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Am I crazy? I think I have a hidden twin.

cmrobertson2cmrobertson2 member
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Ok...I need to know if I'm crazy or this something actually feasible. I'm currently 22w 3 days with my 5th baby. I have always had a larger stomach from having 4 c sections. It was from my first that I gained weight and never lost it. So I always look 4-5 months pregnant. Anyways I had an ultrasound at 7weeks. My last 2 sonogram I had to have an on top of the belly scan instead of a vaginal because vaginally you couldn't see anything because my uterus is so high(Dr said possible because I've had many csections). So I was told there was NO chance of twins. So now like I said I'm 22w 3d and I look 8 months pregnant. I had very bad nauseous until about 15 weeks. My mother in law has crazy intuition and is always right about it. She made the comment to me...are you SURE you are not having twins? I said unless the doctor is lying or doesn't see it then yes I'm sure. Ever since then I've noticed that I'm feeling kicks very high and then separately very low. Never at the same time and never in the middle between the 2 areas. I looked back at my 19w ultrasound(attached below) if you notice the obvious baby in the center...underneath there is either an arm and a hand and something else. If it is an arm it's impossible for it to be connected to that baby based on its angle. I felt kicks at 17-18w about 3 inches above my belly button. When the ultrasound tech did the sonogram she never went down low to where I suspect another baby is...they only looked up high. My husband and best friend have seen the sonogram and swear there is another baby in there. I know it's very unlikely to miss a twin with the technology today...but it's not impossible. Since I had my first sonogram early a twin could have appeared weeks following before another sonogram was performed....I know this is possible but I personally know people this has happened to. Also my uterus should be measuring slightly above my belly button at 22weeks I can feek baby kick up to 6 inches above the navel.

Please tell me what you think. Am I crazy? Should I drop it? Is it worth asking my doctor? I just want to know if I'm seeing things.

Pictures include 19 w sonogram and a pic I took of my belly tonight at 22w 3d.
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  • cmrobertson2cmrobertson2 member
    Also the comment from my doctor about no chance of twins was made at my 12 week appointment after seeing the result of the7 week sonogram. No further investigation was done.
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  • Peach&DanPeach&Dan member
    If it were me I'd get a 2nd opinion.
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  • delujm0delujm0 member
    If your doctor doesn't see it on a sonogram it's probably not there...did you have an anatomy scan around the halfway point? It would be extremely difficult to miss a baby at that point...it's a very detailed scan and the babies are plenty large.

    I will offer that I also felt the baby either really high or really low but not in the middle really until about 33-34 weeks...it was because I have anterior placenta so there was extra cushioning when the baby was behind it. Also typically you'll have feet up high and hands down low so that's where most movement generally is. If you're very concerned, ask your doctor for another scan or pay for an elective ultrasound.
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  • cdepperschmidtcdepperschmidt member
    My mother had a friend who thought she was pregnant with one until she delivered one an they said that there was another one in there. So it is possible. However, that was in 1989.
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  • cmrobertson2cmrobertson2 member
    They're not gonna tell me if I'm having twins. I'm asking if it's worth asking my doctor or should I leave it alone.
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  • CatsAreShadyCatsAreShady member
    cmrobertson2 said:

    Ok...I need to know if I'm crazy or this something actually feasible. I'm currently 22w 3 days with my 5th baby. I have always had a larger stomach from having 4 c sections. It was from my first that I gained weight and never lost it. So I always look 4-5 months pregnant. Anyways I had an ultrasound at 7weeks. My last 2 sonogram I had to have an on top of the belly scan instead of a vaginal because vaginally you couldn't see anything because my uterus is so high(Dr said possible because I've had many csections). So I was told there was NO chance of twins. So now like I said I'm 22w 3d and I look 8 months pregnant. I had very bad nauseous until about 15 weeks. My mother in law has crazy intuition and is always right about it. She made the comment to me...are you SURE you are not having twins? I said unless the doctor is lying or doesn't see it then yes I'm sure. Ever since then I've noticed that I'm feeling kicks very high and then separately very low. Never at the same time and never in the middle between the 2 areas. I looked back at my 19w ultrasound(attached below) if you notice the obvious baby in the center...underneath there is either an arm and a hand and something else. If it is an arm it's impossible for it to be connected to that baby based on its angle. I felt kicks at 17-18w about 3 inches above my belly button. When the ultrasound tech did the sonogram she never went down low to where I suspect another baby is...they only looked up high. My husband and best friend have seen the sonogram and swear there is another baby in there. I know it's very unlikely to miss a twin with the technology today...but it's not impossible. Since I had my first sonogram early a twin could have appeared weeks following before another sonogram was performed....I know this is possible but I personally know people this has happened to. Also my uterus should be measuring slightly above my belly button at 22weeks I can feek baby kick up to 6 inches above the navel.

    Please tell me what you think. Am I crazy? Should I drop it? Is it worth asking my doctor? I just want to know if I'm seeing things.

    Pictures include 19 w sonogram and a pic I took of my belly tonight at 22w 3d.

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    cmrobertson2 said:

    They're not gonna tell me if I'm having twins. I'm asking if it's worth asking my doctor or should I leave it alone.

    I'm not sure I get this. If you feel strongly about this then yes, ask your doctor. If you want to leave it alone, then leave it alone. Are you asking in a roundabout way if we agree with your assessment? Based off of the evidence you presented......not really.
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  • cmrobertson2cmrobertson2 member
    Sorry but I see another hand in this other picture. Its a left hand and the baby is at a right profile. Its not possi so for the hand/arm in this pic to be connected to the baby I'm seeing. I'm definitely not leaving it alone and need to investigate further.
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  • cmrobertson2cmrobertson2 member
    You said you think people on here are going to be able to tell me if I'm having twins...not my doctor. I meant "they're not" as in people on the forum not my dr
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  • oneblessedmessoneblessedmess member
    Yeah, I would think if that "other hand" is really a hand your doctor and/or ultrasound tech would have noticed it. I think it's far more likely that it's something else. In any case, speculating on here isn't going to help. Ask your doctor what it is.
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  • CatsAreShadyCatsAreShady member
    cmrobertson2 said:

    Sorry but I see another hand in this other picture. Its a left hand and the baby is at a right profile. Its not possi so for the hand/arm in this pic to be connected to the baby I'm seeing. I'm definitely not leaving it alone and need to investigate further.

    Okay so why bother asking for opinions? You knew you were already going to follow up with your doctor before posting. I don't understand the point of all this.
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  • NoSugarCoatingNoSugarCoating member
    cmrobertson2 said:

    You said you think people on here are going to be able to tell me if I'm having twins...not my doctor. I meant "they're not" as in people on the forum not my dr

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    Also, I don't see ANY hands in your US pic. I'm not an US tech and neither are you. None of us (including you) are trained to read an US.
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  • KateLouiseKateLouise member
    I can see what you think could be a hand, especially in that second ultrasound pic, and out of curiosity I would ask the OB what it is. However, I would be really surprised if it's another baby, mostly because I don't see how one baby could be waving an arm about so closely to the baby they were scanning and a trained tech not notice another baby moving about.

    I don't think how big you appear to be carrying means anything. I look the same as you, and I'm totally sure I only have one in there.
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  • Peach&DanPeach&Dan member
    Could you be feeling your baby's movement and gas in other areas? I'm pregnant with my first daughter now.... so I'm pretty inexperienced... but I guess it's possible.
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  • PrimRoseMamaPrimRoseMama member
    By 20 weeks with today's technology it would be incredibly unlikely that another baby (at the same gestational age) would be missed. I'd say next to impossible.

    For one thing-- you'd be able to see & hear two heart beats with two distinct BPM. The other baby would also most likely be visible on any number of scans. I am not sure I see the same thing you are claiming.

    If you want to seek another opinion and/or elective ultrasound just be prepared to pay out of pocket for the scans.

    I mean, even if they do miss it & you go until delivery then by early-term it will be obvious or you'll have a second baby. I'm not entirely sure what you hope to gain by pressing the issue?


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  • cmrobertson2cmrobertson2 member
    I'm not pressing anything. I asked a simple question. This is a discussion forum where I was asking an opinion. Sometimes we hope to find others who may have had similar situations. Am I crazy? Maybe. I'll find out next week. If you just come on these forums to make people feel dumb with your rude comments then maybe this isn't the place for you. We all have something in common...we are mothers, mothers simply asking the opinion of others. If you just plan to make fun of everyone for their questions then maybe you shouldn't give your opinion. I wasn't asking people to diagnose my situation. I was simply asking what the probability was. Now that I know we will wait to hear from a medical professional.
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    cmrobertson2 said:

    I'm not pressing anything. I asked a simple question. This is a discussion forum where I was asking an opinion. Sometimes we hope to find others who may have had similar situations. Am I crazy? Maybe. I'll find out next week. If you just come on these forums to make people feel dumb with your rude comments then maybe this isn't the place for you. We all have something in common...we are mothers, mothers simply asking the opinion of others. If you just plan to make fun of everyone for their questions then maybe you shouldn't give your opinion. I wasn't asking people to diagnose my situation. I was simply asking what the probability was. Now that I know we will wait to hear from a medical professional.

    Uh, have you looked at some of the other boards on this site? Miscarriage. Late Term and Child Loss. Child-Free Not By Choice. Unfortunately, not all of us one the site are mothers. 
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  • twogirlsandagreentwogirlsandagreen member
    I see what you could mistake for an arm/hand, but if it were, that would mean that the twin would be in the same sac as the baby pictured. There is no way they would have missed a twin sharing a gestational sac. MAYBE they could miss a twin in a separate sac (highly unlikely, but possible), but then you wouldn't see an arm that close to the other baby (they would be separated by their sacs).

    In terms of intuition, I was convinced I was pregnant with twins this time, as were my mother and a close friend. I mean I was SURE. Nope. Just one.

    You do not appear to be carrying extraordinarily large, especially for a 5th pregnancy.

    99.9999999% chance your dr will confirm that there is only one baby in there when you go in. But I'm glad you will get confirmation to put your mind at ease.
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    NoSugarCoating said:

    cmrobertson2 said:

    I'm not pressing anything. I asked a simple question. This is a discussion forum where I was asking an opinion. Sometimes we hope to find others who may have had similar situations. Am I crazy? Maybe. I'll find out next week. If you just come on these forums to make people feel dumb with your rude comments then maybe this isn't the place for you. We all have something in common...we are mothers, mothers simply asking the opinion of others. If you just plan to make fun of everyone for their questions then maybe you shouldn't give your opinion. I wasn't asking people to diagnose my situation. I was simply asking what the probability was. Now that I know we will wait to hear from a medical professional.

    Uh, have you looked at some of the other boards on this site? Miscarriage. Late Term and Child Loss. Child-Free Not By Choice. Unfortunately, not all of us one the site are mothers. 



    If you are in 2nd tri but are child free not by choice or suffering from infertility than you are self inflicting pain. This board is FOR people who are in their second trimester. I'm all for sensitivity towards those of us who have suffered from infertility and loss but 2nd tri is where it is reasonable to make an assumption that people are excited and on the road to motherhood.

    It does bring up an interesting point though. Is there a 'pregnant after infertility' board? It does feel different than other women I've known who just had unadulterated excitement.

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    csy2947 said:

    NoSugarCoating said:

    cmrobertson2 said:

    I'm not pressing anything. I asked a simple question. This is a discussion forum where I was asking an opinion. Sometimes we hope to find others who may have had similar situations. Am I crazy? Maybe. I'll find out next week. If you just come on these forums to make people feel dumb with your rude comments then maybe this isn't the place for you. We all have something in common...we are mothers, mothers simply asking the opinion of others. If you just plan to make fun of everyone for their questions then maybe you shouldn't give your opinion. I wasn't asking people to diagnose my situation. I was simply asking what the probability was. Now that I know we will wait to hear from a medical professional.

    Uh, have you looked at some of the other boards on this site? Miscarriage. Late Term and Child Loss. Child-Free Not By Choice. Unfortunately, not all of us one the site are mothers. 



    If you are in 2nd tri but are child free not by choice or suffering from infertility than you are self inflicting pain. This board is FOR people who are in their second trimester. I'm all for sensitivity towards those of us who have suffered from infertility and loss but 2nd tri is where it is reasonable to make an assumption that people are excited and on the road to motherhood.

    It does bring up an interesting point though. Is there a 'pregnant after infertility' board? It does feel different than other women I've known who just had unadulterated excitement.

    Yes. All of the boards she mentioned exist here. There's a board for everything having to do with TTC, pregnancy, and parenting.
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    missteacherlady16 said:

    Just FYI


    The report button is in no way, shape, or form a dislike button.

    Please don't use it as such and get valuable members of the community banned. 

    You should be ashamed of yourself - whoever did it. 



    I didn't report her but I am SO not surprised she got reported. She (and a few others who hang here on the regular) are SO rude. This is a very typical response, but not liking or agreeing with someone's comment and feeling like someone is unbelievably rude and disrespectful of you are two different things too. I think mocking gifs are incredibly rude (and a TOU violation), regardless of whether or not I agree with their intended meaning.

    The report button should not be like, some type of taboo thing, its the community speaking its mind.

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    cmrobertson2 said:

    I'm not pressing anything. I asked a simple question. This is a discussion forum where I was asking an opinion. Sometimes we hope to find others who may have had similar situations. Am I crazy? Maybe. I'll find out next week. If you just come on these forums to make people feel dumb with your rude comments then maybe this isn't the place for you. We all have something in common...we are mothers, mothers simply asking the opinion of others. If you just plan to make fun of everyone for their questions then maybe you shouldn't give your opinion. I wasn't asking people to diagnose my situation. I was simply asking what the probability was. Now that I know we will wait to hear from a medical professional.

    @cmrobertson2 : pardon me? Were you directing this at me? I'm confused. :-??

    I'm not sure if you are having a mental health issue. That's not for me to say. I do think this response here is unnecessary & a tiny bit over the top considering I have been nothing but polite to you.


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    csy2947 said:

    missteacherlady16 said:

    Just FYI


    The report button is in no way, shape, or form a dislike button.

    Please don't use it as such and get valuable members of the community banned. 

    You should be ashamed of yourself - whoever did it. 


    The report button should not be like, some type of taboo thing, its the community speaking its mind.

    Also community typically refers to an entire group of people not a single person that is butthurt and knows how to click on report.
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    missteacherlady16 said:

    csy2947 said:

    missteacherlady16 said:

    Just FYI


    The report button is in no way, shape, or form a dislike button.

    Please don't use it as such and get valuable members of the community banned. 

    You should be ashamed of yourself - whoever did it. 



    I didn't report her but I am SO not surprised she got reported. She (and a few others who hang here on the regular) are SO rude. This is a very typical response, but not liking or agreeing with someone's comment and feeling like someone is unbelievably rude and disrespectful of you are two different things too. I think mocking gifs are incredibly rude (and a TOU violation), regardless of whether or not I agree with their intended meaning.

    The report button should not be like, some type of taboo thing, its the community speaking its mind.

    Oh stop. This community has an unique personality.

    The report button is for people that are seriously violating the TOU. This was not the case.
    There seems to be a difference of opinion within the community about how great that 'unique' aspect of it is. I have seen as many people turned off by it (actually a LOT more on the BMBs) as I have people that enjoy it. I know you'd prefer if everyone loved the snarkiness b-ness but not everyone does, and to some people, its exceptionally rude. If you have to tell those people over and over and over that they are being oversensitive and whiny and a white knight then don't be surprised when you turn off a few enough that they report you.
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  • missteacherlady16missteacherlady16 member
    csy2947 said:

    missteacherlady16 said:

    csy2947 said:

    missteacherlady16 said:

    Just FYI


    The report button is in no way, shape, or form a dislike button.

    Please don't use it as such and get valuable members of the community banned. 

    You should be ashamed of yourself - whoever did it. 



    I didn't report her but I am SO not surprised she got reported. She (and a few others who hang here on the regular) are SO rude. This is a very typical response, but not liking or agreeing with someone's comment and feeling like someone is unbelievably rude and disrespectful of you are two different things too. I think mocking gifs are incredibly rude (and a TOU violation), regardless of whether or not I agree with their intended meaning.

    The report button should not be like, some type of taboo thing, its the community speaking its mind.

    Oh stop. This community has an unique personality.

    The report button is for people that are seriously violating the TOU. This was not the case.
    There seems to be a difference of opinion within the community about how great that 'unique' aspect of it is. I have seen as many people turned off by it (actually a LOT more on the BMBs) as I have people that enjoy it. I know you'd prefer if everyone loved the snarkiness b-ness but not everyone does, and to some people, its exceptionally rude. If you have to tell those people over and over and over that they are being oversensitive and whiny and a white knight then don't be surprised when you turn off a few enough that they report you.
    Ok except you don't come to an established community and expect it to change for you.

    If someone decides that they don't like the personality here, then yes they should leave, but how immature to hit that report button then on their way out?

    Seems contradictory to your expectations.
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