The Great Breastfeeding Thread

emineminem · August 2014

So true @AmyG*‌ my hospital LC got us started but the advice she gave for continuing after we left was awful. I made an appointment with the LC at my pediatrician's office and she was great!

shortstack930 · August 2014

I definitely agree with making sure you have a good LC. Took DD to her pedi yesterday and she had only gained 3 oz since her appt two weeks ago so the pedi was worried. Went to see an amazing LC today and she figured out that DD didn't have a great latch and isn't pulling enough milk from the breast which has caused my supply to drop. She showed me how to do a better latch and gave me tips to increase my supply again and help DD to get enough milk out of the breast. I'm so grateful that there are people like her to help us!!

susanskowera · August 2014

This seems to be pretty obvious, but I'm slightly mad at myself for going 10 days before fixing it. If they say your LO had a tongue tie, even a mild one, GET IT CLIPPED! Just got DS's clipped this afternoon and it's amazing.

kenziebug22 · August 2014

2lacyblue said:
My baby has always been noisy since he was born. When he nurses he makes a loud squeaky noise if he is in a big hurry to eat. It goes away once he slows down. He's always done this, but I have been wondering lately if it's normal. I don't have latch or supply issues as far as I can tell - no pain, growth and diapers are good. Just curious, are there any other squeakers and moaners out there?

Sometimes my LO is as quiet as can be and other times he makes all kinds of squeaks and moans and he doesnt have any problems

susanskowera · August 2014

2lacyblue said:
My baby has always been noisy since he was born. When he nurses he makes a loud squeaky noise if he is in a big hurry to eat. It goes away once he slows down. He's always done this, but I have been wondering lately if it's normal. I don't have latch or supply issues as far as I can tell - no pain, growth and diapers are good. Just curious, are there any other squeakers and moaners out there?

Mine sounds like a gremlin most of the time.

kwh33ls · August 2014

We call ours "milk monster" because of te sounds she makes...she makes little noises throughout her feedings and they are adorable

littlemissmarla · August 2014

2lacyblue said:
My baby has always been noisy since he was born. When he nurses he makes a loud squeaky noise if he is in a big hurry to eat. It goes away once he slows down. He's always done this, but I have been wondering lately if it's normal. I don't have latch or supply issues as far as I can tell - no pain, growth and diapers are good. Just curious, are there any other squeakers and moaners out there?

YES Dd is a squeaker and at the hospital they were concerned about it but the neo-natologist believes it is Stridor "noisy breathing" specifically something called laryngomalacia. We had her checked by an ear nose and throat specialist and he said its a mild case. It's fairly common, basically there is a flap at the back of their throat and some babies have weaker ones that don't stand up as strong yet, as they grow it will get stronger and it will resolve itself in 6-8months, there's no treatment and it doesn't bother them, more concerning for people around them to hear it. If your concerned have an ENT check out your LO. They put a scope down her throat and it was over in a minute.

dobbyisfree · August 2014

LO did wake up once overnight, but it wasmt even close to 3 hours yet so I tried cuddling him first. Then I fell asleep (with him on his tummy :-/) til just now. It was amazing to sleep that long, but I dont know if he really leaked through his diaper or if its milk (he slept on my chest) I dont normally leak a lot, luckily, but that was a long time.

ichamommy · August 2014

I just did an entire feed standing in Captain Morgan pose while waiting for my dog to come in from outside. I'd like to know where to collect my Mom badge now.

Nichole8787 · August 2014

Anyone else get fire and ice feeling boobs st night? How do you fix it?

Nichole8787 · August 2014

@amlonica‌ I would be so thankful ! Just change the diaper and your shirt. Now go do a well rested happy dance.

honeybee434 · August 2014

DD is 7 weeks today and the last couple of days she had been nursing in a lot less time-wise than usual at each session. I track it all on an app and usually she spends from 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 hours nursing a day, and she's suddenly dropped to 2 1/2-3 hours. Just now I fed her and could only get her to eat for 12 minutes when usually it would be an 18-22 minute session. So far her diaper count is normal, but since it's only been a couple days I don't know if it would show yet or not.

She will unlatch when she's finished and then just stare at me awake so she isn't falling asleep, she just has decided that she's done and isn't interested in even opening her mouth up to re-latch for more. I'm afraid that something is wrong or that it's going to mess up my supply. But, I don't want to add extra pumping and end up with a ton of oversupply if she IS getting enough each time. I pump once a day still and am getting the same amount for my freezer stash, so I know that there is plenty more for her she just doesn't want to eat it for some reason. Could she have really gotten that much more efficient in 2 days to nurse for that much less time?

Soon2BMrsN · August 2014

honeybee434 said:
DD is 7 weeks today and the last couple of days she had been nursing in a lot less time-wise than usual at each session. I track it all on an app and usually she spends from 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 hours nursing a day, and she's suddenly dropped to 2 1/2-3 hours. Just now I fed her and could only get her to eat for 12 minutes when usually it would be an 18-22 minute session. So far her diaper count is normal, but since it's only been a couple days I don't know if it would show yet or not.

She will unlatch when she's finished and then just stare at me awake so she isn't falling asleep, she just has decided that she's done and isn't interested in even opening her mouth up to re-latch for more. I'm afraid that something is wrong or that it's going to mess up my supply. But, I don't want to add extra pumping and end up with a ton of oversupply if she IS getting enough each time. I pump once a day still and am getting the same amount for my freezer stash, so I know that there is plenty more for her she just doesn't want to eat it for some reason. Could she have really gotten that much more efficient in 2 days to nurse for that much less time?

She could definitely be getting more efficient. Sounds like everything else is fine, so I wouldn't worry about it.

nolemomma14 · August 2014

honeybee434 said:
DD is 7 weeks today and the last couple of days she had been nursing in a lot less time-wise than usual at each session. I track it all on an app and usually she spends from 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 hours nursing a day, and she's suddenly dropped to 2 1/2-3 hours. Just now I fed her and could only get her to eat for 12 minutes when usually it would be an 18-22 minute session. So far her diaper count is normal, but since it's only been a couple days I don't know if it would show yet or not.

She will unlatch when she's finished and then just stare at me awake so she isn't falling asleep, she just has decided that she's done and isn't interested in even opening her mouth up to re-latch for more. I'm afraid that something is wrong or that it's going to mess up my supply. But, I don't want to add extra pumping and end up with a ton of oversupply if she IS getting enough each time. I pump once a day still and am getting the same amount for my freezer stash, so I know that there is plenty more for her she just doesn't want to eat it for some reason. Could she have really gotten that much more efficient in 2 days to nurse for that much less time?

DS seemed to cut down his nursing time overnight as well. He's almost 5 weeks, and an average nursing session went from 20-25 minutes to now just 10-12 minutes. It happened around 2 weeks. I too was worried, and made sure to bring it up to his pediatrician at his 1 month visit. She said as long as his wet and dirty diapers stay the same and he is gaining weight he was definitely getting enough. He does the same thing as your DD. He unlatches and is just awake

honeybee434 · August 2014

@kdelgado03‌ Thank you! This makes me feel a lot better!

Athenanolen · August 2014

Bpargood said:

Huahine said:

babybell22 said:
Blockquote class="Quote" rel="Jdubb13">We've been dealing with green mucus stools for over 2 weeks now and I'm so frustrated. DD sleeps great, but anytime she's awake she's fussy and I think it's because her stomach hurts. She's also gaining weight like a champ so I know she's getting fed. I've done hours of research and I'm almost positive we're dealing with a foremilk/hindmilk imbalance and an overactive let down. She's a quick nurser and only eats for 5-10 minutes so I'm only nursing on one side per feeding. Her pediatrician recommended removing all dairy from my diet so I'm also on day 3 of that with no improvement, but I know it can take up to 2 weeks. I really don't think it's an allergy, but I'm willing to try anything before moving on. Did anyone experience the same issues or have any advice?
I do deal with green stool on occasion. They are typically the same consistency as her yellow ones though. What I do is she eats from one side and then I switch her to the other. Next feeding we start from the side we ended on before that way she can get hind milk. My LO is only two weeks and is not nearly as efficient as your LO so it's easy to interrupt her if need be to make the switch. Maybe try switching her at the 5 minute mark?

Also we did have mucus in her stool and I had to cut out tomatoes. Once I did that it cleared right up. She wasn't fussy either.

Good luck!
I have had similar over supply issues with both kids. Block feeding makes the biggest difference for me. I only nurse one side per session and for any additional sessions during a set time period - currently 2 hours. This helps keep my supply in check so LO isn't trying to latch onto a fire hose spewing skim milk.

This. Only one side per feeding in a limited time frame making sure to empty that side,stopping when LO lets you know they are done. The worst thing to do (according the a few LC and LLL) is time LO on a side and switch them because there's a higher chance that they may not have gotten all the hind milk and switching means more fore milk which causes that green stool. I too have a very active let down and will even pull DD off when I first let down and let my water hose-like flow stop before I let her latch again to make sure the excess fore milk drains and my flow is more comfortable for her to handle.

LLL also mentions the no dairy suggestion that some docs recommend does not actually help with the extra lactose as your body doesn't add more lactose to your milk based on your own lactose ingestion. I just read an article on it on LLL's site that I wish I could find again so i could link it but I'm mobile right now.

It may not add lactose but I saw an immediate difference of gas pains when I cut out dairy. Now she doesn't hate me after feedings

bgoodbpar · August 2014

@athenanolen gas is a total different issue and changing diet definitely can help with gas problems. I too have had to monitor my diet when LO had gas pains though for me it's the same foods that give me gas.

My comment was only referring to the milk imbalance and extra lactose as it relates to green stool and how cutting dairy doesn't help green stool

likeanoldtimemovie · August 2014

cko521 said:
Random sort of BF related question: when I burp LO, she never used to spit up, but she's started to spit up a little occasionally this week (she's 3 1/2 weeks). She also has a little milk come out her nose when she burps. I know the spitting up is normal, though I don't know why it just started now, but is the milk out the nose normal?

Milk out of the nose is totally normal. My pediatrician said babies aren't too good at the sucking/swallowing/breathing thing and can have milk just end up in the wrong place. No worries!

Aimes33m · August 2014

cko521 said:
Random sort of BF related question: when I burp LO, she never used to spit up, but she's started to spit up a little occasionally this week (she's 3 1/2 weeks). She also has a little milk come out her nose when she burps. I know the spitting up is normal, though I don't know why it just started now, but is the milk out the nose normal?

Definitely normal. It's all connected. Some babies just have a tendency to be more of nose spitter uppers.

susanskowera · August 2014

Does anyone's LO seem to prefer a side? DS can eat a whole feeding from the right side, next feeding I'll do the left and he'll nurse longer, but is almost always acting like he's still hungry after he unlatches. I almost always have to offer the right side again before he's content. Any thoughts?

lamarei · August 2014

My LO likes the right side. Sometimes I have to start her on the right and a minute or two later flip her to the left so I don't have to pump it. I also have to let her finish on the right sometimes, even if it's only a minute or two for her to be happy. Crazy!

honeybee434 · August 2014

So I finally ordered the small Medela breast shields because my right nipple is smaller than my left, and I wish I would have earlier! I always got SO much more out if my left side, like 60% more. I used it for the first time tonight and I was able to get the same ounces out of both sides! I did it during a normal feeding time and was able to get 3 oz out of each side, where before I would get 3 out of the left and 1 out of the right, makes me feel SO much better about pumping at work when I got back after my leave! I would definitely recommend to everyone to make sure you have the right sizes on your pump because it can make a big difference!

mary1217 · August 2014

@honeybee434‌ what size did you switch to? I'm having a similar I issue but can't find the small medela shield anywhere.

honeybee434 · August 2014

@mary1217‌ I purchased a small size, so I pump with a medium that came with the pump on the left size and a small on the right. I got the shields on Amazon, but you can also order them on the Medela website. I couldn't find the small size anywhere in town. Some had larger, but not smaller. I have two sets of the personal connectors/shields so I just popped the medium shield off of two of them and attached the smalls, since on Amazon they came in sets of two. I did find singles at Target of larger sizes, but not doubles and no smalls.

ETA: there is another brand on Amazon that sells even smaller sizes that are compatible if you need an extra small instead of a small. Medela stops with smalls on what they sell.

mary1217 · August 2014

@honeybee434 thanks I think I found the right one on amazon. Before I was only seeing it made by a different brand.

Nichole8787 · August 2014

At night my breasts hurting wakes me up before my lo does every time. He sleeps wakes up hungry within 15 minutes of my Boob pAin. Anyone else have trained boobs?

squnkie · August 2014

Anyone else out there with extremely painful nipples? It makes me gasp with pain every time she latches.. And her spit up has my blood in it. I got a manual pump to try to alleviate the pain, but it takes me 20 minutes to get 1 oz. anyone have ideas or advice? This is killing me!

JLHV1909 · August 2014

squnkie said:
Anyone else out there with extremely painful nipples? It makes me gasp with pain every time she latches.. And her spit up has my blood in it. I got a manual pump to try to alleviate the pain, but it takes me 20 minutes to get 1 oz. anyone have ideas or advice? This is killing me!

You aren't alone, since I'm right there too. More my right boob than my left. Little man latches great in the left with minimal pain. Right boob latching makes me want to die a little bit inside. I'm killing the lanolin and using reusable breast pads....

cookiemomma14 · August 2014

squnkie said:
Anyone else out there with extremely painful nipples? It makes me gasp with pain every time she latches.. And her spit up has my blood in it. I got a manual pump to try to alleviate the pain, but it takes me 20 minutes to get 1 oz. anyone have ideas or advice? This is killing me!

My LO had a bad latch and left me bleeding from his tongue tie. I'm still working on healing from that almost 2 weeks ago. The LC recommended 50/50 mix of polysporine and hydrocortisone and then air dry. You don't have to rinse it off either. Also warm compresses. Hope you get some relief! I recommend seeing an LC.

susanskowera · August 2014

I posted about this a page or so ago, but I think it's getting worse...DS will nurse anywhere from 30-45+ minutes on my left side and still be hungry. He will only go 10-15 on the right and be full. When I pump the left side(right now just doing it in the AM) I'll get 2+ oz (I started pumping 3 days ago), so I know it can't be a supply issue. Anybody else have this?? It's starting to drive me nuts!

shortstack930 · August 2014

susanskowera said:
I posted about this a page or so ago, but I think it's getting worse...DS will nurse anywhere from 30-45+ minutes on my left side and still be hungry. He will only go 10-15 on the right and be full. When I pump the left side(right now just doing it in the AM) I'll get 2+ oz (I started pumping 3 days ago), so I know it can't be a supply issue. Anybody else have this?? It's starting to drive me nuts!

I had a similar issue but with both breasts and I saw an LC and it turned out that DD wasn't getting a deep enough latch so she wasn't emptying the breast fully. Maybe your LO isn't latching as well on the left and not emptying it enough? I know DD has a more difficult time latching onto my left because the nipple is a little flatter.

susanskowera · August 2014

shortstack930 said:

susanskowera said:
I posted about this a page or so ago, but I think it's getting worse...DS will nurse anywhere from 30-45+ minutes on my left side and still be hungry. He will only go 10-15 on the right and be full. When I pump the left side(right now just doing it in the AM) I'll get 2+ oz (I started pumping 3 days ago), so I know it can't be a supply issue. Anybody else have this?? It's starting to drive me nuts!
I had a similar issue but with both breasts and I saw an LC and it turned out that DD wasn't getting a deep enough latch so she wasn't emptying the breast fully. Maybe your LO isn't latching as well on the left and not emptying it enough? I know DD has a more difficult time latching onto my left because the nipple is a little flatter.

He does fight getting on that side more then the other; sometimes he'll pop off 4-5 times before deciding to stay on. I noticed he falls asleep a lot on the left too. I'll look into his latch definitely! I'm about a day or two a way from calling the lactation consultant

thanks!

email2ash · August 2014

squnkie said:
Anyone else out there with extremely painful nipples? It makes me gasp with pain every time she latches.. And her spit up has my blood in it. I got a manual pump to try to alleviate the pain, but it takes me 20 minutes to get 1 oz. anyone have ideas or advice? This is killing me!

I had the same problem and called my OB who prescribed a compound ointment. What an amazing ointment it is!!! Night and day difference. I know it has a little bit of antibiotic in it and steroid. I would ask for it they should know. But you have to go to a special pharmacy that can make a compound.

Edit to add - I have visited LC several times to ensure proper latch and positioning. He just has a very strong latch and I seem to be overly sensitive. He will be 6 weeks tomorrow and I have been weaning off of the ointment so hopefully I'm getting tougher nips!

nolemomma14 · August 2014

DS will latch on and nurse fine for about 3 minutes. Then he starts unlatching and latching back on and will do this for a few minutes and I eventually have to burp him because he sucks in so much air. I then put him back on and we start the cycle all over again. I've never felt my let down (or at least I don't think I have) so I'm not sure if this could be a cause of a fast let down or maybe a slow let down. He just started doing this about a week ago, he will be 5 weeks tomorrow. He's had a bottle, but only twice and that was more than two weeks ago, so I don't think it would cause this. I'm going to put in a call to a LC consultant tomorrow but hopefully you ladies will have son advice.

Huahine · August 2014

email2ash said:

squnkie said:
Anyone else out there with extremely painful nipples? It makes me gasp with pain every time she latches.. And her spit up has my blood in it. I got a manual pump to try to alleviate the pain, but it takes me 20 minutes to get 1 oz. anyone have ideas or advice? This is killing me!
I had the same problem and called my OB who prescribed a compound ointment. What an amazing ointment it is!!! Night and day difference. I know it has a little bit of antibiotic in it and steroid. I would ask for it they should know. But you have to go to a special pharmacy that can make a compound.

Edit to add - I have visited LC several times to ensure proper latch and positioning. He just has a very strong latch and I seem to be overly sensitive. He will be 6 weeks tomorrow and I have been weaning off of the ointment so hopefully I'm getting tougher nips!

The ointment ash is describing is APNO - all purpose nipple ointment - and it seriously changed my life with DS1. It is a blend of antibiotic, antiinflamatory, and anti fungal ointments. You'll need a script for it, and to find a compounding pharmacy to blend it. One day of using it was all it took to stop the pain for me. I only wish I hadn't waited so long to ask for it.

Aimes33m · August 2014

kdelgado03 said:
DS will latch on and nurse fine for about 3 minutes. Then he starts unlatching and latching back on and will do this for a few minutes and I eventually have to burp him because he sucks in so much air. I then put him back on and we start the cycle all over again. I've never felt my let down (or at least I don't think I have) so I'm not sure if this could be a cause of a fast let down or maybe a slow let down. He just started doing this about a week ago, he will be 5 weeks tomorrow. He's had a bottle, but only twice and that was more than two weeks ago, so I don't think it would cause this. I'm going to put in a call to a LC consultant tomorrow but hopefully you ladies will have son advice.

Same exact problem. My LO is 5 weeks yesterday and this has been going on for the last few days. It's worst in the evenings (4- 9pm). I'm really frustrated and worried it's something I'm doing or a problem with my milk.

ariel8200 · August 2014

I've seen a few women talk about keeping babies awake while nursing. Why is this important? My LO nurses but I'm pretty sure she is sleeping while she is drinking.

Aimes33m · August 2014

Aimes33m said:

kdelgado03 said:
DS will latch on and nurse fine for about 3 minutes. Then he starts unlatching and latching back on and will do this for a few minutes and I eventually have to burp him because he sucks in so much air. I then put him back on and we start the cycle all over again. I've never felt my let down (or at least I don't think I have) so I'm not sure if this could be a cause of a fast let down or maybe a slow let down. He just started doing this about a week ago, he will be 5 weeks tomorrow. He's had a bottle, but only twice and that was more than two weeks ago, so I don't think it would cause this. I'm going to put in a call to a LC consultant tomorrow but hopefully you ladies will have son advice.
Same exact problem. My LO is 5 weeks yesterday and this has been going on for the last few days. It's worst in the evenings (4- 9pm). I'm really frustrated and worried it's something I'm doing or a problem with my milk.

@kdelgado03‌ did you learn anything from your LC? I called as well. They said it's likely related to overstimulation since it's every evening. She's gaining weight and has enough diapers so she wasn't concerned about milk production. Tonight is not going well so far though...

nolemomma14 · August 2014

@Aimes33m‌ they pretty much told me the same thing. I tried to express some milk before letting him latch on and it seemed to help a bit, but not that much. The morning went pretty well, but his 3pm and 6pm feedings were not fun at all. He latched, unlatched, I burped him he latched again then unlatched, cried. The LC told me if it keeps going on for a couple of more days to call back and schedule and appointment. I think what frustrates me the most is that up until a week ago, we weren't having any problems. Hopefully this passes soon!

Huahine · August 2014

Aimes33m said:

Aimes33m said:

kdelgado03 said:
DS will latch on and nurse fine for about 3 minutes. Then he starts unlatching and latching back on and will do this for a few minutes and I eventually have to burp him because he sucks in so much air. I then put him back on and we start the cycle all over again. I've never felt my let down (or at least I don't think I have) so I'm not sure if this could be a cause of a fast let down or maybe a slow let down. He just started doing this about a week ago, he will be 5 weeks tomorrow. He's had a bottle, but only twice and that was more than two weeks ago, so I don't think it would cause this. I'm going to put in a call to a LC consultant tomorrow but hopefully you ladies will have son advice.
Same exact problem. My LO is 5 weeks yesterday and this has been going on for the last few days. It's worst in the evenings (4- 9pm). I'm really frustrated and worried it's something I'm doing or a problem with my milk.
@kdelgado03‌ did you learn anything from your LC? I called as well. They said it's likely related to overstimulation since it's every evening. She's gaining weight and has enough diapers so she wasn't concerned about milk production. Tonight is not going well so far though...

Overstimulation? Tell me more, please. We're dealing with a similar pattern here.

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