Secondary IF

Clomid Question

Hello, I was a part of this group a while ago before I conceived my second child. I ended up getting pregnant with him on my second round of 50mg Clomid days 3-7. He is now a happy busy boy and we have been trying to have another child but alas it seems it is just a difficult as with him. When my husband had his analysis it showed he had a good count but low motility and morphology but not so bad that it should prevent us from getting pregnant naturally. I checked out fine and don't have any trouble ovulating. They decided to try Clomid last time in hopes that I would release more than one egg to give the sperm more targets. Obviously it worked so therefore, we tried the same thing this time. I have now completed 2 rounds of 50 mg Clomid days 3-7 again but no BFP. My question is I'm trying to decide if I should continue trying this same protocol or move onto something else or just take a break. I know too many rounds of Clomid in a row can thin your lining and don't want to cause that. Anyone here have any luck with Clomid after the first couple rounds or did you find you needed to up your dose or move onto IUI etc. I will also be speaking with my doctor about our next move but thought I'd gather some advice from others who have maybe been in a similar situation!! Thanks in advance!! :-)

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Re: Clomid Question

  • How long have you been trying this time? 


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    DD1 July 31, 2011

    Trying for #2 since Oct 11
    732973 Clomid Cycles
    2 IUIs 
    3 Fresh IVFs= 1 Ectopic treated with MTX
    Spontaneous pregnancy #2= Ectopic #2= lost left tube
    Spontaneous pregnancy #3= DD2 January 29, 2016
    Spontaneous pregnancy #4= Ectopic #3
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  • Just since I got my cycle back after having my son as we wanted to start as soon as possible since it took so long to get pregnant with him so 9 months or so but only 2 months with Clomid as we were hoping maybe it would happen naturally this time but since it hadn't yet our doctor decided we may as well just start on the clomid again since it worked last time :-)

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  • How do you feel about trying naturally a bit longer? Are you eager to push treatments now, or what? Personally I would not want to do too many consecutive Clomid cycle, it builds up over time, and just causes a hormonal nightmare- but that's up to you. 


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    DD1 July 31, 2011

    Trying for #2 since Oct 11
    732973 Clomid Cycles
    2 IUIs 
    3 Fresh IVFs= 1 Ectopic treated with MTX
    Spontaneous pregnancy #2= Ectopic #2= lost left tube
    Spontaneous pregnancy #3= DD2 January 29, 2016
    Spontaneous pregnancy #4= Ectopic #3
    Spontaneous pregnancy #5= Baby #3 is a BOY!!! 



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  • Ya that's kind of where I'm at is that it definitely builds up and I don't want it to get worse than it already is symptom wise or cause any damage that I don't need to. On the other hand I'm nervous about ending up taking a really long time getting pregnant again as we always wanted to have 4 kids but would have liked to be finished by next year when my husband turns 35 so we've already been discussing just stopping after 3 if it doesn't happen very soon...I feel like we should probably take a break if the odds aren't in our favor that it would work soon but wanted to hear some other experiences to see how more rounds of clomid effected others or if it worked for them or if maybe a different treatment made a difference :-)

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  • I think I did a total of 4 rounds of clomid. It made me a crazy person with the hormonal changes. And my lining did start to thin out. They then switched me to femara which was so much better. After two rounds of just clomid I started doing IUIs. Good luck. 
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    Me: 35, DH: 40
    TTC # 2 since 8/13, Dx: unexplained secondary infertility
    Clomid cycles 7/14 & 8/14= BFN
    IUI # 1 (clomid) 8/27/14= BFN
    IUI # 2 (clomid and follistim) 9/25/14= BFN
    IUI # 3 (femara and follistim) 10/23/14= BFN
    IUI # 4 (femara and follistim) 11/20/14= BFN
    12/12/14- saline sono shows two polyps
    2/15- two uterine polyps and "schmutz" (RE's words) removed
    8/15- surprise BFP! Beta #1 70 Beta #2 150 
  • Thanks jen4ny, I have already noticed increased side effects and hormonal changes after 2 rounds so I assumed it just got worse the longer you take it, maybe I should ask my doctor about femara, does it have any negative side effects or thin your lining like clomid? I don't have any experience with it at all so maybe it would be a good thing to look into :-)

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  • Check out the Trouble Trying For A Sibling board. I think you will find that is a better fit for this stage you are currently in. Good luck. 


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    DD1 July 31, 2011

    Trying for #2 since Oct 11
    732973 Clomid Cycles
    2 IUIs 
    3 Fresh IVFs= 1 Ectopic treated with MTX
    Spontaneous pregnancy #2= Ectopic #2= lost left tube
    Spontaneous pregnancy #3= DD2 January 29, 2016
    Spontaneous pregnancy #4= Ectopic #3
    Spontaneous pregnancy #5= Baby #3 is a BOY!!! 



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  • Oh sorry, I thought that group was for people that weren't ready to use meds or other treatments yet? I must have misread their description, thanks again! :-)

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  • I haven't ever tried clomid but I didn't have any side effects on femara.  



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    BFP #1 7/21/2013--EDD 3/30/14--D&C 9/24/13
    BFP #2 1/28/14--MC 2/7/14

    IUI #1 5mg Femara + trigger = BFN
    IUI #2 5mg Femara + trigger = BFN
    IUI #3 5mg Femara + trigger = BFN
    IVF #1, Stimmed for 12 days, ER 8/22/14, 9 retrieved, 7M, 7F!!  Freeze all due to fluid in uterus.
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    3/26/15 transferred one 8 cell grade 4 embryo and one 6 cell grade 3 embryo = slow rising betas for 2+ weeks = ectopic MTX shot 4/29/15
    Repeat c-scar surgery June 2015
    2nd and last IVF cycle August 2015, stimmed for 12 days, 2 egg retrieved, both mature and both fertilized.  Transferred both 8-cell embryos on Day 3, beta 9/5/15 = BFFN
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  • I had no side effects with femara and it is not supposed to thin your lining like clomid. 
    "From the moment I first saw you, the second that you were born, I knew that you were the love of my life" Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker
    Me: 35, DH: 40
    TTC # 2 since 8/13, Dx: unexplained secondary infertility
    Clomid cycles 7/14 & 8/14= BFN
    IUI # 1 (clomid) 8/27/14= BFN
    IUI # 2 (clomid and follistim) 9/25/14= BFN
    IUI # 3 (femara and follistim) 10/23/14= BFN
    IUI # 4 (femara and follistim) 11/20/14= BFN
    12/12/14- saline sono shows two polyps
    2/15- two uterine polyps and "schmutz" (RE's words) removed
    8/15- surprise BFP! Beta #1 70 Beta #2 150 
  • Clomid is evil.  letrozole was better for me, it may  be worth a shot for you. 

    Most of us are IUI/IVFers here, which is why potato directed you elsewhere.  :) Good luck

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    BFP April 2013 - Missed M/C July 2013 @ 12w6d
    BFP December 2013 - CP @ 4w3d
    Eight medicated cycles, three IUIs: FAIL
    IVF #1 Antagonist - January 2015: CP/FAIL

    IVF #2 April 2015: Microdose lupron Flare
    ICSI, CCS Freeze all
    6 blasts biopsied/5 normal

    FET #1 June 25, 2015 6AA and 5AA blast transfer
    BFP 3dp5dt!
    Beta 8dp5dt 195.2, 10dp5dt 474.8, 12dp5dt 977, 22dp5dt 25,580
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  • I also prefer Femara to Clomid. Clomid dried up all of my CM. I have EWCM for days on Femara. Clomid also made me rage.
    Me: 34 DH: 36 
    DD#1 04/28/11

    TTC#2 since April 2012 - Unexplained Secondary IF (probably PCOS)
    Dec 13-March 14 Femara and TI - BFN
    April 2014 IUI#1 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFN
    June 2014 IUI#2 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFP 7/9/14 - No HB on 8/13/14 @ 8w4d
    Nov 2014 IUI#3 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFFN
    Jan 2015 IUI#4 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFN
    Feb 2015 IUI#5 Converted to TI (7.5mg Femara) - BFP 3/17/15!!!
    Beta #1 82, Beta #2 202 Please let this be it.
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