Any advice?

MeganPobega · October 2014

Sorry in advance for the length. My SO and I have been together only a short time. Six-ish months or so. I am almost 16 weeks pregnant with my second child, his first. Anyways, since I've become pregnant I've noticed a lot of changes in him. Maybe they were just things he hid well and decided not to care anymore. He has a pretty bad temper. He loses his patience, quite often, and yells or breaks things. He does this in front of my three year old daughter. It makes my blood boil, to say the least. But when he gets like that, I calmly ask him over and over again to go outside and cool down. My daughter gets scared, which I don't blame her. It's always over something small too. His last outburst was because my daughter spilled her plate during dinner. Which I cleaned up right away and he yelled. She is a toddler. She makes messes. It's not the end of the world. He also has a drinking problem. He has gotten better but when he isn't drinking, he is downright nasty. He never wants to spend anytime with my daughter or I. But claims to love spending time with us. That's a lie. He is constantly buried in his phone. It is to the point where he gets off work (at 4pm) and eats dinner, then plays on his phone and is in bed by 7pm. It really hurts my feelings. I've suggested he go to anger management and AA but he refuses. So I suggested couples counseling, which to my surprise he said he would do. He always talks about how we are getting married. But honestly? I have no interest in marrying this man. He has very little interest in this baby. I try to involve him with every thing that goes on. No luck. I grabbed his hand last night to feel the baby. His response? Cool and walked away. It was the first time, by the way. I suffer from depression. Mainly seasonal. Which he believes is just me hating my life. Which isn't the case. I'm finding it hard to be happy with a guy like this. He offers no support, no compassion, no kind words, no affection, nothing. I just feel alone when he is next to me. We don't even talk to each other anymore, unless he is asking what I'm making for dinner. I know people will just tell me to leave if I'm unhappy but I really want this to work. I'm trying so hard but I feel like I've hit a brick wall. Anyone else go through this? Did it get better? If so, how did you do it.

colleen4019 · October 2014

No Advice- but my thoughts are with you. Good luck figuring it out. Counseling seems like a good first step. Do you live together? I would say maybe try living apart.

MeganPobega · October 2014

He just moved in a month ago. Financially, it's easier. I just feel as if I have a teenage roommate though. He is almost 28. I'm 23. I know guys don't exactly always grow up right away but we don't have all the time in the world for him to change his ways.

selena61307 · October 2014

Please don't use his age as an excuse. My husband is 28. He stepped up and is a father to my oldest dd and our younger babe. I left my ex because he was a terrible terrible father. At the end of the day it us better to struggle for money and have a stable loving home for your dd and baby then to have them in a house filed with screaming and hate. Kids pick up on so much you aren't hiding anything.

MeganPobega · October 2014

Yeah, I was afraid of that. Couples counseling is the last thing I'm trying. If it doesn't work after a couple months, I plan to leave. Well have him leave. He lives in my house. I can do this alone. I just really don't want too.... :'(

stine28 · October 2014

You have received great advice here. One extra thing I'd like to point out is that if you let him live with you for months while you try counselling, he will have become much more comfortable in your home and it will be harder to get him to leave. At this point he's just barely moved in.

I would ask him to move out now, try counselling if you want, but leave the co-dependent living on hold while you see where this goes.

All the things you describe happening so soon after he moves in is a very bad sign and you need to start preparing for this to not work out.

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MeganPobega · October 2014

I'm prepared to do it alone. I have been with my daughter since birth. I just hate that both of my children will have bad fathers. And it's my fault for choosing poorly. It breaks my heart. I do want out but I need to find a job first. That's my main issue. He works because he wanted to be the "man". He isn't living up to it though. I hate not working, by the way. I tried it to please him. He makes great money but is horrible with it. I try to budget, but with his impulsive spending, it's getting to be damn near impossible.

pregarella · October 2014

I think you know what you need to do, and that is to leave him. Your daughter and, and very soon to be, your kids have to come first.

jerzeemomma · October 2014

Don't worry about your choices in the fathers of your two kids. You being a great mom and taking care of them will make up for it. They are better off to be surrounded by your love in a caring environment than to have that kind of negativity in their lives. I say just do it - have him move out and see if he earns his way back into your homes and lives through counseling. But be prepared to move on. You got this, girl!

peeppeeppeep · October 2014

Agree with previous posters - get out now. I'm so sorry this is your situation, but stay strong. I wish you all the best.

stepherly · October 2014

I'm sorry you're going through this.

I have to agree with PPs. If you've been together only a few months and he's already acting this way you should get him out of your life. Your daughter is already afraid of him...I would be afraid of him hurting her, you, or the new LO.

If you decide to do counseling, I completely agree with @stine28‌. Don't continue to have him live with you while going through counseling.

skatergrl · October 2014

I agree with everything that has already been said. He hasn't changed suddenly. This is who he is. And it's probably not going to get better. In the words of Dr. Phil, children would rather come from a "broken" home than live in one. Ask him to leave and stand up for your kids. I'm so sorry you're going through this.

ngolimento · October 2014

Do NOT stay with this man. Your toddler doesn't deserve to be emotionally and verbally abused by this POS. Have you stopped and thought what you are teaching her? She will use her experiences with him to build the foundations of how her own future relationships will go.

Do you want her to think being screamed at for nothing by a man is normal?

Do you want her to think being ignored and treated coldly by a man is normal?

No? Leave like your ass is on fire. If you are deeply lucky, she will retain no memory of this time in her life. Her happiness and future is in your hands. Don't let her down for a dumb useless man.

MeganPobega · October 2014

Thank you ladies for all the advice. I let him live here because he had no where to go and we were broken up at the time. He begged, pleaded, and cried for me to take him back. I said I would if you would take anger management and control your drinking. None of that has happened. So kicking him out, will leave him homeless. Which is why he is here. My heart is to big to do that to him or anyone. I've been trying to spend as much time apart as possible. Maybe he will miss us and try to be a decent guy. But I guess time and counseling will tell.

MeganPobega · October 2014

As much as kicking him out appeals to me, I need to find a job first. I won't be able to pay my bills and my daughter and I will lose our house. So until I'm gainfully employed, I unfortunately have to stick it out. And just spend more time outside my home and return once he is in bed. Which sucks that I can't be in my own home but he doesn't have a vehicle and he isn't taking mine. He has no license because he has 3 DUIs. So I take him to and from work and everywhere else he needs to go. Which is really annoying. He was a great guy before I got pregnant. I just think he is under this impression I'm trapped and he can talk to me and treat me however he likes. Which I've reminded him several times, I will not hesitate to leave him once I'm stable. I didn't stay with my daughters father because he is a pathetic dead beat. I am not afraid to leave. It just sucks I have to make this decision again.

MeganPobega · October 2014

Thank you. I am hardly showing at four months, so I'm hoping it won't be an issue and my belly doesn't pop out until I find a job lol. I'm only 100ish pounds and 5 feet tall (on a good day). So hopefully baby will stay snug for a little bit longer!

skatergrl · October 2014

MeganPobega said:

As much as kicking him out appeals to me, I need to find a job first. I won't be able to pay my bills and my daughter and I will lose our house. So until I'm gainfully employed, I unfortunately have to stick it out. And just spend more time outside my home and return once he is in bed. Which sucks that I can't be in my own home but he doesn't have a vehicle and he isn't taking mine. He has no license because he has 3 DUIs. So I take him to and from work and everywhere else he needs to go. Which is really annoying. He was a great guy before I got pregnant. I just think he is under this impression I'm trapped and he can talk to me and treat me however he likes. Which I've reminded him several times, I will not hesitate to leave him once I'm stable. I didn't stay with my daughters father because he is a pathetic dead beat. I am not afraid to leave. It just sucks I have to make this decision again.

I truly do sympathize with you and can't imagine what you're going through but your daughter's well being and safety needs to come first. I would live under a bridge before I would let a man treat myself or my child like that. There are places to go for help if you were to lose your home. Please be a hero for your daughter. Again, he was not a great man before this happened. You've only known him for 6 months. Anyone can put on an "act" in the beginning. People don't suddenly start behaving like this. Kick him out and don't worry about him anymore. You and your daughter are in my thoughts and prayers through this. Best wishes!!!

MeganPobega · October 2014

No matter what I say, I'm wrong in his eyes. It's my hormones. It never has to do with him being a lunatic. I can't win. He needs to do some soul searching. I'm hoping a middle person can help us resolve why he is so angry all the time.

skatergrl · October 2014

rebmit32 said:

I'm a little late on this, but just wanted to throw in my two cents. I grew up with a dad who had a very, very short fuse. I've seen him literally throw hammers at people who work for him. My dad is 52. He hasn't changed. Chances are that you SO won't change either. I know your circumstances sound dire in regards to finances, but you need to RUN in the opposite direction. Do not let him stay in your home. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior (sorry, I got that from Dr. Phil) and my mom always told me that a leopard doesn't change its spots. You need to protect yourself and your children. His behavior could easily escalate into physical abuse. (He is already mentally and emotionally abusing you both in my opinion). As far as money goes, ask for help from family or friends if you can, maybe find some sort of temporary assistance for food and shelter if you must, and continue searching for jobs! You can do it!! You'd rather be broke and hungry than have yourself, your child, or baby injured, right?? Hang in there! I'll be praying for you to have strength to do this!!

Amen!

071115 · October 2014

Guys don't change no matter how hard you want them to. If you really want to try make it work. Try the counselling. If that doesn't help you have to make the choice to stay or to go.
I would leave but that's just me.

Bostonchelle · October 2014

I would consider going and talking to someone on your own in addition to or instead of couples counseling. I have worked with domestic violence victims for my entire career and all that you have said is very concerning for both you and your children. You need to be sure that you and your children are in a safe situation.

You mentioned that you couldn't afford your house on your own- perhaps there are other alternatives- staying with family or downsizing.

The things you have mentioned as issues are not things that will change if he doesn't see them/want them to change. With 3 OUIs at 28 he doesn't seem like he is a person who is likely open to seeing those faults and changing them.

I'm very sorry you are going through this. The issues you have mentioned-
drinking, anger etc. are his issues and you should not see them as a reflection of you (pregnancy hormones or not!) or your children. You all deserve to be in a safer and more loving environment. Best of luck.

drudolph11 · October 2014

Sorry I know this might be a little late. My thoughts and prayers are with you. My question to you @MeganPobega‌ is if you were to leave do you have a safe place for you and DD and this LO to go? im around your age (24) and my ex was like this in that he has a super super short temper and his solution to EVERYTHING was to pick something up and throw it across the room and break it. I do not have a child, yet, and wasn't pregnant with him so it was just me that I had to worry about therefore I stayed, much much longer then I should have. He put me in the hospital and I STILL went back. Yup. As far as AA goes. I have addiction issues that I have been dealing with since I was a teenager so as far as support groups such as AA i can tell you that they are a wonderful wonderful thing for those who want it. If he doesn't want it or doesn't think he has a drinking problem then it's much more of a struggle having said that it is not totally hopeless. I have seen many people come into the rooms, some by force (court issues and what not) who don't think they should be there or don't want to be there and end up becoming incredibly successful and wonderful members. I truly think the drinking has a lot to do with his anger. Im no expert or counselor and don't claim to be only going off what you said and my own personal experience. I do have a lot of experience regarding addiction issues only because I have been there. There really is a lot to say and I don't want to write a novel here on the thread but I do hope you find some peace and happiness within your situation and if you EVER want to talk. I mean like in depth please please don't hesitate to PM me. I really do have a lot of good knowledge based on what I was taught and what has helped me. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

jpavenski · October 2014

I honestly don't think people like this ever change. You're in a tough spot, I would say get everything together financially and then kick him out before he gets too comfy. The part about loosing his temper with your daughter concerns me the most. Your kids will def be better off without this person in your life & it sounds like you are strong & can handle this alone. Good luck to you & your daughter.

MeganPobega · October 2014

My family lives 900 miles away, unfortunately. I packed up and left my hometown 18 months ago. So it's just us. We have a tiny town home and it's one bedroom, so it's about as small as it can get. I do receive government assistance, finally. But they don't cover rent. I hate receiving it. I want off of it but I need it now, more than ever. I know his drinking is the cause of his anger but I don't think he will stop. He slows down but still drinks. I appreciate the advice so much. I just really needed outside opinions to help me decide. Of course my family wants me to leave, but I don't have a way to pay rent. So I feel stuck. I just wish he would open his eyes. And see what he has in front if him. Kids are absolutely amazing and gods greatest blessing. I wish he felt as strongly about family as me. But like most of you said, a tiger doesn't change over night. Maybe leaving will open his eyes to change. Who knows.

kellbell1982 · October 2014

MeganPobega said:
My family lives 900 miles away, unfortunately. I packed up and left my hometown 18 months ago. So it's just us. We have a tiny town home and it's one bedroom, so it's about as small as it can get. I do receive government assistance, finally. But they don't cover rent. I hate receiving it. I want off of it but I need it now, more than ever. I know his drinking is the cause of his anger but I don't think he will stop. He slows down but still drinks. I appreciate the advice so much. I just really needed outside opinions to help me decide. Of course my family wants me to leave, but I don't have a way to pay rent. So I feel stuck. I just wish he would open his eyes. And see what he has in front if him. Kids are absolutely amazing and gods greatest blessing. I wish he felt as strongly about family as me. But like most of you said, a tiger doesn't change over night. Maybe leaving will open his eyes to change. Who knows.

Don't be ashamed to be on government assistance. Everyone falls on hard times here and there

lisap0924 · October 2014

I'm sorry you are dealing with this. I once had a boyfriend like this and it did not end well. I did not have kids at the time and I was not pregnant but it was still bad.
Think of your daughter. Do you want her to grow up thinking this behavior is normal and ok? Do you want her to be with a man like this?
You said you don't want to marry him, so why try to work it out?
He already scares your daughter. Neither of you deserve this. Get out now before he hurts you or your daughter.

Poppy1986 · October 2014

Get rid of him! I ended a relationship similar to the one you're describing a little over a year ago and couldn't be happier with my decision! Granted I don't have children and he wasn't living with me, but it was still difficult. Since then I met an amazing man and we are expecting our first baby together. He treats me right, is mature, and will be an excellent father. If you end things now, you're lucky. You're smart to recognize warning signs (ie drinking and temper and disinterest in the baby) that will may indicate more severe problems in the future. Good luck! Rely on your friends and family for support and have faith in your decision and your future for you and your children. Remember you're strong and deserving of the best!!

MeganPobega · October 2014

I really appreciate everyone's kind words! They mean a lot! Him and I actually sat and had a heart to heart about everything, and I think he is beginning to open his eyes. He seemed to really listen and understand my fears and feelings about things. So maybe we are having a small break through? We had a great day today and he was very loving and in tune with my daughter today. Hopefully this keeps up. Because this is the last time I'm having this talk with him. I know he can't change over night, nor do I expect that. I just want to be able to see him trying to change. We shall see!

wendyld · October 2014

MeganPobega said:

Sorry in advance for the length. My SO and I have been together only a short time. Six-ish months or so. I am almost 16 weeks pregnant with my second child, his first. Anyways, since I've become pregnant I've noticed a lot of changes in him. Maybe they were just things he hid well and decided not to care anymore. He has a pretty bad temper. He loses his patience, quite often, and yells or breaks things. He does this in front of my three year old daughter. It makes my blood boil, to say the least. But when he gets like that, I calmly ask him over and over again to go outside and cool down. My daughter gets scared, which I don't blame her. It's always over something small too. His last outburst was because my daughter spilled her plate during dinner. Which I cleaned up right away and he yelled. She is a toddler. She makes messes. It's not the end of the world. He also has a drinking problem. He has gotten better but when he isn't drinking, he is downright nasty. He never wants to spend anytime with my daughter or I. But claims to love spending time with us. That's a lie. He is constantly buried in his phone. It is to the point where he gets off work (at 4pm) and eats dinner, then plays on his phone and is in bed by 7pm. It really hurts my feelings. I've suggested he go to anger management and AA but he refuses. So I suggested couples counseling, which to my surprise he said he would do. He always talks about how we are getting married. But honestly? I have no interest in marrying this man. He has very little interest in this baby. I try to involve him with every thing that goes on. No luck. I grabbed his hand last night to feel the baby. His response? Cool and walked away. It was the first time, by the way. I suffer from depression. Mainly seasonal. Which he believes is just me hating my life. Which isn't the case. I'm finding it hard to be happy with a guy like this. He offers no support, no compassion, no kind words, no affection, nothing. I just feel alone when he is next to me. We don't even talk to each other anymore, unless he is asking what I'm making for dinner. I know people will just tell me to leave if I'm unhappy but I really want this to work. I'm trying so hard but I feel like I've hit a brick wall. Anyone else go through this? Did it get better? If so, how did you do it.

WHY would you want to make this work? What redeeming quality is there? You have no interest in a permanent relationship. He's horrible to your daughter, he doesn't want to be around you or her. He shows zero interest in his child as well. This guy brings absolutely nothing positive to the table.

::heads back to read the rest of this shitshow::

wendyld · October 2014

MeganPobega said:

I'm prepared to do it alone. I have been with my daughter since birth. I just hate that both of my children will have bad fathers. And it's my fault for choosing poorly. It breaks my heart. I do want out but I need to find a job first. That's my main issue. He works because he wanted to be the "man". He isn't living up to it though. I hate not working, by the way. I tried it to please him. He makes great money but is horrible with it. I try to budget, but with his impulsive spending, it's getting to be damn near impossible.

Most abusers try to isolate their victims to ensure that they don't have a support system oustide of the abuser. Quit playing around with talk of counseling and heart to hearts. The fact that you stay with this guy doesn't change the fact that he's a bad person and a bad father.

MeganPobega · October 2014

I just have faith in people. I believe people can change if they truly want to. My father was a very abusive man. He beat the shit out of me when I was 6 weeks pregnant with my daughter. He has since seen the light and is a wonderful man. Our relationship is the best it ever has been. And he is almost 50. I'm just trying to take it day by day and not stress so much. He says he wants to change and I believe he does. He just needs help. Help that was never available to him. If he is genuine, I believe he can do it. I just need to keep my faith. But if he acts crazy, just once more, he is out. He knows this is his last chance.

wendyld · October 2014

MeganPobega said:

My family lives 900 miles away, unfortunately. I packed up and left my hometown 18 months ago. So it's just us. We have a tiny town home and it's one bedroom, so it's about as small as it can get. I do receive government assistance, finally. But they don't cover rent. I hate receiving it. I want off of it but I need it now, more than ever. I know his drinking is the cause of his anger but I don't think he will stop. He slows down but still drinks. I appreciate the advice so much. I just really needed outside opinions to help me decide. Of course my family wants me to leave, but I don't have a way to pay rent. So I feel stuck. I just wish he would open his eyes. And see what he has in front if him. Kids are absolutely amazing and gods greatest blessing. I wish he felt as strongly about family as me. But like most of you said, a tiger doesn't change over night. Maybe leaving will open his eyes to change. Who knows

You have no job and your child isn't old enough for grade school. It sounds like you don't have any unseverable ties to the area you are in now. Your family wants you to leave. Move home. You get away from this guy and gain a support system all in one step. I'm willing to bed that same family will help you get on your feet.

janda426 · October 2014

MeganPobega said:

I really appreciate everyone's kind words! They mean a lot! Him and I actually sat and had a heart to heart about everything, and I think he is beginning to open his eyes. He seemed to really listen and understand my fears and feelings about things. So maybe we are having a small break through? We had a great day today and he was very loving and in tune with my daughter today. Hopefully this keeps up. Because this is the last time I'm having this talk with him. I know he can't change over night, nor do I expect that. I just want to be able to see him trying to change. We shall see!

I'm so sick of seeing this as the end result from women who come on here needing advice at a last resort in their emotionally abusive relationships. He's not going to change. There's no "we shall see!" With a man who's already been emotionally and mentally abusive to you and your daughter. The moment your innocent daughter is involved you are required to do right by her and get the hell out of town. Go back to your family. Or don't and get a job where you're at. Do something. Don't think one god damn conversation is going to change YEARS of past behavior in someone.

crunchymamaof2 · October 2014

janda426 said:

MeganPobega said:

I really appreciate everyone's kind words! They mean a lot! Him and I actually sat and had a heart to heart about everything, and I think he is beginning to open his eyes. He seemed to really listen and understand my fears and feelings about things. So maybe we are having a small break through? We had a great day today and he was very loving and in tune with my daughter today. Hopefully this keeps up. Because this is the last time I'm having this talk with him. I know he can't change over night, nor do I expect that. I just want to be able to see him trying to change. We shall see!

I'm so sick of seeing this as the end result from women who come on here needing advice at a last resort in their emotionally abusive relationships. He's not going to change. There's no "we shall see!" With a man who's already been emotionally and mentally abusive to you and your daughter. The moment your innocent daughter is involved you are required to do right by her and get the hell out of town. Go back to your family. Or don't and get a job where you're at. Do something. Don't think one god damn conversation is going to change YEARS of past behavior in someone.

This. He knows how to manipulate you. He's playing you. He'll act sweet and caring just long enough for you to trust him and then he'll go right back to his old ways. I totally get having faith in people, I do. I made a lot of mistakes and have turned my life around. But I did it for ME not for someone else. This guy is scaring your daughter. That should be your number 1 concern. Please listen to @wendyld and buy a one way ticket to your family and never look back.

TwinsCitiesMomma · October 2014

Megan-

Imagine that your best friend wrote this thread and it's follow up "We shall see" post. Would you tell her it's a good idea to stay in an obviously abusive relationship, especially with young children involved? I feel really sorry for you that you can't see what the rest of us see. You need to move back home now! Pack up your things, borrow money from your family to buy a plane ticket and go home. If your family is so concerned, I really hope that you have the support to stay with them while you look for a job. Even if you have a couple of part-time jobs for now, it is better than staying in a toxic relationship that is clearly going to get worse. Don't think about have to "lose" another baby daddy- that is not important. What is important is that you get yourself and your daughter out of this situation at all costs.

I absolutely do not mean to be insensitive in any way but if you decide that you want to continue things with your BF, please do not post on here. You will not get any support the next time he lashes out and it will just anger everyone that you continue to keep yourself and your kids in an abusive environment.

My sincere good luck to you. You are stronger than you think and you don't need him in your life.

coleybug13 · October 2014

I don't normally share this kind of thing but if it can somehow help I will, I know what you're going through because I've been there. My son's biological father used to physically abuse me when I was pregnant and after my son was born. He started off seemingly nice, always brought me flowers taking me out to nice dinners etc. Then when I became pregnant everything changed. He was so angry I was pregnant he tried to hit me in the stomach with a baseball bat. I moved in time for him to miss my stomach even though he still got my leg. He would follow me every where I went. To the store to daycare anywhere just to make sure he had an eye on me. He didn't allow me to work so I had to rely on him for money which was just another way of controlling. I could sit here and bore you with all of the abuse but the bottom line is they don't change. I finally got brave enough to leave and call the police. He was arrested and held on $250,000 bail. We had a restraining order and were safe for a few Years. Then he found us and kidnapped my son. He left the state and hid him in a closet for a week before the police could find him. He still harasses me 9 years later. People like this do not change and I wholeheartedly believe if I didn't leave when I did he would have killed us both. It hurts me to hear you are dealing with this and even though it is so hard to move away or make big changes you need to for your safety and your daughters. Please recognize your strength and use it to get to safety. If you ever want to talk more please don't hesitate.

crunchymamaof2 · October 2014

@coleybug13‌ I am so sorry you have to deal with all that

jpavenski · October 2014

coleybug13 said:
I don't normally share this kind of thing but if it can somehow help I will, I know what you're going through because I've been there. My son's biological father used to physically abuse me when I was pregnant and after my son was born. He started off seemingly nice, always brought me flowers taking me out to nice dinners etc. Then when I became pregnant everything changed. He was so angry I was pregnant he tried to hit me in the stomach with a baseball bat. I moved in time for him to miss my stomach even though he still got my leg. He would follow me every where I went. To the store to daycare anywhere just to make sure he had an eye on me. He didn't allow me to work so I had to rely on him for money which was just another way of controlling. I could sit here and bore you with all of the abuse but the bottom line is they don't change. I finally got brave enough to leave and call the police. He was arrested and held on $250,000 bail. We had a restraining order and were safe for a few Years. Then he found us and kidnapped my son. He left the state and hid him in a closet for a week before the police could find him. He still harasses me 9 years later. People like this do not change and I wholeheartedly believe if I didn't leave when I did he would have killed us both. It hurts me to hear you are dealing with this and even though it is so hard to move away or make big changes you need to for your safety and your daughters. Please recognize your strength and use it to get to safety. If you ever want to talk more please don't hesitate.

Wow, what a scary story. I'm so glad you got out of that situation & that you & your son are ok. I think it def helps other women out there to hear stories like this!

coleybug13 · October 2014

@jpavenski‌ and @crunchymamaof2 ‌ thank you both. It sucks but I'm thankful were both ok and it has made me a much stronger person. I hope that it does help other women have the courage to get up and leave cause it is really hard but they can do it.

coleybug13 · October 2014

Ps. Idk why there are quotes around @crunchymamaof2 I didn't mean to do that

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