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Massage to bring baby 2weeks early so not on Christmas Day!!

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Re: Massage to bring baby 2weeks early so not on Christmas Day!!

  • soulcupcakesoulcupcake member
    edited August 2014
    @danisgossipgirl

    Oh, you mean Dr. Amy Tuteur doesn't present reliable and critical data? Bahahaha. Many people that are new to low intervention birth advocacy and natural birth culture and are put off or puzzled by crunchy birthing hippies like citing her, only if they knew and realized she's been spouting her nonsense for years, and anyone with some sense and actual understanding of evidence-based care ignores her ramblings.
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  • soulcupcakesoulcupcake member
    ColeyCannoli said:
    danisgossipgirl said:
    The skeptical OB is the last place i'd look for unbiased information. She is on the opposite end of the spectrum from dolphin-assisted freebirthing, I'd much rather consult sources that don't have such a strong agenda, like just about anything else out there.
    My friend who is studying to become an OB called her the Rush Limbaugh of obstetricians. Don't take what she says at face value. She loves to twist facts and statistics (and even people's stolen personal stories) to fit her narrow agenda.

    Edit: Gods, I checked her site and found "5 Things The Ferguson Police Have in Common with Homebirth Midwives" - yeah... she seems stable and trustworthy...
    :-S
    :faint:

    Wow. I just can't. Just... :sigh:
    G 12.04 | E 11.06 | D 11.08  | H 12.09 | R 11.14 | Expecting #6 2.16.18.



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  • taylornoelltaylornoell member
    edited August 2014
    If the OP even still reads this awful thread... I'm also due on Christmas and as a very small person have been advised to be induced about a week early because it would be easier on my body and reduce risk of complication. Reading this post has made me really sad, and kind of ashamed to be in the December mom group. I read this expecting to see respectful opinions, and sure some opposing views, but wow... Even made me feel like crap that my doctor would dare choose to induce me at 38 weeks which is still considered full term, just to make it easier for me. But I'm obviously way to selfish to wait the 40 weeks and potentially hurt myself. Woohoo selfish moms!
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  • brunoshortbrunoshort member
    Wouldn't it be better to have it on Christmas than to lug a newborn around everywhere between Christmas Eve and Day?
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  • brunoshortbrunoshort member
    edited August 2014
    I should also mention I was born on 12/29 -and- a preemie. Neither of those are all that pleasant but I'd take full term at 12/29 over undercooked just to avoid the problems I have as an adult.
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  • taylornoelltaylornoell member
    It was a suggestion for my convenience but I could opt to go full 40 if I wanted. It would just be a more painful, and long, and hard labor. You guys are all so damn rude. And yes I have posted on here before and had issues with people like you all. As a ftm I thought these were supposed to provide support but I guess I'm just too inexperienced!!
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  • CryssteenCryssteen member
    Oh geesus.  All we do is offend people by being meanies.  Better stop that!  Clearly some of you don't feel the need to read through threads before deciding we're all mean.
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  • ColeyCannoliColeyCannoli member
    edited August 2014
    danisgossipgirl said:

    Most doctors wouldn't advise a person in second tri to induce at 38 weeks for size, no one has any idea at this point how big their baby will be closer to EDD. I call bullshit. Maybe if there was a specific pelvic anomaly, but not for stature or the baby's size. Acog doesn't recommend induction for large babies, either.

    Taylor, please consider changing your SN. Using your real name on a forum isn't a good idea.

    Yeeeah... my mother has never weighed more than 95lb with tiny hips. All the doctor did was tell her it was gonna hurt when she had my 8lb brother and that was over 30 years ago. Unless she is actually a Little Person, I'm finding this hard to buy.
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  • soulcupcakesoulcupcake member
    ColeyCannoli said:
    Most doctors wouldn't advise a person in second tri to induce at 38 weeks for size, no one has any idea at this point how big their baby will be closer to EDD. I call bullshit. Maybe if there was a specific pelvic anomaly, but not for stature or the baby's size. Acog doesn't recommend induction for large babies, either. Taylor, please consider changing your SN. Using your real name on a forum isn't a good idea.
    Yeeeah... my mother has never weighed more than 95lb with tiny hips. All the doctor did was tell her it was gonna hurt when she had my 8lb brother and that was over 30 years ago. Unless she is actually a Little Person, I'm finding this hard to buy.
    I grew up being told I have great "birthing hips," and had a midwife tell me after having my second daughter that I have a very wide birth canal and pelvis suitable for big babies. He totally made me laugh.

    There was a tiny woman (Asian -- to provide context since they're often known to be petite) in one of my D09 groups that birthed a 10.5 lb baby boy. And another mama on another board, about 5'6" and 125 pre-preg, had a 12 lb 6 oz baby boy at home. She pushed for 20 minutes.

    Even petite women can birth big babies. I was *really* hoping my youngest was 10+ pounds. I felt huge with him. My midwife guessed 9ish. Yep, he was 9 lbs. But he was solid, so that's good.
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  • ColeyCannoliColeyCannoli member
    edited August 2014
    aeonlux said:
    ColeyCannoli said:
    Most doctors wouldn't advise a person in second tri to induce at 38 weeks for size, no one has any idea at this point how big their baby will be closer to EDD. I call bullshit. Maybe if there was a specific pelvic anomaly, but not for stature or the baby's size. Acog doesn't recommend induction for large babies, either. Taylor, please consider changing your SN. Using your real name on a forum isn't a good idea.
    Yeeeah... my mother has never weighed more than 95lb with tiny hips. All the doctor did was tell her it was gonna hurt when she had my 8lb brother and that was over 30 years ago. Unless she is actually a Little Person, I'm finding this hard to buy.
    I grew up being told I have great "birthing hips," and had a midwife tell me after having my second daughter that I have a very wide birth canal and pelvis suitable for big babies. He totally made me laugh.

    There was a tiny woman (Asian -- to provide context since they're often known to be petite) in one of my D09 groups that birthed a 10.5 lb baby boy. And another mama on another board, about 5'6" and 125 pre-preg, had a 12 lb 6 oz baby boy at home. She pushed for 20 minutes.

    Even petite women can birth big babies. I was *really* hoping my youngest was 10+ pounds. I felt huge with him. My midwife guessed 9ish. Yep, he was 9 lbs. But he was solid, so that's good.
    I'm not thin and I'm fairly tall but I'm part Asian and have a pretty narrow bone structure: small hands, small feet, small ribcage, and sadly small hips (I'm weirdly proportioned, thanks genes! :P) I've been told my hips will make my life hard if I have a baby the size my DH was (over 10lbs) but no one has even hinted at early induction. Babe is still, what, 2lbs now? Waaay too early to decide anything.
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  • soulcupcakesoulcupcake member
    edited August 2014
    ColeyCannoli said:
    I'm not thin and I'm fairly tall but I'm part Asian and have a pretty narrow bone structure: small hands, small feet, small ribcage, and sadly small hips (I'm weirdly proportioned, thanks genes! :P) I've been told my hips will make my life hard if I have a baby the size my DH was (over 10lbs) but no one has even hinted at early induction. Babe is still, what, 2lbs now? Waaay too early to decide anything.
    Yep. 2 lbs is about right at this stage. I can usually better gauge possible size once they begin to put on fat around 32ish weeks. DH was just under 9 lbs, so not very big, and I was only 7 lbs. 10 oz. We were both 21 inches.

    I wouldn't know what to do with a baby <8 lbs. Seems so tiny!
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  • mrsrrobersonmrsrroberson member
    ashtonkitty1 said:


    taylornoell said:

    It was a suggestion for my convenience but I could opt to go full 40 if I wanted. It would just be a more painful, and long, and hard labor. You guys are all so damn rude. And yes I have posted on here before and had issues with people like you all. As a ftm I thought these were supposed to provide support but I guess I'm just too inexperienced!!

    Nope.  We weren't all rude.  Generalizations will not earn you support.  I feel like you aren't reading what's being written.  Moving on.  

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  • taylojade57taylojade57 member
    @JunkieBrewster‌ I'm due the 30th! Baby H will be evicted on the 31st.

    I also may or may not be joking. :D
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  • JunkieBrewsterJunkieBrewster member
    Courtneylovesjason2 said:
    JunkieBrewster said:
    I may need to check into this massage business if baby appears he is not coming by due date.

    Because
    #1 Deductible re-starts 6 days later, 
    and #2, tax write off.

    I may or may not be joking.
    LMAO, DH and I totally had this discussion!
    I have vacation plans for that extra $1000, ok?
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  • JunkieBrewsterJunkieBrewster member
    Courtneylovesjason2 said:
    DD's onesie under her going home outfit said "Tax Deduction".  I hope I saved that; gotta go through my old baby clothes.   :P
    I almost bought one of those this morning, lmao
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  • CandEChicagoCandEChicago member
    JunkieBrewster said:
    Courtneylovesjason2 said:
    JunkieBrewster said:
    I may need to check into this massage business if baby appears he is not coming by due date.

    Because
    #1 Deductible re-starts 6 days later, 
    and #2, tax write off.

    I may or may not be joking.
    LMAO, DH and I totally had this discussion!
    I have vacation plans for that extra $1000, ok?
    Just so long as you aren't going to induce early I will love tit this.   Where is the vacation?  


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  • 2JEL2JEL member
    For those of you (seriously) planning to induce on 12/30 or 12/31 around your due date, isn't that cutting it a bit close (I say as someone who's mother labored 48 hours+)?  Won't you also quite possibly be spending the following few days in the hospital, re-upping your deductible? 

    Given the strong consensus on this board against early induction, I'm not suggesting you push way earlier, but that if the insurance and deduction are a major factor for your family, maybe go 39W5D at 12/28 instead of 40W at 12/30.  As someone due approximately 12/8, I don't have to worry about it, but I'm willing to be flamed to say that I would ask to be induced on 12/28 to get a likely necessary C on this calendar year's insurance if my due date was 12/31. :p  FWIW, my brother and husband were both born approximately 8 weeks early and I'm a big supporter of March of Dimes, which helped save their lives (back in the 80s)-- but my OB says that 39 weeks is full term and I trust him.


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  • JunkieBrewsterJunkieBrewster member
    edited August 2014
    2JEL said:
    For those of you (seriously) planning to induce on 12/30 or 12/31 around your due date, isn't that cutting it a bit close (I say as someone who's mother labored 48 hours+)?  Won't you also quite possibly be spending the following few days in the hospital, re-upping your deductible? 

    Given the strong consensus on this board against early induction, I'm not suggesting you push way earlier, but that if the insurance and deduction are a major factor for your family, maybe go 39W5D at 12/28 instead of 40W at 12/30.  As someone due approximately 12/8, I don't have to worry about it, but I'm willing to be flamed to say that I would ask to be induced on 12/28 to get a likely necessary C on this calendar year's insurance if my due date was 12/31. :p  FWIW, my brother and husband were both born approximately 8 weeks early and I'm a big supporter of March of Dimes, which helped save their lives (back in the 80s)-- but my OB says that 39 weeks is full term and I trust him.
    I dont think any of us were serious (though that may change at 39 weeks), haha.
    Though, I would like to not pay the deductible, because I won't need it next week since I am no longer receiving remicade treatments and have hit my OOP for the year - I dont even have to pay co-pays or my 20% this year.

    In a perfect world, he would come Dec 20th because my mom, and MIL are on vacation that week, and it would really help with childcare.
    My first son was 42.5 weeks.
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  • Shortstack06Shortstack06 member
    I am due 1/1 and I keep hearing about you should go for the tax deductions. My insurance deductible reset in July so I will ve okay there. We didn't find out the sex and one of the "surpises" of having a baby is when the water breaks. I hope it is somewhere public a teenager has to clean up and works as birth control for them!
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  • soulcupcakesoulcupcake member
    I'd have no problem inducing at 41 weeks. My midwife gives her clients that option between 41-42 weeks. The anxiety would start to get to me after 39 weeks, and would want to get her out for peace of mind.


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  • designchicadesignchica member
    If you don't want your baby to come on Christmas, you shouldn't have conceived in early April.
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  • JunkieBrewsterJunkieBrewster member
    edited August 2014
    designchica said:

    If you don't want your baby to come on Christmas, you shouldn't have conceived in early April.

    That's an awfully judgemental comment.

    it took us eight years to conceive this child, so I don't really give a shit when it comes. I would prefer it be Christmas, but not enough to erase the whole pregnancy.

    some of us here are lucky we got pregnant, and it doesn't erase the fact that it sucks for a kid to have a Christmas birthday.

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  • 2JEL2JEL member
    JunkieBrewster said:
    If you don't want your baby to come on Christmas, you shouldn't have conceived in early April.
    That's an awfully judgemental comment. it took us eight years to conceive this child, so I don't really give a shit when it comes. I would prefer it be Christmas, but not enough to erase the whole pregnancy. some of us here are lucky we got pregnant, and it doesn't erase the fact that it sucks for a kid to have a Christmas birthday.
    Agree with @JunkieBrewster.  In my case, it didn't take 8 years, but it I only ovulate every 100 days or so (and possibly fewer, not entirely clear every cycle is ovulatory).  FWIW, had it been 10 days later I still would have considered TTA, because as a Thanksgiving baby, I recall disliking when I was younger that everybody was busy with family obligations and out of town when my parents planned birthday parties.  Later in life, late Nov/early Dec was a period where everybody was fixated on studying for finals.  My biggest concern with having a kid arrive in mid-late December is that it is an extra event to fit in with holiday recitals, work parties, school parties, and holiday shopping-- but I also think as so many women around here have pointed out it can be done well with planning and effort. :)


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  • AngelSong76AngelSong76 member
    Oh yes, it's so easy to plan exactly when you are going to conceive *sarcasm font*  

    After 10 months of trying and fertility treatments, we were just happy to get pregnant.  We didn't care when the baby was due!  I'm looking forward to taking newborn pics with a santa hat.  Our little St. Nicholas.  :)

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  • JunkieBrewsterJunkieBrewster member
    edited August 2014
    ColeyCannoli said:
    JunkieBrewster said:
    If you don't want your baby to come on Christmas, you shouldn't have conceived in early April.
    That's an awfully judgemental comment. it took us eight years to conceive this child, so I don't really give a shit when it comes. I would prefer it be Christmas, but not enough to erase the whole pregnancy. some of us here are lucky we got pregnant, and it doesn't erase the fact that it sucks for a kid to have a Christmas birthday.
    To be fair, several people said this exact same thing earlier (including myself) and no one got upset. If you are willing to induce three weeks early because omg-not-Christmas-birthday! Than, yeah, you shouldn't have been having sex in April. I don't think designchica was aiming this at you but at anyone who would put their child at risk just to avoid a birthday.
    I fully admit I skipped a bunch of posts, but my comment is directed at pretty much anyone who has that line of thinking. No one was seriously considering inducing 3 weeks early that I saw, but again, I did not read all the comments but if someone actually said that 3 weeks was a consideraton  and was not joking about taxes and deductibles, thats shitty.

    ETA: Apparently I missed some shit around page 2 and 3. 
    That said, it's not the first time I've seen or heard that this pregnancy, and I am probably sensitive to it and sick of hearing it.
    @Designchica, I apologize my comment came off as personally directed at YOU - I just hate that opinion in general.
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  • ginalisa28ginalisa28 member
    The only wives tale I would rely on that is safe for baby and helps bring on labor is to walk and maybe eat some spicy food. Otherwise massages can be tricky especially if the masseuse isn't prenatal certified. And I would wait unless ur doctor wants to induce you. Bc you want to wait til baby is ready to come.
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  • designchicadesignchica member
    Look, I think it's wrong to intentionally induce labor to avoid having your baby on Christmas. I think it's risky and yes, I have a judgement about it. I get that it's difficult to plan when to have a baby. I tried for a year in my first marriage only to have a mc. Even more reason to not be so concerned about when your baby is born, so long as he/she is healthy. To risk any potential problems to your baby to avoid a Christmas baby is not something I can support.
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  • lavet22lavet22 member
    I got weekly massages during the last month of pregnancy with DS2 and DS3 because I had such terrible back pain.  Both boys went over 40wks.  If your body is not ready, baby will not come early.
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