Let's see how many people disagree. I'm sure all of you. Part of the problem.
Hi-- I am also in NY and a NY native. I grew up in Brooklyn (like I said, minutes away from where this happened). I have many, many friends and family members that are NYPD/ retired NYPD.
I agree with you- you do not say no to an officer, but there needs to be some level of compassion, on both sides. Not a shoulder shrug. Not assholes wearing disgustingly insensitive t-shirts (the "I can breathe" T shirts come to mind) Not an "oh well, he was resisting arrest, it's a shame, but he was a criminal. And black. And fat." (I know YOU didn't say this @bythebeach09 , but it's a sentiment I have heard from some.)
Also, there's a way to convey what you are trying to say, and a dumb meme with Obama isn't the way.
OP-- sorry this got away from your point. I am sure it's super scary being married to a PO under normal circumstances. Good for you for blocking this "friend".
I don't think these are mutually exclusive. I can be against the "I can't breathe and the "i can breathe" shirts. I can say "don't say no to a cop" (that's like day 1 shit right there) and also firmly believe that some officers DO overstep. A taser would've accomplished the goal in the Eric Garner case. Probably in the Tamir case as well. There are less lethal forces that can and should be utilized, but that does not mean it's ok to target a person or a race or a profession.
Of course! Some do overstep. There's racial profiling galore. There are corrupt cops. Cops are just people.
It's not OK to target anyone. None of this is OK, that's obvious.
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I bet if Obama came back from his Christmas with his family to comment in front of a podium about it, people like bythebeach would use it as proof that he's a Kenyan Muslim who hates Jesus and America.
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"I realize I say the word fuck a lot, and I'd like to apologize but I don't give a shit." -Lewis Black
This was an actual protest. I am making nothing up. Yes, the meme is stupid, but the message is on point.
That video appears on our local news, not just some conservative site. I just copied it from there. If I just used the video and not the entire article would you believe it happened, then? Cuz that's stupid.
I don't think ANY lives should be lost. It's infuriating. But the protests are NOT PRODUCTIVE the way they are being handled and they have been violent. Spitting on police officers is an assault. So is punching them. This is happening. Live in a bubble. That's good.
Yeah because police never bother people that aren't doing anything wrong. Stop and frisk isn't a thing. Nope.
I have no problem with that. I prefer a safer world.
You're part of the problem then. Because those policies overwhelmingly target certain populations and I don't think I need to state which ones.
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He may not have publicly spoken, but Obama did release a statement about the murders.
And finished his golf hole.
Oh fuck off.
:::cough::: you mean fuck off, right?
Nope
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YOURE too vested in this? Get the fuck out of here dude.
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I hadn't intended for this post to turn into this.
My apologies.
It's not your fault. LJ can do this to any thread, no matter what her current SN is.
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"So, after much thought and wanting to try have what I once did on TB, I've come back. I'll likely stay on the sidelines lurking and love titting and definitely laughing because there are some of the funniest people here, but my posts will be limited.
I just wanted to let you all know that I'm here with a new SN. I had my other account deactivated.
And I apologize for bringing the crazy.
~Bythebeach09 (formerly lisajay09) "
I was just thinking, she's learned sooo much during her bump break.
Harry Styles = Life Ruiner
There’s a lightningin your eyes I can't deny Then there’s me inside a sinkingboat running out of time Without you I'll never make it out alive But I know, yes, I know we’ll be alright
Fuck that link. That is my husband in that link. I worry about him every fucking day. There is no greater sound than the velcro of his vest coming off when he's home. Don't you dare say I betray him.
"So, after much thought and wanting to try have what I once did on TB, I've come back. I'll likely stay on the sidelines lurking and love titting and definitely laughing because there are some of the funniest people here, but my posts will be limited.
I just wanted to let you all know that I'm here with a new SN. I had my other account deactivated.
And I apologize for bringing the crazy.
~Bythebeach09 (formerly lisajay09) "
Hmmm look at that. Still bringing all the crazy and it seems you've stepped in from the sidelines
It's really asinine to think that you can't be supportive of police and police families in general AND see that there are issues that need to be addressed in police and criminal justice policies. Plenty of people here do both. Even police families. GASP.
Harry Styles = Life Ruiner
There’s a lightningin your eyes I can't deny Then there’s me inside a sinkingboat running out of time Without you I'll never make it out alive But I know, yes, I know we’ll be alright
It's really asinine to think that you can't be supportive of police and police families in general AND see that there are issues that need to be addressed in police and criminal justice policies. Plenty of people here do both. Even police families. GASP.
I drove through the Bronx twice on Saturday and the return trip was scary. There was traffic on the GW and the Cross Bronx and people were holding up 'Death to Cops' signs and there is pretty clear audio and video of protesters on the December 13th rally in NYC saying "what do we want? Dead cops. When do we want them? Now."
Maybe it is only making the news in the metro NY area, but it is pretty easy to verify.
That being said, there are always going to be asswipes that take advantage of any situation and make into a worse situation. The overwhelming majority of protesters are not these people. But, to pretend they don't exist is nonsense.
All lives matter and until apologists cut the crap on both sides and open up an actual dialogue, this ain't going to end anytime soon. You think cops were scared before? My cousin is a first year NYPD and they stuck him on the overnight shift in Bushwick. He is a petrified little kid, but he is a good kid and he will likely quit now because of this.
There is a continuum of incidents in the country where unarmed black men are being killed by police. That cannot be denied. But, we cannot allow that to lead us to a point where each incident is not viewed as a separate incident. Police need to be supported. Black need to stop being seen as hulking and violent men.
Can't link it here, but the Black Lives Matter- Birmingham facebook page has a pretty succinct list of things that can make a difference. Or at least, make a start.
I don't want to feed a troll, but apparently the media has been distorting some of the chants to sound pro-violence when they are not. I'm not suggesting that is the case in the video that was shared earlier, but it is the case in a Baltimore FOX segment.
I'm not suggesting Gawker is real news, but clearly FOX isn't either. I'm probably not adding much value. I should just say: what @ShakeyJakey said above.
If being a math nerd is wrong, I don't wanna be right!
Lol LJ is really in the trenches in Long Island. Thank god we have you to report live from the ground so we don't have to rely on liberal media!!!
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Is a general "fuck anyone who thinks stop and frisk policies are cool and not inherently racist" a TOU violation? Asking for a friend.
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@acesup I am so sorry your support thread got derailed. I really hear you and I can't imagine how hard this must be right now. Or maybe I can because I went through something similar when those EMTs were murdered a few years ago. It's so scary.
Annnnnnnnd she's gone. This whole topic in general makes me squirm. MH isn't a cop but he is a CO.
That's what my husband is. It's no less or more dangerous and they are still at risk of people in police uniforms are targeted. Law enforcement is law enforcement.
Prayers for your husband to stay safe. And anyone else's out there doing the job.
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Of course! Some do overstep. There's racial profiling galore. There are corrupt cops. Cops are just people.
It's not OK to target anyone. None of this is OK, that's obvious.
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That video appears on our local news, not just some conservative site. I just copied it from there. If I just used the video and not the entire article would you believe it happened, then? Cuz that's stupid.
I don't think ANY lives should be lost. It's infuriating. But the protests are NOT PRODUCTIVE the way they are being handled and they have been violent. Spitting on police officers is an assault. So is punching them. This is happening. Live in a bubble. That's good.
Harry Styles = Life Ruiner
There’s a lightning in your eyes I can't deny
Then there’s me inside a sinking boat running out of time
Without you I'll never make it out alive
But I know, yes, I know we’ll be alright
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Harry Styles = Life Ruiner
There’s a lightning in your eyes I can't deny
Then there’s me inside a sinking boat running out of time
Without you I'll never make it out alive
But I know, yes, I know we’ll be alright
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J. 1.14.13 my reason for breathing
This sums up much of the sentiment I'm hearing over here.
I'm too vested in this. Not going to argue.
Harry Styles = Life Ruiner
There’s a lightning in your eyes I can't deny
Then there’s me inside a sinking boat running out of time
Without you I'll never make it out alive
But I know, yes, I know we’ll be alright
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J. 1.14.13 my reason for breathing
I hadn't intended for this post to turn into this.
My apologies.
Harry Styles = Life Ruiner
There’s a lightning in your eyes I can't deny
Then there’s me inside a sinking boat running out of time
Without you I'll never make it out alive
But I know, yes, I know we’ll be alright
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J. 1.14.13 my reason for breathing
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Baby RJ, born 1/25/2014
Formerly Twilightmv
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@Bythebeach09 just stop, please
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There’s a lightning in your eyes I can't deny
Then there’s me inside a sinking boat running out of time
Without you I'll never make it out alive
But I know, yes, I know we’ll be alright
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ILY.
Thanks for being Larry into this shit thread
Greatest sound on the planet.
Nice edit.
Harry Styles = Life Ruiner
There’s a lightning in your eyes I can't deny
Then there’s me inside a sinking boat running out of time
Without you I'll never make it out alive
But I know, yes, I know we’ll be alright
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Oh my gosh.
I drove through the Bronx twice on Saturday and the return trip was scary. There was traffic on the GW and the Cross Bronx and people were holding up 'Death to Cops' signs and there is pretty clear audio and video of protesters on the December 13th rally in NYC saying "what do we want? Dead cops. When do we want them? Now."
Maybe it is only making the news in the metro NY area, but it is pretty easy to verify.
That being said, there are always going to be asswipes that take advantage of any situation and make into a worse situation. The overwhelming majority of protesters are not these people. But, to pretend they don't exist is nonsense.
All lives matter and until apologists cut the crap on both sides and open up an actual dialogue, this ain't going to end anytime soon. You think cops were scared before? My cousin is a first year NYPD and they stuck him on the overnight shift in Bushwick. He is a petrified little kid, but he is a good kid and he will likely quit now because of this.
There is a continuum of incidents in the country where unarmed black men are being killed by police. That cannot be denied. But, we cannot allow that to lead us to a point where each incident is not viewed as a separate incident. Police need to be supported. Black need to stop being seen as hulking and violent men.
Can't link it here, but the Black Lives Matter- Birmingham facebook page has a pretty succinct list of things that can make a difference. Or at least, make a start.
At least @RL got to use your gif !!
Harry Styles = Life Ruiner
There’s a lightning in your eyes I can't deny
Then there’s me inside a sinking boat running out of time
Without you I'll never make it out alive
But I know, yes, I know we’ll be alright
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J. 1.14.13 my reason for breathing
Harry Styles = Life Ruiner
There’s a lightning in your eyes I can't deny
Then there’s me inside a sinking boat running out of time
Without you I'll never make it out alive
But I know, yes, I know we’ll be alright
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J. 1.14.13 my reason for breathing
Thoughts and prayers.
Prayers for your husband to stay safe. And anyone else's out there doing the job.