Just a question (don't hate me)

EveryStormX2 · November 2014

considering current circumstances, I have a few questions for you experts. Despite knowing about charting, temping, opks and the general idea on making babies, I am lost when it comes to implantation spotting. I have done a little Internet research, but I don't trust sites like babycenter, and the like.

I was just hoping to hear from ladies who may have experienced this in the past and what it was like for you. If this hadn't legitimately happened to me last night (two pink dots, light in color and then GONE), I certainly wouldn't be asking. I've been very proud of myself for not playing symptom investigator this month, but this is one topic that I truly have no experience on.

Thoughts, comments, even snark that could give me a laugh or two would be much appreciated. Thanks ladies!!

icaughtfire · November 2014

I don't hate you but I think a simple search on the forum of "Implantation Bleeding" should give you a clear picture on the thought about IB around here.

Bottom line -- you'll know it was IB when you get a +HPT. Until then, you had spotting & no one here will be able to tell you why.

MrsC0617 · November 2014

My what I've heard, implantation bleeding is rare. Occasional spotting is not as rare. It can be a variety of factors that led to your spotting. Of the many BFP stories I've read on here, I can't recall many incidents of implantation bleeding that were mentioned in symptoms/signs. I know it's hard to not over analyze but just take it with a grain of salt that it was probably random spotting. I hope you get a BFP out of this but it seems unlikely that what you saw was implantation bleeding. GL!

mandy522 · November 2014

Didn't you already ask and get answers about this in the TWW thread?

There's also a handy little guide in the newbie blog: https://tbttgp.wordpress.com/implantation-bleeding/

I hope you get your BFP but as others said, try not to read into random spotting. It happens. Most of the time it means nothing.

cabgirl · November 2014

I had two pink spots in CM at 8 dpo last month and didn't get my BFP. (And I NEVER experience mid-cycle spotting.) FX that it's your month and what you experienced truly was implantation bleeding, but like other posters will tell you - spotting of various kinds mid-cycle is super common, and even if it doesn't generally happen to you, it's always possible that that will change, or that this month was different for one reason or another. I don't mean to be a downer, but I got my hopes up last month when it happened to me (even though I swore I wasn't going to), and it made CD1 so much harder than it needed to be. If I were you, I'd assume it was something different, like a bit of bleeding from a skin or cervix irritation.

EveryStormX2 · November 2014

I didn't realize there was an IB forum- my bad.

Not asking *IF* that's what it was, I do know the only way to know will be when its time to test and that none of you are psychic. Was just curious to hear from those who have experienced/know more about it.

I knew I shouldn't have posted. I'm a basket case of emotions, irrational thoughts and I feel like word vomiting all over everyone about everything. I'm sorry, girls.

EveryStormX2 · November 2014

srv84 said:
I had two pink spots in CM at 8 dpo last month and didn't get my BFP. (And I NEVER experience mid-cycle spotting.) FX that it's your month and what you experienced truly was implantation bleeding, but like other posters will tell you - spotting of various kinds mid-cycle is super common, and even if it doesn't generally happen to you, it's always possible that that will change, or that this month was different for one reason or another. I don't mean to be a downer, but I got my hopes up last month when it happened to me (even though I swore I wasn't going to), and it made CD1 so much harder than it needed to be. If I were you, I'd assume it was something different, like a bit of bleeding from a skin or cervix irritation.

I've been trying SO hard not to read into things. I was doing great, all nonchalant about it all, until last night. This month, we weren't trying to get pregnant. We're in the process of divorce. Long story I posted about last week

Id be thrilled with a BFP regardless, but the extenuating circumstances seem to be making every little thing that much harder. I'm being whiny. I wish I could curl up with a bottle of cheap wine and just hug my cat.

cateyes543 · November 2014

I really think you are looking for it to be IB but like I said in the 2WW, it would only be a hindsight thing. You can start testing in a few days and then you will know for sure if it is spotting or IB. Come back to the 2WW and ride the crazy train over there!

themrsJRD · November 2014

Even if you got a bfp, there would still be no way of knowing whether or not the spotting you had was implantation bleeding or random spotting. Absolutely no way to ever know. Correspondence does not equal causation.

EveryStormX2 · November 2014

It really just took me off guard because it's never happened to me before. I shall keep my crazy dedicated to TWW.
Sorry again. (I wish xanax were an option right now). So sorry girls.

cabgirl · November 2014

EveryStormX2 said:

I had two pink spots in CM at 8 dpo last month and didn't get my BFP. (And I NEVER experience mid-cycle spotting.) FX that it's your month and what you experienced truly was implantation bleeding, but like other posters will tell you - spotting of various kinds mid-cycle is super common, and even if it doesn't generally happen to you, it's always possible that that will change, or that this month was different for one reason or another. I don't mean to be a downer, but I got my hopes up last month when it happened to me (even though I swore I wasn't going to), and it made CD1 so much harder than it needed to be. If I were you, I'd assume it was something different, like a bit of bleeding from a skin or cervix irritation.
I've been trying SO hard not to read into things. I was doing great, all nonchalant about it all, until last night. This month, we weren't trying to get pregnant. We're in the process of divorce. Long story I posted about last week Id be thrilled with a BFP regardless, but the extenuating circumstances seem to be making every little thing that much harder. I'm being whiny. I wish I could curl up with a bottle of cheap wine and just hug my cat.

Oh, I'm really sorry.

That is a whole lot to be going through at once. The TWW is hard enough on its own without all those emotional complications thrown in. T&P for you and your peace of mind.

PrimRoseMama · November 2014

@EveryStormX2‌ : "Not asking *IF* that's what it was, I do know the only way to know will be when its time to test and that none of you are psychic. Was just curious to hear from those who have experienced/know more about it. "

I had IB with my son. The only reason I know it was IB is due to a) the limited number of times we had sex b) the dating ultrasound around 7 weeks.

We had sex 10/31. I must have ovulated around 11/1 or 11/2. 11/3 & 11/4 I had brown spotting just when I wiped & a little bit of red in my undies. Then I got my BFP on 11/16.

There isn't much to know about IB, to be frank. When the fertilized egg burrows into the lining it can cause some spotting. That's it in a nut-shell. Not everyone experiences it & even one pg to another it's a toss up.

Finally, experiences are one thing, but they really don't matter. Talking about it won't make it true for you or anyone else. I'd wait two weeks & test. If it was IB then you'll be pregnant.

Spotting for no apparent reason happens too.

EveryStormX2 · November 2014

PrimRoseMama said:
@EveryStormX2‌ : "Not asking *IF* that's what it was, I do know the only way to know will be when its time to test and that none of you are psychic. Was just curious to hear from those who have experienced/know more about it. "

I had IB with my son. The only reason I know it was IB is due to a) the limited number of times we had sex b) the dating ultrasound around 7 weeks.

We had sex 10/31. I must have ovulated around 11/1 or 11/2. 11/3 & 11/4 I had brown spotting just when I wiped & a little bit of red in my undies. Then I got my BFP on 11/16.

There isn't much to know about IB, to be frank. When the fertilized egg burrows into the lining it can cause some spotting. That's it in a nut-shell. Not everyone experiences it & even one pg to another it's a toss up.

Finally, experiences are one thing, but they really don't matter. Talking about it won't make it true for you or anyone else. I'd wait two weeks & test. If it was IB then you'll be pregnant.

Spotting for no apparent reason happens too.

Thanks for sharing your experience @PrimRoseMama‌. The timing is what gets me speculating. And I know how awful and ugly speculation is while TTC/TWW'ing. I had a +OPK 10/29 and 10/30. We had sex the night of 10/30. Late night 10/30 the opk was barely positive. Based on cramping, I assumed O was 11/2 (explained in TWW sat that temping has been f*%#ed since starting night shift). We again had sex 11/1. The timing is what has me going over and over that this "could" be IB. That and I've never had a thing like this happen in my 25 year life span. I know speculation is wrong. I know that every woman and body and pregnancy is different. And I know that the only answer is waiting it out and peeing on the stupid stick.

It's frustrating as hell that a) I'm getting divorced, b) I even had sex with soon to be EX husband and c) I'm here right now being a complete drama queen/symptom investigator. I'm actually losing my shit and it's so not cool. I said I wouldn't do this. Getting a BFP would be less than ideal, given the situation. Does that mean that after three losses, and almost a year and a half of TTC im hoping for a bfn, Nope- as nuts as that might sound. This wasn't planned, but I'm here as product of self admitted irresponsibility.

Once more, apologizing for my insanity. Anyone know of any mental institutions with available beds?

PrimRoseMama · November 2014

@EveryStormX2‌ : "t's frustrating as hell that a) I'm getting divorced, b) I even had sex with soon to be EX husband and c) I'm here right now being a complete drama queen/symptom investigator. I'm actually losing my shit and it's so not cool. I said I wouldn't do this. Getting a BFP would be less than ideal, given the situation. Does that mean that after three losses, and almost a year and a half of TTC im hoping for a bfn, Nope- as nuts as that might sound. This wasn't planned, but I'm here as product of self admitted irresponsibility."

I hope things work out however you want them to. What is the plan if you get your BFP?

lilsneezy · November 2014

EveryStormX2 said:

@EveryStormX2‌ : "Not asking *IF* that's what it was, I do know the only way to know will be when its time to test and that none of you are psychic. Was just curious to hear from those who have experienced/know more about it. " I had IB with my son. The only reason I know it was IB is due to a) the limited number of times we had sex b) the dating ultrasound around 7 weeks. We had sex 10/31. I must have ovulated around 11/1 or 11/2. 11/3 & 11/4 I had brown spotting just when I wiped & a little bit of red in my undies. Then I got my BFP on 11/16. There isn't much to know about IB, to be frank. When the fertilized egg burrows into the lining it can cause some spotting. That's it in a nut-shell. Not everyone experiences it & even one pg to another it's a toss up. Finally, experiences are one thing, but they really don't matter. Talking about it won't make it true for you or anyone else. I'd wait two weeks & test. If it was IB then you'll be pregnant. Spotting for no apparent reason happens too.
Thanks for sharing your experience @PrimRoseMama‌. The timing is what gets me speculating. And I know how awful and ugly speculation is while TTC/TWW'ing. I had a +OPK 10/29 and 10/30. We had sex the night of 10/30. Late night 10/30 the opk was barely positive. Based on cramping, I assumed O was 11/2 (explained in TWW sat that temping has been f*%#ed since starting night shift). We again had sex 11/1. The timing is what has me going over and over that this "could" be IB. That and I've never had a thing like this happen in my 25 year life span. I know speculation is wrong. I know that every woman and body and pregnancy is different. And I know that the only answer is waiting it out and peeing on the stupid stick. It's frustrating as hell that a) I'm getting divorced, b) I even had sex with soon to be EX husband and c) I'm here right now being a complete drama queen/symptom investigator. I'm actually losing my shit and it's so not cool. I said I wouldn't do this. Getting a BFP would be less than ideal, given the situation. Does that mean that after three losses, and almost a year and a half of TTC im hoping for a bfn, Nope- as nuts as that might sound. This wasn't planned, but I'm here as product of self admitted irresponsibility. Once more, apologizing for my insanity. Anyone know of any mental institutions with available beds?

I'm confused. You said this wasn't planned but you took an OPK, got a positive and had unprotected sex two times during your FW? Sounds like it was planned to me.

(Edit: Words are hard)

icaughtfire · November 2014

Yeaaaah, OP I'm gonna have to say this was no accident. Nice try though.

PrimRoseMama · November 2014

Joy2611 said:

PrimRoseMama said:

We had sex 10/31. I must have ovulated around 11/1 or 11/2. 11/3 & 11/4 I had brown spotting just when I wiped & a little bit of red in my undies. Then I got my BFP on 11/16.

@PrimRoseMama: I hate to say this, but there's no way that spotting on 11/3 or 11/4 was implantation spotting. Implantation happens 7 - 10 days post ovulation. On those days that you spotted, you were 1 or 2 days post ovulation.

EDIT: Unless you meant 11/13 and 11/14? I'd believe it then.

Ah yes. You are right. I stand corrected! Random spotting it was! I'm ok with it either way, but you are better with the math. Now that I recalculate I see what you mean. Proof that it's all a crap shoot & spotting is random!

PrimRoseMama · November 2014

Also, I have to also say using OPK's is planning.

smash928 · November 2014

My first 2WW I about drove myself insane symptom spotting, so I know how that goes, but just like PP have said, the symptoms only mean something if there is a BFP to go along with it. Only time will tell.

I understand that you are in a very fragile place, but I think you need to take a step back. If your comment about a mental institution was legitimate, then by all means, seek the help that you need. No one will judge you for falling apart in such a difficult time. If that was meant as a joke, however, it is extremely insensitive. Many people struggle with depression, mental illness, anxiety, etc., so statistically speaking, there are bound to be ladies in this forum who have experienced those battles, either personally or via someone close to them (me being one of them). Mental health is nothing to joke about.

cateyes543 · November 2014

I just have to say I am surprised it took all week for someone to say this looks planned. In the re-intro she stated she was using OPKs "out of curiosity" and had sex after positive ones.

PrimRoseMama · November 2014

cateyes543 said:
I just have to say I am surprised it took all week for someone to say this looks planned. In the re-intro she stated she was using OPKs "out of curiosity" and had sex after positive ones.

I've been thinking it but I didn't want to bust out my flamethrower.

mosdub · November 2014

I can't imagine what you are going through, and don't blame you even if you were maybe kind of hoping to still get pregnant despite the circumstances. It sounds like the rational side of you knew that sleeping with your ex and potentially getting pregnant was a bad idea, but the emotional side of you wanted a baby so bad that you were willing to go ahead in spite of the divorce.

I do hope you have someone you can talk to IRL about all of this - no matter how it plays out. It sounds like a heavy load to carry and you need other people to help you process through it and vent to about it.

Good luck, and I hope you find peace/answers/healing no matter what the outcome is. If you're only 25 you have plenty of time to find someone who is deserving of your love that you can start (or continue) a family with.

lilsneezy · November 2014

PrimRoseMama said:

I just have to say I am surprised it took all week for someone to say this looks planned. In the re-intro she stated she was using OPKs "out of curiosity" and had sex after positive ones.
I've been thinking it but I didn't want to bust out my flamethrower.

cateyes543 · November 2014

frankenboom said:

bibliothecary said:

cateyes543 said:
I just have to say I am surprised it took all week for someone to say this looks planned. In the re-intro she stated she was using OPKs "out of curiosity" and had sex after positive ones.
I was trying to ignore it and hope it went away.
--------

This. Plus I was the resident asshole a couple of weeks ago.

I have been ragey all week from hitting the 1 year mark so I was thinking I may have just been being an asshole and don't want to become this weeks resident asshole. Nope I take it back, this post pushed me over.

lilsneezy · November 2014

@cateyes543 *Hugs* hitting the 1 year mark sucks ass.

URMySunshine77 · November 2014

Hug to you, @cateyes543.

EveryStormX2 · November 2014

Sorry to have offended people with my psych ward comment. Life is a little complicated at the moment- snark is ok for others but not for me? And as indicated in my re-intro to this board, my husband and I miscarried shortly after I found out he cheated and his ex wife is pregnant. AF returned sooner than after my 2 previous losses, so I bought the Opks to see how "normal" my body was. If it was the real deal, continued bleeding post loss, etc. The sex, not planned. He came over, we fought, he's still my HUSBAND. The second time, we used a condom. Condom broke. SHIT happens. No, it's not ideal, yes, I DO feel stupid as hell to even be sitting here in a TWW waiting to find out if my soon to be ex husband are going to be expecting parents. I take responsibility for it, but it was NOT planned. Our timing was never this perfect when we WERE TTC. Shit fucking happens.

As for the dates, I had a friend look at opks. She's a FF and TCOYF geek. She guess based on the opks that O was most likely 10/31. That puts today 9DPO, yesterday 8DPO and at this point, I don't even care what the spotting was/is/means/doesn't mean.

And a side note: I work in EMS, I take patients into psych wards. I feel for them, I'm not a cold person. But those in my field, we have a different sense of humor than the "norm." Sorry, that's just how it is.

EveryStormX2 · November 2014

I've been an active member of this place for a while now. I've made a few friends. I was actively ttc'ing and using this as a support for months. Actively posting. Offering support. I make one obviously offensive to some comment (when I've read comments from others that seem downright cruel in my opinion) and now I'm a conspirator?

I took a TTC break with soon to be ex before my birthday. I found out all of this life changing information. I came back here, hoping for a little bit more support. Thankful for those IRL I do have. If none of you can't understand how emotionally difficult it is to divorce the person you thought you were spending your life with, who you were planning a family with, and can't comprehend how easy it might be to slip up (and then make an effort to be protected when it happened again), then honestly, I'm glad for you. Because finding out that the life you were living isn't the life you were living at all, downright SUCKS.

So thanks.

EveryStormX2 · November 2014

I never joked or poked fun at mental illness. I never said anything about people WITH mental illness. I myself have been depressed, o gosh, probably a lot recently and after my other two losses. I would never attack anyone for having a mental illness. It was more like a "my life feels crazy" right now that was just blow way the fuck out of proportion.

rajahmd · November 2014

EveryStormX2 said:
I never joked or poked fun at mental illness. I never said anything about people WITH mental illness. I myself have been depressed, o gosh, probably a lot recently and after my other two losses. I would never attack anyone for having a mental illness. It was more like a "my life feels crazy" right now that was just blow way the fuck out of proportion.

*cough* bullshit *cough*

Pretty sure "Anyone know of any mental institutions with available beds?" was a joke. Otherwise, you wouldn't have edited it out of your OP.

EveryStormX2 · November 2014

I didn't edit anything out? I changed a few spelling errors but never removed anything, thanks. And sorry to those I offended. Done.

EveryStormX2 · November 2014

That was CLARIFYING that in my original comment about available beds, which I never denied I wrote, that I was NOT intending to make fun of or belittle those who suffer from mental illness. It was meant to be taken as like I mentioned in that first quote up there, "my life feels crazy" kind of sarcastic comment. Not a joke. Just my life feels like insanity. And that is all I meant by it.

EveryStormX2 · November 2014

How about everyone stop commenting then? I'm not a mean person, I meant no disrespect and I apologize to those who took offense.

It's also quite unfair to judge my life when you haven't lived it. Just sayin'.

EveryStormX2 · November 2014

I certainly regret posting the comment in the first place.

icaughtfire · November 2014

OP, you need to sort out your fucking life, not spend your time defending your stupid comments on the interwebz.

Have I hooked up with someone while we were going through a break up? Yeah, I was young & stupid and feelings don't disappear overnight. HOWEVER, when I did that I didn't get a +OPK and then slip and fall on his penis. Unprotected. Multiple times. You can try to play if off however you'd like but I truly believe you knew exactly what you were doing. You think your situation is difficult now? I'm sure a baby will definitely make things much easier.

lilsneezy · November 2014

EveryStormX2 said:

How about everyone stop commenting then? I'm not a mean person, I meant no disrespect and I apologize to those who took offense. It's also quite unfair to judge my life when you haven't lived it. Just sayin'.

Seriously? You're the one putting it ALL out there.

(Edit: @CFearsy get outta my head!)

cateyes543 · November 2014

lilsneezy said:

@cateyes543 *Hugs* hitting the 1 year mark sucks ass.

Thanks

I think I am more accepting of it now but for the majority of the week I put myself in mainly lurker mode to not cause to much trouble.

cateyes543 · November 2014

frankenboom said:

I certainly regret posting the comment in the first place.
------- I'm sure you do. You very clearly came here looking for sympathy and you got it in the beginning. But then you said stupid shit and you continuously play the pain Olympics. Just be honest. You fucked your soon-to-be ex twice after you'd gotten + OPKs hoping that you'd get pregnant and he'd stay. Stop trying to make anyone here out to be a bad guy for finally calling you on this (and your other very very distasteful and offensive comments - yes comments - regarding mental health (before the "any beds" one you joked about wishing you could take Xanax)).

People were VERY nice to you in the beginning. Even in the 2WW thread we have had patience and given you support and kind words ALL FUCKING WEEK. More than you could have hoped for. Then today you ask a question, people, myself included, were STILL VERY NICE to you and you did not like the answer so you went to the main board like someone was going to give you unicorns and rainbows. They again were very nice, even when you made SHITTY comments about mental health. It is time to step away from the computer and stop hoping you will get a squeeee maybe it is a fixer baby! Stop sleeping with your ex unprotected when you are fertile if you are truly breaking up and stop asking the same questions hoping for different results.

cateyes543 · November 2014

Forgot to put my gif in!

EveryStormX2 · November 2014

I can't make one comment that I meant nothing by and have apologized for, but you can all attack my life, come up with your own ideas and personally attack me? That seems fair. Pregnant or not, our divorce will be final a few months from now.

I share my thoughts and my concerns while in a LOW place, and what, something is taken the wrong way and it's game over from there? I'm sure it's true, you're all much more perfect than I am.

I don't need hands to hold, I asked a simple question at the beginning of this thread. Experiences from other women. And being here, looking for the online support, that would have been the bonus because I've always received it in the past. Never once have I even made mention to "think he'll stay if I'm KU?" Fuck no. I'm not perfect, I fucked my soon to be ex. I happened to be ovulating 7 weeks out from a miscarriage. These are all things I already know and I've never made excuses for myself. But knowing I was ovulating, and using the opks, was a timing fluke. And yes! To point out the obvious, I DID know I was ovulating when we had our random sex- hence when it happened again, we used a condom! None of this is shock or surprise to me. But getting pregnant by someone Im in the middle of divorcing was NOT the plan.

I'm done with this. Good luck to all of you in your TTC journeys.

ETA: missing sentence

smash928 · November 2014

EveryStormX2 said:

Sorry to have offended people with my psych ward comment. Life is a little complicated at the moment- snark is ok for others but not for me? And as indicated in my re-intro to this board, my husband and I miscarried shortly after I found out he cheated and his ex wife is pregnant. AF returned sooner than after my 2 previous losses, so I bought the Opks to see how "normal" my body was. If it was the real deal, continued bleeding post loss, etc. The sex, not planned. He came over, we fought, he's still my HUSBAND. The second time, we used a condom. Condom broke. SHIT happens. No, it's not ideal, yes, I DO feel stupid as hell to even be sitting here in a TWW waiting to find out if my soon to be ex husband are going to be expecting parents. I take responsibility for it, but it was NOT planned. Our timing was never this perfect when we WERE TTC. Shit fucking happens. As for the dates, I had a friend look at opks. She's a FF and TCOYF geek. She guess based on the opks that O was most likely 10/31. That puts today 9DPO, yesterday 8DPO and at this point, I don't even care what the spotting was/is/means/doesn't mean. And a side note: I work in EMS, I take patients into psych wards. I feel for them, I'm not a cold person. But those in my field, we have a different sense of humor than the "norm." Sorry, that's just how it is .

Yeah, no. I work in the medical field as well, and yes, I have a very different sense of humor than my non-medical friends, as in I can joke about bodily fluids over lunch without grossing out. Down's Syndrome is a disease, just as mental illness is. Would it be okay for me to mock having Down's Syndrome? No? Then guess what? It's no different with mental illness.

I tried to be nice in explaining why it was insensitive, and clearly that was a waste of time because you {fill in the blank, if I do it I'll violate TOU}.

ETA: If you have to preface your post with "don't hate me," perhaps you should rethink posting it.

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