March 2015 Moms

**UO Thursday**

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  • E had no interest in any lovies until over a year. She is only allowed to have them at bedtime, nap time, in the car if she will be sleeping for a long ride..but she isn't obsessed with them, doesn't need to take them everywhere etc.

    I don't disagree about parents allowing anything long term that becomes an obsession of sorts (I hate seeing kids always always having their pacis), but, parents do what they have to do, so...while I might think and you might think that use of such things should be moderated, we don't know what situation those parents are in and why they make the decisions they make.
  • I can't think of a UO and apparently everyone else is struggling too!
  • I can't stand the "want/need/wear/read" gift list for Christmas. If you want to keep gift giving from getting out of control, just you know... don't buy so much.

    I can't really express WHY it bothers me so much, but it just irritates the heck out of me. We definitely do not go overboard at Christmas, we give P 3 gifts and a stocking and maybe one or two for each other. I don't know why limiting it to 3 is fine but the "guidelines" grate on me. I don't like Christmas lists either. I think I have issues with taking suggestions, haha. 

    *I'm talking about gifts from parents. Grandparents are crazy, they do what they want, haha.
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  • I'm not excited about Friends coming to Netflix. I watched the show when it was on and liked it. For years I would watch it in reruns, but lately I don't care about watching it. If I scroll past a channel with Friends on, I just keep on scrolling.








     


  • @FrecklesInside‌ that's good to hear, I have heard my fair share of parents in favor of the everyone getting awarded so I felt like it was more widespread but I'm glad to hear other people feel the way I do!
  • Carmar3 said:

    My UO's I don't like new age parenting. Letting the kids do things on their own is fine but I think it gets crazy. Un schooling, delayed potty training, no time outs... It all makes me crazy. I look back at how parents used the do things and we all turned out ok. I fear with all of the new ways of doing things we are raising a generation of entitled little turds. Whew, off my horse now, preparing myself for the shit storm that will follow :)

    My UA is that I agree with you 100%.
    My H thinks I am too tough on my SS. I think he sometimes needs it because he is a tough kid, and he's has a tough life thus far....ADHD, BM in and out of his life, ect
    I think just because you've had it tough, it doesn't give you the right to be a jerk and do whatever you want to do.
    H thinks my views will change once I have this baby, but I don't really think so.


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  • goofygoff said:
    Since Sex and the City was brought up, my incredibly lame UO only really applies to fans of the show.

    I liked the series in spite of Carrie, who I thought was a bratty, narcissistic asshole.  Her character is seriously a vile person.
    I love the show but I have to agree with what you said about Carrie, she's awful. My Sex and the City UO is that I always preferred Mr. Big over Aidan. 
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  • Carmar3 said:
    My UO's I don't like new age parenting. Letting the kids do things on their own is fine but I think it gets crazy. Un schooling, delayed potty training, no time outs... It all makes me crazy. I look back at how parents used the do things and we all turned out ok. I fear with all of the new ways of doing things we are raising a generation of entitled little turds. Whew, off my horse now, preparing myself for the shit storm that will follow :)
    Did we ALL though? Because I know quite a few idiots.
    I see this a lot at the community college. Entitled young adults who think if they show up to class they should pass and don't understand the importance of doing anything outside of the bare minimum.  
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  • Carmar3 said:
    My UO's I don't like new age parenting. Letting the kids do things on their own is fine but I think it gets crazy. Un schooling, delayed potty training, no time outs... It all makes me crazy. I look back at how parents used the do things and we all turned out ok. I fear with all of the new ways of doing things we are raising a generation of entitled little turds. Whew, off my horse now, preparing myself for the shit storm that will follow :)
    Did we ALL though? Because I know quite a few idiots.
    I see this a lot at the community college. Entitled young adults who think if they show up to class they should pass and don't understand the importance of doing anything outside of the bare minimum.  
    And this is the problem I have with schools that don't give zeros or failing grades. How in the hell is that preparing them for the real world?! They are in for a RUDE awakening when they get to college!
  • kcbizme said:
    Carmar3 said:
    My UO's I don't like new age parenting. Letting the kids do things on their own is fine but I think it gets crazy. Un schooling, delayed potty training, no time outs... It all makes me crazy. I look back at how parents used the do things and we all turned out ok. I fear with all of the new ways of doing things we are raising a generation of entitled little turds. Whew, off my horse now, preparing myself for the shit storm that will follow :)
    Did we ALL though? Because I know quite a few idiots.
    I see this a lot at the community college. Entitled young adults who think if they show up to class they should pass and don't understand the importance of doing anything outside of the bare minimum.  
    And this is the problem I have with schools that don't give zeros or failing grades. How in the hell is that preparing them for the real world?! They are in for a RUDE awakening when they get to college!
    Exactly! Or students who don't understand that college leads to them getting a job. So they go to class and go home and do absolutely no career prep or networking along the way and then don't understand why they can't get a job. 
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  • Another UO I don't understand having huge bday parties every year for your kids. The first one I totally get, it is a milestone. But after that it's a little ridiculous because the kids aren't even paying attention half the time and it kind of seems more for the parents and being gift-grabby.
    I agree with this. We had a pool party this year at one of the local community pools. We labeled it "Under the Sea" themed b/c she loves The Little Mermaid, but we did not ask people to bring gifts (they did anyway) and we just wanted her to have some little kids to play with and have everyone there to eat cake and have fun. All-in-all there were maybe 10 kids there between the ages of 1 & 6 and all the adults got to have fun too because POOL. But the over-the-top extravagant parties are ridiculous.
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    kcbizme said:






    Carmar3 said:

    My UO's I don't like new age parenting. Letting the kids do things on their own is fine but I think it gets crazy. Un schooling, delayed potty training, no time outs... It all makes me crazy. I look back at how parents used the do things and we all turned out ok. I fear with all of the new ways of doing things we are raising a generation of entitled little turds. Whew, off my horse now, preparing myself for the shit storm that will follow :)

    Did we ALL though? Because I know quite a few idiots.

    I see this a lot at the community college. Entitled young adults who think if they show up to class they should pass and don't understand the importance of doing anything outside of the bare minimum.  


    And this is the problem I have with schools that don't give zeros or failing grades. How in the hell is that preparing them for the real world?! They are in for a RUDE awakening when they get to college!


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    I went from teaching to being an evaluator, and had a coworker here get mad at me because I told her I gave a kid a 9 in band one six weeks. She was showing me how to pull grade data and saying she usually left out all the grades lower than a 10 because they were probably a fluke, so I told her my story. She was like, "well there's no way they can come back from that at semester." Which I totally understand. I had no pleasure in giving a kid a damn 9 in band. We had clear expectations, he didn't bring his instrument, he didn't show up to a single rehearsal, football game, or concert/contest. We called home multiple times, talked with him, and even set up carpooling with someone he lived close to in case he could not get a ride. I don't know... maybe a 9 sounds unreasonable, but our rubric showed exactly what he should get, and the administrators approved the rubric. I was annoyed at my coworker for being annoyed at me. She's never been a teacher, and I really don't think it does a kid any good to get a 60 for doing literally none of the aforementioned things. For the record, we failed him and one other kid... everyone else passed with flying colors.


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  • My UO is I hate Halloween. I hate the creepy decorations everywhere, esp the cobwebs! And I especially hate Halloween themed food! No I do not want a slice of that rat shaped cake- blech. But I will put up with all of it one day for this LO... Sigh.
  • The school I teach at does not allow social promotion. If a kid does not meet 4th grade standards, they do not go on to 5th grade. We've had MANY parents pull their kids because we have wanted to retain and parents thought they should go on.

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  • tinypug said:

    My UO is that I kind of feel like people who say they LOVE exercising are lying... Sure, it feels good when it's over, but during...? No.

    I like it when I'm in shape. Getting back into shape is misery. Blehh
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  • earthian said:

    UO. I hate oreos. Even more so though, I HATE dipping cookies in milk. Soggy cookies? Eww.

    Little floaters in my milk afterwards? EWW!

    I hate soggy cookies and pieces in milk so I take a bite of cookie and a sip of milk together...problem solved.
  • I have an unpopular opinion about youth sports. Please don't hate me but I don't like the whole "everyone gets a trophy" rule. I think this teaches kids that they don't have to try hard to do good at something in order to be awarded. What about kids who are genuinely doing their absolute best? They're being told that the kid in the back goofing off and not trying is just as good. I see this with my son's football team, half of the kids study the playbook, memorize the plays, show up for every single practice and put in their full efforts. And then some still don't know the plays, show up every once in a while and when they are there they are constantly talking, rolling in the grass and goofing off. I want my son to know that unless you try your best and are making strides to be your best you do not just get things handed to you. You need to earn them. And I want him to know If he does get a trophy or recognition of some kind it is because he has truely earned it and deserves it. My son works so hard at football and I see even his frustration in devoting such time and effort into something that he loves for others to not take it seriously and still be awarded. I know some people do not share my opinion, hence the UO, but hopefully this doesn't offend anyone.

    Not. So. Unpopular. Very popular, I think it's ridiculous everyone gets a trophy.
  • I love sex and the city, and SJP, but Carrie is my least fav character.
    Same with friends. I LOVE friends. But Rachel is the worst character.
    **I love Ross now that he doesn't love me. But now that he loves me again, I don't love him. Aww Joey loves me, but I would never, until he's over me, now I want Joey** and so on.

    Another UO is that I don't like the Big Bang theory. I've tried, I just can't get into it.
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  • Lorabean said:
    My UO is I hate Halloween. I hate the creepy decorations everywhere, esp the cobwebs! And I especially hate Halloween themed food! No I do not want a slice of that rat shaped cake- blech. But I will put up with all of it one day for this LO... Sigh.
    So glad I'm not alone!  When I was a kid, very few houses did much decorating beyond carving a pumpkin and now it's like Party City exploded on everyone's lawn. 
    I do like the candy, though.  
  • Another UO I don't understand having huge bday parties every year for your kids. The first one I totally get, it is a milestone. But after that it's a little ridiculous because the kids aren't even paying attention half the time and it kind of seems more for the parents and being gift-grabby.
    I agree with this one especially (although so far I agree with most of the UOs on Page 1...).  But I'm not even a fan of throwing a big to-do for the first birthday.  A one year old has no concept that it's his birthday and most of the invites go to friends of the parents.  Clearly it's a party for the parents to celebrate what?  Making it a year without killing your kid?  Actually, if I got an invite to a party to celebrate THAT specifically I'd totally go!  

    For my son I didn't even want to do anything.  We were busy with high season at work and I was early in the first tri and exhausted.  My parents insisted so we had a small thing, but my son didn't care.  He didn't get the whole present thing so my nephew opened all of them for him.  He loved the cake (his first taste of processed sugar, yum!), but otherwise it was any other day for him. 

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  • lib1974 said:

    I have an unpopular opinion about youth sports. Please don't hate me but I don't like the whole "everyone gets a trophy" rule. I think this teaches kids that they don't have to try hard to do good at something in order to be awarded. What about kids who are genuinely doing their absolute best? They're being told that the kid in the back goofing off and not trying is just as good. I see this with my son's football team, half of the kids study the playbook, memorize the plays, show up for every single practice and put in their full efforts. And then some still don't know the plays, show up every once in a while and when they are there they are constantly talking, rolling in the grass and goofing off. I want my son to know that unless you try your best and are making strides to be your best you do not just get things handed to you. You need to earn them. And I want him to know If he does get a trophy or recognition of some kind it is because he has truely earned it and deserves it. My son works so hard at football and I see even his frustration in devoting such time and effort into something that he loves for others to not take it seriously and still be awarded. I know some people do not share my opinion, hence the UO, but hopefully this doesn't offend anyone.

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  • JCWhitey said:
    Another UO I don't understand having huge bday parties every year for your kids. The first one I totally get, it is a milestone. But after that it's a little ridiculous because the kids aren't even paying attention half the time and it kind of seems more for the parents and being gift-grabby.
    I agree with this one especially (although so far I agree with most of the UOs on Page 1...).  But I'm not even a fan of throwing a big to-do for the first birthday.  A one year old has no concept that it's his birthday and most of the invites go to friends of the parents.  Clearly it's a party for the parents to celebrate what?  Making it a year without killing your kid?  Actually, if I got an invite to a party to celebrate THAT specifically I'd totally go!  

    For my son I didn't even want to do anything.  We were busy with high season at work and I was early in the first tri and exhausted.  My parents insisted so we had a small thing, but my son didn't care.  He didn't get the whole present thing so my nephew opened all of them for him.  He loved the cake (his first taste of processed sugar, yum!), but otherwise it was any other day for him. 
    We did a 1st birthday party, simply for the tradition of her smashing the cake. It was the cutest thing ever! She actually sat on the cake at one point. We only invited immediate family.

    This year we did the pool party for her 2nd birthday and she knew that it was her birthday. It was fun.
  • jennypm said:
    I'll add on to the ridiculousness of everyone getting a trophy. In our lacrosse and football leagues, they have mercy rules. In football, the other team cannot lead by more than 32 points and, if they do, they're fined about $750-$1000 (not sure of the amount, but that is what football moms have told me). I saw this, firsthand at one of the games my girls were cheering for. Our team was winning, we were up by about 30 points, got down to the 10 yard line ready to score again and had to take a knee and turnover the ball on the 4th down. 

    In Lacrosse (my girls do play) they can't lead by more than 7 points (again, I think that's the number) and then, if they do, all kinds of other rules go into place about how many times they have to pass. If the other team scores, there's no match up to get the ball, the losing team automatically just gets the ball back. 

    I hate mercy rules. I've seen teams in the lead before, the mercy rules go into effect and the winning team has to back off. The kids lose their momentum and lose. 
    I like mercy rules when it causes the game to speed up because there's no chance the other team could catch up.  Here our mercy rule in hockey is that if you are up by 7 the clock doesn't stop.  The winning team can score as many more points as possible, but it just sort of puts the other team out of their misery sooner.  I think it's ridiculous that there's a points rule.  My softball team sucked and we constantly lost by 10+ points, but we also had an awesome time.  We tried out hardest, we just weren't any good, but had fun trying.  At the end of the season the coaches three year old made us all "Well, You Tried!" paper ribbons that was honestly better than a trophy in that case.  Even at 10 I would've known a trophy was pure BS.

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  • jennypm said:

    @JCWhitley I can understand letting the clock run as a mercy rule of sorts and wouldn't have as big of a beef with that. My issue is, basically telling these kids that, yes, you're good, but don't be too good because we don't want to hurt the other teams feelings. We've had our ass beat before and, yes, it sucks, but that's part of life. I tell my girls all the time that life isn't fair and you don't win everything. As long as you tried your hardest and had fun, that's what counts!

    There was a school around here that was beat in football 91-0 last year (the other team is a fantastic, state champion type of team) and they made the news because one parent accused the coach of the winning team of bullying. Bullying?!? They didn't take timeouts, they didn't snap the ball very often, they put in their third string team. There's only so much you can do. The winning team got put in this district with mostly not very good competition, which is sort of a travesty because they were looking ahead to playoffs when they would be playing real competition. It would be unfair to tell their team to kneel or to give up in practically every game of the regular season.
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  • @JCWhitley I can understand letting the clock run as a mercy rule of sorts and wouldn't have as big of a beef with that. My issue is, basically telling these kids that, yes, you're good, but don't be too good because we don't want to hurt the other teams feelings. We've had our ass beat before and, yes, it sucks, but that's part of life. I tell my girls all the time that life isn't fair and you don't win everything. As long as you tried your hardest and had fun, that's what counts!
    There was a school around here that was beat in football 91-0 last year (the other team is a fantastic, state champion type of team) and they made the news because one parent accused the coach of the winning team of bullying. Bullying?!? They didn't take timeouts, they didn't snap the ball very often, they put in their third string team. There's only so much you can do. The winning team got put in this district with mostly not very good competition, which is sort of a travesty because they were looking ahead to playoffs when they would be playing real competition. It would be unfair to tell their team to kneel or to give up in practically every game of the regular season.
    When I was in HS our football team was decent but the team the next town up was crazy incredible (which was insane since the town is only 1,200 people!).  They won state three years in a row and we kept playing them for our Homecoming Game.  And every year we'd all be standing there saying "Why do we keep putting homecoming on a day we play this team!?!  They're too good for us!".  These days I feel like people would say something stupid like "They aren't being fair!  It's our homecoming game they should at least let us score a few times!".  Bah, it bugs me.

    I'm very happy that where I live (which is actually the town with the crazy good football team) only has competitive sports with only time mercy rules.  Even the five year olds keep score and has winners and losers.  They do call some games if one team gets too far ahead with no chance of catching up, but that's usually because it's cold and they are just looking for a reason to end games!

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