and history. When our children are all old enough to be in school (assuming we don't decide to home school), I may pursue working in these fields. However, it takes quite a bit of time to break into those areas and make any sort of money, so for now, finances actually makes more sense in or situation if I stay at home.

    I emphasize, as I did in an earlier post, how much respect I have for the mother able to balance work and family - it is no small task and something to be fiercely proud of. But as so many women have already said in this thread, either choice is a personal one and neither is right or wrong, simply what is right for each individual family. The working mother is the norm where I come from - I struggled mightily with questions of self worth, driven by callous comments from friends, family, and random people I had only just met who question my drive, intelligence, and even my reasons for being with my husband (gold digger and, for any military wives here, the all-encompassing derogatory term "dependa"). It took incredible support from my husband, numerous conversations about what I actually, truly, honestly wanted for myself and or family, and a whole lot of confidence building before I was able to look at people and proudly tell them I was staying at home to raise our children.

    I applaud both choices with fervor, because I know it can often be a difficult decision either way. I sincerely and honestly feel that much of this is driven not by the topic itself, but by the harsh judgment we often shine on other women, as women. Our society condones and even encourages this behavior and it often makes me sad. I actually am glad that discussions like this are started, even though I fall on the other side of the fence in terms of my choice than @eah325 and other working mothers, because it gets us talking about our specific reasoning for leaning the way we do. We could all be better served by being supportive of each other's choices and striving for understanding regarding their reasoning, rather than searching through wording and tone for the implied insult. I know I certainly will continue to strive for that particular virtue, even if I fall short at times.
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  • Interestingly enough, I was talking to a colleague a few years ago about this same subject and she supported her decision to place her children in daycare while she worked because as caretakers were being paid to take care of her children, they were being better kept than she would if she were a SAHM. They are paid to tend, and educate her children, whereas her duties would be split between housework and tending to the kids. The daycare centers often have programs and skilled care takers, whereas SAHM's often have no agenda to their child rearing. So, just because someone is a SAHM, does not imply to me that their child is getting raised better.
  • I liked this artcle quite a bit. It helped me feel like going back to work had incredible benefits (besides that fact that my husband is a realtor and my employer provides our insurance and a good amount of our retirement savings so I feel like I kinda HAVE to go back).

    https://www.lifehack.org/articles/work/11-positive-effects-working-moms.html
  • jenboston22jenboston22 member
    edited June 2015
    I will be choosing to stay at home with my children (although I will likely continue to work part-time from home, as I am a freelancer). I don't want to leave my children in a day care; I want to be as actively involved in their lives as possible.

    Some may disagree, and that is fine, but I personally feel that it is best for one parent to stay at home with their children, especially during their early years. With that said, I think it is completely fine for that person to be the mother or the father; whichever person works best for that particular family. (Unfortunately, of course, it is not always possible for someone to stay at home, especially when families need two incomes to survive.)

    As for the whole "good role model" argument -- I think that my child will find me a very good role model. There is much more to being a "good role model" than simply going to work. I will teach my children to love and respect people and animals, to study hard and do well in school, to not blindly follow society's dictates, etc. Most importantly, I will be there for them, and they will know that they (and my husband) come first.

    Anyway, I just wanted to write about how I feel. I completely respect families who choose to (or need to) have both parents work outside the home, and I will teach my children to respect all such lifestyles. In the end we all simply want to raise our families in the best ways possible. For me, that is staying at home, but for others, that may be going to work. To each her (or his) own.
  • You know what I am looking forward to? A time when every family has the choice for one parent to stay at home or both parents to work regardless of their jobs or income or the cost of child care, and nobody judges them for their choice or their reasons why. 
  • I enjoy working and making money. I have worked since I was 14 and only had time off to be with my children. It has been 6 years since I was home with my daughter and I am looking forward to being home and having that time with this daughter. It doesn't matter wether or not I had a doctorate or some prestigious job it's just that for me my job can change and when I'm having my baby that is my job for the time being and I will put my all into that "job" even though I didn't go through years of school to do it or have any degrees or awards for me it's an award in itself and I can always go back to work when need be!
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