I can relate to feeling like nothing but a dairy cow these days. I just keep telling myself it will get better soon and eventually LO will see me as more than just his food source.
For all those noticing engorgement all of a sudden, it's likely that LO just had a growth spurt. Sometimes you'll be engorged for a day or two after increased nursing as things level out.
I've been engorged in the mornings the past two days, and I'm thinking it's because of a growth spurt.
I'm getting frustrated with how much time we spend feeding. For example so far DD fed at 5:30 for 15min (at least-I fell asleep at some point) then 6:45 for 10min. Then 7:30 for 15min. Then 8:40 for an hour (with breaks for burps and DD whining).
Could be a growth spurt. They can take a whole week. I suppose the question is whether it's getting better or worse. You could try waking LO with a burp and diaper change after the 10 mins, and then offering the other side. Perhaps if she's encouraged to stay awake and feed longer, she'll wake later for her next feeding.
@cmac6186 it's not easy and definitely makes you feel like a commodity...not to mention, takes away the concept of breasts being a sexual object! It'll be okay though...and you'll figure out a good schedule after you get back to work! I never expected breastfeeding to be this time consuming or tiring either.
Eta: my baby grew three pounds over the first month so it's possible my normal is your growth spurt too!
Are you thinking of using these shakes for dieting? If not, this comment is completely irrelevant, so sorry!
Be careful with severely restricting your calories. It can have a big impact on your supply...so make sure you're getting 1500-1800 calories per day minimum! Rapid weight loss programs are not recommended because toxins stored in body fat are released into breastmilk when calories are severely restricted.
Dieting really isn't recommended until at least 8 weeks postpartum when your supply is well-established and regulated, but even then, dieting should be approached with caution.
The good thing is that breastfeeding itself burns 300-500 calories per day, so you can lose weight (slowly and safely) without doing anything but nurse your baby!
I have a Medela Pump In Style electric that I haven't used yet, mostly due to intimidation. My friend suggested I get a manual pump too, like the Medela Harmony. Would it be worth my while to have two pumps on hand? Or because I already have a double electric, is it silly to spend the $30 for a manual pump?
I just didn't know if it would be more convenient for me to use at home while I'm on mat leave since there aren't as many parts that need to be hooked up as there are with the electric. I would probably start pumping once a day here at home to get my freezer stash going.
@deezidee04 I'm no expert but a lot of us seem to have more success with our manual pumps than our double electrics! I was intimidated at first too but you get used to it fast.
Me: 30 | DH: 4/12/85 - 6/16/14 | Quinn Patrick born 9/28/14
@deezidee04 I'm no expert but a lot of us seem to have more success with our manual pumps than our double electrics! I was intimidated at first too but you get used to it fast.
It is worth it if only as backup for the day your pump unexpectedly dies.
@deezidee04 I'm no expert but a lot of us seem to have more success with our manual pumps than our double electrics! I was intimidated at first too but you get used to it fast.
It is worth it if only as backup for the day your pump unexpectedly dies.
Ah, I didn't even think of that. I'm sold!
Also handy to keep in the bedroom for when your LO sleeps longer than normal and you end up engorged.
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I have been using nipple shields for the last week and a half and they have been a miracle. They allowed enough relief to get my cracked and bleeding nipples healed. I think the problem is a shallow latch so I have been trying to work on this and trying to wean off of the shields. I have watched videos and done a lot of reading but any suggestions would be great. Also, I think I have a plugged duct. I noticed a little pain on one side of my breast and can feel a small lump. I have pumped and fed off of that breast to try and keep it emptied. Again, any suggestions would be great. Sorry if this has already been discussed but I'm on mobile bump right now.
So speaking of pumping first thing in the morning, what exactly does that mean? My son nurses all thru the night in about 2.5-3 hr intervals. So should I pump after the 3-4 am feeding or the 6-7 am feeding? Or just whenever I'm officially up for the day?
@keelyd I got mine to clear up my massaging it toward my nipple with a bristle hairbrush right before a feeding. Have you just been doing massage with your hands?
Hi, I am new to this board and am having some trouble breastfeeding and was wondering if anyone could offer some advice. I've spent some time lurking and there is so much helpful info here. A quick backstory **sorry if it is so long!*** My LO was born 5 weeks ago weighing 7.3 lbs. We discovered in the hospital that I have shallow nipples so the LC gave me a nipple shield (size small...ended up buying x-small later on because they are SO shallow) and we were able to successfully breastfeed while I was there. He was discharged at a weight of 6.14. Three days later at his pedi appt. he was back to birth weight. I met with the LC a week and a half after that to see if we could wean off the shield (just because it was a pain to deal with) and he successfully latched. We did a weighed feeding and he only took in .5 oz in 15 minutes of nursing. He also had only gained 7 oz in a week and a half. The LC suggested I replace two feedings a day with pumped BM to give him easy calories to put on weight. The fear was that since he is such a lazy eater (often falls asleep- I use all the tricks out there to wake him up but it is a constant effort- or just uses me as a pacifier) he was not going to take in enough milk. We tried that for a week and at our next weigh-in he had only gained 4 oz. The LC then had us switch to a morning and evening nursing session with the rest of the day pumped milk in a bottle. Tomorrow will be a week of this and at our pedi's office yesterday the scale said he gained 7 oz. in 6 days. He is now at 8 lbs. 9 oz. and will be 5 weeks old tomorrow. The pedi said he should have put on a few more ounces than that and suggested going back to exclusively nursing for 15 min on each side and then offering formula (as much as he wants) after to supplement. This totally contradicts what the LC wanted me to do because we assumed that he wasn't taking in enough milk from the breast. I feel like I confirmed that this morning because after a 30 min nursing session (15 each side) he proceeded to drink 3 oz. of BM from a bottle). I am in such agony over this because I want to avoid formula if at all possible but I don't want to underfeed him either. Any advice as to what you think I should do? He is not a chubby baby and everyone comments that his arms/legs are skinny, but he doesn't show any signs that he is starving. I am making sure he is getting 3 oz. of BM every 2 1/2 hours daytime with a 4 hour sleep stretch at night. He has plenty of wet and 1-2 poops a day. I would love to exclusively nurse but I will stick with the pumping schedule if it means I can avoid FF. FWIW, I am also only able to pump a total of 4 oz combined both sides each 25-30 min pumping session...I don't feel like I have a huge supply to begin with so I am not able to build up any sort of stash. I have all of the galactagogues going in full swing as well. Thank you for any help...it is so tough when you get conflicting info from the professionals and I am desperately trying to make this work!
I too am working on weaning from the shield but latch still hurts. :-(( I am watching videos, I keep breaking latch and trying again but it's not working.
Thank you so much for your help. I will look into a third opinion for sure. I think my confusion stems from the fact that he has gained the most weight in the shortest amount of time (ideal right?) on the "BM bottle all day/nurse morning and night plan" yet the pedi wants me to go back to primarily BFing which only yielded the 4 oz. growth in a week.
The only thing I can think of for why the pedi might have been looking for more growth than normal is that he was behind and she wanted him to make up for it. Not sure.
I think I will look into getting a scale and in the meantime monitor diaper output while testing out the nurse - supplement as needed routine. Its so frustrating because I really don't think he is getting 3 oz. at the breast.
@keelyd, when you nurse or pump, try massaging towards the nipple. You can also try using a comb or vibrator while taking a really hot shower. I had a couple of clogged ducts last weekend and using a manual toothbrush to push towards the nipple during a hot shower ultimately resolved them.
@amyg* -- I'm not sure how to position him to get his chin right next to the clog, as it is located on the upper interior side of my breast, kind of at a 10 o'clock position (and I have somewhat small breasts). I have been alternating positions, and have done football hold a few times today so his nose is near the clog.
Have you tried dangle feeding? Rest in your elbows above LO, him laying on his back on the bed. You can hover such that the clog is on his chin side.
Breast massage and warm compress before nursing. Use a vibrator to massage and then a comb, bristles down, combing in the direction of your nipple. Those stubborn ones can take some work!
@amyg* -- I'm not sure how to position him to get his chin right next to the clog, as it is located on the upper interior side of my breast, kind of at a 10 o'clock position (and I have somewhat small breasts). I have been alternating positions, and have done football hold a few times today so his nose is near the clog.
Have you tried dangle feeding? Rest in your elbows above LO, him laying on his back on the bed. You can hover such that the clog is on his chin side.
Breast massage and warm compress before nursing. Use a vibrator to massage and then a comb, bristles down, combing in the direction of your nipple. Those stubborn ones can take some work!
I did try dangle feeding last night, it was tough to maintain since I was feeling so achy -- I'll try again next feeding now that I'm feeling mostly better. Everything else I've been doing for the past three days; this one does seem stubborn. I ordered some lecithin when I ordered probiotics since this is the second time in two weeks this same spot has become plugged.
Same spot? Does any of your clothing press against that spot, or do you compress that part of your breast with your finger(s) if you hold your breast while nursing? Sometimes plugs recur in the same spot because of external pressure restricting the ducts (like underwires on bras and such).
Hi! My husband and I are having the most difficult time getting our 3 week old son to comfortably drink breast milk from a bottle. We've tried different bottles/nipples but he just prefers the breast. He gets so upset when a bottle is introduced & we have about 6 weeks to get this thing figured out before daycare. I'm stressing. HELP!
What would cause a baby who had a great latch to all of the sudden have a sucky latch no matter what you do? This just started yesterday and carried on into the evening and all night. My nipples are looking for a new pair of boobs to live on.
Is LO sick or fighting off a cold/congestion or ear infection? Have you been nursing anywhere different these days (that is, decided to nurse on the couch instead of the recliner)? Is LO going through a growth spurt and nursing constantly, or did he just grow a bunch? Are you nursing at all in your sleep while side-lying? That last one always gets me...I'm too lazy to make sure he is latched on properly during the night and then pay for it the next day.
Plenty of factors can affect latch. Make sure he's opening wide to latch and that he is well-supported for the duration of the feeding.
It could also be that his latch is fine and something else is up (like thrush). What are your signs of shallow latch? I know you're having nipple pain...
So my supply runner over and I want it to stop! Every day in the wee hours of the morning, such as now, I have to wake up and pump. If I don't, I wake up looking like Rose Bryne in the movie neighbors! I wait to pump until LO has nursed. Even after nursing I can pump and can easily overflow the bottles. I usually pump for 10 minutes just to relieve the pressure and empty some milk. I never pump until empty. How can I get rid of this pumping session? LO doesn't need the milk I'm pumping at this session and I want to be sleeping instead of pumping in the motn. My supply is fine the rest if the day.
Hi! My husband and I are having the most difficult time getting our 3 week old son to comfortably drink breast milk from a bottle. We've tried different bottles/nipples but he just prefers the breast. He gets so upset when a bottle is introduced & we have about 6 weeks to get this thing figured out before daycare. I'm stressing. HELP!
Are you offering the bottle when he isn't hungry? Try offering it after he has nursed. It's hard to learn something new when you're hungry.
If he gets frustrated with the bottle, stick it back in the fridge and try again a bit later. Try to keep it positive.
You may have to actually leave the house and let DH introduce the bottle. When mom and the boobs are present, it can be confusing for them to be trying to learn to eat from somewhere other than mom.
Good luck! 6 weeks is a great amount of time. Try not to stress!
I just pumped for the first time! I used the manual pump and yielded just under 2 ounces of breastmilk. Is that normal? I'm hoping he eats more than that when he's at the boob. I probably could have gotten more but it was kind of starting to hurt. Is the pump supposed to suck in my entire areola and squish it into the shield's neck? I felt like it could be bruising my areola.
Halp! All the sudden LO fights the bottle. When she was born we were forced to supplement so she's used the bottle from day one. I usually pump once a day to let DH do a feeding. Well i stopped pumping for a couple weeks because I'm lazy and just thought it was easier to whip a boob out. Now she's fighting the bottle. Any suggestions ??
I think my question got buried so I will try again.
Sometimes she spits up cottage cheesy looking milk (which I hear is normal). What if it is milk only - like just straight milk? What does that mean?
That just means it hasn't started digesting yet, and that it's mixed with saliva. The curds are spit up when it's partially digested. Stomach acid curdles the milk.
Halp! All the sudden LO fights the bottle. When she was born we were forced to supplement so she's used the bottle from day one. I usually pump once a day to let DH do a feeding. Well i stopped pumping for a couple weeks because I'm lazy and just thought it was easier to whip a boob out. Now she's fighting the bottle. Any suggestions ??
Are you home when he offers the bottle? She may just prefer you and refuse the bottle when the boobs are near. You can try it warm and cold and see if she has a preference. Good luck!
Halp! All the sudden LO fights the bottle. When she was born we were forced to supplement so she's used the bottle from day one. I usually pump once a day to let DH do a feeding. Well i stopped pumping for a couple weeks because I'm lazy and just thought it was easier to whip a boob out. Now she's fighting the bottle. Any suggestions ??
Are you home when he offers the bottle? She may just prefer you and refuse the bottle when the boobs are near. You can try it warm and cold and see if she has a preference. Good luck!
Yes I am. Should I leave the room? It may have gotten cold with the temperature drop too and it had set a little while. Thanks!
@keelyd, I saw you mention you had ordered the lecithin. Just wanted to offer some encouragement as that was the only think that seemed to work for me in clearing my clogged duct a few weeks ago. I took 3/day until it stopped hurting and started to loosen, then switched to 2/day for a few days and finally dropped down to 1/day which I now take for preventative reasons. Good luck!
@theresat858 It's definitely early enough for her to create and establish an adequate supply to EBF! She needs to do some work, though. 6-7 pumping sessions just won't cut it.
As much as possible, she should put baby to the breast and do skin-to-skin. Unless medically contraindicated, she should supplement at the breast via SNS. She should be pumping every 2 hours during the day and every 3 hours at night, at least 10x per day. Does she have a hospital grade pump? She should see about renting one for the time being.
It shouldn't take long and won't be so difficult forever. This is just to get her through until baby is back to the breast. Can she see an IBCLC for help getting baby nursing if he's having trouble? Best of luck!
Halp! All the sudden LO fights the bottle. When she was born we were forced to supplement so she's used the bottle from day one. I usually pump once a day to let DH do a feeding. Well i stopped pumping for a couple weeks because I'm lazy and just thought it was easier to whip a boob out. Now she's fighting the bottle. Any suggestions ??
Are you home when he offers the bottle? She may just prefer you and refuse the bottle when the boobs are near. You can try it warm and cold and see if she has a preference. Good luck!
Yes I am. Should I leave the room? It may have gotten cold with the temperature drop too and it had set a little while. Thanks!
Definitely leave the room. Some moms have to leave the house!
Should I be worried that LO just sucked down a 2oz bottle of BM in 7 minutes after nursing her all day? We have been trying to do paced feeding but she won't stop sucking the bottle and just ends up getting air.
Does anyone have any experience with a baby that has a "poor milk transfer"? I went to a lactation support group yesterday and my little guy only got 1 ounce in about 35 minutes, both sides. She noticed he was sucking a lot but not doing a lot of swallowing. She had me make an appointment for next week, but I'm confused as to what to do now. His weight gain is on the lowest end of normal.
@theresat858 I am by no means a BFing expert, but regarding your friend, I EPed for a year with DD1 after nursing and supplementing for the first month. I kept notes on my phone of all my pumping sessions. I was just looking at them today and realized that at five weeks out I was only pumping 21 oz which was not enough to feed my daughter without supplementing, however around week six or seven I got to the point where I was making enough. I looked back even further and when I started keeping track at 14 days PP I was pumping around 11 oz. The way I approached it was it's not an all or nothing thing and whatever milk I could get was beneficial. I pumped as often as I could without making myself crazy to the point I would quit. The most I pumped was 8 times a day but often I only got in 7 pumps. I knew that the more I pumped the better, but I also knew I would quit if I set an unrealistic goal. I also set small goals. My first big goal was to keep going until the two month checkup.
DD1 was born in December and it took until February to produce enough to feed her without supplementing, but it eventually did happen.
Does anyone have any experience with a baby that has a "poor milk transfer"? I went to a lactation support group yesterday and my little guy only got 1 ounce in about 35 minutes, both sides. She noticed he was sucking a lot but not doing a lot of swallowing. She had me make an appointment for next week, but I'm confused as to what to do now. His weight gain is on the lowest end of normal.
Did the LC examine your baby for a tongue and/or lip tie? Ties are a very common cause of weak/disorganized suck and milk transfer issues. Is breastfeeding painful for you and how was LO's latch?
If baby has no ties, there are exercises your LC can teach you to help strengthen his tongue, and she can help you continue to look for the underlying cause.
It's great that your LO's weight gain is within the normal range. It's always possible that LO just didn't take as much milk at THAT feeding that was weighed. Could have been distracted or less hungry or the time of day or your nerves could even have had an effect. Weighed feedings aren't an accurate indicator of what LO gets at EVERY feeding. But of course if the LC noted a suck issue, it's good to look into that.
As for what to do now? Nurse often. If he's not transferring milk well, he'll need to eat frequently in order to get all he needs. This is especially true, too, if he tires very quickly and falls asleep at the breast. I would nurse every 2 hours and on demand in between until you're able to have him evaluated. Lots of skin-to-skin will also encourage frequent nursing.
Does anyone have any experience with a baby that has a "poor milk transfer"? I went to a lactation support group yesterday and my little guy only got 1 ounce in about 35 minutes, both sides. She noticed he was sucking a lot but not doing a lot of swallowing. She had me make an appointment for next week, but I'm confused as to what to do now. His weight gain is on the lowest end of normal.
Yup -- we've been dealing with this for quite a few weeks. DS doesn't (didn't hopefully!) get even a third of an ounce during the weighed feeds we did at first. Last time, it was just over 1/2 an ounce.
What we did was supplement every BFing session with 45-60 mL (1.5-2 oz) of either expressed great milk or formula (if we didn't have enough expressed milk). We used an SNS attached to our gloved finger to do this (for about 2.5 weeks) but have since transitioned to paced bottle feeding. For time's sake, we switched to supplement first, bf second after a week or so, and have since reversed that now that we're trying to get off of supplementing.
Was your LO evaluated for tongue tie? Our son had a one which we think contributed to his poor transfer.
Good luck!
He did have a tongue tie, so we had it clipped by the ent at 2 weeks. He is 6 weeks now. I'm going to try supplementing with pumped milk a bit today until I can get in and see what she says. Thanks for the advice, glad I'm not alone!
@theresat858 , that's wonderful it got better. Do you think it got better because your LO was older or did you work on the sucking at all?
@emerald827 , I feel terrible, likes he's hungry, because he needs to gain more and I am already feeding on demand. I thought he would let me know he's hungry, and I really hope the 1 ounce was just a one time thing. Even now, when he eats, I barely hear him swallow unless I use breast compressions to get the milk out. I just started doing that so I feel like he hasn't been sucking enough To get milk.
Would a latch with a semi-rolled in upper lip cause LO to take in enough air to cause a gas problem? It doesn't hurt, and he gets more than enough, but he's always super gassy and I've just noticed than his upper lip is rolled in like 75% of the time.
It could. It's helpful when the lips flare to form a good seal when baby latches. If you're burping him well, though, that should eliminate most of the air he takes in, and if it doesn't hurt and he's gaining weight well, his latch may be just fine despite pulling in his lip.
@FamousEa You can definitely pump after a feeding and you'll still have plenty for LO. Your breasts actively produce milk AS baby nurses, so he'll get milk even if you need to nurse immediately after pumping, he'll just have to work for it from the start, instead of having some milk resting there for him to drain off first.
@savagek7 I'm right there with you. Same thing but from righty. DS drowns and pulls off and I spray milk in many a direction at once. I look like a sprinkler...we're spending a little less time with righty for a day or two to try to correct it, but if I remember correctly, that's my overachiever anyway, so we might just be messy forever. Oh, and DS is tough to burp too. DH is way better at getting them out than I am!
I have a question about supply and regulation. I've looked online but I'm finding conflicting information.
DS is 3.5 weeks old, so I know my supply hasn't regulated yet. My right side is the over achiever. About every two hours or so, it starts leaking. It leaks a ton! At home I try to stay either shirtless or braless with a big t shirt of my husband's. The leaking will soak a shirt in a few minutes. If DS is set to nurse on that side, I always express some milk into a towel so he doesn't choke on it. We've been nursing on just one side for each feeding and then alternating for the next. With this thrush, he very rarely is remotely interested in the other side after already nursing on one side.
Anywho, my question. Do I need to do anything about the oversupply? Do I continue how I have been, and will my body regulate itself? I've been avoiding pumping the right side so I don't make it any worse, and I've been sticking with the one side per feed so I'm not overly feeding from the overactive side.
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I can relate to feeling like nothing but a dairy cow these days. I just keep telling myself it will get better soon and eventually LO will see me as more than just his food source.
I've been engorged in the mornings the past two days, and I'm thinking it's because of a growth spurt.
Eta: my baby grew three pounds over the first month so it's possible my normal is your growth spurt too!
Be careful with severely restricting your calories. It can have a big impact on your supply...so make sure you're getting 1500-1800 calories per day minimum! Rapid weight loss programs are not recommended because toxins stored in body fat are released into breastmilk when calories are severely restricted.
Dieting really isn't recommended until at least 8 weeks postpartum when your supply is well-established and regulated, but even then, dieting should be approached with caution.
The good thing is that breastfeeding itself burns 300-500 calories per day, so you can lose weight (slowly and safely) without doing anything but nurse your baby!
I just didn't know if it would be more convenient for me to use at home while I'm on mat leave since there aren't as many parts that need to be hooked up as there are with the electric. I would probably start pumping once a day here at home to get my freezer stash going.
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Baby Girl "C" arrived on 10/07/14 (39 weeks, 6 days)
Also, I think I have a plugged duct. I noticed a little pain on one side of my breast and can feel a small lump. I have pumped and fed off of that breast to try and keep it emptied. Again, any suggestions would be great. Sorry if this has already been discussed but I'm on mobile bump right now.
My LO was born 5 weeks ago weighing 7.3 lbs. We discovered in the hospital that I have shallow nipples so the LC gave me a nipple shield (size small...ended up buying x-small later on because they are SO shallow) and we were able to successfully breastfeed while I was there. He was discharged at a weight of 6.14. Three days later at his pedi appt. he was back to birth weight. I met with the LC a week and a half after that to see if we could wean off the shield (just because it was a pain to deal with) and he successfully latched. We did a weighed feeding and he only took in .5 oz in 15 minutes of nursing. He also had only gained 7 oz in a week and a half. The LC suggested I replace two feedings a day with pumped BM to give him easy calories to put on weight. The fear was that since he is such a lazy eater (often falls asleep- I use all the tricks out there to wake him up but it is a constant effort- or just uses me as a pacifier) he was not going to take in enough milk. We tried that for a week and at our next weigh-in he had only gained 4 oz. The LC then had us switch to a morning and evening nursing session with the rest of the day pumped milk in a bottle. Tomorrow will be a week of this and at our pedi's office yesterday the scale said he gained 7 oz. in 6 days. He is now at 8 lbs. 9 oz. and will be 5 weeks old tomorrow. The pedi said he should have put on a few more ounces than that and suggested going back to exclusively nursing for 15 min on each side and then offering formula (as much as he wants) after to supplement. This totally contradicts what the LC wanted me to do because we assumed that he wasn't taking in enough milk from the breast. I feel like I confirmed that this morning because after a 30 min nursing session (15 each side) he proceeded to drink 3 oz. of BM from a bottle). I am in such agony over this because I want to avoid formula if at all possible but I don't want to underfeed him either.
Any advice as to what you think I should do? He is not a chubby baby and everyone comments that his arms/legs are skinny, but he doesn't show any signs that he is starving. I am making sure he is getting 3 oz. of BM every 2 1/2 hours daytime with a 4 hour sleep stretch at night. He has plenty of wet and 1-2 poops a day. I would love to exclusively nurse but I will stick with the pumping schedule if it means I can avoid FF. FWIW, I am also only able to pump a total of 4 oz combined both sides each 25-30 min pumping session...I don't feel like I have a huge supply to begin with so I am not able to build up any sort of stash. I have all of the galactagogues going in full swing as well.
Thank you for any help...it is so tough when you get conflicting info from the professionals and I am desperately trying to make this work!
Thank you so much for your help. I will look into a third opinion for sure. I think my confusion stems from the fact that he has gained the most weight in the shortest amount of time (ideal right?) on the "BM bottle all day/nurse morning and night plan" yet the pedi wants me to go back to primarily BFing which only yielded the 4 oz. growth in a week.
The only thing I can think of for why the pedi might have been looking for more growth than normal is that he was behind and she wanted him to make up for it. Not sure.
I think I will look into getting a scale and in the meantime monitor diaper output while testing out the nurse - supplement as needed routine. Its so frustrating because I really don't think he is getting 3 oz. at the breast.
Breast massage and warm compress before nursing. Use a vibrator to massage and then a comb, bristles down, combing in the direction of your nipple. Those stubborn ones can take some work!
Also, maybe discuss with your OB or IBCLC taking lecithin:
https://kellymom.com/nutrition/vitamins/lecithin/
Plenty of factors can affect latch. Make sure he's opening wide to latch and that he is well-supported for the duration of the feeding.
It could also be that his latch is fine and something else is up (like thrush). What are your signs of shallow latch? I know you're having nipple pain...
If he gets frustrated with the bottle, stick it back in the fridge and try again a bit later. Try to keep it positive.
You may have to actually leave the house and let DH introduce the bottle. When mom and the boobs are present, it can be confusing for them to be trying to learn to eat from somewhere other than mom.
Good luck! 6 weeks is a great amount of time. Try not to stress!
Sometimes she spits up cottage cheesy looking milk (which I hear is normal).
What if it is milk only - like just straight milk? What does that mean?
As much as possible, she should put baby to the breast and do skin-to-skin. Unless medically contraindicated, she should supplement at the breast via SNS. She should be pumping every 2 hours during the day and every 3 hours at night, at least 10x per day. Does she have a hospital grade pump? She should see about renting one for the time being.
It shouldn't take long and won't be so difficult forever. This is just to get her through until baby is back to the breast. Can she see an IBCLC for help getting baby nursing if he's having trouble? Best of luck!
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DD1 was born in December and it took until February to produce enough to feed her without supplementing, but it eventually did happen.
If baby has no ties, there are exercises your LC can teach you to help strengthen his tongue, and she can help you continue to look for the underlying cause.
It's great that your LO's weight gain is within the normal range. It's always possible that LO just didn't take as much milk at THAT feeding that was weighed. Could have been distracted or less hungry or the time of day or your nerves could even have had an effect. Weighed feedings aren't an accurate indicator of what LO gets at EVERY feeding. But of course if the LC noted a suck issue, it's good to look into that.
As for what to do now? Nurse often. If he's not transferring milk well, he'll need to eat frequently in order to get all he needs. This is especially true, too, if he tires very quickly and falls asleep at the breast. I would nurse every 2 hours and on demand in between until you're able to have him evaluated. Lots of skin-to-skin will also encourage frequent nursing.
Good luck!!!
@theresat858 , that's wonderful it got better. Do you think it got better because your LO was older or did you work on the sucking at all?
@emerald827 , I feel terrible, likes he's hungry, because he needs to gain more and I am already feeding on demand. I thought he would let me know he's hungry, and I really hope the 1 ounce was just a one time thing. Even now, when he eats, I barely hear him swallow unless I use breast compressions to get the milk out. I just started doing that so I feel like he hasn't been sucking enough To get milk.
Thanks for all the advice!
@savagek7 I'm right there with you. Same thing but from righty. DS drowns and pulls off and I spray milk in many a direction at once. I look like a sprinkler...we're spending a little less time with righty for a day or two to try to correct it, but if I remember correctly, that's my overachiever anyway, so we might just be messy forever. Oh, and DS is tough to burp too. DH is way better at getting them out than I am!
I've looked online but I'm finding conflicting information.
DS is 3.5 weeks old, so I know my supply hasn't regulated yet. My right side is the over achiever. About every two hours or so, it starts leaking. It leaks a ton! At home I try to stay either shirtless or braless with a big t shirt of my husband's. The leaking will soak a shirt in a few minutes. If DS is set to nurse on that side, I always express some milk into a towel so he doesn't choke on it. We've been nursing on just one side for each feeding and then alternating for the next. With this thrush, he very rarely is remotely interested in the other side after already nursing on one side.
Anywho, my question. Do I need to do anything about the oversupply? Do I continue how I have been, and will my body regulate itself? I've been avoiding pumping the right side so I don't make it any worse, and I've been sticking with the one side per feed so I'm not overly feeding from the overactive side.