I thought this app was going to be different then it is honestly I feel like over half the threads I have looked at there is always that one person being a Debbie downer. I just want this pregnancy to be as positive as I can make it.
The F bomb is really unnecessary. Sorry, but it is a board. If you didn't want comments to your thread, you shouldn't have posted. We all leave ourselves open to scrutiny when posting a discussion.
I think the notion of 'Science' trumping everything, especially what a mom is feeling, is problematic. Science is based on amassed data and extensive research, and is therefore very valuable and useful in many respects. But how much research/ experimentation can be done on a pregnant woman? The fact (or 'Science') is that we don't know everything there is to know about pregnancy. We are going on what the current data tells us. That's going to change and evolve over time. I've been feeling 'flutters' too, and I don't really care if it's gas. I know it is because there is a baby in there. What a mom is feeling should be treated with equal importance to what someone read in What to Expect (personally I prefer the Mayo Clinic guide). Just my piece.
No no @nik6499 I should have elaborated that comment because that's not how I meant it I was talking about if you think back to when people were posting and complaining about how negative it was to get on and see all of the miscarriage threads. I would never make fun of someone's loss but to me it all seems like bullying. I understand people have different opinions but sometimes it's just more polite to keep it to yourself. If someone wants to post that they felt Thor prune move then laugh at it and keep scrolling you don't have to shut them down. Like I said my doctor said it was possible and I got very excited yes. But It was very negative to see people posting things like they laughed so hard that their stomach hurt or was that the baby moving? And that science said it's impossible because no it doesn't it just depends on who's science project your looking at.
I have been an active member of this bmb since I was 4 weeks and I have never seen someone post negatively about the miscarriage threads, no way in hell I would tolerate that nonsense. We have a very active PGAL following here. Whether you are sincere or cat fishing is on you and of no consequence to me. I've said my piece.
@bombmom22 I hope your wont delete your account, it's still great to have you a part of the board. I will agree that seeing someone laugh or make fun of something that is supposed to be a happy time for you would hurt your feelings, it would kind of hurt mine too. With that said, that's amazing you felt a flutter! I seriously can't wait till I feel a flutter or kick. Congrats on feeling your little baby moving around!
My OB says some mothers report flutters from 13 weeks. My sister's OB says from 16 weeks. Subjective data is tricky. My patients daughter said she felt the same movement at 13 wks that she felt at 20 wks. So many people told her it was impossible to feel it that early so she brushed it off as gas.
I read an article for nursing school a few years ago that concluded that a majority of women didn't report flutters until 20 weeks. We learned in nursing school that they start at 16 weeks in the textbook, but according to the NCLEX it's 18 weeks.
The point is science can't determine feeling, someone says they have 10/10 pain they get morphine. Maybe the baby is too small to feel, or maybe you are just sensitive to physical feelings.
To be a good nurse I have to always remember that science only goes so far, and the weak points in science are commonly subjective data. However I'm not typing this opinion again so there it is.
@Razberii thank you!!! I'm all for researching everything I possibly can and looking in to scientific data, but Science as the be all end all freaks me out. These are our bodies. It's also important to trust your own intuition. No one should be shot down because 'science says you're wrong!' especially on something like a feeling.
I definitely think its possible you felt a flutter! Yeah it could have been gas or something else, but it could have been baby. Youll know more in the next few weeks when they become more obvious.
Agree with @Marchmellow2 that I hope that the OP does not feel responsible for the debate that took place on this thread. It is exciting, even if it is not the baby. It's still pregnancy related and that is exciting! Plus, she was not the one telling people that science is fake and that we are all "dream crushers."
And by the way apparently your search function doesn't work that well cause I actually did use it. Sometimes I feel like yalls comments to the other moms are more negative then all the miscarriage threads.
BEYOND UNCALLED FOR! Just thought that I would post my previous comment before I go back and delete it. You can completely forget about anything that I said positive towards you. I think that this post shows the highest level of déclassé that I have yet to read on these boards. That comment was beyond offensive and no matter how you try to justify it, it is not going to be seen that way by those of us that have experienced a loss or multiple losses; despite the fact that you have a "family history" of loss.
Not only is your comment and position uncouth, but I have to say that I am utterly shocked by the level of distain and self-centeredness that you have expressed.
To continue to have any interaction with a person such as yourself would fall into the category of insanity.
No no @nik6499 I should have elaborated that comment because that's not how I meant it I was talking about if you think back to when people were posting and complaining about how negative it was to get on and see all of the miscarriage threads. I would never make fun of someone's loss but to me it all seems like bullying. I understand people have different opinions but sometimes it's just more polite to keep it to yourself. If someone wants to post that they felt Thor prune move then laugh at it and keep scrolling you don't have to shut them down. Like I said my doctor said it was possible and I got very excited yes. But It was very negative to see people posting things like they laughed so hard that their stomach hurt or was that the baby moving? And that science said it's impossible because no it doesn't it just depends on who's science project your looking at.
@BostonBaby1 she didn't mean it like that. You can use the search discussion at the bottom of the page to search posts on each board.
Yes, I know how to use the search function. However, I also read what you quoted above and to me it is of no consequence whatsoever. I will not requote what she had written due to the fact that I had already stated that I'm done with this person completely. If you want to continue to uphold her disparaging and demeaning viewpoints, despite the fact that she backtracked on them afterwards, you are welcome to do so.
Please do not address me any further on this post. As I said before, to continue any further discussion on this point would be the definition of insanity.
For you @BostonBaby1 If I would have elaborated on that post more then I did I could see why you would think that, but I didn't. I simply said yall are more negative towards people then all the miscarriage threads. It was a statement that came out wrong and that I have already addressed above. But I did not em say anything else to make you believe I was honestly using those victims as a target. With that being said I will not further explain myself because deep down inside I know what I meant and I know what kind of person I am and at the end of the day YOU are not my judge. So go ahead and leave! But keep your ignorance to yourself.
I had my first flutter last week at 12 weeks I only felt it about 3 times but I had my fetal Doppler on my belly when it happened and you can hear the baby move at the same time I felt it, it was the most amazing feeling ever.
Im gonna be bluntly honest because personally I think these threads are as full of drama as facebook so I'm actually deactivating my page tomorrow but I would like to give my supporters a chance to see me say thank you for the generous comments..to the rest of you I don't really give a fuck what you think..excuse my language but I didn't ask you to respond if your tired of seeing the same post then don't open it. We are all here for support and I'll have you know that my best friend did feel her baby at 13 and a half weeks and I was at the doctors and my doc said it is very likely that it is my baby because he/she is measuring big so I would like to remind you that not every ones pregnancy is the same and just because you flutter is gas does not mean that mine is. Thank you. Good luck to all. Oh and there is lots of "science" that is found to be wrong everyday.
Why do some people troll on EVERY single message board and leave their 2cents when most the time their not even that far along, not even experiencing the same symptoms, or situation! Its very annoying to see. Like you said, if your tired of seeing it don't open it! I mean there are literally a handle full of women on here trolling every post that has been duplicated telling the women to use the search function. Its like, DO YOU WORK!? or HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO than to read EVERY SINGLE board?! There's a difference between being supportive, giving a congratulations, I'm happy for you, or good for you on a board to an OP that has experienced something versus when the person responding isn't even in the same situation or week/month. If you can't be positive, don't say anything. I don't care if you want the OP to use the search function, that's not what she's asking. Just relate to the OP.... give encouraging advice. If you cant, use the BACK button and more on!
Was the second half new? She might have gotten stuck in the quote box? I don't remember reading that second half before, but I could just be forgetting. Still... This thread needs to end
Re: First flutter??
My patients daughter said she felt the same movement at 13 wks that she felt at 20 wks. So many people told her it was impossible to feel it that early so she brushed it off as gas.
I read an article for nursing school a few years ago that concluded that a majority of women didn't report flutters until 20 weeks. We learned in nursing school that they start at 16 weeks in the textbook, but according to the NCLEX it's 18 weeks.
The point is science can't determine feeling, someone says they have 10/10 pain they get morphine. Maybe the baby is too small to feel, or maybe you are just sensitive to physical feelings.
To be a good nurse I have to always remember that science only goes so far, and the weak points in science are commonly subjective data.
However I'm not typing this opinion again so there it is.
I definitely think its possible you felt a flutter! Yeah it could have been gas or something else, but it could have been baby. Youll know more in the next few weeks when they become more obvious.
Not only is your comment and position uncouth, but I have to say that I am utterly shocked by the level of distain and self-centeredness that you have expressed.
To continue to have any interaction with a person such as yourself would fall into the category of insanity.
Yes, I know how to use the search function. However, I also read what you quoted above and to me it is of no consequence whatsoever. I will not requote what she had written due to the fact that I had already stated that I'm done with this person completely. If you want to continue to uphold her disparaging and demeaning viewpoints, despite the fact that she backtracked on them afterwards, you are welcome to do so.
Please do not address me any further on this post. As I said before, to continue any further discussion on this point would be the definition of insanity.