So for the last 3 weeks, DS has had those mustard yellow seedy poops. He had a few days of very watery mustard yellow poops, and now his poops are green. They're not frothy, but could this mean he's suddenly not getting enough hindmilk? My overachiever boob has a nipple injury so I pumped today and got 4 ounces in 2 sessions so I think my supply is okay? He has a pedi appointment on Monday so I'll ask then, just hoping nothing is wrong with my milk...
ETA: I'm EBF.
Me: 30 | DH: 4/12/85 - 6/16/14 | Quinn Patrick born 9/28/14
So for the last 3 weeks, DS has had those mustard yellow seedy poops. He had a few days of very watery mustard yellow poops, and now his poops are green. They're not frothy, but could this mean he's suddenly not getting enough hindmilk? My overachiever boob has a nipple injury so I pumped today and got 4 ounces in 2 sessions so I think my supply is okay? He has a pedi appointment on Monday so I'll ask then, just hoping nothing is wrong with my milk...
ETA: I'm EBF.
@windwithfingers I'm having the exact same problem! They are still seedy but green. I am doing block feeding now to see if it helps. This is day 1...
So for the last 3 weeks, DS has had those mustard yellow seedy poops. He had a few days of very watery mustard yellow poops, and now his poops are green. They're not frothy, but could this mean he's suddenly not getting enough hindmilk? My overachiever boob has a nipple injury so I pumped today and got 4 ounces in 2 sessions so I think my supply is okay? He has a pedi appointment on Monday so I'll ask then, just hoping nothing is wrong with my milk...
ETA: I'm EBF.
Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it...poop randomly changes color sometimes. Froth or mucous might be a sign of an issue but otherwise, it's probably just random.
That's what I'm thinking (hoping). The only thing that's changed in our routine is the color of his poo.
Me: 30 | DH: 4/12/85 - 6/16/14 | Quinn Patrick born 9/28/14
Occasional green poop is not a big deal as long as baby is gaining well and has a happy disposition. It typically shows up when baby gets mostly foremilk because of oversupply, too infrequent feeding, or switching to the second breast too early in a feeding.
Foremilk and hindmilk aren't two types of milk. Your breasts produce one kind of milk, but as the milk sits in your breasts, the fatty cream rises to the top. So the first milk baby gets has a lower fat content and higher lactase content. If you notice green stool once or twice, there's no reason to worry or do anything about it. If the green stools are consistent, you can:
- Do breast massage before nursing to reincorporate some of the cream into the foremilk. - Take care to allow baby to "finish the first side first." Don't nurse for some arbitrary amount of time on each breast, but nurse on one until baby has unlatched contentedly, and only then offer the second breast (or burp baby, offer the first breast again, and offer the second after that. - If baby sleeps a long stretch or something and you're engorged, express a small amount before nursing baby.
1) I found a pea - sized lump in my breast. I'm trying to not panic, and started block feeding (for lots of reasons). It doesn't hurt. It's next to the nipple, but not on it. Any thoughts?
2) 2 hours is absurd for feeding, right? If I'm supposed to feed her every two hours, and you count from the time you start, then we just eat all day? A bottle is looking very attractive. I'd get to sleep at least an hour and a half every two hours.
Does the lump get any smaller after you nurse? Try some massage in a warm shower and a warm compress + massage before you nurse. If it's a plug, those things should help clear it. There are other recs for managing plugs in this thread.
How old is LO now? And is she back up to birthweight? At some point, you'll be told you can wake her every 3 hours to nurse at night, and then at some point you'll be able to stop waking her and just nurse on demand.
Caring for newborns is rough. It's relentless no matter how they're fed. There really is something to be said for sleeping when they sleep...little stretches throughout the day and night.
It does get better. They do sleep longer stretches, and they don't always nurse "like newborns." You'll hit a milestone or growth spurt or baby will start teething, and you'll realize just how much more sleep you were getting.
Does the lump get any smaller after you nurse? Try some massage in a warm shower and a warm compress + massage before you nurse. If it's a plug, those things should help clear it. There are other recs for managing plugs in this thread.
How old is LO now? And is she back up to birthweight? At some point, you'll be told you can wake her every 3 hours to nurse at night, and then at some point you'll be able to stop waking her and just nurse on demand.
Caring for newborns is rough. It's relentless no matter how they're fed. There really is something to be said for sleeping when they sleep...little stretches throughout the day and night.
It does get better. They do sleep longer stretches, and they don't always nurse "like newborns." You'll hit a milestone or growth spurt or baby will start teething, and you'll realize just how much more sleep you were getting.
No it doesn't seem to get smaller. I can try the heat and compress, but not the shower yet. I'm too afraid to face the water.
I'm just discouraged. A bottle would take 15 minutes. Our bf sessions are no less than an hour. I fell asleep feeding her this morning (laid back) and I feel like that's really dangerous.
Does the lump get any smaller after you nurse? Try some massage in a warm shower and a warm compress + massage before you nurse. If it's a plug, those things should help clear it. There are other recs for managing plugs in this thread.
How old is LO now? And is she back up to birthweight? At some point, you'll be told you can wake her every 3 hours to nurse at night, and then at some point you'll be able to stop waking her and just nurse on demand.
Caring for newborns is rough. It's relentless no matter how they're fed. There really is something to be said for sleeping when they sleep...little stretches throughout the day and night.
It does get better. They do sleep longer stretches, and they don't always nurse "like newborns." You'll hit a milestone or growth spurt or baby will start teething, and you'll realize just how much more sleep you were getting.
No it doesn't seem to get smaller. I can try the heat and compress, but not the shower yet. I'm too afraid to face the water.
I'm just discouraged. A bottle would take 15 minutes. Our bf sessions are no less than an hour. I fell asleep feeding her this morning (laid back) and I feel like that's really dangerous.
Purp, I'm EPing and sometimes bottles take up to an hour too. She does the same thing she did on the boob. Falls asleep, etc. So it's not necessarily faster.
@SPurp13
Does the lump get any smaller after you nurse? Try some massage in a warm shower and a warm compress + massage before you nurse. If it's a plug, those things should help clear it. There are other recs for managing plugs in this thread.
How old is LO now? And is she back up to birthweight? At some point, you'll be told you can wake her every 3 hours to nurse at night, and then at some point you'll be able to stop waking her and just nurse on demand.
Caring for newborns is rough. It's relentless no matter how they're fed. There really is something to be said for sleeping when they sleep...little stretches throughout the day and night.
It does get better. They do sleep longer stretches, and they don't always nurse "like newborns." You'll hit a milestone or growth spurt or baby will start teething, and you'll realize just how much more sleep you were getting.
No it doesn't seem to get smaller. I can try the heat and compress, but not the shower yet. I'm too afraid to face the water.
I'm just discouraged. A bottle would take 15 minutes. Our bf sessions are no less than an hour. I fell asleep feeding her this morning (laid back) and I feel like that's really dangerous.
Hang in there, @spurp13! I have been there and I know it's tough. When I was ready to give up with DS1 at two weeks old, I was fantasizing about how easy a bottle would be. My mom FF me and my sister, then BF my brother. She said the first few weeks of difficulty BFing him were SO worth the ease of not having to deal with bottles the rest of his infancy. The bottles have to be prepared, warmed, washed, etc. and like PP said, the baby may not take it quickly anyway.
I wanted to quit so badly but ended up sticking with it. The first two weeks were torture for me, then the next few weeks were hard, but by 6-8 weeks or so it was the easiest thing ever and I was getting so much more sleep. Like others have said, quit on your best day. That was the best advice I ever got when I comes to BFing and is really what got me through.
@spurp I doubt baby is actively feeding for 2 hours. Have you had a chance to do any weighed feedings? Chances are that baby transfers the most in the first 20-30 minutes on one side, and a lot of it is comfort sucking after that. Do you hear active swallowing the whole time?
An hour isn't too far outside the realm of normal, though it is a long time. They're using a shield, which can slow things down a bit. Once they're able to wean off the shield, I'd expect feedings to speed up a bit.
I haven't posted in a few months, so I hope you guys don't mind me jumping back in with a question.
DS is 2 weeks old and past his birth weight, so we got the ok from his ped to stop waking him up to eat. But what do I do if he's showing hunger signs in his sleep? Over night last night he'd start grunting and putting his hands to his mouth and rooting around, but was still clearly asleep. All but one time I woke him up to eat, but he didn't seem to eat as long as usual, and wouldn't take the second breast. The time I let him stay asleep he woke up screaming, so I'm thinking I let him go too long and he was really, really hungry by then. Thuoghts?
@spurp I doubt baby is actively feeding for 2 hours. Have you had a chance to do any weighed feedings? Chances are that baby transfers the most in the first 20-30 minutes on one side, and a lot of it is comfort sucking after that. Do you hear active swallowing the whole time?
Yeah I hear swallowing the whole time. We went to the doctor and he wants us to pump to see how much I'm making. He wants us to give her 2.5 to 3 ounces every 3 to 4 hours. So if I don't make that much, supplement. I'm having mixed feelings. I couldn't birth her. She had to be cut out. I can't feed her. I feel like I can't bond with her. And breastfeeding her was the only thing that I had. But now it's bottles and my husband will do that while I pump. But on the other hand, I was so stressed not knowing how much she was getting.
@SPurp13 Your pedi's suggestion concerns me, because pumping is not a good indicator of supply. Even if you only pumped .5oz in 15 minutes, baby might get 1-2oz from the breast in 10 or less.
So much of breastfeeding is psychological, and when you're stressed, you won't pump as much. The pump is also not cute, and the cuteness factor really matters. You love your baby, and the touch of her skin helps you produce milk. The massaging action of baby's jaw is very different from pump suction, and the cold plastic of the pump doesn't do anything for you love-wise...pumping also is a technique that takes practice.
I worry that if you don't get enough pumping to satisfy your doctor, you'll be bottle feeding when in reality there isn't a supply issue or a real need for it.
How is LO's weight gain? Could you call your LC and discuss your pedi's recommendation with her? Good luck!
@SPurp13 Your pedi's suggestion concerns me, because pumping is not a good indicator of supply. Even if you only pumped .5oz in 15 minutes, baby might get 1-2oz from the breast in 10 or less.
So much of breastfeeding is psychological, and when you're stressed, you won't pump as much. The pump is also not cute, and the cuteness factor really matters. You love your baby, and the touch of her skin helps you produce milk. The massaging action of baby's jaw is very different from pump suction, and the cold plastic of the pump doesn't do anything for you love-wise...pumping also is a technique that takes practice.
I worry that if you don't get enough pumping to satisfy your doctor, you'll be bottle feeding when in reality there isn't a supply issue or a real need for it.
How is LO's weight gain? Could you call your LC and discuss your pedi's recommendation with her? Good luck!
She keeps losing weight. The only time she gained was when she was on formula. I thought about the things you mention but we go back to him next Tuesday so I'm hoping once we see how much I get I can try again then. The LC doesn't work Friday through Sunday but I can call her Monday.
He said she may be burning extra calories in these 2-hour sessions and like some suggested, she's just soothing, not eating or getting anything. We are trying a paci today for those situations. I hate that but. We are trying everything. She just seems so much more content after a bottle.
She also only took 1.5 oz just now. He wants 2.5 to 3. I can't force it but it seems curious. We will shoot for 3 hours instead of 4.
I guess I'm just confused because I know there are done exclusively pumping moms on the board. How do they do it?
The closest person would probably be over an hour away. I'm pretty much stuck until Monday. I can ask about a weighted feed then but I doubt she will want me to be in her office for 2 hours while I feed. I don't know. But I will ask.
I just know our plan, based on what he said, was to feed her every 3 hours 3oz. And I'd pump while that happened. But if you think I need to pump more...I will. I'm just scared of oversupply. Which is what I thought I had until she got even skinnier.
The bit about a weak suck sounds like something. But every nurse and LC that had seen her said it looked good. I'll ask about that on Monday.
I think the new plan is to feed her 15-20 min on both sides then pump 20 minutes, giving her what we pumped the last time to top it off. I'm somewhat happy with that, but I have to wonder about all the people saying it's normal to have her latched all day, laying in bed, trying to boost supply.
It's just difficult when we have appointments every day and people parading in and out of the house. Everyone else has held my baby more than I have.
Also, to those who say she needs 3 oz a feeding, how do I get her to do that without throwing it up? She will not take more than 1.5 and when she did, she threw it all up.
Also, to those who say she needs 3 oz a feeding, how do I get her to do that without throwing it up? She will not take more than 1.5 and when she did, she threw it all up.
Could it be the type of bottle you are using? Maybe the flow is too fast. That could cause her to throw it up. Even if it says the bottle is slow flow, we found that every brand was different. The Playtex Ventaire was slower than the Dr Brown bottles.
DD1 never ate as much as her pedi said she needed to. She was only taking maybe 1-2 oz of pumped breastmilk per feeding at 1 week old. The most she ever drank at once was maybe 5 oz and she was on a bottle till she was a year old. She was a slow grower but healthy and consistent. We tried everyrhing to get her to eat more, too but nothing seemed to work. She also took a bottle every two hours until she was a year old so she was maybe more of a snacker anything.
Also, to those who say she needs 3 oz a feeding, how do I get her to do that without throwing it up? She will not take more than 1.5 and when she did, she threw it all up.
Could it be the type of bottle you are using? Maybe the flow is too fast. That could cause her to throw it up. Even if it says the bottle is slow flow, we found that every brand was different. The Playtex Ventaire was slower than the Dr Brown bottles.
DD1 never ate as much as her pedi said she needed to. She was only taking maybe 1-2 oz of pumped breastmilk per feeding at 1 week old. The most she ever drank at once was maybe 5 oz and she was on a bottle till she was a year old. She was a slow grower but healthy and consistent. We tried everyrhing to get her to eat more, too but nothing seemed to work. She also took a bottle every two hours until she was a year old so she was maybe more of a snacker anything.
We tried two. The Tommie tippee and she was fine with it and ate 1.5 oz. 2.5 hours later we tried the medela slow flow and she took 2 oz and threw up. So we are going back to the Tommie tippee next time.
1-2 per feeding is what we are getting in her. She seems content with it. I'm scared to force it.
If DH heats up a bottle of BM and DD only drinks half, can we put it back in the fridge and give her the rest later?
Its not recommended. BM is good at room temp for 4-6 hours. Dont heat it too much, just bring it to room temp and it will still be good at her next feeding if she eats within 4 hours.
@SPurp13 hang in there. Everyone has given you great advice. I have not been able to successfully breastfeed yet so feel free to take what I say with a grain of salt. I EPed for a year with DD1 and we are all over the place now with me attempting BFing several times a day, pumping after, and just pumping the rest of the day. I just wanted to chime in and say do the best you can. Try for the goal of pumping 8 times a day but if you can't don't beat yourself up for it. If you are feeding and pumping and you are trying to get in 8 pumps a day that is extremely difficult. I made myself miserable my first pregnancy obsessing over breastfeeding and missed out on quality time with DD. If you think you are getting to the point where you are not enjoying your baby then you need to evaluate what is best for you and your family.
Regarding EPing, it is definitely more time consuming than BF long term. You are pumping and bottle feeding. I also didn't like that I missed out on snuggle time. However, for me BF was so painful and LO was never satisfied so EPing was the best choice for me and my family with DD1. I'm not sure how things will work this time, but no matter how things work out I'm going to try not to be hard on myself because an unhappy mommy is certainly not good for DD1 and DD2.
With pumping and BFing the LC consultant I saw recommended 15 minute pumping sessions so that's what I'm doing for now. If I switch to EPing I will probably increase to 20 minutes.
Seems there are quite a few of us dealing with poor weight gain/weight loss and have to pump and supplement. Does anyone know what the likelihood is for us to get to a place where we can exclusively breastfeed? Or, with the introduction of bottles, are we pretty much stuck supplementing for the long haul? Also, for those who fb then pump and give that milk to baby, what is your timeline like? I was told to breastfeed, then pump, then feed her what I pumped but it takes at least 30 minutes to bf( have to constantly wake her up, repeatedly switch sides, but not do this past 30 mins), then I usually can't pump right away but try within the hour after BFing her, then it takes 15-20 mins to pump...sometimes she doesn't have her bottle until an 1 & 1/2 after the start of nursing. I'm not sure when one feeding session ends and the next begins.
I'm seeing lots of weighed feedings mentioned. How surprising!
For everyone doing weighed feedings, don't be too discouraged if they don't go as planned. They're really not the greatest way to tell how much milk LO is getting at every feeding:
Just like you are more hungry at some meals than others, and more hungry some days than others, LO's hunger level can vary from feeding to feeding, and thus how much milk he takes can vary from feeding to feeding. You're only going to find out how much milk was transferred at one specific feeding...
A weighed morning feeding might have a higher result than a weighed afternoon feeding, because your supply is highest and milk most abundant in the morning. More milk will often be transferred faster at earlier feedings too.
Fat content in milk varies from feeding to feeding, so LO sometimes will nurse less and take less milk at a feeding with higher fat content.
Anxiety can suppress a mother's milk ejection reflex, making a weighed feeding less productive because mom is nervous about the outcome.
Weighed feedings are a helpful tool in some situations and when done with a very accurate scale by an IBCLC. But I'll say again, don't be too discouraged if your weighed feeding doesn't go as planned!
If LO uses me as a pacifier, do I still need to burp him?
He may take in some air when he latches, but once he has a good latch, he shouldn't really take in any air, because his mouth will create a tight seal on your breast.
So you might want to burp him when he unlatches on his own. Maybe you'll get a burp, maybe you won't.
I think the new plan is to feed her 15-20 min on both sides then pump 20 minutes, giving her what we pumped the last time to top it off. I'm somewhat happy with that, but I have to wonder about all the people saying it's normal to have her latched all day, laying in bed, trying to boost supply.
It's just difficult when we have appointments every day and people parading in and out of the house. Everyone else has held my baby more than I have.
@SPurp13 This sounds like a good plan. Much better for your supply to nurse her as usual and pump in addition to nursing. Hopefully you start seeing some weight gain right away so that you don't have to keep this up for long!
Remember when you're supplementing that she is taking most of her total daily intake directly from the breast, so she doesn't need a 3oz bottle every 3 hours. Otherwise, there would be no reason for her to nurse. Maybe confirm with your pedi how many oz you should offer, and plan to save and freeze whatever else you've pumped.
Appointments might be unavoidable, but I would ask my DH to request no visitors for a week or two. People can drop off groceries or dinner or run errands for you, but this is your time to get to know baby, to recover from your birth, and to bond as a new family of three. Your baby will be available to hold for a long time yet, so no one needs to be showing up for visits right now. Have DH turn everyone away until you're rested and recovered and things are going well. This is his job.
Is there a point during the duration of breastfeeding when breasts become less tender? Or will they feel like I'm about to start my period kind of sore until LO ultimately weans?
Just curious.
Every mother is different, and some experience tenderness in their breasts longer than others, but most find that it dissipates and they go on to have pain-free nursing experiences. I was surprised to find that my breasts are tender again this time around even though I just weaned my toddler in July!
Most mothers do experience some breast tenderness early on, and it usually disappears by the time your supply regulates, so between 4 and 6 weeks. With DS1, my breasts were tender only for the first couple weeks and then whenever I became engorged...usually during a growth spurt when he was nursing a lot more. DS2 will be 3 weeks old tomorrow and I am still experiencing some tenderness. Hopefully it will disappear sooner rather than later.
Is there a point during the duration of breastfeeding when breasts become less tender? Or will they feel like I'm about to start my period kind of sore until LO ultimately weans?
Just curious.
Every mother is different, and some experience tenderness in their breasts longer than others, but most find that it dissipates and they go on to have pain-free nursing experiences. I was surprised to find that my breasts are tender again this time around even though I just weaned my toddler in July!
Most mothers do experience some breast tenderness early on, and it usually disappears by the time your supply regulates, so between 4 and 6 weeks. With DS1, my breasts were tender only for the first couple weeks and then whenever I became engorged...usually during a growth spurt when he was nursing a lot more. DS2 will be 3 weeks old tomorrow and I am still experiencing some tenderness. Hopefully it will disappear sooner rather than later.
It isn't really tender when I nurse, just between sessions. I'm not really engorged, just achy. Thanks for yoir answer!
Same here. Nursing doesn't hurt at all, but I get achy as time between sessions goes by.
I have a question and if it has been answered, I'm sorry. I've been keeping up with this thread since it started, but now I can participate!
LO is officially only a day and a half old. At his 24 hour weight check he has lost 5% of his body weight. He seems to have a shallow latch, and I've often wondered if he is getting enough at each feed. I've been feeding him when he shows signs of hunger and letting him just hang out and do skin to skin when he's on the boob, but not eating. He's had great output in diapers. Since about 8 pm last night, he's had 4 pee diapers and 4 poop diapers. The nurses in the nursery said I should start pumping and feeding him what I pump after I feed him on each side. I've done it once, but he seemed to have an upset stomach afterwards.
From diaper outputs at his age, it seems like I'm feeding him enough. But the suggestions in the hospital make me think I'm not. Any advice?
@apk4, he seems to have enough wet and dirty diapers so I am not sure why they asked you to pump. I would also be careful pumping this early (unless you absolutely have to) because it could trigger an oversupply of milk.
Losing up to 10% of birth weight is common in the first few days. I would focus on nursing as often as you can (at least every 2 hours during the day and every 3 hours or less at night) and doing skin to skin when you are not nursing to encourage your milk to come in.
@apk4, he seems to have enough wet and dirty diapers so I am not sure why they asked you to pump. I would also be careful pumping this early (unless you absolutely have to) because it could trigger an oversupply of milk.
Losing up to 10% of birth weight is common in the first few days. I would focus on nursing as often as you can (at least every 2 hours during the day and every 3 hours or less at night) and doing skin to skin when you are not nursing to encourage your milk to come in.
Thank you. Your advice is what I have been doing, so I think I'll continue with it. I was just confused why they would want me to pump so soon when he seems to be doing well.
@apk4 Babies are meant to lose some weight their first day of life. They're born with a layer of fat to lose (called brown fat), and average weight loss is 7% body weight.
No need to pump. Follow @ss265's recs. Just nurse and snuggle.
Have you been supplementing with bottles? I would suggest holding off on any artificial nipples until BFing is going great! See if an LC can evaluate his latch and suggest some positions to help. Try to make sure he opens wide every time he latched by tickling his lips with your nipple. Good luck!
Thanks @Emerald27! When they asked me to supplement, I used a syringe. He took awhile to latch and eat this morning, but he's been going better than ever before for about 20 minutes. I'm going to try and see a lactation consultant this week.
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ETA: I'm EBF.
Sometimes it's quick to pass and there are moments like right now where I'm struggling to get anything...
Foremilk and hindmilk aren't two types of milk. Your breasts produce one kind of milk, but as the milk sits in your breasts, the fatty cream rises to the top. So the first milk baby gets has a lower fat content and higher lactase content. If you notice green stool once or twice, there's no reason to worry or do anything about it. If the green stools are consistent, you can:
- Do breast massage before nursing to reincorporate some of the cream into the foremilk.
- Take care to allow baby to "finish the first side first." Don't nurse for some arbitrary amount of time on each breast, but nurse on one until baby has unlatched contentedly, and only then offer the second breast (or burp baby, offer the first breast again, and offer the second after that.
- If baby sleeps a long stretch or something and you're engorged, express a small amount before nursing baby.
1) I found a pea - sized lump in my breast. I'm trying to not panic, and started block feeding (for lots of reasons). It doesn't hurt. It's next to the nipple, but not on it. Any thoughts?
2) 2 hours is absurd for feeding, right? If I'm supposed to feed her every two hours, and you count from the time you start, then we just eat all day? A bottle is looking very attractive. I'd get to sleep at least an hour and a half every two hours.
Hallelujah.
Does the lump get any smaller after you nurse? Try some massage in a warm shower and a warm compress + massage before you nurse. If it's a plug, those things should help clear it. There are other recs for managing plugs in this thread.
How old is LO now? And is she back up to birthweight? At some point, you'll be told you can wake her every 3 hours to nurse at night, and then at some point you'll be able to stop waking her and just nurse on demand.
Caring for newborns is rough. It's relentless no matter how they're fed. There really is something to be said for sleeping when they sleep...little stretches throughout the day and night.
It does get better. They do sleep longer stretches, and they don't always nurse "like newborns." You'll hit a milestone or growth spurt or baby will start teething, and you'll realize just how much more sleep you were getting.
I'm just discouraged. A bottle would take 15 minutes. Our bf sessions are no less than an hour. I fell asleep feeding her this morning (laid back) and I feel like that's really dangerous.
Purp, I'm EPing and sometimes bottles take up to an hour too. She does the same thing she did on the boob. Falls asleep, etc. So it's not necessarily faster.
Eta: she lost more weight, that's why
So much of breastfeeding is psychological, and when you're stressed, you won't pump as much. The pump is also not cute, and the cuteness factor really matters. You love your baby, and the touch of her skin helps you produce milk. The massaging action of baby's jaw is very different from pump suction, and the cold plastic of the pump doesn't do anything for you love-wise...pumping also is a technique that takes practice.
I worry that if you don't get enough pumping to satisfy your doctor, you'll be bottle feeding when in reality there isn't a supply issue or a real need for it.
How is LO's weight gain? Could you call your LC and discuss your pedi's recommendation with her? Good luck!
He said she may be burning extra calories in these 2-hour sessions and like some suggested, she's just soothing, not eating or getting anything. We are trying a paci today for those situations. I hate that but. We are trying everything. She just seems so much more content after a bottle.
She also only took 1.5 oz just now. He wants 2.5 to 3. I can't force it but it seems curious. We will shoot for 3 hours instead of 4.
The closest person would probably be over an hour away. I'm pretty much stuck until Monday. I can ask about a weighted feed then but I doubt she will want me to be in her office for 2 hours while I feed. I don't know. But I will ask.
I just know our plan, based on what he said, was to feed her every 3 hours 3oz. And I'd pump while that happened. But if you think I need to pump more...I will. I'm just scared of oversupply. Which is what I thought I had until she got even skinnier.
The bit about a weak suck sounds like something. But every nurse and LC that had seen her said it looked good. I'll ask about that on Monday.
It's just difficult when we have appointments every day and people parading in and out of the house. Everyone else has held my baby more than I have.
DD1 never ate as much as her pedi said she needed to. She was only taking maybe 1-2 oz of pumped breastmilk per feeding at 1 week old. The most she ever drank at once was maybe 5 oz and she was on a bottle till she was a year old. She was a slow grower but healthy and consistent. We tried everyrhing to get her to eat more, too but nothing seemed to work. She also took a bottle every two hours until she was a year old so she was maybe more of a snacker anything.
1-2 per feeding is what we are getting in her. She seems content with it. I'm scared to force it.
My DD gets spitty after 2-2.5 oz with a bottle.
Regarding EPing, it is definitely more time consuming than BF long term. You are pumping and bottle feeding. I also didn't like that I missed out on snuggle time. However, for me BF was so painful and LO was never satisfied so EPing was the best choice for me and my family with DD1. I'm not sure how things will work this time, but no matter how things work out I'm going to try not to be hard on myself because an unhappy mommy is certainly not good for DD1 and DD2.
With pumping and BFing the LC consultant I saw recommended 15 minute pumping sessions so that's what I'm doing for now. If I switch to EPing I will probably increase to 20 minutes.
https://kellymom.com/bf/pumpingmoms/milkstorage/milkstorage/
For everyone doing weighed feedings, don't be too discouraged if they don't go as planned. They're really not the greatest way to tell how much milk LO is getting at every feeding:
Just like you are more hungry at some meals than others, and more hungry some days than others, LO's hunger level can vary from feeding to feeding, and thus how much milk he takes can vary from feeding to feeding. You're only going to find out how much milk was transferred at one specific feeding...
A weighed morning feeding might have a higher result than a weighed afternoon feeding, because your supply is highest and milk most abundant in the morning. More milk will often be transferred faster at earlier feedings too.
Fat content in milk varies from feeding to feeding, so LO sometimes will nurse less and take less milk at a feeding with higher fat content.
Anxiety can suppress a mother's milk ejection reflex, making a weighed feeding less productive because mom is nervous about the outcome.
Weighed feedings are a helpful tool in some situations and when done with a very accurate scale by an IBCLC. But I'll say again, don't be too discouraged if your weighed feeding doesn't go as planned!
(((Hugs))) to all the mamas struggling tonight!
So you might want to burp him when he unlatches on his own. Maybe you'll get a burp, maybe you won't.
Remember when you're supplementing that she is taking most of her total daily intake directly from the breast, so she doesn't need a 3oz bottle every 3 hours. Otherwise, there would be no reason for her to nurse. Maybe confirm with your pedi how many oz you should offer, and plan to save and freeze whatever else you've pumped.
Appointments might be unavoidable, but I would ask my DH to request no visitors for a week or two. People can drop off groceries or dinner or run errands for you, but this is your time to get to know baby, to recover from your birth, and to bond as a new family of three. Your baby will be available to hold for a long time yet, so no one needs to be showing up for visits right now. Have DH turn everyone away until you're rested and recovered and things are going well. This is his job.
Most mothers do experience some breast tenderness early on, and it usually disappears by the time your supply regulates, so between 4 and 6 weeks. With DS1, my breasts were tender only for the first couple weeks and then whenever I became engorged...usually during a growth spurt when he was nursing a lot more. DS2 will be 3 weeks old tomorrow and I am still experiencing some tenderness. Hopefully it will disappear sooner rather than later.
LO is officially only a day and a half old. At his 24 hour weight check he has lost 5% of his body weight. He seems to have a shallow latch, and I've often wondered if he is getting enough at each feed. I've been feeding him when he shows signs of hunger and letting him just hang out and do skin to skin when he's on the boob, but not eating. He's had great output in diapers. Since about 8 pm last night, he's had 4 pee diapers and 4 poop diapers. The nurses in the nursery said I should start pumping and feeding him what I pump after I feed him on each side. I've done it once, but he seemed to have an upset stomach afterwards.
From diaper outputs at his age, it seems like I'm feeding him enough. But the suggestions in the hospital make me think I'm not. Any advice?
Losing up to 10% of birth weight is common in the first few days. I would focus on nursing as often as you can (at least every 2 hours during the day and every 3 hours or less at night) and doing skin to skin when you are not nursing to encourage your milk to come in.
No need to pump. Follow @ss265's recs. Just nurse and snuggle.
Have you been supplementing with bottles? I would suggest holding off on any artificial nipples until BFing is going great! See if an LC can evaluate his latch and suggest some positions to help. Try to make sure he opens wide every time he latched by tickling his lips with your nipple. Good luck!