At the end of the day, the FACT is if you look up Baby Shower Etiquette, it all clearly spells out that the mother-to-be should not be the one hosting the baby shower. In fact, it used to be more common for showers to be a surprise (not sure how that worked out since most people would expect it) so the mom-to-be did not have any say - no when, no where, no who, etc. Now, just because etiquette states something, does that mean everyone has to abide by it as if it were law? No, of course not, but I don't understand why people who do not plan to abide by it come on and expect the majority (who do follow etiquette) to suddenly agree that etiquette should go out the window. If you don't want honest opinions, don't post. If you want everyone agree with you on something - post something less controversial, like, "Aren't babies cute?" but other than that, expect many to disagree and state their opinion. As I have already seen pointed out, it is one thing to give input if it is solicited by the hostess, but other than that, this is THEIR moment (planning), the day is YOUR moment - let them have their moment already!!! And as for people who need to come on and call people names because they follow etiquette, or suddenly bash SAHM's (which has NOTHING to do with the post or argument) is just absurd!
At the end of the day, the FACT is if you look up Baby Shower Etiquette, it all clearly spells out that the mother-to-be should not be the one hosting the baby shower. In fact, it used to be more common for showers to be a surprise (not sure how that worked out since most people would expect it) so the mom-to-be did not have any say - no when, no where, no who, etc. Now, just because etiquette states something, does that mean everyone has to abide by it as if it were law? No, of course not, but I don't understand why people who do not plan to abide by it come on and expect the majority (who do follow etiquette) to suddenly agree that etiquette should go out the window. If you don't want honest opinions, don't post. If you want everyone agree with you on something - post something less controversial, like, "Aren't babies cute?" but other than that, expect many to disagree and state their opinion. As I have already seen pointed out, it is one thing to give input if it is solicited by the hostess, but other than that, this is THEIR moment (planning), the day is YOUR moment - let them have their moment already!!! And as for people who need to come on and call people names because they follow etiquette, or suddenly bash SAHM's (which has NOTHING to do with the post or argument) is just absurd!
@Miz_Liz don't even sweat the SAHM bashing. That poster's ridiculous comments already says all we need to know about her. I'm a SAHM too and damn proud of it. Haters will always hate.
Ah yes. The echo chamber that is these few posters on the bump. Not only do they need to disagree with you (totally fine), but they also will beat the horse until it's dead five times over. There is no agree to disagree or room for other opinions. And if you happen to pop in to support the other side you're labeled a white knight or a histrionic loony. There's just no winning. I would check out your birth month board, those are much nicer generally.
I guess some of us are stronger debaters than others. No need to cry about it, sweetie.
Lol. It's funny how you get heated about someone resorting to name calling in the previous post and then immediately respond to me with such a 'mean girls' post. What's next? The gifs?
I find your definition of "heated" funny. Pointing out the irony in a situation is hardly "heated" but thanks for playing anyway. Mean girls, lonely housewives, lmao! Keep 'em coming, people.
And don't worry, my gifs will come out to play soon enough. They are the best responses to butthurt.
Important clarification! I did not call you a mean girl, I said your comment was mean girl-esque! In your words I am keeping it 'klassy.' Perhaps your individual posts aren't heated, but the fact that you all descended at the call of nosugarcoating and keep responding feels like you might care a little bit.
Yes I respond! I like message boards! I'm part of several. I don't walk out of conversations that I'm a part of and I don't start calling people out of their names just because I'm on the losing side of the issue. It's called being a grown up.
I like @NoSugarCoating and the rest of these ladies so if they call, I'm here. Heaven forbid we find others that we like around here.
I am helping my hosts because they need the help because they all have lives. Yes it is a gift to me but I like to be involved. It is my baby after all. It saddens me how everyone is coming down on the OP because she wants involvement and ideas. Me personally. We are doing a gender reveal at our shower and keeping everything green. I love being in on the planning and excitement. Just because I am a mom doesn't mean I need to sit high on my thrown and let everyone else work at my feet like some elitist. It is your baby and you should be able to have some control. Get in there and help! No Shame!
Ah yes. The echo chamber that is these few posters on the bump. Not only do they need to disagree with you (totally fine), but they also will beat the horse until it's dead five times over. There is no agree to disagree or room for other opinions. And if you happen to pop in to support the other side you're labeled a white knight or a histrionic loony. There's just no winning. I would check out your birth month board, those are much nicer generally.
I guess some of us are stronger debaters than others. No need to cry about it, sweetie.
Lol. It's funny how you get heated about someone resorting to name calling in the previous post and then immediately respond to me with such a 'mean girls' post. What's next? The gifs?
I find your definition of "heated" funny. Pointing out the irony in a situation is hardly "heated" but thanks for playing anyway. Mean girls, lonely housewives, lmao! Keep 'em coming, people.
And don't worry, my gifs will come out to play soon enough. They are the best responses to butthurt.
Important clarification! I did not call you a mean girl, I said your comment was mean girl-esque! In your words I am keeping it 'klassy.' Perhaps your individual posts aren't heated, but the fact that you all descended at the call of nosugarcoating and keep responding feels like you might care a little bit.
Yes I respond! I like message boards! I'm part of several. I don't walk out of conversations that I'm a part of and I don't start calling people out of their names just because I'm on the losing side of the issue. It's called being a grown up.
I like @NoSugarCoating and the rest of these ladies so if they call, I'm here. Heaven forbid we find others that we like around here.
Did I call you a name? Been trying to be careful not to actually. It's your perogative to respond with your little group to back each other up and its ok for me to also respond that I disagree. Have to admit I've been a little curious as to why you all hang around on a 2nd tri board and jump on people when you don't seem to be in your second trimester but its a public forum. C'est la vie.
Ah yes. The echo chamber that is these few posters on the bump. Not only do they need to disagree with you (totally fine), but they also will beat the horse until it's dead five times over. There is no agree to disagree or room for other opinions. And if you happen to pop in to support the other side you're labeled a white knight or a histrionic loony. There's just no winning. I would check out your birth month board, those are much nicer generally.
I guess some of us are stronger debaters than others. No need to cry about it, sweetie.
Lol. It's funny how you get heated about someone resorting to name calling in the previous post and then immediately respond to me with such a 'mean girls' post. What's next? The gifs?
I find your definition of "heated" funny. Pointing out the irony in a situation is hardly "heated" but thanks for playing anyway. Mean girls, lonely housewives, lmao! Keep 'em coming, people.
And don't worry, my gifs will come out to play soon enough. They are the best responses to butthurt.
Important clarification! I did not call you a mean girl, I said your comment was mean girl-esque! In your words I am keeping it 'klassy.' Perhaps your individual posts aren't heated, but the fact that you all descended at the call of nosugarcoating and keep responding feels like you might care a little bit.
Yes I respond! I like message boards! I'm part of several. I don't walk out of conversations that I'm a part of and I don't start calling people out of their names just because I'm on the losing side of the issue. It's called being a grown up.
I like @NoSugarCoating and the rest of these ladies so if they call, I'm here. Heaven forbid we find others that we like around here.
Did I call you a name? Been trying to be careful not to actually. It's your perogative to respond with your little group to back each other up and its ok for me to also respond that I disagree. Have to admit I've been a little curious as to why you all hang around on a 2nd tri board and jump on people when you don't seem to be in your second trimester but its a public forum. C'est la vie.
I hang around several boards here. No rule says I can't. I've been around on and off here for years. I didn't want to leave just because I gave birth and I don't have to. And as much as people know nothing about pregnancy around here, they can use people who have actually read a book or two on the subject.
YOU didn't call me a name, that other poster did. You just jumped in to agree with her, for whatever reason. I wouldn't be caught dead agreeing with someone who sounds so unintelligent. If "my little group" and I bother you so much, why engage? I'm thinking you secretly like it.
Ah yes. The echo chamber that is these few posters on the bump. Not only do they need to disagree with you (totally fine), but they also will beat the horse until it's dead five times over. There is no agree to disagree or room for other opinions. And if you happen to pop in to support the other side you're labeled a white knight or a histrionic loony. There's just no winning. I would check out your birth month board, those are much nicer generally.
I guess some of us are stronger debaters than others. No need to cry about it, sweetie.
Lol. It's funny how you get heated about someone resorting to name calling in the previous post and then immediately respond to me with such a 'mean girls' post. What's next? The gifs?
I find your definition of "heated" funny. Pointing out the irony in a situation is hardly "heated" but thanks for playing anyway. Mean girls, lonely housewives, lmao! Keep 'em coming, people.
And don't worry, my gifs will come out to play soon enough. They are the best responses to butthurt.
Important clarification! I did not call you a mean girl, I said your comment was mean girl-esque! In your words I am keeping it 'klassy.' Perhaps your individual posts aren't heated, but the fact that you all descended at the call of nosugarcoating and keep responding feels like you might care a little bit.
Yes I respond! I like message boards! I'm part of several. I don't walk out of conversations that I'm a part of and I don't start calling people out of their names just because I'm on the losing side of the issue. It's called being a grown up.
I like @NoSugarCoating and the rest of these ladies so if they call, I'm here. Heaven forbid we find others that we like around here.
Did I call you a name? Been trying to be careful not to actually. It's your perogative to respond with your little group to back each other up and its ok for me to also respond that I disagree. Have to admit I've been a little curious as to why you all hang around on a 2nd tri board and jump on people when you don't seem to be in your second trimester but its a public forum. C'est la vie.
I hang around several boards here. No rule says I can't. I've been around on and off here for years. I didn't want to leave just because I gave birth and I don't have to. And as much as people know nothing about pregnancy around here, they can use people who have actually read a book or two on the subject.
YOU didn't call me a name, that other poster did. You just jumped in to agree with her, for whatever reason. I wouldn't be caught dead agreeing with someone who sounds so unintelligent. If "my little group" and I bother you so much, why engage? I'm thinking you secretly like it.
I said that I knew it was a public forum, I'm not asking you to leave, I just personally think its a little silly that you stick around, because you seem to be so irritated by the most common questions that come up here.
It makes me angry to see so many innocent posters asking a question during this new and vulnerable time in their lives and having people respond with contempt and disgust instead of compassion, or at minimum some polite level of discourse. I don't know what school of manners you learned from that feels so strongly about baby shower etiquette but thinks that nosugarcoatings initial response of 'It's not your place to be involved. A shower is a gift to you. It's incredibly rude to dictate how that gift is given' is a normal and polite way to start a discourse and answer a question but its not the one I learned. What I like (very openly, not secretly) is having another voice present that is not hateful and name calling, but that thinks that the way you all handle yourselves is rude and mean. I hope that when OPs see that, or whoever else disagrees with you, that they realize they aren't as wrong or horrible as you all make them out to be. I also don't particularly like hearing people talk who have zero interest in even attempting to see where the other side is coming from. I imagine you post with just as much fervor because you feel passionately about having really strong opinions about etiquette said over and over again to drill it into people's heads.
I did not jump in to agree with that particular poster (I disagreed with the dig on SAHM for whatever that's worth and certainly don't think she expressed herself in the most useful or constructive way), I jumped in to state an opinion that happened to be the same as hers. I have no expectation that anything I say will change the way you act or think. If it bothers you that two people happen to feel the same way about how you handle yourself here, than that's your problem, not mine.
Ah yes. The echo chamber that is these few posters on the bump. Not only do they need to disagree with you (totally fine), but they also will beat the horse until it's dead five times over. There is no agree to disagree or room for other opinions. And if you happen to pop in to support the other side you're labeled a white knight or a histrionic loony. There's just no winning. I would check out your birth month board, those are much nicer generally.
I guess some of us are stronger debaters than others. No need to cry about it, sweetie.
Lol. It's funny how you get heated about someone resorting to name calling in the previous post and then immediately respond to me with such a 'mean girls' post. What's next? The gifs?
I find your definition of "heated" funny. Pointing out the irony in a situation is hardly "heated" but thanks for playing anyway. Mean girls, lonely housewives, lmao! Keep 'em coming, people.
And don't worry, my gifs will come out to play soon enough. They are the best responses to butthurt.
Important clarification! I did not call you a mean girl, I said your comment was mean girl-esque! In your words I am keeping it 'klassy.' Perhaps your individual posts aren't heated, but the fact that you all descended at the call of nosugarcoating and keep responding feels like you might care a little bit.
Yes I respond! I like message boards! I'm part of several. I don't walk out of conversations that I'm a part of and I don't start calling people out of their names just because I'm on the losing side of the issue. It's called being a grown up.
I like @NoSugarCoating and the rest of these ladies so if they call, I'm here. Heaven forbid we find others that we like around here.
Did I call you a name? Been trying to be careful not to actually. It's your perogative to respond with your little group to back each other up and its ok for me to also respond that I disagree. Have to admit I've been a little curious as to why you all hang around on a 2nd tri board and jump on people when you don't seem to be in your second trimester but its a public forum. C'est la vie.
I hang around several boards here. No rule says I can't. I've been around on and off here for years. I didn't want to leave just because I gave birth and I don't have to. And as much as people know nothing about pregnancy around here, they can use people who have actually read a book or two on the subject.
YOU didn't call me a name, that other poster did. You just jumped in to agree with her, for whatever reason. I wouldn't be caught dead agreeing with someone who sounds so unintelligent. If "my little group" and I bother you so much, why engage? I'm thinking you secretly like it.
I said that I knew it was a public forum, I'm not asking you to leave, I just personally think its a little silly that you stick around, because you seem to be so irritated by the most common questions that come up here.
It makes me angry to see so many innocent posters asking a question during this new and vulnerable time in their lives and having people respond with contempt and disgust instead of compassion, or at minimum some polite level of discourse. I don't know what school of manners you learned from that feels so strongly about baby shower etiquette but thinks that nosugarcoatings initial response of 'It's not your place to be involved. A shower is a gift to you. It's incredibly rude to dictate how that gift is given' is a normal and polite way to start a discourse and answer a question but its not the one I learned. What I like (very openly, not secretly) is having another voice present that is not hateful and name calling, but that thinks that the way you all handle yourselves is rude and mean. I hope that when OPs see that, or whoever else disagrees with you, that they realize they aren't as wrong or horrible as you all make them out to be. I also don't particularly like hearing people talk who have zero interest in even attempting to see where the other side is coming from. I imagine you post with just as much fervor because you feel passionately about having really strong opinions about etiquette said over and over again to drill it into people's heads.
I did not jump in to agree with that particular poster (I disagreed with the dig on SAHM for whatever that's worth and certainly don't think she expressed herself in the most useful or constructive way), I jumped in to state an opinion that happened to be the same as hers. I have no expectation that anything I say will change the way you act or think. If it bothers you that two people happen to feel the same way about how you handle yourself here, than that's your problem, not mine.
Making a statement=/= being mean or rude. We've been through this before. Nothing I said was mean or rude. @NoSugarCoating is quite blunt but nothing she said was mean. I like that about her. Whatever tone you get from these words is on you. I'm tired of these sensitive sneuxflakes who can't handle anything written without a zillion smiley faces and hahaha's. I don't owe you or anyone here anything whatsoever. So you once again pop up to blather on and on about how you don't like our responses. I've told you before: I DON'T CARE. Keep wasting your energy if you want to but maybe it's time to get over it. It's only making you angrier.....
Ah yes. The echo chamber that is these few posters on the bump. Not only do they need to disagree with you (totally fine), but they also will beat the horse until it's dead five times over. There is no agree to disagree or room for other opinions. And if you happen to pop in to support the other side you're labeled a white knight or a histrionic loony. There's just no winning. I would check out your birth month board, those are much nicer generally.
I guess some of us are stronger debaters than others. No need to cry about it, sweetie.
Lol. It's funny how you get heated about someone resorting to name calling in the previous post and then immediately respond to me with such a 'mean girls' post. What's next? The gifs?
I find your definition of "heated" funny. Pointing out the irony in a situation is hardly "heated" but thanks for playing anyway. Mean girls, lonely housewives, lmao! Keep 'em coming, people.
And don't worry, my gifs will come out to play soon enough. They are the best responses to butthurt.
Important clarification! I did not call you a mean girl, I said your comment was mean girl-esque! In your words I am keeping it 'klassy.' Perhaps your individual posts aren't heated, but the fact that you all descended at the call of nosugarcoating and keep responding feels like you might care a little bit.
Yes I respond! I like message boards! I'm part of several. I don't walk out of conversations that I'm a part of and I don't start calling people out of their names just because I'm on the losing side of the issue. It's called being a grown up.
I like @NoSugarCoating and the rest of these ladies so if they call, I'm here. Heaven forbid we find others that we like around here.
Did I call you a name? Been trying to be careful not to actually. It's your perogative to respond with your little group to back each other up and its ok for me to also respond that I disagree. Have to admit I've been a little curious as to why you all hang around on a 2nd tri board and jump on people when you don't seem to be in your second trimester but its a public forum. C'est la vie.
I hang around several boards here. No rule says I can't. I've been around on and off here for years. I didn't want to leave just because I gave birth and I don't have to. And as much as people know nothing about pregnancy around here, they can use people who have actually read a book or two on the subject.
YOU didn't call me a name, that other poster did. You just jumped in to agree with her, for whatever reason. I wouldn't be caught dead agreeing with someone who sounds so unintelligent. If "my little group" and I bother you so much, why engage? I'm thinking you secretly like it.
I said that I knew it was a public forum, I'm not asking you to leave, I just personally think its a little silly that you stick around, because you seem to be so irritated by the most common questions that come up here.
It makes me angry to see so many innocent posters asking a question during this new and vulnerable time in their lives and having people respond with contempt and disgust instead of compassion, or at minimum some polite level of discourse. I don't know what school of manners you learned from that feels so strongly about baby shower etiquette but thinks that nosugarcoatings initial response of 'It's not your place to be involved. A shower is a gift to you. It's incredibly rude to dictate how that gift is given' is a normal and polite way to start a discourse and answer a question but its not the one I learned. What I like (very openly, not secretly) is having another voice present that is not hateful and name calling, but that thinks that the way you all handle yourselves is rude and mean. I hope that when OPs see that, or whoever else disagrees with you, that they realize they aren't as wrong or horrible as you all make them out to be. I also don't particularly like hearing people talk who have zero interest in even attempting to see where the other side is coming from. I imagine you post with just as much fervor because you feel passionately about having really strong opinions about etiquette said over and over again to drill it into people's heads.
I did not jump in to agree with that particular poster (I disagreed with the dig on SAHM for whatever that's worth and certainly don't think she expressed herself in the most useful or constructive way), I jumped in to state an opinion that happened to be the same as hers. I have no expectation that anything I say will change the way you act or think. If it bothers you that two people happen to feel the same way about how you handle yourself here, than that's your problem, not mine.
Making a statement=/= being mean or rude. We've been through this before. Nothing I said was mean or rude. @NoSugarCoating is quite blunt but nothing she said was mean. I like that about her. Whatever tone you get from these words is on you. I'm tired of these sensitive sneuxflakes who can't handle anything written without a zillion smiley faces and hahaha's. I don't owe you or anyone here anything whatsoever. So you once again pop up to blather on and on about how you don't like our responses. I've told you before: I DON'T CARE. Keep wasting your energy if you want to but maybe it's time to get over it. It's only making you angrier.....
Oh really? So what do you define saying people have low intelligenc/unintelligent, that people are tacky, that people are shameful (all things you have posted in this thread)? Those are not statements, they are subjective opinions, and rude ones, so lets not rewrite history. Just because something isn't a curse word doens't mean it's not an insult. Of course you don't owe me anything, never asked you for anything either. I'm just participating in an online forum. You seem to be wasting just as much energy, I don't know why you're so hung up on me continuing to respond, as if that in and of itself is offensive to you.
Ah yes. The echo chamber that is these few posters on the bump. Not only do they need to disagree with you (totally fine), but they also will beat the horse until it's dead five times over. There is no agree to disagree or room for other opinions. And if you happen to pop in to support the other side you're labeled a white knight or a histrionic loony. There's just no winning. I would check out your birth month board, those are much nicer generally.
I guess some of us are stronger debaters than others. No need to cry about it, sweetie.
Lol. It's funny how you get heated about someone resorting to name calling in the previous post and then immediately respond to me with such a 'mean girls' post. What's next? The gifs?
I find your definition of "heated" funny. Pointing out the irony in a situation is hardly "heated" but thanks for playing anyway. Mean girls, lonely housewives, lmao! Keep 'em coming, people.
And don't worry, my gifs will come out to play soon enough. They are the best responses to butthurt.
Important clarification! I did not call you a mean girl, I said your comment was mean girl-esque! In your words I am keeping it 'klassy.' Perhaps your individual posts aren't heated, but the fact that you all descended at the call of nosugarcoating and keep responding feels like you might care a little bit.
Yes I respond! I like message boards! I'm part of several. I don't walk out of conversations that I'm a part of and I don't start calling people out of their names just because I'm on the losing side of the issue. It's called being a grown up.
I like @NoSugarCoating and the rest of these ladies so if they call, I'm here. Heaven forbid we find others that we like around here.
Did I call you a name? Been trying to be careful not to actually. It's your perogative to respond with your little group to back each other up and its ok for me to also respond that I disagree. Have to admit I've been a little curious as to why you all hang around on a 2nd tri board and jump on people when you don't seem to be in your second trimester but its a public forum. C'est la vie.
I hang around several boards here. No rule says I can't. I've been around on and off here for years. I didn't want to leave just because I gave birth and I don't have to. And as much as people know nothing about pregnancy around here, they can use people who have actually read a book or two on the subject.
YOU didn't call me a name, that other poster did. You just jumped in to agree with her, for whatever reason. I wouldn't be caught dead agreeing with someone who sounds so unintelligent. If "my little group" and I bother you so much, why engage? I'm thinking you secretly like it.
I said that I knew it was a public forum, I'm not asking you to leave, I just personally think its a little silly that you stick around, because you seem to be so irritated by the most common questions that come up here.
It makes me angry to see so many innocent posters asking a question during this new and vulnerable time in their lives and having people respond with contempt and disgust instead of compassion, or at minimum some polite level of discourse. I don't know what school of manners you learned from that feels so strongly about baby shower etiquette but thinks that nosugarcoatings initial response of 'It's not your place to be involved. A shower is a gift to you. It's incredibly rude to dictate how that gift is given' is a normal and polite way to start a discourse and answer a question but its not the one I learned. What I like (very openly, not secretly) is having another voice present that is not hateful and name calling, but that thinks that the way you all handle yourselves is rude and mean. I hope that when OPs see that, or whoever else disagrees with you, that they realize they aren't as wrong or horrible as you all make them out to be. I also don't particularly like hearing people talk who have zero interest in even attempting to see where the other side is coming from. I imagine you post with just as much fervor because you feel passionately about having really strong opinions about etiquette said over and over again to drill it into people's heads.
I did not jump in to agree with that particular poster (I disagreed with the dig on SAHM for whatever that's worth and certainly don't think she expressed herself in the most useful or constructive way), I jumped in to state an opinion that happened to be the same as hers. I have no expectation that anything I say will change the way you act or think. If it bothers you that two people happen to feel the same way about how you handle yourself here, than that's your problem, not mine.
Making a statement=/= being mean or rude. We've been through this before. Nothing I said was mean or rude. @NoSugarCoating is quite blunt but nothing she said was mean. I like that about her. Whatever tone you get from these words is on you. I'm tired of these sensitive sneuxflakes who can't handle anything written without a zillion smiley faces and hahaha's. I don't owe you or anyone here anything whatsoever. So you once again pop up to blather on and on about how you don't like our responses. I've told you before: I DON'T CARE. Keep wasting your energy if you want to but maybe it's time to get over it. It's only making you angrier.....
Oh really? So what do you define saying people have low intelligenc/unintelligent, that people are tacky, that people are shameful (all things you have posted in this thread)? Those are not statements, they are subjective opinions, and rude ones, so lets not rewrite history. Just because something isn't a curse word doens't mean it's not an insult. Of course you don't owe me anything, never asked you for anything either. I'm just participating in an online forum. You seem to be wasting just as much energy, I don't know why you're so hung up on me continuing to respond, as if that in and of itself is offensive to you.
Lolol. "Unintelligent" is the nicest word for that particular poster. Saying that ACTIONS are tacky=/=calling people tacky. Saying that ACTIONS are shameful=/=saying that person is shameful. There's a difference.
What I'm hung up on is that this is the second time you started whining about how people respond here. If you want to participate in the thread, I can't stop you. I can't stop you from your incessant whining. But your sole contribution is to be a WK and it's so played out. Agreeing is one thing but you didn't just do that. You felt like you also had to call people out for having strong opinions and **gasp!** having friends here. (BTW, etiquette isn't an "opinion". Look it up) I don't like your style but I don't constantly whine about it either. Because hey, it's useless. And annoying.
Ah yes. The echo chamber that is these few posters on the bump. Not only do they need to disagree with you (totally fine), but they also will beat the horse until it's dead five times over. There is no agree to disagree or room for other opinions. And if you happen to pop in to support the other side you're labeled a white knight or a histrionic loony. There's just no winning. I would check out your birth month board, those are much nicer generally.
I guess some of us are stronger debaters than others. No need to cry about it, sweetie.
Lol. It's funny how you get heated about someone resorting to name calling in the previous post and then immediately respond to me with such a 'mean girls' post. What's next? The gifs?
I find your definition of "heated" funny. Pointing out the irony in a situation is hardly "heated" but thanks for playing anyway. Mean girls, lonely housewives, lmao! Keep 'em coming, people. And don't worry, my gifs will come out to play soon enough. They are the best responses to butthurt.
Important clarification! I did not call you a mean girl, I said your comment was mean girl-esque! In your words I am keeping it 'klassy.' Perhaps your individual posts aren't heated, but the fact that you all descended at the call of nosugarcoating and keep responding feels like you might care a little bit.
Yes I respond! I like message boards! I'm part of several. I don't walk out of conversations that I'm a part of and I don't start calling people out of their names just because I'm on the losing side of the issue. It's called being a grown up. I like @NoSugarCoating and the rest of these ladies so if they call, I'm here. Heaven forbid we find others that we like around here.
Did I call you a name? Been trying to be careful not to actually. It's your perogative to respond with your little group to back each other up and its ok for me to also respond that I disagree. Have to admit I've been a little curious as to why you all hang around on a 2nd tri board and jump on people when you don't seem to be in your second trimester but its a public forum. C'est la vie.
I hang around several boards here. No rule says I can't. I've been around on and off here for years. I didn't want to leave just because I gave birth and I don't have to. And as much as people know nothing about pregnancy around here, they can use people who have actually read a book or two on the subject. YOU didn't call me a name, that other poster did. You just jumped in to agree with her, for whatever reason. I wouldn't be caught dead agreeing with someone who sounds so unintelligent. If "my little group" and I bother you so much, why engage? I'm thinking you secretly like it.
I said that I knew it was a public forum, I'm not asking you to leave, I just personally think its a little silly that you stick around, because you seem to be so irritated by the most common questions that come up here.
It makes me angry to see so many innocent posters asking a question during this new and vulnerable time in their lives and having people respond with contempt and disgust instead of compassion, or at minimum some polite level of discourse. I don't know what school of manners you learned from that feels so strongly about baby shower etiquette but thinks that nosugarcoatings initial response of 'It's not your place to be involved. A shower is a gift to you. It's incredibly rude to dictate how that gift is given' is a normal and polite way to start a discourse and answer a question but its not the one I learned. What I like (very openly, not secretly) is having another voice present that is not hateful and name calling, but that thinks that the way you all handle yourselves is rude and mean. I hope that when OPs see that, or whoever else disagrees with you, that they realize they aren't as wrong or horrible as you all make them out to be. I also don't particularly like hearing people talk who have zero interest in even attempting to see where the other side is coming from. I imagine you post with just as much fervor because you feel passionately about having really strong opinions about etiquette said over and over again to drill it into people's heads.
I did not jump in to agree with that particular poster (I disagreed with the dig on SAHM for whatever that's worth and certainly don't think she expressed herself in the most useful or constructive way), I jumped in to state an opinion that happened to be the same as hers. I have no expectation that anything I say will change the way you act or think. If it bothers you that two people happen to feel the same way about how you handle yourself here, than that's your problem, not mine.
Making a statement=/= being mean or rude. We've been through this before. Nothing I said was mean or rude. @NoSugarCoating is quite blunt but nothing she said was mean. I like that about her. Whatever tone you get from these words is on you. I'm tired of these sensitive sneuxflakes who can't handle anything written without a zillion smiley faces and hahaha's. I don't owe you or anyone here anything whatsoever. So you once again pop up to blather on and on about how you don't like our responses. I've told you before: I DON'T CARE. Keep wasting your energy if you want to but maybe it's time to get over it. It's only making you angrier.....
Oh really? So what do you define saying people have low intelligenc/unintelligent, that people are tacky, that people are shameful (all things you have posted in this thread)? Those are not statements, they are subjective opinions, and rude ones, so lets not rewrite history. Just because something isn't a curse word doens't mean it's not an insult. Of course you don't owe me anything, never asked you for anything either. I'm just participating in an online forum. You seem to be wasting just as much energy, I don't know why you're so hung up on me continuing to respond, as if that in and of itself is offensive to you.
Lolol. "Unintelligent" is the nicest word for that particular poster. Saying that ACTIONS are tacky=/=calling people tacky. Saying that ACTIONS are shameful=/=saying that person is shameful. There's a difference. What I'm hung up on is that this is the second time you started whining about how people respond here. If you want to participate in the thread, I can't stop you. I can't stop you from your incessant whining. But your sole contribution is to be a WK and it's so played out. Agreeing is one thing but you didn't just do that. You felt like you also had to call people out for having strong opinions and **gasp!** having friends here. (BTW, etiquette isn't an "opinion". Look it up) I don't like your style but I don't constantly whine about it either. Because hey, it's useless. And annoying.
Eh, semantics, telling someone they believe in something tacky and calling them tacky aren't too far apart (just like you could call me out on saying your post being mean-girly was really me saying I think you are mean-girly and have a pretty fair point). I have no problem with people having strong opinions, I have them myself. I have a problem with people who state their opinion, get validation, hear that someone disagrees, and feels the need to then state their strong opinion again and again and again. Etiquette rules vary across region/country and evolve as time goes on, it's simply not a set of fixed facts. It is a set of standards that evolve over time and differ from place to place.
To be fair, the first time I engaged with you I actually really cared about the topic and attemped to have a discourse about the actual subject. You just kept telling me I was wrong and called me a white knight. This time, yes, I am simply expressing my opnions about how you and your regulars go after people. But like you said, its a public forum, I can talk about whatever I want and respond to whoever I want. I don't really think I'm white knighting, I'm not really defending OP or the angry poster, this is just actually my opinion about how everyone reacted (and what I read from you guys on threads all the time that I don't comment on). And dude, you have been whining about my style just as much as I whine about yours, what do you think this back and forth has been? You could have just accepted that I don't like you very much, instead you want to berate me about it and go back and forth. I am not losing any sleep over you not liking me, let it go, not everyone likes everyone.
@chelsea+summer You will have to remember that around these parts you don't want to do anything to upset particular posters because they will try to gang up on you. It's best to ignore most of them as they're some of the biggest bitches you'll find. Most of them think they're doctors, expert party planners, or even counselors. In reality most of them are stay at home mom's with nothing better to do than roam the forums at TheBump and try to push people around to feel better about their lonely pathetic lives.
PrimRose is a perfect example of this. Whatever she says...do the opposite and you should be just fine.
Feel better now?
LOL to all of this. So disgruntled. Name calling is always klassy.
Hey @PrimRoseMama Like you said, some people just can't handle the awesomeness ;;)
Because my life is so lonely & pathetic. Hahah!!!!
It's really hysterical how the WKs think others are mean bitches when they are always the ones who have the most vile things to say. They want to call people out while calling them all sorts of names. The irony is ridiculous.
You can always tell when someone loses an argument when they resort to name calling. It's a sign of lower intelligence.
Truth.
Also, I must point out that callouts like @Sparky65 did to me are against terms of service. I disagreed politely & was bashed for being a SAHM. I would think that someone with a full, loved & healthy emotional state would not resort to acting in such a way.
Not that I have to justify my life to anyone, much less an internet stranger-hater-- but I have tons of friends IRL (and online). Two beautiful kids & a loving, supportive husband that fully endorses my choice to SAHM.
My participation online is strictly for entertainment. I don't feel that disagreement warrants name-calling & bashing of personal lives.
It sounds kind of like jealousy & mommy-wars-baiting. The out-right classification that SAHM "have nothing to do" (except you know parent my kids 24/7 in the home) is offensive & petty. It doesn't surprise me though given the tactless, tasteless & aggressive response from this Sparky person.
It's ok, haters gonna hate. Nothing some internet stranger-hater says will make me feel bad about my choices or the extreme amount of awesome that is my life.
@csy2947 you're "right". I didn't even read what you wrote because head/desk. So you're just "right" with whatever you're blathering on about still. You annoy the everliving shit out of me and I simply can't be bothered anymore.
Hi - I barely made it through the comments on this post. The majority were unnecessarily harsh considering the light hearted subject matter.
I'm throwing my own party, I'm inviting all my friends/family, male and female, animals and babies. We're having a Baby-Q so will be serving food all day long. Our close friends are involved in helping us with set-up/take down. Yes, it's for the baby, for our family, and it's also for our friends/family. They want to contribute to our child's beginnings, we want to bless them and thank them by throwing a fun party with lots of food. Men often contribute as much to the gift as the women, so why exclude them?
I've been to a ton of showers and never once felt like it was a money or gift grab. I was and am always happy to be invited and to have the opportunity to contribute to their wee person's beginnings. The intent of the party doesn't change just because your friend invited people for you and organized it. We're just keeping it real, letting people know what kinds of things we know we'll need, and thanking them for their love and gifts by throwing an awesome party!
Do what you feel is best for you and your baby and your family lady. If people see it as a money/gift grab I would sincerely question what kind of friends they are and if I really want them in my life. In the end that's really all that matters Have a fabulous day no matter what and congratulations on your baby!!
Every relationship is different. I was resistant to the idea of a baby shower, but my friends really wanted to do one, which was super sweet of them. So I agreed with some conditions, first and foremost, to make it about all of us getting together and hanging out and celebrating (what I certainly agree is) an amazing occasion. I know that my family and friends will get me gifts to help out party or no party, and my more peripheral friends and acquaintances don't need to be forced to pay-to-play, or feel like they have to pay-to-play. Second, that we keep it simple - make it completely and absolutely no madness. I know just how much completely crazy shit is going on in their lives, and having a pile of planning work/stress to deal with is not any kind of gift that I want to receive. Beyond that, i just wanted to follow up on date, guest list (no frenemies), and that I wanted to help with prep/food is possible, since we are all into cooking.
This isn't unreasonable, and if my friends, who have known me for 20+ years have a problem with these basic preferences, then they clearly have me mistaken for someone else. And that's what I mean by relationships being different. If you friend is someone who will want to help set up and feel bad about themselves if they can't help out, then wtf? I would worry sick if I thought they might need to do more than that - what sort of gift would making me feel shitty be???
@chelsea+summer To your original question I have actually seen several great articles on here with party ideas ranging from what type of party (BBQ, luncheon, tea, co-ed etc etc) to color schemes and themes to lots of game ideas (traditional and non-traditional, for all types of showers). If you just search in the search feature I think they should pop up? I found them when I was browsing through (once you find one they tend to link to all the others at the bottom). Good luck! I actually really enjoyed reading them and felt like I got some good ideas for my friend's shower!
Re: Baby shower themes and ideas please!!
I like @NoSugarCoating and the rest of these ladies so if they call, I'm here. Heaven forbid we find others that we like around here.
YOU didn't call me a name, that other poster did. You just jumped in to agree with her, for whatever reason. I wouldn't be caught dead agreeing with someone who sounds so unintelligent. If "my little group" and I bother you so much, why engage? I'm thinking you secretly like it.
I said that I knew it was a public forum, I'm not asking you to leave, I just personally think its a little silly that you stick around, because you seem to be so irritated by the most common questions that come up here.
It makes me angry to see so many innocent posters asking a question during this new and vulnerable time in their lives and having people respond with contempt and disgust instead of compassion, or at minimum some polite level of discourse. I don't know what school of manners you learned from that feels so strongly about baby shower etiquette but thinks that nosugarcoatings initial response of 'It's not your place to be involved. A shower is a gift to you. It's incredibly rude to dictate how that gift is given' is a normal and polite way to start a discourse and answer a question but its not the one I learned. What I like (very openly, not secretly) is having another voice present that is not hateful and name calling, but that thinks that the way you all handle yourselves is rude and mean. I hope that when OPs see that, or whoever else disagrees with you, that they realize they aren't as wrong or horrible as you all make them out to be. I also don't particularly like hearing people talk who have zero interest in even attempting to see where the other side is coming from. I imagine you post with just as much fervor because you feel passionately about having really strong opinions about etiquette said over and over again to drill it into people's heads.
I did not jump in to agree with that particular poster (I disagreed with the dig on SAHM for whatever that's worth and certainly don't think she expressed herself in the most useful or constructive way), I jumped in to state an opinion that happened to be the same as hers. I have no expectation that anything I say will change the way you act or think. If it bothers you that two people happen to feel the same way about how you handle yourself here, than that's your problem, not mine.
What I'm hung up on is that this is the second time you started whining about how people respond here. If you want to participate in the thread, I can't stop you. I can't stop you from your incessant whining. But your sole contribution is to be a WK and it's so played out. Agreeing is one thing but you didn't just do that. You felt like you also had to call people out for having strong opinions and **gasp!** having friends here. (BTW, etiquette isn't an "opinion". Look it up) I don't like your style but I don't constantly whine about it either. Because hey, it's useless. And annoying.
Eh, semantics, telling someone they believe in something tacky and calling them tacky aren't too far apart (just like you could call me out on saying your post being mean-girly was really me saying I think you are mean-girly and have a pretty fair point). I have no problem with people having strong opinions, I have them myself. I have a problem with people who state their opinion, get validation, hear that someone disagrees, and feels the need to then state their strong opinion again and again and again. Etiquette rules vary across region/country and evolve as time goes on, it's simply not a set of fixed facts. It is a set of standards that evolve over time and differ from place to place.
To be fair, the first time I engaged with you I actually really cared about the topic and attemped to have a discourse about the actual subject. You just kept telling me I was wrong and called me a white knight. This time, yes, I am simply expressing my opnions about how you and your regulars go after people. But like you said, its a public forum, I can talk about whatever I want and respond to whoever I want. I don't really think I'm white knighting, I'm not really defending OP or the angry poster, this is just actually my opinion about how everyone reacted (and what I read from you guys on threads all the time that I don't comment on). And dude, you have been whining about my style just as much as I whine about yours, what do you think this back and forth has been? You could have just accepted that I don't like you very much, instead you want to berate me about it and go back and forth. I am not losing any sleep over you not liking me, let it go, not everyone likes everyone.
And, if the English teacher in me were to come out, that isn't actually a theme. It's a topic - as are most "themes" in this context.
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Also, I must point out that callouts like @Sparky65 did to me are against terms of service. I disagreed politely & was bashed for being a SAHM. I would think that someone with a full, loved & healthy emotional state would not resort to acting in such a way.
Not that I have to justify my life to anyone, much less an internet stranger-hater-- but I have tons of friends IRL (and online). Two beautiful kids & a loving, supportive husband that fully endorses my choice to SAHM.
My participation online is strictly for entertainment. I don't feel that disagreement warrants name-calling & bashing of personal lives.
It sounds kind of like jealousy & mommy-wars-baiting. The out-right classification that SAHM "have nothing to do" (except you know parent my kids 24/7 in the home) is offensive & petty. It doesn't surprise me though given the tactless, tasteless & aggressive response from this Sparky person.
It's ok, haters gonna hate. Nothing some internet stranger-hater says will make me feel bad about my choices or the extreme amount of awesome that is my life.
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Hi - I barely made it through the comments on this post. The majority were unnecessarily harsh considering the light hearted subject matter.
I'm throwing my own party, I'm inviting all my friends/family, male and female, animals and babies. We're having a Baby-Q so will be serving food all day long. Our close friends are involved in helping us with set-up/take down. Yes, it's for the baby, for our family, and it's also for our friends/family. They want to contribute to our child's beginnings, we want to bless them and thank them by throwing a fun party with lots of food. Men often contribute as much to the gift as the women, so why exclude them?
I've been to a ton of showers and never once felt like it was a money or gift grab. I was and am always happy to be invited and to have the opportunity to contribute to their wee person's beginnings. The intent of the party doesn't change just because your friend invited people for you and organized it. We're just keeping it real, letting people know what kinds of things we know we'll need, and thanking them for their love and gifts by throwing an awesome party!
Do what you feel is best for you and your baby and your family lady. If people see it as a money/gift grab I would sincerely question what kind of friends they are and if I really want them in my life. In the end that's really all that matters
Have a fabulous day no matter what and congratulations on your baby!!