FFFC????

MissDemeanor · November 2014

Dig deep people, you must have something to confess? And if you've waited all this time to admit it, it's probably pretty good

kella0708 · November 2014

danaadell said:
I'm from J14 but there is no action there (everyone left to fb) so I'm joining y'all if that's ok. My baby was born February 7.

I've blamed 2 farts on the baby this morning and dh is totally believing me.

Welcome! And I seriously LOL'd at your confession.

Karlamo · November 2014

I have a bunch of replies to threads that I typed and never clicked "post reply" on. I like to do that, write a reply and not post it. I don't know why I do this.....

MissDemeanor · November 2014

As mentioned in the randoms thread... I just snagged my bathing suit on the velcro of BF's shorts. Have done that in the past. I hate ruining expensive bikini's this way.

I don't think I've had sex in the past year, without F14 going through my mind at least once for some reason or an other.

RondackHiker · November 2014

TyrannosaurusLex said:
Jeez how exclusive is the J14 fb group? Are you ladies relatively new or something?

And if you aren't, why weren't you invited along?

RondackHiker · November 2014

Dude, @Mevaroo‌, that sucks.

Can you talk to him about it? That isn't fair. I'm not always big on everything needs to be super fair and equal and I think that's uncool.

shellbell3845 · November 2014

KatyBriggs said:
Sometimes I go to other BMBs and vote for the wacky answers in the polls.
I'm so wild. Rawr.
\m/

This would explain the votes against glitter and sparkle sweatpants...

shellbell3845 · November 2014

I dislike how DH decorates the outside of our house. I would never say anything to him because he spends a lot of time on it. But it's too much. Bright white lights, colored lights, animated icicle lights, holographic stuff, soft white... It's kind of tacky.

Flyingtoast · November 2014

I think when states call for aid for emergencies, it should be for unforseen events. A dam fails and causes flooding - worthy of state and national aid. A 6.5+ earthquake, tsunami hits and the warning systems failed, all worthy of state and federal aid. Oakland Raiders winning or loseing is not a state emergency.

A predicted huge storm causes about the predicted result but the municipalities don't prepair properly doesn't qualify. That's on the residents and the municipality to work together and resolve it.

shellbell3845 · November 2014

Flyingtoast said:
I think when states call for aid for emergencies, it should be for unforseen events. A dam fails and causes flooding - worthy of state and national aid. A 6.5+ earthquake, tsunami hits and the warning systems failed, all worthy of state and federal aid. Oakland Raiders winning or loseing is not a state emergency.

A predicted huge storm causes about the predicted result but the municipalities don't prepair properly doesn't qualify. That's on the residents and the municipality to work together and resolve it.

I think this belongs in UO.

And as someone who is living in an area that was devastated by a recent, predicted storm? You're so wrong. It is a state if emergency. Municipalities and residents were working together. But you know what? We needed the National Guard, Red Cross, FEMA, and every single cent we receive, too. Please advise on how my neighbors, my municipality, and my family could have been better prepared to deal with 80+ inches of snow and the resulting flood. Please advise on how this type of storm and that damage it causes it different from an earthquake -- just because it was predicted?

Jesus.

shellbell3845 · November 2014

Hence the term NATURAL DISASTER.

This really makes me angry.

shellbell3845 · November 2014

Bookshelves said:

Flyingtoast said:
I think when states call for aid for emergencies, it should be for unforseen events. A dam fails and causes flooding - worthy of state and national aid. A 6.5+ earthquake, tsunami hits and the warning systems failed, all worthy of state and federal aid. Oakland Raiders winning or loseing is not a state emergency.

A predicted huge storm causes about the predicted result but the municipalities don't prepair properly doesn't qualify. That's on the residents and the municipality to work together and resolve it.
Because every state and municipality gets the exact same amount of snow every winter. Color me impressed by your plan.

Exactly. I'm pretty sure my town blew through most -- if not all -- of their snow removal budget with this storm. Having aid from other towns, the state, and the federal government means they have enough money to plow the next time we get a storm. Or that they don't have to choose between salting and pothole repair. Plus we've already had two blizzards in 2014.

shellbell3845 · November 2014

TyrannosaurusLex said:
Also there are reasons some people can't leave promptly in an emergency, varying from mental health to physical disability to economic circumstance...

Sense. You make too much sense.

shellbell3845 · November 2014

Bookshelves said:
My ILs expanded their house last year, and "our room" when we stay overnight is their old room. I refuse to have sex in my ILs' old bed. That's weird, right? DH disapproved of my logic when we stayed there last night. But... :::shudder::: Ain't happening.

I would refuse to have sex in my IL's house.

shellbell3845 · November 2014

Bookshelves said:

shellbell3845 said:

TyrannosaurusLex said:
Also there are reasons some people can't leave promptly in an emergency, varying from mental health to physical disability to economic circumstance...
Sense. You make too much sense.
False. They should be prepaired for anything.

Well, not anything. Apparently earthquakes are special snowflakes. I wonder about wild fires? Tornado (which they can predict that conditions are right for those, so those people are probably out of luck? Drought?

TessyMessy · November 2014

elf828 said:
Everyone knew about Hurricane Sandy too. My state did a ton to prepare, people were ordered to evacuate (after learning lessons from Katrina) but whole towns still disappeared and people still died. The boardwalk washed away. Hospitals closed. We needed everything we got and it still wasn't enough. There is so much that hasn't and cannot be rebuilt. You can prepare all you want but you can't predict exactly what the true impact will be.

I guess tens of thousands of people without power for days or weeks, gas and food shortages and cold and damp conditions is not a state of Emergency. Sandy impacted where I grew up and where most of my family and friends live. Everyone I knew was prepared for the storm and/or evacuated if they could. My brother was a first responder during Sandy and saw things that have changed him forever.

shellbell3845 · November 2014

What happens when there are not enough first responders? Or when the first responders need a break? I mean, isn't that what emergency aid is there for? It's not because my volunteer fire dept. decided not to show up one day. It's because they all showed up for days on end and were making no headway -- same with the highway dept and the police and the troopers and the paramedics. My community has all of those things -- they're prepared for emergencies, but natural disasters require more.

Flyingtoast · November 2014

During thr SF '89 earthquake, many of the communities cleaned up without being paid. They worked together, and donated resources to make it work. The fire departments were never paid in my area because their was no money.

The resent snow storm that caused so much drama was predicted to be worse then what happened. So why then was it not managed according it the worse case posabilty. If it going to snow 100 inches in such a short amount of time (the predicted amount), there needs to be plans made for that. Why were there not crews put on standby to plow constantly on the major roads? Why was not extra equipment brought in to bolster the normal fleet of snow removal equipment? Why were those who needed extra assistance (physical and mentally) not given preventaive help? Why was there no community resource sharing plan made and published? Why was there no place to go for those who houses could not take the amount of weight that would be added from the snow? Before the storm hit, did anyone in charge think where the snow would go? It's not like melted snow just waits around for some to decide what to do.

I'm not taking about budget (because you can't budget mother nature), I'm talking about basic humanity. Everyone needs to stay dry, warm enough, feed and with sanitation. The not about being comfortable at home. The whole situation was handled so poorly it's rediclous. The residents got the short end of the stick. Here when it snows like that, the residents themselves shovel a car path on the highways to make sure it's servicable. When it snows badly, most people go to one home and share resources. Those who are older and not most there (like Mr pork and beans) are not given a choice, but forcibly moved to the fire station. For those on got assistance, the stores give a box with basics that will help them through the storm. We just had 3 ft drop over night. Everyone rallied together and check in on each other, made sure everyone had food and enough firewood. A fleet of volunteers shoveled and plowed the main roads and anyone who requested it. No 36 inches does not compared to the predicted 100 inches. But the actions would be the same up here if it were 3 ft or 100 inches, just to a different extent.

TessyMessy · November 2014

Residents shovel paths on highways where you live? I would think that is more of a hindrance to the transportation crews than a help. I would rather have a "state of emergency " where the general pop needs to stay off the roads and the professionals do their jobs.
@Flyingtoast‌ You are right on one point. You cannot compare 36" to 100" of snow. That is a lOT of snow for even the most organized community to deal with. I'm sure they were busy keeping essential roads clear like to the hospitals and police stations.

RondackHiker · November 2014

Flyingtoast said:
During thr SF '89 earthquake, many of the communities cleaned up without being paid. They worked together, and donated resources to make it work. The fire departments were never paid in my area because their was no money.

The resent snow storm that caused so much drama was predicted to be worse then what happened. So why then was it not managed according it the worse case posabilty. If it going to snow 100 inches in such a short amount of time (the predicted amount), there needs to be plans made for that. Why were there not crews put on standby to plow constantly on the major roads? Why was not extra equipment brought in to bolster the normal fleet of snow removal equipment? Why were those who needed extra assistance (physical and mentally) not given preventaive help? Why was there no community resource sharing plan made and published? Why was there no place to go for those who houses could not take the amount of weight that would be added from the snow? Before the storm hit, did anyone in charge think where the snow would go? It's not like melted snow just waits around for some to decide what to do.

I'm not taking about budget (because you can't budget mother nature), I'm talking about basic humanity. Everyone needs to stay dry, warm enough, feed and with sanitation. The not about being comfortable at home. The whole situation was handled so poorly it's rediclous. The residents got the short end of the stick. Here when it snows like that, the residents themselves shovel a car path on the highways to make sure it's servicable. When it snows badly, most people go to one home and share resources. Those who are older and not most there (like Mr pork and beans) are not given a choice, but forcibly moved to the fire station. For those on got assistance, the stores give a box with basics that will help them through the storm. We just had 3 ft drop over night. Everyone rallied together and check in on each other, made sure everyone had food and enough firewood. A fleet of volunteers shoveled and plowed the main roads and anyone who requested it. No 36 inches does not compared to the predicted 100 inches. But the actions would be the same up here if it were 3 ft or 100 inches, just to a different extent.

~quickly scans TOU~

You're acting like a complete idiot.

Basic humanity indeed.

shellbell3845 · November 2014

Flyingtoast said:

During thr SF '89 earthquake, many of the communities cleaned up without being paid. They worked together, and donated resources to make it work. The fire departments were never paid in my area because their was no money. The resent snow storm that caused so much drama was predicted to be worse then what happened. So why then was it not managed according it the worse case posabilty. If it going to snow 100 inches in such a short amount of time (the predicted amount), there needs to be plans made for that. Why were there not crews put on standby to plow constantly on the major roads? Why was not extra equipment brought in to bolster the normal fleet of snow removal equipment? Why were those who needed extra assistance (physical and mentally) not given preventaive help? Why was there no community resource sharing plan made and published? Why was there no place to go for those who houses could not take the amount of weight that would be added from the snow? Before the storm hit, did anyone in charge think where the snow would go? It's not like melted snow just waits around for some to decide what to do. I'm not taking about budget (because you can't budget mother nature), I'm talking about basic humanity. Everyone needs to stay dry, warm enough, feed and with sanitation. The not about being comfortable at home. The whole situation was handled so poorly it's rediclous. The residents got the short end of the stick. Here when it snows like that, the residents themselves shovel a car path on the highways to make sure it's servicable. When it snows badly, most people go to one home and share resources. Those who are older and not most there (like Mr pork and beans) are not given a choice, but forcibly moved to the fire station. For those on got assistance, the stores give a box with basics that will help them through the storm. We just had 3 ft drop over night. Everyone rallied together and check in on each other, made sure everyone had food and enough firewood. A fleet of volunteers shoveled and plowed the main roads and anyone who requested it. No 36 inches does not compared to the predicted 100 inches. But the actions would be the same up here if it were 3 ft or 100 inches, just to a different extent.

Are you referring to my storm in Buffalo? You wanted me to go out to the mainline thruway with my shovel? You wanted me to shovel that heavy, wet snow for any real amount of time? You know people DIED shoveling that snow? We went to bed Monday night with three inches and woke up Tuesday morning with five feet. The snow was so heavy and wet that the plows were getting stuck. Caused so much drama? Drama isn't really the right word here. People were coming unpaid from surrounding communitis to help. The Amish came. People -- volunteers -- DIED coming to help. You all can do it however you want on the homestead, but this holier than thou attitude pisses me right off (though I'm pretty sure that's your intent anyway). I can't even with you and this BS. With that, I'm out of this thread.

MissDemeanor · November 2014

personally, I'm extremely impressed that Bangsgiving lasted a whole hour. Afternoon delight in this house did not. My FFFC is that i'm ok with that. Sadly, I spent half of it wondering when it would be over.

my shift key is broken, don't judge me.

iwubrory · November 2014

Well crap, this was an entertaining late night read.
@Flyingtoast‌ WTF? Everyone said plenty already but I don't get how you can be so insensitive. I'm pretty sure you win the award for random posts that piss people off. Don't think me a venomous horcrux...

@danaadell @rgoblue‌ :-h Welcome ladies! I hope you both stick around. I'm so glad F14 resisted making an fb group.

courtls22 · November 2014

TyrannosaurusLex said:

Day after confession: we have two high chairs because of child care. On days off we just don't bother cleaning them till they're both dirty. You may see that in my IG photos X_X

Guilty as well!

Flyingtoast · November 2014

I have lived in a high rise apartment for 5 years. We still knew our neighbors. I knew exactly who I could call at a moments notice and trust them. No it was not every neighbor, but we purposely could name 4 in the event sometime happened. Living in a city is not an excuse from not being prepared. The cities and it's residents had warning a major storm was coming. The resent storm was exspected to be bad because of thr lake effect. The was why it was predicted to be 100 inches. Those in charge knew of these weather patterns, yet were unprepared for the worst case senerio, never mind the lesser reality.

In response to shoveling the highway. In our area we shovel the roads to the fire station and life flight. We don't assume the road crews will get to it before someone needs it. We all hope the road crews will meet us, but never assume. They have hundreds of highway miles to clean, why risk our residents lives on a hope?

All emergency personal are underpaid and overworked. But it doesn't mean residents can't strap up and make their lives significantly easier by doing their part. When it's bad here, people willingly syphon gas for the plow equipment. They don't get paid back for the 100 gallon tank that was emptied. They do it for the greater good. Everyone pitches together to resolve the situation. Stranger, best friend, everyone stops thinking about their personal needs and looks for the collective need.

It's unfortunate those willing to help died from their unprepared efforts. But WHY were they unprepaired? Why were people not taking turns shoveling the vital pathways?

Codypup · November 2014

lol. @flyingtoast. I'm dying to know what urban area allowed you and your fellow high-rise dwellers to sprint into snowy highways, shovels in hand.

I swear, sometimes I feel like you visit us from 1892. Usually it's fascinating, but today it's just annoying and slightly offensive.

shellbell3845 · November 2014

BECAUSE THERE WERE WHITE OUT CONDITIONS, AND IT WAS HEAVY, WET SNOW THAT PEOPLE LITERALLY DIED FROM SHOVELING.

Does any of that make sense to you? Probably not.

It was not safe to be outside shoveling for more than a few minutes at a time. And the snow was coming faster than it could be shoveled. Does that make any sense to you?

Probably not. Because no one is as good or as prepared or as holy as you.

My DH was outside helping neighbors, and they were helping us and others. But our Suburbia USA snow blowers and plastic shovels were no match for the storm. We couldn't have done multiple streets. It took four days to do our driveways.

And in an emergency, emergency personnel were responding on snowmobiles and ATVs. We didn't need to shovel for them.

I should have stayed out of here. Brick freaking wall.

courtls22 · November 2014

@FlyingToast

How were people supposed to organize taking turns to shovel vital roadways? Should everyone have one of those telephone trees with a list of people to call in case of 100" of snow?

Your argument doesn't make any sense. Also, I'm glad you knew of 4 neighbors you could trust when you lived in a city but that is not practical. I live in a rural community and absolutely would not trust ONE neighbor to watch my LO in a situation like this so I could go do my part in shoveling.

What plan do you have that they could have implemented to be better prepared?

shellbell3845 · November 2014

RondackHiker · November 2014

Don't bother guys.

She's acting like an idiot, as always. She argues to argue and either ignores or is incapable of understanding any reality but her own. Not worth the fight.

shellbell3845 · November 2014

golfergirl08 said:

I will just strap LO to my back in the Ergo and shovel those 100 inches. 8-|

@golfergirl08 You might try hip carry too. Maybe give her a shovel in that position and you can clear the interstate in tandem.

shellbell3845 · November 2014

No reason the whole family can't help out. Contribute. Basic humanity.

RondackHiker · November 2014

And you know what? Even if a community isn't prepared and just has a sucky plan and fails to do what they should, there are still PEOPLE living there who are worth saving and worth the state of emergency and any funds spent.

Codypup · November 2014

shellbell3845 · November 2014

whatever floats your goat, i always say.

shellbell3845 · November 2014

Bookshelves said:

Well, damn, the NBA should have been shoveling too.

Codypup · November 2014

shellbell3845 said:

Bookshelves said:

Well, damn, the NBA should have been shoveling too.

LOL

iwubrory · November 2014

Bookshelves said:
I'm really enjoying myself now.

I can't stop watching this!

RondackHiker · November 2014

@Bookshelves‌
Thanks for the laugh!

iwubrory · November 2014

Bummer, I really want to see it. @greenbunny79

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