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UO time!

PumpkinAndThePeanutPumpkinAndThePeanut member
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I've got one today.

Call me a prude, but I think pole dancing for exercise is anything but a harmless fun way to work out. I think it normalizes stripping and that's not ok, IMO.

What've you got?
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  • caden1206caden1206 member
    PumpkinAndThePeanut said:

    I've got one today.

    Call me a prude, but I think pole dancing for exercise is anything but a harmless fun way to work out. I think it normalizes stripping and that's not ok, IMO.

    What've you got?

    Oh man, I want to try it!
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  • Boo0512Boo0512 member
    I would totally do a pole dancing workout but am against stripping...hypocritical? Probably.

    I see what you mean about
    normalizing it. I think stripping and porn are both very bad for women as a whole. I do think pole dancing for exercise would be fun though, well, if I could get my chubby ass on the pole to begin with lol.
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  • PumpkinAndThePeanutPumpkinAndThePeanut member
    edited August 2014
    I think it would be fun - if you didn't think about what you were doing. If women weren't so objectified, and discriminated against, and taught that they were only good for providing pleasure to men, and it was just a girl, a pole and some good music...then it would be fun.

    Eta: I'm extra sensitive to this kind of stuff though. My dad is pretty chauvinistic, and I've worked in some inappropriate professional environments bordering on sexual harassment (not towards me personally, but to female co-workers, which still affected my own perception of my value as a female employee). And this was in the accounting field. Imagine if it was the fields of medicine, engineering, athletics, journalism etc.
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    PumpkinAndThePeanut said:

    I think it would be fun - if you didn't think about what you were doing. If women weren't so objectified, and discriminated against, and taught that they were only good for providing pleasure to men, and it was just a girl, a pole and some good music...then it would be fun.

    Eta: I'm extra sensitive to this kind of stuff though. My dad is pretty chauvinistic, and I've worked in some inappropriate professional environments bordering on sexual harassment (not towards me personally, but to female co-workers, which still affected my own perception of my value as a female employee). And this was in the accounting field. Imagine if it was the fields of medicine, engineering, athletics, journalism etc.

    I agree with you. I'm not a fan of the porn industry or stripping because of my religious beliefs but also from a sociological perspective it is so incredibly damaging to women. I feel that those industries promote the idea that women are subhuman and are only here to provide sexually enjoyment for others. I know many people disagree with me.
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  • TrulyBlessed22TrulyBlessed22 member
    allydncr said:
    PumpkinAndThePeanut said:
    I've got one today. Call me a prude, but I think pole dancing for exercise is anything but a harmless fun way to work out. I think it normalizes stripping and that's not ok, IMO. What've you got?
    <----- totally took a pole dancing class, while 4 months pregnant. Wasn't even a class based on exercise! The instructor actually emphasized that it wasn't about dancing for a man - it was about doing something that made you feel sexy and powerful, whether you were doing it at home by yourself or for your SO.  
    Ha! Mine wasn't an exercise one either but turned out to be a great exercise.  I agree - I did feel sexy!
     


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  • PumpkinAndThePeanutPumpkinAndThePeanut member
    ^ I don't get the powerful part. Unless being wanted sexually is giving you power, which doesn't sit well with me. I know I'm over-analyzing it.

    I'm not judging, to each their own, truly. And I get the part about doing it just for your DH. I think I'd still be uncomfortable that my DH found it sexy though (and I'm sure mine still would, even though he is in NO way chauvinistic). I'm a prude.
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  • LolalipsyLolalipsy member
    edited August 2014
    PumpkinAndThePeanut said:

    I've got one today.

    Call me a prude, but I think pole dancing for exercise is anything but a harmless fun way to work out. I think it normalizes stripping and that's not ok, IMO.

    What've you got?

    I did it and LOVED it. It was really hard and challenging and I was often bruised to bits but it was good fun. The pole dancing teacher was (or rather is also) a senior university lecturer in women's sexual health and a strong woman's advocate so it never felt degrading. Plus she never made it sexual just cheeky and fun, nothing like stripping. If my friend would do it with me again I would go back (I'm lazy so I need a working out buddy).

    My next quest is trapeze!

    My UO is that I am absolutely ok with drivers that cut in. In fact when I see someone scooting around I let them in.

    Eta: because I can't spell pfft.



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  • PumpkinAndThePeanutPumpkinAndThePeanut member
    edited August 2014
    And come on, people, someone else has to have a UO! :)

    Eta: ah, Lola does.
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  • LolalipsyLolalipsy member
    @maymomNY‌ ah I wonder who that is. I've been wondering how hard it is.



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  • huzzahuzzahuzzahuzza member
    I don't follow bumpies on Pinterest but I pin the crap out of that stuff but I've never done it. I just want to!!!
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  • Boo0512Boo0512 member
    I think temperatures above 75 degrees are miserable. Good thing I live in Minnesota! I'm really over our 80+ degree weather, bring on Fall!
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  • PumpkinAndThePeanutPumpkinAndThePeanut member
    SpankingShank said:

    Porn and stripping don't bother me in the slightest.
    If a woman is VOLUNTARILY taking off her clothes for money, or having sex then it's her choice.
    My issue is with children and women being forced into the sex industry.

    It's all related though. Women and girls are forced into it because it's big business with money to be made (by a man or a madam). The voluntary ones are just contributing to the demand and perpetuating the cycle.
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  • PumpkinAndThePeanutPumpkinAndThePeanut member
    huzzahuzza said:

    I just thought of another one. Dogs should not be allowed in the front seat of a car! What a distraction! !!

    My dog rarely rides in the car, but when he does he often sits on the console between the front seats. It's terribly unsafe, and I don't like it. But he won't stay in the back and he freaks out when I try to put a seat belt harness thing on. He HATES the car.
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    SpankingShank said:

    Porn and stripping don't bother me in the slightest.
    If a woman is VOLUNTARILY taking off her clothes for money, or having sex then it's her choice.
    My issue is with children and women being forced into the sex industry.

    I get where you are coming from but I think a lot of the women in these industries don't really WANT to do it. I think many are desperate for the money. I do realize they are still making the choice to do it. They could go work a minimum wage job.
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  • PumpkinAndThePeanutPumpkinAndThePeanut member
    Oh, I agree it's her choice. I am not judging. My UO is strictly that I think stripping and the sex industry is harmful to women and that we shouldn't normalize it by calling it "exercise" or "empowering."
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  • Boo0512Boo0512 member
    ^that's a good point. My feeling is this, if my DD ended up in porn or became a stripper, I'd be devastated. I guess to me that means I don't want that life for anyone.
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    allydncr said:


    PumpkinAndThePeanut said:

    ^ I don't get the powerful part. Unless being wanted sexually is giving you power, which doesn't sit well with me. I know I'm over-analyzing it.

    I'm not judging, to each their own, truly. And I get the part about doing it just for your DH. I think I'd still be uncomfortable that my DH found it sexy though (and I'm sure mine still would, even though he is in NO way chauvinistic). I'm a prude.


    I see the powerful part being more about having confidence and being comfortable in your own body. The class I took was literally just dancing, there was no stripping involved. But, I was a dancer for years too, so to me I just see it as another form of dance. 


    Same here too!

    For my bachelorette party I wanted to go to a pole dancing class but we weren't able to for whatever reason. So for my bridal shower my sister got me an at home pole kit. I haven't used it to this day and it has been 5 years. But I have taken 2 pole classes and they were so much fun!

    I don't see pole technique classes as being degrading to women.

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    allydncr said:




    I see the powerful part being more about having confidence and being comfortable in your own body.  

    That makes sense.
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    PumpkinAndThePeanut said:
    I just thought of another one. Dogs should not be allowed in the front seat of a car! What a distraction! !!
    My dog rarely rides in the car, but when he does he often sits on the console between the front seats. It's terribly unsafe, and I don't like it. But he won't stay in the back and he freaks out when I try to put a seat belt harness thing on. He HATES the car.
    That I get. It's the people that drive around with their pooch in their laps that drive me bonkers.  Those are probably also the types of people that claim that their dog is their baby. I don't drive around with my baby in my lap!!!! (my SIL does this and it drives me crazy)
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    missk0411 said:


    3timemom said:

    I think school should go year round.

    We have some year round options here, and I am already seriously thinking about them.


    oh I have always agreed with this.
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    missk0411 said:


    allydncr said:


    missk0411 said:


    3timemom said:

    I think school should go year round.

    We have some year round options here, and I am already seriously thinking about them.

    As a parent I would be all for it, but I LIVED for summer vacation as a kid! Though I suppose that most of the schools that go "year round" just have vacations at different times during the year. I'd rather have just one big vacation to worry about getting child care for, than many smaller vacations to try and arrange things for.


    Here they still get about 5-6 weeks over the summer and then about 3 2-3 week mini breaks scattered throughout the rest of the year.  I was thinking it would be easier for child care in that we could do an off season vacation (Disney in October!), have grandparents cover a week, and maybe not have trouble with getting time off of work. 


    That's what I'm talkin' 'bout!!! I student taught in New Zealand and that's how it was arranged and I loved it. AND their summer vacation was over Christmas (cuz that's their summer) so their school year followed the real year and made it less confusing to talk about.
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  • caden1206caden1206 member
    I use to wish they had year round until my son started having homework and projects. Summer break is for me too...again.
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  • caden1206caden1206 member
    Here's one...

    I don't think kids should have homework. My grandmother, who was an educator, use to say "that if you did your job in the classroom they wouldn't have to take it home". I am not an educator so I can't make such a bold comment, but as a parent I do wish we could just have the time after school for family stuff.
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    BananaBoat05 said:

    ^^I am a teacher and rarely assign homework. But this comment rubs me the wrong way. I have 150 students and 55 minute class periods. It's impossible for me to cover the entire curriculum with so little instructional time. Our classes are so short because our schools get next to no funding in AZ. If I do assign homework, it's not because I can't do my job.

    Eta: this was directed at @caden1206‌ comment

    I was repeating something my grandmother said. As a parent I don't think I am wrong for wanting the time after school for our family.

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  • caden1206caden1206 member
    Of course it is a parents job to help educate, but those lessons don't have to be in the form of homework. I can teach my children in other ways and support their teachers through practical application in every day life (for now). Unfortunately, a lot of my son's homework seems to be busy work. Since I am not the teacher I just tell him to do and we move on. He will be in sixth grade this year, so I have seen years of the same stuff. It just isn't my place or personality to challenge the teacher assigning it, but ya I will say I don't like it here.
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  • BananaLettuceBananaLettuce member
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    I guess my UO is that, in general, I do feel suicide is incredibly selfish. However, I think when mental illness and substance abuse is involved it completely distorts the sufferer's ability to make rational decisions.

    Maybe I'm wrong, I haven't done the research, but I think a significant amount of suicides probably happen when the sufferer is under the influence of something and not in their right mind.

    I also think when dealing with celebrity suicide, the media should respect the deceased and their families and stay out of it. I think a lot of times the media pries into the situation in the name of "raising awareness," but ends of glamourizing the horrible act of suicide instead.
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  • LolalipsyLolalipsy member
    Here's a good programme on manic depression if anyone is interested. It's called the secret life of the manic depressive by Stephen Fry.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rGDl6-lyfMY



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