May 2013 Moms

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This guy fessed up, anyone else care to spill?

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  • I automatically assume if you have fraternal twins, you did fertility treatments. And if you say you didn't, I'm skeptical.

    I have no idea why I think that, because I know how stupid it is.
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    DX: PCOS/Recurrent losses/MTHFR mutation (compound hetero)
    5 hysteroscopies/2 surgical
    3 Inject IUIs = 2 m/c's and 1 BFN
    IVF #1= BFP. m/c at 7w6d. Needed 2 D&C's and scar tissue removal. Mild OHSS
    IVF #2 = BFP. Severe OHSS. 4 Drainings. TWINS!
  • beaubecca said:



    I automatically assume if you have fraternal twins, you did fertility treatments. And if you say you didn't, I'm skeptical.

    I have no idea why I think that, because I know how stupid it is.

    Same here! But I think we assume that because a) we both went through infertility treatments, and b) it is still pretty rare to have twins that weren't a result of treatments so we're just betting on the odds, right??


    That's what I'm going with lol.

    The chance of dropping 2 eggs at once, both fertilizing, and both implanting are just not high enough for the amount of fraternal twins out there lol.

    But like I said, I dont really care how you get your baby, its just something I notice myself doing.
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    DX: PCOS/Recurrent losses/MTHFR mutation (compound hetero)
    5 hysteroscopies/2 surgical
    3 Inject IUIs = 2 m/c's and 1 BFN
    IVF #1= BFP. m/c at 7w6d. Needed 2 D&C's and scar tissue removal. Mild OHSS
    IVF #2 = BFP. Severe OHSS. 4 Drainings. TWINS!
  • maymomNY said:

    beaubecca said:

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    I automatically assume if you have fraternal twins, you did fertility treatments. And if you say you didn't, I'm skeptical.

    I have no idea why I think that, because I know how stupid it is.

    Same here! But I think we assume that because a) we both went through infertility treatments, and b) it is still pretty rare to have twins that weren't a result of treatments so we're just betting on the odds, right??
    One of the reasons I'm nervous about getting ku again is because twins run in my family. My dad is a twin. His twin has twins. There are others in my family as well. I was 32 when I had g and I've heard the later you start, the higher the chance!


    Are the twins in your dad's family fraternal or identical? Only fraternal is hereditary. But you probably know that.

    I tend to assume the same thing, @Blueyed228‌, unless the mom is overweight or older. Dumb, I know.
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  • edited September 2014
    maymomNY said:
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    I automatically assume if you have fraternal twins, you did fertility treatments. And if you say you didn't, I'm skeptical. I have no idea why I think that, because I know how stupid it is.
    Same here! But I think we assume that because a) we both went through infertility treatments, and b) it is still pretty rare to have twins that weren't a result of treatments so we're just betting on the odds, right??
    One of the reasons I'm nervous about getting ku again is because twins run in my family. My dad is a twin. His twin has twins. There are others in my family as well. I was 32 when I had g and I've heard the later you start, the higher the chance!
    You should be good... don't twins run on the mom's side ? Hyper ovulation is something that's passed down from your mom. Now identical twins, that's just fluke !

    Edit: Never mind I just looked it up... the hyper ovulation gene can also be passed from a father to his daughters
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  • maymomNY said:

    beaubecca said:

    "

    I automatically assume if you have fraternal twins, you did fertility treatments. And if you say you didn't, I'm skeptical.

    I have no idea why I think that, because I know how stupid it is.

    Same here! But I think we assume that because a) we both went through infertility treatments, and b) it is still pretty rare to have twins that weren't a result of treatments so we're just betting on the odds, right??
    One of the reasons I'm nervous about getting ku again is because twins run in my family. My dad is a twin. His twin has twins. There are others in my family as well. I was 32 when I had g and I've heard the later you start, the higher the chance!
    Are the twins in your dad's family fraternal or identical? Only fraternal is hereditary. But you probably know that.

    I tend to assume the same thing, @Blueyed228‌, unless the mom is overweight or older. Dumb, I know.

     I do this too.  But I also live in a state with the highest rate of twin births because fertility treatments are covered by insurance here.

    Hi neighbor.

    I live near Arlington, which has the highest rate in the state/country. But I'll tell you,its not popular in my twin moms groups to talk about.
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    DX: PCOS/Recurrent losses/MTHFR mutation (compound hetero)
    5 hysteroscopies/2 surgical
    3 Inject IUIs = 2 m/c's and 1 BFN
    IVF #1= BFP. m/c at 7w6d. Needed 2 D&C's and scar tissue removal. Mild OHSS
    IVF #2 = BFP. Severe OHSS. 4 Drainings. TWINS!
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    edited September 2014


    maymomNY said:

    beaubecca said:

    "

    I automatically assume if you have fraternal twins, you did fertility treatments. And if you say you didn't, I'm skeptical.

    I have no idea why I think that, because I know how stupid it is.

    Same here! But I think we assume that because a) we both went through infertility treatments, and b) it is still pretty rare to have twins that weren't a result of treatments so we're just betting on the odds, right??
    One of the reasons I'm nervous about getting ku again is because twins run in my family. My dad is a twin. His twin has twins. There are others in my family as well. I was 32 when I had g and I've heard the later you start, the higher the chance!

    You should be good... don't twins run on the mom's side ? Hyper ovulation is something that's passed down from your mom. Now identical twins, that's just fluke !

    Edit: Never mind I just looked it up... the hyper ovulation gene can also be passed from a father to his daughters


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    That's why they say it skips a generation. I'm in that generation (my aunt and uncle are twins). My DH is a twin (fraternal) so our daughter will have a higher chance too (but not our son).

    FFFC - my DH is sweet about chores and says I stay home to take care of the baby and not to clean the house. But, I still feel bad about it a lot and blame my lack of doing some chores on this pregnancy or I exaggerate ds' behavior during the day more than I probably should!
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  • Twins don't "skip" generations.
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    3 Inject IUIs = 2 m/c's and 1 BFN
    IVF #1= BFP. m/c at 7w6d. Needed 2 D&C's and scar tissue removal. Mild OHSS
    IVF #2 = BFP. Severe OHSS. 4 Drainings. TWINS!
  • I have two cousins that are fraternal twins.
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  • Twins don't "skip" generations.

    Maybe it's an old wives tale, but "they" (whoever they are) say that twins are hereditary. So if your parents are twins and you are a male, then the hereditary part (hyper ovulation like pp mentioned? I'm not sure) would not apply to you, but to your daughter. Like I said, may be an old wives tale, but that's the saying in my family.
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  • tee18 said:

    Twins don't "skip" generations.

    Maybe it's an old wives tale, but "they" (whoever they are) say that twins are hereditary. So if your parents are twins and you are a male, then the hereditary part (hyper ovulation like pp mentioned? I'm not sure) would not apply to you, but to your daughter. Like I said, may be an old wives tale, but that's the saying in my family.
    If your parents are twins and you are female you can have twins. Which is why it doesn't "skip". Twins can be hereditary for lots of families, it just doesnt skip. Its just like passing on any other hereditary trait.

    But they can def be hereditary.
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    DX: PCOS/Recurrent losses/MTHFR mutation (compound hetero)
    5 hysteroscopies/2 surgical
    3 Inject IUIs = 2 m/c's and 1 BFN
    IVF #1= BFP. m/c at 7w6d. Needed 2 D&C's and scar tissue removal. Mild OHSS
    IVF #2 = BFP. Severe OHSS. 4 Drainings. TWINS!
  • edited September 2014
    I think Tee18 is saying it "skips" generations on the father's side. As a man can't cause his own twins, but he can (sort of) "cause" his twin grandkids.

    It doesn't "skip" on the mother's side.
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  • Its semantics, but a man can't inherit the ability to ovulate 2 eggs since he has no eggs. Which is why it doesn't "skip" him. Because if he has a sister, she can have twins. Since she is of his generation, it didn't "skip" a generation.

    But yes. We are all saying the same thing. Sort of.
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    DX: PCOS/Recurrent losses/MTHFR mutation (compound hetero)
    5 hysteroscopies/2 surgical
    3 Inject IUIs = 2 m/c's and 1 BFN
    IVF #1= BFP. m/c at 7w6d. Needed 2 D&C's and scar tissue removal. Mild OHSS
    IVF #2 = BFP. Severe OHSS. 4 Drainings. TWINS!
  • Guinness Book of World Records

    "The greatest officially recorded number of children born to one mother is 69, to the wife of Feodor Vassilyev (b. 1707–c.1782), a peasant from Shuya, Russia. In 27 confinements she gave birth to 16 pairs of twins, seven sets of triplets and four sets of quadruplets."

    I think this lady is the leading authority on multiple birth chances.


  • But "if" he doesn't have a sister, than it could "skip" a generation.

    We are saying the same thing, unless you're saying twins can not be passed on through a man's genes.

    No I absolutely know it can be passed down from dad. That used to be the old wives tale I heard floating. "Twins come from dads side".

    But the saying" twins skip a generation" is saying an absolute and that is false. It technically could, but not because the gene goes dormant every other generation. You see some families with twins every generation, every other, every third, etc.
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    DX: PCOS/Recurrent losses/MTHFR mutation (compound hetero)
    5 hysteroscopies/2 surgical
    3 Inject IUIs = 2 m/c's and 1 BFN
    IVF #1= BFP. m/c at 7w6d. Needed 2 D&C's and scar tissue removal. Mild OHSS
    IVF #2 = BFP. Severe OHSS. 4 Drainings. TWINS!
  • I love how they don't even give her name . She is just the "wife of".

    I'm shocked her uterus didn't fall out.
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    DX: PCOS/Recurrent losses/MTHFR mutation (compound hetero)
    5 hysteroscopies/2 surgical
    3 Inject IUIs = 2 m/c's and 1 BFN
    IVF #1= BFP. m/c at 7w6d. Needed 2 D&C's and scar tissue removal. Mild OHSS
    IVF #2 = BFP. Severe OHSS. 4 Drainings. TWINS!
  • ^ Shank, your dad's fraternal twins came from his partner's side (either of her parents could have passed her the hyper-ovulation gene).

    Your male cousin's twins also would have come from his partner's side. So just coincidence!
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  • Twins don't "skip" generations.




    My Dad had a set of fraternal twins, as did my cousin ( my dad's nephew). Consecutive generations.
    No skipping.
    So now I catching up and seeing that it's all on the Mom? So was it just huge coincidence that they both had fraternal twins?



    It looks like they both married women who had the ability to drop 2 eggs. I don't know the statistics on that, but I would say that yeah, sounds like a big coincidence.

    However. I have a second cousin who has fraternal twins too. But we both did IVF.
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    DX: PCOS/Recurrent losses/MTHFR mutation (compound hetero)
    5 hysteroscopies/2 surgical
    3 Inject IUIs = 2 m/c's and 1 BFN
    IVF #1= BFP. m/c at 7w6d. Needed 2 D&C's and scar tissue removal. Mild OHSS
    IVF #2 = BFP. Severe OHSS. 4 Drainings. TWINS!
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  • As a kid, I had neighbors with 10 kids in their family (the first 2 births were singletons, and the next 4 births were all twins). Her OB told her she'd probably start having triplets, so she tied her tubes. Therefore, I can believe the Russian lady thing.

    My FFFC is that I haven't been brushing LO's teeth regularly.  I know most of them will fall out anyway, am busy with the other kids, and always forget.


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  • Not a shocking confession but I too am scared of having twins in the future.  (Twin mamas, you guys are my heroes!)  My younger sisters are fraternal twins.  My parents had 2 girls, tried for one more, and my mom went ahead and dropped 2 eggs that time around for 2 more girls.  She was in her mid-30s and no fertility treatments.  I will be in my late 30s if/when we TTC again.
  • My aunt (my mom's sister) had spontaneous triplets. I'm a little scared too!

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  • Maybe this is a UO/FFFC.... but I never really understood those people who said "well if you have twins then you could be done..." for some reason when I said I wanted two kids, I think in my mind I meant I want two kids of different ages.  If I had twins first, I think I would still try for another just because I want to have kids of different ages.  Not to say that twins are not two children... Am I weird? 
  • MamaMD said:

    Not a shocking confession but I too am scared of having twins in the future.  (Twin mamas, you guys are my heroes!)  My younger sisters are fraternal twins.  My parents had 2 girls, tried for one more, and my mom went ahead and dropped 2 eggs that time around for 2 more girls.  She was in her mid-30s and no fertility treatments.  I will be in my late 30s if/when we TTC again.

    This just happened to my sil. She's due in beginning of year. She will have a 3.5 and 15 mon old. I get overwhelmed thinking about it. My FFFC is I'd have full on panic attack if I had twins the third time around, when we start trying again soon. Having a 3 yo is kicking my ass. I can imagine having twins with a 3 yo to parent all day long.
  • @missk0411‌ I get that! I was just meaning for myself!!! I didn't mean to offend just explain a thought!
  • I admit when I meet fraternal twins I always assume fertility treatments too. This year I have 3 sets of fraternal twins in my classes and one set of identical. That's a lot out of 95 students.

    However I shouldn't think that because we have friends who have "natural" fraternal twins. And a guy I used to work with's wife has 3 sets of fraternal twins. No freaking joke. 10 kids all together. Don't get me started.
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  • Maybe this is a UO/FFFC.... but I never really understood those people who said "well if you have twins then you could be done..." for some reason when I said I wanted two kids, I think in my mind I meant I want two kids of different ages.  If I had twins first, I think I would still try for another just because I want to have kids of different ages.  Not to say that twins are not two children... Am I weird? 



    No, you're not weird.  We attract a lot of attention in public and get all sorts of corny comments ("Double trouble!" or "You have your hands full!")  I take most of it well.  There are only two things that make me want to clobber people.  One is if they ask if they're natural, and the other is when they say something like "You're done!"  or "Must be nice to have it done in one shot!"  Thank you for making that decision for me.  What if I wanted three boys?  What if I have two other kids at home?  Ugggh.  

    I know having 2 close in age is not the same as having twins but I get the same comments whenever I go out in public. The "wow you have your hands full" and "you must be done because you have a boy and a girl". My parents and in laws are bad about saying those things too. It's really annoying and no I don't feel done thanks.


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  • Honestly, I'd love twins next time and preferably a boy and girl then I'd be done. We want 3 kids, and in my mind, I think I'd like 2 boys and 1 girl ideally because I could reuse all R's baby boy stuff and get to pick out all the cute girly things. I also was not a fan of being pregnant so I'm all about efficiency here.
  • emmy236 said:
    Honestly, I'd love twins next time and preferably a boy and girl then I'd be done. We want 3 kids, and in my mind, I think I'd like 2 boys and 1 girl ideally because I could reuse all R's baby boy stuff and get to pick out all the cute girly things. I also was not a fan of being pregnant so I'm all about efficiency here.

    I want 4 kids and the idea of having twins next sounds awesome but the reality of a twin pregnancy and 2 crying newborns is scary!! (:|


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  • fancefpp said:
    Not a shocking confession but I too am scared of having twins in the future.  (Twin mamas, you guys are my heroes!)  My younger sisters are fraternal twins.  My parents had 2 girls, tried for one more, and my mom went ahead and dropped 2 eggs that time around for 2 more girls.  She was in her mid-30s and no fertility treatments.  I will be in my late 30s if/when we TTC again.
    This just happened to my sil. She's due in beginning of year. She will have a 3.5 and 15 mon old. I get overwhelmed thinking about it. My FFFC is I'd have full on panic attack if I had twins the third time around, when we start trying again soon. Having a 3 yo is kicking my ass. I can imagine having twins with a 3 yo to parent all day long.
    OMG for your SIL!  At least I was 7 and my sister was 4 when the twins came along.  I imagine that's a little better.  Though at that time there was no routine US and amnio so my parents didn't know they were having twins until very late, like a month before they were born.  The twins just turned 30 and my parents are still married so we all survived!
  • Another FFC.

    I laugh when I hear people say they "want" twins.

    Also when people assume I "went for twins".

    Because this shit is just so fun and easy...
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    DX: PCOS/Recurrent losses/MTHFR mutation (compound hetero)
    5 hysteroscopies/2 surgical
    3 Inject IUIs = 2 m/c's and 1 BFN
    IVF #1= BFP. m/c at 7w6d. Needed 2 D&C's and scar tissue removal. Mild OHSS
    IVF #2 = BFP. Severe OHSS. 4 Drainings. TWINS!
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