Opinions on first and last name having the same letter?

chaniship · June 2015

we have chosen our girl name; Scout Iris Elizabeth F-last name, and while we love the boy name we picked; Fox Orion James F-last name, we are unsure of it with having the same first letter of first and last name.
Thoughts?
Are we over thinking this?
Thanks!

LNic5 · June 2015

Sometimes it works ok and sometimes it's too much, really depends on the last name and how they sound together

LizWhiz87 · June 2015

I think the bigger issue is that you want to name your children Scout and/or Fox.

chaniship · June 2015

LizWhiz87 said:
I think the bigger issue is that you want to name your children Scout and/or Fox.

To each their own I guess. I understand people's reasoning for not liking the names but we of course have our own reasons for choosing them

bbiutmcph · June 2015

I would do Orion Fox. Fox is more suitable for a middle name and actually I think it's pretty cool there. An adult Fox doesn't seem likely to be taken seriously.

gonetothesea · June 2015

Love Scout. Are you a To Kill A Mockingbird fan?

wassuphoes · June 2015

I think Fox makes a badass middle name. It's trying to hard as a first name though.

I get the Harper Lee love, but I would keep Scout as a nickname or middle name at most. No one actually wants to put Scout on a resume. She'll be an adult for so much longer then she'll be a child.

chaniship · June 2015

gonetothesea said:
Love Scout. Are you a To Kill A Mockingbird fan?

Very much so! Thanks!

halo&wings · June 2015

I think it really just depends on the last name. Typically I am not a fan of alliteration because it sounds too cutesy, however, having said that, our LO due in July will have first and last names starting with S. The double S actually works in our case. I did have to cross off Scarlett from our girl list and Shane from our boy list because it was too much with our last name. It's hard to help without knowing the last name.

LizWhiz87 · June 2015

wassuphoes said:

I think Fox makes a badass middle name. It's trying to hard as a first name though.

I get the Harper Lee love, but I would keep Scout as a nickname or middle name at most. No one actually wants to put Scout on a resume. She'll be an adult for so much longer then she'll be a child.

Yes. All of this. That's what I meant to say.

monaclemere · June 2015

I love the names Scout and Fox! Don't change a thing!

parenthood4 · June 2015

Like others said, I think it just depends on the first and last name. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

That being said, my dad really wanted to name me Scout. I am so so so grateful my mom vetoed it. Think about how your child might view their name one day.

chaniship · June 2015

kh1824 said:
Like others said, I think it just depends on the first and last name. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

That being said, my dad really wanted to name me Scout. I am so so so grateful my mom vetoed it. Think about how your child might view their name one day.

If my child truly hates it knowing the meaning and why we chose it for her, she is free to go by her middle name Iris of course! I know many people who go by their middle names.
Of course we hope she wouldn't have to resort to that because we see nothing wrong with the name.

wassuphoes · June 2015

chaniship said:

Like others said, I think it just depends on the first and last name. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. That being said, my dad really wanted to name me Scout. I am so so so grateful my mom vetoed it. Think about how your child might view their name one day.
If my child truly hates it knowing the meaning and why we chose it for her, she is free to go by her middle name Iris of course! I know many people who go by their middle names. Of course we hope she wouldn't have to resort to that because we see nothing wrong with the name.

Why not make it a special NN. Seriously, I don't understand the point of naming your child after the nickname of a fictional character.

I get naming after a fictional character, I do (Hell, it's how we came up with our girl name) but I don't get naming your child after the nick name of the character.

Everycol0r · June 2015

Can we be honest here?

Not sure a 45 year old woman is going to appreciate her name of Scout. Iris is much lovelier. Fox Orion sounds like you're just trying to hard.

chaniship · June 2015

Lol I never understand people's reasoning for saying names are "trying too hard"
I know someone who vetoed the name Sadie for that reason. ???
Trying too hard to what? Be a name?

bbiutmcph · June 2015

chaniship said:

Lol I never understand people's reasoning for saying names are "trying too hard" I know someone who vetoed the name Sadie for that reason. ??? Trying too hard to what? Be a name?

TO sound cool, hipster, bad ass, awesome, unique......

Everycol0r · June 2015

Trying to hard to be outside of the box by using two very uncommon names together. Trying to hard to draw attention to the uniqueness of their name. Trying to hard to rebel against the hipster, trendy names and missing the mark. But that's just my opinion.

ETA I like Sadie. My ILs named their dog Sadie though so not an option for us.

chaniship · June 2015

Everycol0r said:
Trying to hard to be outside of the box by using two very uncommon names together. Trying to hard to draw attention to the uniqueness of their name. Trying to hard to rebel against the hipster, trendy names and missing the mark. But that's just my opinion.

ETA I like Sadie. My ILs named their dog Sadie though so not an option for us.

Gotcha. I honestly understand what you're saying but I have to disagree. It is interesting to hear others opinions though! So thank you. Hearing opposition actually has cemented our choices because it made us think about why we really wanted these names.
Just to be clear Fox is the first name and Orion and James are middle names. Orion was chosen because of my DH's love of astronomy. James because it was my father's middle name and his father's as well. But James doesn't seem to be an issue for anyone

And yeah I love the name Sadie! And it's actually DH's grandmother's name so it was a contender for us for a bit

wassuphoes · June 2015

^ What they said.

It's like Poochie from the Simpsons.

chaniship · June 2015

wassuphoes said:
^ What they said.

It's like Poochie from the Simpsons.

Haha! I hope not.

wassuphoes · June 2015

chaniship said:

^ What they said.

It's like Poochie from the Simpsons.

Haha! I hope not.

Unfortunately, it's not possible to control how people react to names. A lot of people told you it was too much. You know the advice of taking one piece of jewelry off before leaving the house? If you're set on a "cool" name, you should put it in the middle or use a traditional middle name to balance it out.

chaniship · June 2015

wassuphoes said:

chaniship said:

wassuphoes said:
^ What they said.

It's like Poochie from the Simpsons.

Haha! I hope not.

Unfortunately, it's not possible to control how people react to names.

A lot of people told you it was too much. You know the advice of taking one piece of jewelry off before leaving the house? If you're set on a "cool" name, you should put it in the middle or use a traditional middle name to balance it out.

Are Iris and Elizabeth not traditional to you?

monaclemere · June 2015

wassuphoes said:

chaniship said:

wassuphoes said:
^ What they said.

It's like Poochie from the Simpsons.

Haha! I hope not.

Unfortunately, it's not possible to control how people react to names.

A lot of people told you it was too much. You know the advice of taking one piece of jewelry off before leaving the house? If you're set on a "cool" name, you should put it in the middle or use a traditional middle name to balance it out.

Thanks for letting everyone know what the rules are for choosing a name.

Everycol0r · June 2015

monaclemere said:

wassuphoes said:

chaniship said:

wassuphoes said:
^ What they said.

It's like Poochie from the Simpsons.

Haha! I hope not.

Unfortunately, it's not possible to control how people react to names.

A lot of people told you it was too much. You know the advice of taking one piece of jewelry off before leaving the house? If you're set on a "cool" name, you should put it in the middle or use a traditional middle name to balance it out.

Thanks for letting everyone know what the rules are for choosing a name.

If you come here to ask for opinions on a name, you are opening that name to be judged by the "rules" people have for their own self & the baby naming process.

MamaWren919 · June 2015

I think it just depends on the names. Sometimes it sounds fine and sometimes it's a little sing-songy. With Fox, it might be a little much or sound like a cartoon/comic book character. Hard to say without knowing the last name.

adecembermom2015 · June 2015

I think starting with the same letter for first and last name is fine. Love Scout! Fox is not my favorite. I'd do Atticus to keep with the theme.

wassuphoes · June 2015

chaniship said:

chaniship said:

^ What they said.

It's like Poochie from the Simpsons.

Haha! I hope not.

Unfortunately, it's not possible to control how people react to names. A lot of people told you it was too much. You know the advice of taking one piece of jewelry off before leaving the house? If you're set on a "cool" name, you should put it in the middle or use a traditional middle name to balance it out.
Are Iris and Elizabeth not traditional to you?

Iris and Elizabeth are very traditional.

Orion is not.

And double middle names are an entirely different beast. Unless it's a family tradition, I'd recommend skipping it because it can be a hassle for legal paperwork and documents.

Good on you for owning your choices, but other people are not going to have all that information that your H is into astronomy and I seriously still don't get using the nn of a character. Other people will make judgements based on the information they have. You are judged by your name and how it is spelled, that is a fact of life.

wassuphoes · June 2015

monaclemere said:

chaniship said:

^ What they said.

It's like Poochie from the Simpsons.

Haha! I hope not.

Unfortunately, it's not possible to control how people react to names. A lot of people told you it was too much. You know the advice of taking one piece of jewelry off before leaving the house? If you're set on a "cool" name, you should put it in the middle or use a traditional middle name to balance it out.
Thanks for letting everyone know what the rules are for choosing a name.

There's a difference between rules and advice. That whole words have meanings thing.

monaclemere · June 2015

Everycol0r said:

monaclemere said:

wassuphoes said:

chaniship said:

wassuphoes said:
^ What they said.

It's like Poochie from the Simpsons.

Haha! I hope not.

Unfortunately, it's not possible to control how people react to names.

A lot of people told you it was too much. You know the advice of taking one piece of jewelry off before leaving the house? If you're set on a "cool" name, you should put it in the middle or use a traditional middle name to balance it out.
Thanks for letting everyone know what the rules are for choosing a name.

If you come here to ask for opinions on a name, you are opening that name to be judged by the "rules" people have for their own self & the baby naming process.
Umm yeah. Thanks for clarifying that. Really helpful.

Everycol0r · June 2015

monaclemere said:

Everycol0r said:

monaclemere said:

wassuphoes said:

chaniship said:

wassuphoes said:
^ What they said.

It's like Poochie from the Simpsons.

Haha! I hope not.

Unfortunately, it's not possible to control how people react to names.

A lot of people told you it was too much. You know the advice of taking one piece of jewelry off before leaving the house? If you're set on a "cool" name, you should put it in the middle or use a traditional middle name to balance it out.
Thanks for letting everyone know what the rules are for choosing a name.

If you come here to ask for opinions on a name, you are opening that name to be judged by the "rules" people have for their own self & the baby naming process.

Umm yeah. Thanks for clarifying that. Really helpful.

Fairly certain I'm making perfect sense? My name rules? I don't want anything on the top 100 list. Person 2 name rules: Nothing frilly for a girl. Person 3 name rules: Only comic book character names.

Each person has a set of rules that they govern by. There is not a universal list of name rules, just billions of people specific rules. So by asking the opinions of others, their personal rules will influence the outcome of advice you receive.

Clearer?

LizWhiz87 · June 2015

Let me get some popcorn y'all.

Everycol0r · June 2015

LizWhiz87 said:
Let me get some popcorn y'all.

chaniship · June 2015

Okay let's not freak out! Names seem to get people into a tizzy. I was really trying to keep an argument from happening!
I posted this so I knew that some opinions would be different from my own. And that's okay! I welcome hearing other options and suggestions.

Thanks to the people who answered my title question. It seems like we are over thinking the same letter thing. Our last name is Mennonite and would work fine with Fox. No rhyming and not even the same amount of syllables

So thanks!

g8trkim · June 2015

I'm not a huge fan of alliteration names in general, but it really depends on the name. In your case, I think it might be a little much. Pairing Fox with an F name could make it sound silly and cartoonish.

MixedBerries88 · June 2015

chaniship said:

gonetothesea said:
Love Scout. Are you a To Kill A Mockingbird fan?
Very much so! Thanks!

Not a fan of Scout but at least you're not being a lemming and using Harper! I fell into having the same first and last initial when I got married and I actually really like it. Got to love an alliteration! I agree with pp that Orion Fox is probably better in this situation, regardless of your last name.

Knottie1431899811 · June 2015

Everycol0r said:
Trying to hard to be outside of the box by using two very uncommon names together. Trying to hard to draw attention to the uniqueness of their name. Trying to hard to rebel against the hipster, trendy names and missing the mark.

^So. Much. This. So much.

Also, I'm sure this won't be a popular opinion, but wth this thread already went bonkers and I wasn't even here for the fun, so here goes:

To Kill a Mocking Bird is a great book. It's a classic. But whenever I hear someone say it's their favorite, and their kids are Atticus, Harper, Scout, and the dog's name is Finch, I definitely don't think "Oh, so you're a literature lover!" I think "Oh, so you haven't read anything since high school." :-S

OP, that's not necessarily directed at you- I have no idea if you're a bibliophile. But I would tend to agree with the advice that you should consider naming your daughter a full given name (Jean? Louise?) and use Scout as a special nn.

groovylocks · June 2015

It's usually not terrible unless it looks like you're trying to do it.

Cadence and balance rules still apply of course.

groovylocks · June 2015

I'm not one for weirdass attention-seeking names but i DO happen to be one for space names. Orion is pretty cool, actually.

groovylocks · June 2015

Everycol0r said:

chaniship said:

^ What they said.

It's like Poochie from the Simpsons.

Haha! I hope not.

Unfortunately, it's not possible to control how people react to names. A lot of people told you it was too much. You know the advice of taking one piece of jewelry off before leaving the house? If you're set on a "cool" name, you should put it in the middle or use a traditional middle name to balance it out.
Thanks for letting everyone know what the rules are for choosing a name.
If you come here to ask for opinions on a name, you are opening that name to be judged by the "rules" people have for their own self & the baby naming process.

Actually, no screw all this. There ARE rules. And one of those rules is that if you choose a childish name with a childish spelling (not saying you are but just giving an example of a very real rule) YOUR CHILD WILL NOT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY.

I hate to say it, but a resume with the name Raistlynne gracing the top is not going to get even a fraction of the consideration that others will get. Because it is assumed that idiots raise idiots and Raistlynne is an idiotic name and a white trash name.

That's a rule.

It doesn't matter how you FEEL about it. It doesn't matter if it's "not fair". That is human nature. Shallow, vain people are nowhere near as exclusive as the intellectually elite and they don't have time to entertain the liability of a kid with parents dumb enough to choose a name that reads like a hostage situation of the English language.

You are absolutely judged on how put together you are and that includes your name. You owe it to your kid to not give them a name that belongs on the bottom of an eye chart.

Again, not saying this is the best system. But it IS THE WAY IT WORKS and you naming your kid Raystlynn out of spite isn't going to hurt anybody but your kid.

Boonhilde · June 2015

I think it's great! He'll sound like a super hero! Clark Kent, Peter Parker, Bruce Banner, etc. Go for it!

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