August 2014 Moms

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  • I realize that other areas have higher costs of living. What I dont understand is how that changes anything. If you cannot afford a savings of some sort then logically how could you afford an LO, let alone leave. I realize things happen, loosing jobs, bed rest, health problems, those are variable situations.

    I do not make awesome money. I am still in school, I have a certification for a nurses aide. I do struggle with bills. I am considered low/middle class. I do have debts. I do have loans. Neither of my parents graduated college. They just bought their first home 10 years ago. I have not come from privileged money.

    I am 21. That does not mean I have not traveled, been educated, seen, heard, or learned things. Or that I can in fact have an opinion, as ignorant as it may be to some..but it has nothing to do with my age.

    I do not think that someone or anyone doesn't desere their LO because they can't afford a full maternity leave, I just don't think the government should be expected to pay for this extended leave. Because of a choice you've made.

    I think everyone deserves their LO and never said anyone didn't. Because you struggle with money does not make you a bad person.

    And I should have more compassion given my situation? Towards what? People believing they are entitled to payment for a lifelong decision they make. Certainly not.

    I do not think a perfect world would need to consist of two loving parents for every child. One is plenty. My daughter will never want for anything.

    As for compassion I'm pretty sure that you (zoegirl) didn't comment on my thread at all
    And if you did, I retract that, My life is a whirl wind, as youve ever so politely brought up and to even bring up a happy perfect world family and "my situation" lacks compassion.

    I stand by in saying government should not have to give paid leave. Children are a choice. Women have been havingchildren for centuries.

    Would it be awawesome. To have paid leave. Of course. But I certainly do not feel entitled for it. Or that sending LO to daycare at 6 weeks cut into our bonding.
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  • lmanford1lmanford1 member
    edited November 2014
    @herecomesthesun Seriously, I'm over the Texas stereotypes. I live in one of the most diverse and forward thinking cities in the country....GASP, IT'S IN TEXAS. Also, well said, @zoegirlTX‌.
  • Entitled...no. Justified...yes. IMO
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  • kareik01kareik01 member
    edited November 2014
    Also. Not all women "choose" to have a baby.  I guess the woman who was impregnated by her rapist, but her religion and/or government don't allow for abortions, doesn't deserve to have some f'ing time off to bond with the baby she didn't "choose" to have?  WTF, kid? 


      You just made me shiver.

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  • So I missed the party!

    I won't get into the maternity debate, my opinion hits home with what the rest of the Canadians put in and what @cath5587‌, @zoegirlTX‌ and @navyandgray‌ said. Word.

    I just wanted to say that I enjoyed the discussions on Kim Kardashian's ass in between all that cluster.

    Ditto all of this. I heart all you ladies, you said everything I wanted to say.
  • bobyn1113 said:



    bobyn1113 said:


    belle785 said:

    I hate Kim Kardashian's ass pictures.
    I don't like them either but this woman knows what she is doing and let's face it, she is a great business woman. 43 million made on an app in 3 months?

    That being said, she needs to stop with these type of photos to the public now that she is a mom.

    Ugh, really? Just because she's a mom doesn't mean she has to lose her sexuality. I'm not a fan of the photos either, but it's what she wants to do. If her daughter is going to be effected by anything she's done, it'll be the sex tape. Not a photo of her ass on a magazine cover.
    Why can't it be both?

    Not saying it won't be both, but saying she should change
    solely because she's a mother is bullshit. Having
    a kid or being past a certain age doesn't turn you into a crypt keeper. A lot
    of models that became mothers still work and wear provocative clothing.
    I didn't
    realize women weren't allowed to be sexy after pushing out a child.

    To add to this, why are people not outraged at photos of
    men, who are fathers, walking around shirtless?
    Dads can wear close to nothing and no one cares?
    Patriarchy, misogyny, blah blah blah.

    I wasn't aware that the options were either a) show your bare ass to the world, or b) be a crypt keeper. Pretty sure there's some middle ground.

    I also can't believe you compared a man's bare chest to a woman's bare ass. Why don't you compare like to like? If a father were showing his bare behind on the cover of a magazine, I'd be similarly leery.
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  • So the eff what

    So the eff what, what?
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  • poofwokpoofwok member
    edited November 2014

    Last week we were talking about makeup. So the eff what.


    Oh. :) I need quote boxes to keep up. I didn't understand whom that comment was for.

    I guess all she meant was this thread is holy shit balls compared to last week UO.

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  • So the eff what

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  • bobyn1113 said:



    bobyn1113 said:



    bobyn1113 said:


    belle785 said:

    I hate Kim Kardashian's ass pictures.
    I don't like them either but this woman knows what she is doing and let's face it, she is a great business woman. 43 million made on an app in 3 months?

    That being said, she needs to stop with these type of photos to the public now that she is a mom.

    Ugh, really? Just because she's a mom doesn't mean she has to lose her sexuality. I'm not a fan of the photos either, but it's what she wants to do. If her daughter is going to be effected by anything she's done, it'll be the sex tape. Not a photo of her ass on a magazine cover.
    Why can't it be both?

    Not saying it won't be both, but saying she should change
    solely because she's a mother is bullshit. Having
    a kid or being past a certain age doesn't turn you into a crypt keeper. A lot
    of models that became mothers still work and wear provocative clothing.
    I didn't
    realize women weren't allowed to be sexy after pushing out a child.

    To add to this, why are people not outraged at photos of
    men, who are fathers, walking around shirtless?
    Dads can wear close to nothing and no one cares?
    Patriarchy, misogyny, blah blah blah.

    I wasn't aware that the options were either a) show your bare ass to the world, or b) be a crypt keeper. Pretty sure there's some middle ground.

    I also can't believe you compared a man's bare chest to a woman's bare ass. Why don't you compare like to like? If a father were showing his bare behind on the cover of a magazine, I'd be similarly leery.


    LOL okay. I'm sure you would.

    Saying she shouldn't do something "now that she is a mom" is misogynistic, plain and simple. A man could show his bare ass on a magazine cover and the majority would be saying "DAT ASS", not "He's a father. He should cover up."


    I don't think you understand the meaning of the word misogynistic.
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  • As upset as i am about certain comments, it's not Thursday anymore.
  • chase16 said:

    Misogynistic: reflecting or exhibiting hatred, dislike, mistrust, or mistreatment of women.

    Nope. She used it correctly. And I agree. Baring your ass on a magazine cover might be distasteful and Ill advised for a few reasons, but not just because she's a mom.

    One of my fb friends that's pregnant announced that she was getting rid of her old wardrobe now that she's going to be a mom. SERIOUS eye roll.

    Does this mean I should get rid of my lingerie?
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  • chase16 said:

    Misogynistic: reflecting or exhibiting hatred, dislike, mistrust, or mistreatment of women.

    Nope. She used it correctly. And I agree. Baring your ass on a magazine cover might be distasteful and Ill advised for a few reasons, but not just because she's a mom.

    One of my fb friends that's pregnant announced that she was getting rid of her old wardrobe now that she's going to be a mom. SERIOUS eye roll.

    Does this mean I should get rid of my lingerie?
    Oh absolutely. Moms aren't allowed to be sexy! Sex is only for procreation, obviously!
  • I cannot believe I just read that. I was supposed to be working, but I got sucked in.

    Seriously....people don't tip?!

    I tip everyone!

    Especially those who have waited tables.....you don't tip your hairdresser or the person at Starbucks?!

    A tip should never be expected, but most times its deserved.
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  • bobyn1113 said:


    belle785 said:

    I hate Kim Kardashian's ass pictures.
    I don't like them either but this woman knows what she is doing and let's face it, she is a great business woman. 43 million made on an app in 3 months?

    That being said, she needs to stop with these type of photos to the public now that she is a mom.

    Ugh, really? Just because she's a mom doesn't mean she has to lose her sexuality. I'm not a fan of the photos either, but it's what she wants to do. If her daughter is going to be effected by anything she's done, it'll be the sex tape. Not a photo of her ass on a magazine cover.

    Well first of all, it wasn't just ass..it is her whole front side as well. And I didn't explain myself enough. I think Kim K is a actually a great business role model for women. She has built a huge empire. It's fine to be sexy and wear sexy clothes when you are a mom. But I'm sorry, I don't think it's okay for any parent to show their bare body on a magazine anymore when you have a child.

    I mean "Oh hey North, I saw your mom basically naked in the magazine this weekend." Kids are cruel and all this can result in teasing and bullying when she is older. It's more about protecting your kid rather than just covering up because you are a mom.

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  • Raclla said:

    I cannot believe I just read that. I was supposed to be working, but I got sucked in.

    Seriously....people don't tip?!

    I tip everyone!

    Especially those who have waited tables.....you don't tip your hairdresser or the person at Starbucks?!

    A tip should never be expected, but most times its deserved.



    The two times a year I actually get my haircut, I tip generously. However, I never tip at Starbucks just like I never tip at any other fast food establishment.
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  • I am a decent tripper at restaurants and a generous tipper for hair, nails, and waxing. I do not tip at Starbucks or other such places w/ a tip jar.
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  • I could read this thread forever.. So sad I reached the end.
  • shugirl76shugirl76 member
    edited November 2014
    "So the eff what." Just because I said we were talking about makeup last week. It was a fact, not meant to be snarky at all.

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  • Raclla said:
    I cannot believe I just read that. I was supposed to be working, but I got sucked in. Seriously....people don't tip?! I tip everyone! Especially those who have waited tables.....you don't tip your hairdresser or the person at Starbucks?! A tip should never be expected, but most times its deserved.

    I'm stuck in this quote box!  I actually tip servers very generously, even if I have not great service because I know everyone has an off day.  I usually end up leaving extra money when I go out with my parents because my dad doesn't always tip the amount I think the server deserves. I tip my hairdresser even better because she is a good friend of mine and I end up paying her more than she asks me for considering I usually buy my own color and bring it to her to apply it (I am able to shop at the professional stores and it saves her from using the color she pays for herself).  I tip when I go to pick up food from a restaurant because I know that someone had to put in a lot of effort to make sure that my order is packed correctly.  I even tip at Starbucks, but I do not appreciate someone thinking that the money I hand them is meant as a tip when I make no indication that it is.  
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    edited November 2014
  • chase16 said:

    Misogynistic: reflecting or exhibiting hatred, dislike, mistrust, or mistreatment of women.

    Nope. She used it correctly. And I agree. Baring your ass on a magazine cover might be distasteful and Ill advised for a few reasons, but not just because she's a mom.

    One of my fb friends that's pregnant announced that she was getting rid of her old wardrobe now that she's going to be a mom. SERIOUS eye roll.

    Anyone thinking that that comment demonstrates a hatred for women is being overly sensitive and bastardizing the issue. You yourself said that it's distasteful and ill advised, so it follows that someone might think it's unadvisable for a parent to engage in the behavior, since she's no longer the only person her actions affect. That applies whether the parent is a man or a woman. Maybe others are different, but ever since LO was born, I look at everything through a different prism, because my actions are no longer just my own. I have another member of the family to think about and I just feels like that instills (or should instill) an added level of responsibility and decorum, whether you're male OR female. I just don't understand how someone can say that an action is distasteful and then turn around and call someone misogynistic for suggesting that a parent may want to think twice about engaging in said distasteful behavior, because of how it could affect LO.
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  • Apologies @missmimsyy, I was actually replying to @belle785 's question regarding whether non-FMLA covered employers are required to allow unpaid sick leave to recover from childbirth.  Not sure how I mixed you two up.
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