@agsgrrl I wouldn't resort to name calling but in my head I'll be thinking wtf is wrong with that person? On tb when people call someone out, it's usually matter of fact, somewhat polite, a little snarky, which is exactly how I'd react irl. And then very nice if the OP responds thoughtfully and apologizes. It's usually when the op comes back guns blazing that serious snark starts and I think that's warranted. Maybe you're more sensitive to the opinions of strangers and that's why you liked Jennamariemartinez's post about the board being too mean, I dunno.
@danisgossipgirl Oh yeah I am just sensitive in general I was going to add that to my last comment but it was getting long winded as it was. I also agree that it gets too much when the response is defensive & extra snarky. I didn't necessarily think this board is mean I "clapped" because I agree with how petty disagreeing on social media gets. I actually rather enjoy this board.
I think it snowballs a bit too. It's just a thing with forums. If a lot of people are posting at once, we can't even see that the same point has been made 10 times which makes it look more like a dog pile than it probably is.
That and it's hard to get across tone of voice online. I don't read the snark with as much hate as I think a lot of the more sensitive posters do. Also it took a lot of time on social media sites (I do a lot of networking and event planning) to get over this natural reaction:
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@ColeyCannoli add pregnancy hormonal sensitivity to it, where crying over a lightbulb going out isn't unheard of. ( Ps the cure to all of it is to sit on theoatmeal.com to read all the other funnies
My uo I hate when parents only offer their kids "kid foods" like chicken fingers Mac and cheese and hot dogs. I mean people that exclusively limit what they feed their kids to things like this. If you always gave then real foods they'd eat it bc it's all they know. Of course your now 7 year old wont eat real chicken breast just chicken nuggets bc at 7 this is the 1st time you're giving it to them. Makes me insane! I have friends like this and I just don't get it.
My uo I hate when parents only offer their kids "kid foods" like chicken fingers Mac and cheese and hot dogs. I mean people that exclusively limit what they feed their kids to things like this. If you always gave then real foods they'd eat it bc it's all they know. Of course your now 7 year old wont eat real chicken breast just chicken nuggets bc at 7 this is the 1st time you're giving it to them. Makes me insane! I have friends like this and I just don't get it.
And pardon my French but most of that food is so full of shit that none of us should be eating...
My uo I hate when parents only offer their kids "kid foods" like chicken fingers Mac and cheese and hot dogs. I mean people that exclusively limit what they feed their kids to things like this. If you always gave then real foods they'd eat it bc it's all they know. Of course your now 7 year old wont eat real chicken breast just chicken nuggets bc at 7 this is the 1st time you're giving it to them. Makes me insane! I have friends like this and I just don't get it.
And pardon my French but most of that food is so full of shit that none of us should be eating...
Couldn't agree more! And so many people feed these to there kids almost exclusively at a time when their bodies really need the good stuff! Same with "fruit drinks" that are nothing but sugar and the canned fruits in syrup! Gross!
My uo I hate when parents only offer their kids "kid foods" like chicken fingers Mac and cheese and hot dogs. I mean people that exclusively limit what they feed their kids to things like this. If you always gave then real foods they'd eat it bc it's all they know. Of course your now 7 year old wont eat real chicken breast just chicken nuggets bc at 7 this is the 1st time you're giving it to them. Makes me insane! I have friends like this and I just don't get it.
And pardon my French but most of that food is so full of shit that none of us should be eating...
OMG 100% YES My SO almost 20 and does not eat anything except nuggets, burgers, and fries. I have been to dinner at their house and she makes him separate foods. Really?? His little brother is the same way. She makes tilapia for herself and the boys mac n cheese. Now he lives with me and I have to do groceries for this punk.
I have offered (and still offer) my toddler everything under the sun. Everything we eat. He drinks 2% milk, 100% fruit/veg juice blend, and water. You know the only things he'll eat reliably, though? Mac and Cheese, turkey franks, corn, pasta, chicken nuggets, French fries (baked at home, usually), yogurt, cereal, waffles, pancakes, grapes, applesauce, melon and goldfish or Cheez-It's at snack time. Sometimes cheese pizza. That's the diet.
He doesn't like most veggies (including the more nutritious sweet potato baked fries I offer), and he hasn't condescended to eat meats since they stopped coming out of a jar. We've tried sauces, no sauces-- whatever you can think of. He's high on the height chart and much lower on weight, so I don't let him opt out of more than one meal daily; I make the meal I know he'll eat. I'm genuinely not sure what else I can do; I'm not comfortable trying to force my hand more than once daily.
It's one thing to never offer the good stuff, but as a parent who routinely does and watches her child decline meals because of it, sometimes I just take the easy calories and avoid the fight and guilt of repeated missed meals.
But that is A+ effort. At least you try!
My parents used to tell me santa would not come if I didn't eat my broccoli and that I wouldn't be pretty if I did not eat tomatoes (my parents have questionable tactics). I ended up chowing broccoli all the days and still to this day love it. But I have made no progress with the tomatoes. Sorry mom and dad I guess I will just be ugly lol.
I have offered (and still offer) my toddler everything under the sun. Everything we eat. He drinks 2% milk, 100% fruit/veg juice blend, and water. You know the only things he'll eat reliably, though? Mac and Cheese, turkey franks, corn, pasta, chicken nuggets, French fries (baked at home, usually), yogurt, cereal, waffles, pancakes, grapes, applesauce, melon and goldfish or Cheez-It's at snack time. Sometimes cheese pizza. That's the diet.
He doesn't like most veggies (including the more nutritious sweet potato baked fries I offer), and he hasn't condescended to eat meats since they stopped coming out of a jar. We've tried sauces, no sauces-- whatever you can think of. He's high on the height chart and much lower on weight, so I don't let him opt out of more than one meal daily; I make the meal I know he'll eat. I'm genuinely not sure what else I can do; I'm not comfortable trying to force my hand more than once daily.
It's one thing to never offer the good stuff, but as a parent who routinely does and watches her child decline meals because of it, sometimes I just take the easy calories and avoid the fight and guilt of repeated missed meals.
Oh yeah totally get that he's got the goods in there too. I have lived with people who never made any attempt at real food. Also refused to not feed LO cheese (that constipated her royaly!) because their kid liked it and they could always give the kiddo Miralax X_X
My uo I hate when parents only offer their kids "kid foods" like chicken fingers Mac and cheese and hot dogs. I mean people that exclusively limit what they feed their kids to things like this. If you always gave then real foods they'd eat it bc it's all they know. Of course your now 7 year old wont eat real chicken breast just chicken nuggets bc at 7 this is the 1st time you're giving it to them. Makes me insane! I have friends like this and I just don't get it.
Agreed! I just read It's Not About the Broccoli which talks about this prob a lot. Recommended!
Baby GIRL born 12/11/14!!
MC @ 8 wks 7/6/13 - ectopic @ 6 wks 12/28/13
In loving memory of sweet baby HP, and all our angel babies. Forever in our hearts.
@Ainslie325 I feel you with the a hole picky toddler-ness. The kid will eat certain things consistently then all of a sudden turn her nose up to her faves and eat a plate full of random meals like seafood soup, lentils, lamb shank, or Moroccan meatballs. She always has me scratching my head. They love to keep us on out toes at all times!
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BFP#2-11/1/11 Due 7/8/12 Born 6/30/12
Oops we did it again... BFP 03/23/14 Due 12/6/14 Nora Born 11/23/14
@Ainslie325 I feel you with the a hole picky toddler-ness. The kid will eat certain things consistently then all of a sudden turn her nose up to her faves and eat a plate full of random meals like seafood soup, lentils, lamb shank, or Moroccan meatballs. She always has me scratching my head. They love to keep us on out toes at all times!
Well now I'm hungry and have to look up recipes for Moroccan meatballs...
My uo I hate when parents only offer their kids "kid foods" like chicken fingers Mac and cheese and hot dogs. I mean people that exclusively limit what they feed their kids to things like this. If you always gave then real foods they'd eat it bc it's all they know. Of course your now 7 year old wont eat real chicken breast just chicken nuggets bc at 7 this is the 1st time you're giving it to them. Makes me insane! I have friends like this and I just don't get it.
I hate this too!!! Drives me nuts. My parents had a rule growing up that we had to at least TRY every single thing they put in front of us before we turned our noses up at it. And my parents are adventurous people when it comes to food, so we had to try a lot of random foods many people don't try until theyre adults.
I have offered (and still offer) my toddler everything under the sun. Everything we eat. He drinks 2% milk, 100% fruit/veg juice blend, and water. You know the only things he'll eat reliably, though? Mac and Cheese, turkey franks, corn, pasta, chicken nuggets, French fries (baked at home, usually), yogurt, cereal, waffles, pancakes, grapes, applesauce, melon and goldfish or Cheez-It's at snack time. Sometimes cheese pizza. That's the diet.
He doesn't like most veggies (including the more nutritious sweet potato baked fries I offer), and he hasn't condescended to eat meats since they stopped coming out of a jar. We've tried sauces, no sauces-- whatever you can think of. He's high on the height chart and much lower on weight, so I don't let him opt out of more than one meal daily; I make the meal I know he'll eat. I'm genuinely not sure what else I can do; I'm not comfortable trying to force my hand more than once daily.
It's one thing to never offer the good stuff, but as a parent who routinely does and watches her child decline meals because of it, sometimes I just take the easy calories and avoid the fight and guilt of repeated missed meals.
Our toddler is the same way. He used to love green beans, cucumbers, squash, broccoli - all the yummy garden goodness. Now he won't eat anything green and barely touches anything that comes from the ground except potatoes. He still loves his fruit, and I've been really sneaky about hiding spinach and other things in his food, but for the most part, he would rather eat fruit and cheese (which doesn't constipate him, thankfully) He's pretty high on the charts for height and weight, so we are careful, but sometimes you just give in and make the mac and cheese. My husband has a cousin who didn't eat anything but pizza rolls from age 2 to age 10. Because they don't make him try anything else. My son tries everything we have and decides whether or not he likes it. One day he does, one day he doesn't.
One thing that may be questionable - if I have something I know he likes (blueberries are the current favorite) I will tell him "eat two green beans and you can have another blueberry." I know bribery isn't the best tactic, but it works.
Love this thread. I work in Immigration Law and see the hardships, heartaches, and bureaucratic tangles mess that is our immigration system. It is a far from a logical system and its usually the poor, hardworking, and uneducated that get the most unfair treatment. So many people just want a better life for their kids and will do anything for them, something, as mothers to be, I think we can identify with! And the words "illegals" makes my skin crawl, especially from my very narrow minded in-laws!!
Okay my UO is, I absolutely can not stand when women announce their pregnancies so early. My friend from another base is 5 weeks pregnant, has already publicly announced her pregnancy, and is constantly posting on Facebook asking about nursery ideas, showing off furniture she's already bought like a crib and dresser, etc. it bothers the HELL out of me because I have a history of miscarriages as late as 13 weeks and I just don't want her to get her hopes up. I tried explaining to her that her risk of miscarriage is still extremely high, but she got all offended and acts like a complete bitch now, when I ask her how she's feeling.
Okay my UO is, I absolutely can not stand when women announce their pregnancies so early. My friend from another base is 5 weeks pregnant, has already publicly announced her pregnancy, and is constantly posting on Facebook asking about nursery ideas, showing off furniture she's already bought like a crib and dresser, etc. it bothers the HELL out of me because I have a history of miscarriages as late as 13 weeks and I just don't want her to get her hopes up. I tried explaining to her that her risk of miscarriage is still extremely high, but she got all offended and acts like a complete bitch now, when I ask her how she's feeling.
Just because you had a loss doesn't mean she will, she is excited let her shout it from the roof tops if she wants. And in your first pregnancy would you have liked someone to tell you you had a risk of having a miscarriage? That is slightly insensitive of you, maybe you meant it in a cautious way, I have had 3 losses and if someone had said it to me even now I would have been hurt and shocked by it.
Losses, actually. More than one. And yes, I would have loved to know about how high the risk was. I was just warning her. I was not insensitive, I just let her know that it's possible and to just be careful. She was with me for one of them, she saw me go through the pain and the heartbreak.
BootsAndPants said:
I don't usually participate and this may be too political, but it has been really bothering me that people have no problem calling the children (or anyone for that matter) that have crossed the border into the USA "illegals." I think this term is dehumanizing and it makes me very sad to hear people so quick to judge and condemn people without taking the time to appreciate what a challenging situation this really is. I guess flame away.
It's exactly what they are. It's not a term for fun, for political reasons, for dehumanizing them. They are illegally in our country. We have procedures for admitting people into this country, to control the population, control crime rates, etc. If they are seeking refuge in our country due to poor conditions in their own country, there are procedures for that too.
*Said goodbye to our angel baby July 30. 2014. only had him for 21 weeks in my belly, missing him every day*
Okay my UO is, I absolutely can not stand when women announce their pregnancies so early. My friend from another base is 5 weeks pregnant, has already publicly announced her pregnancy, and is constantly posting on Facebook asking about nursery ideas, showing off furniture she's already bought like a crib and dresser, etc. it bothers the HELL out of me because I have a history of miscarriages as late as 13 weeks and I just don't want her to get her hopes up. I tried explaining to her that her risk of miscarriage is still extremely high, but she got all offended and acts like a complete bitch now, when I ask her how she's feeling.
Just because you had a loss doesn't mean she will, she is excited let her shout it from the roof tops if she wants. And in your first pregnancy would you have liked someone to tell you you had a risk of having a miscarriage? That is slightly insensitive of you, maybe you meant it in a cautious way, I have had 3 losses and if someone had said it to me even now I would have been hurt and shocked by it.
Losses, actually. More than one. And yes, I would have loved to know about how high the risk was. I was just warning her. I was not insensitive, I just let her know that it's possible and to just be careful. She was with me for one of them, she saw me go through the pain and the heartbreak.
I'll admit to being overly sensitive as a PgAL myself but I would be annoyed too. I know she's excited but if she had been there for my painful, heartbreaking miscarriage but still assumed that it could never happen to her... I dunno, that's pretty low to not at least listen to the advice with compassion.
In memory of the baby Hufflepuff and all the angel babies of D14
My UO: I am so sick of everyone and their mother selling 31, beach body, premier jewelry, jamberry, etc etc!!!! Sorry if anyone sells, but I get messages weekly for friends parties or trying to get me to buy from another friend.
I'll buy my own jewelry, protein powder, & nail polish that isn't crazy overpriced so that you can make a quick profit...But thanks anyway! Ughhh
I'd like to rant off of this: I Hate it when companies use religion as a selling point. 31, premier....
*Said goodbye to our angel baby July 30. 2014. only had him for 21 weeks in my belly, missing him every day*
Okay my UO is, I absolutely can not stand when women announce their pregnancies so early. My friend from another base is 5 weeks pregnant, has already publicly announced her pregnancy, and is constantly posting on Facebook asking about nursery ideas, showing off furniture she's already bought like a crib and dresser, etc. it bothers the HELL out of me because I have a history of miscarriages as late as 13 weeks and I just don't want her to get her hopes up. I tried explaining to her that her risk of miscarriage is still extremely high, but she got all offended and acts like a complete bitch now, when I ask her how she's feeling.
Just because you had a loss doesn't mean she will, she is excited let her shout it from the roof tops if she wants. And in your first pregnancy would you have liked someone to tell you you had a risk of having a miscarriage? That is slightly insensitive of you, maybe you meant it in a cautious way, I have had 3 losses and if someone had said it to me even now I would have been hurt and shocked by it.
Losses, actually. More than one. And yes, I would have loved to know about how high the risk was. I was just warning her. I was not insensitive, I just let her know that it's possible and to just be careful. She was with me for one of them, she saw me go through the pain and the heartbreak.
I'll admit to being overly sensitive as a PgAL myself but I would be annoyed too. I know she's excited but if she had been there for my painful, heartbreaking miscarriage but still assumed that it could never happen to her... I dunno, that's pretty low to not at least listen to the advice with compassion.
Exactly. I just think it's such a sensitive time, and it should be kept private until the risk was lower. But she hasn't suffered a loss like that, so she won't understand. Basically all I'm saying is that I would hate for her to have to go through that after she already got SO attached and let everyone in on it. Then she has to not only deal with the pain of a loss, but also having to deal with telling everyone what happened, and having to listen to everyone's insensitive comments about it.
Okay my UO is, I absolutely can not stand when women announce their pregnancies so early. My friend from another base is 5 weeks pregnant, has already publicly announced her pregnancy, and is constantly posting on Facebook asking about nursery ideas, showing off furniture she's already bought like a crib and dresser, etc. it bothers the HELL out of me because I have a history of miscarriages as late as 13 weeks and I just don't want her to get her hopes up. I tried explaining to her that her risk of miscarriage is still extremely high, but she got all offended and acts like a complete bitch now, when I ask her how she's feeling.
Just because you had a loss doesn't mean she will, she is excited let her shout it from the roof tops if she wants. And in your first pregnancy would you have liked someone to tell you you had a risk of having a miscarriage? That is slightly insensitive of you, maybe you meant it in a cautious way, I have had 3 losses and if someone had said it to me even now I would have been hurt and shocked by it.
Losses, actually. More than one. And yes, I would have loved to know about how high the risk was. I was just warning her. I was not insensitive, I just let her know that it's possible and to just be careful. She was with me for one of them, she saw me go through the pain and the heartbreak.
@ElizaRae92 I have to agree that it isn't kind to warn a pregnant woman about risk of loss, especially if there is nothing she can do about it except worry. It seems to me like telling someone: you know, a big rig could careen out of control and crash into you while you're driving today; if she's already wearing her seat belt and on the road, the warning of dire but not likely disaster just makes her scared.
I have also had multiple losses, and it can make me totally angry sometimes to see pregnant ladies who are blissful and naive about their pregnancies. I'm so jealous sometimes! And I know that it is hard that most people don't talk about miscarriage and loss much, but I don't think when someone is newly pregnant is the right time to bring it up (unless she asks). I also think, if your friend knew about your painful losses, it is insensitive of her to bring up her pregnancy to you so much.
Baby GIRL born 12/11/14!!
MC @ 8 wks 7/6/13 - ectopic @ 6 wks 12/28/13
In loving memory of sweet baby HP, and all our angel babies. Forever in our hearts.
Okay my UO is, I absolutely can not stand when women announce their pregnancies so early. My friend from another base is 5 weeks pregnant, has already publicly announced her pregnancy, and is constantly posting on Facebook asking about nursery ideas, showing off furniture she's already bought like a crib and dresser, etc. it bothers the HELL out of me because I have a history of miscarriages as late as 13 weeks and I just don't want her to get her hopes up. I tried explaining to her that her risk of miscarriage is still extremely high, but she got all offended and acts like a complete bitch now, when I ask her how she's feeling.
Just because you had a loss doesn't mean she will, she is excited let her shout it from the roof tops if she wants. And in your first pregnancy would you have liked someone to tell you you had a risk of having a miscarriage? That is slightly insensitive of you, maybe you meant it in a cautious way, I have had 3 losses and if someone had said it to me even now I would have been hurt and shocked by it.
Losses, actually. More than one. And yes, I would have loved to know about how high the risk was. I was just warning her. I was not insensitive, I just let her know that it's possible and to just be careful. She was with me for one of them, she saw me go through the pain and the heartbreak.
I'll admit to being overly sensitive as a PgAL myself but I would be annoyed too. I know she's excited but if she had been there for my painful, heartbreaking miscarriage but still assumed that it could never happen to her... I dunno, that's pretty low to not at least listen to the advice with compassion.
I have a coworker who just announced at around 5 weeks too and she did announce to fb and her (hair) clients. It doesn't annoy me but it makes me nervous for her. A handful of years back I watched another stylist coworker go through that twice in about 6 months and she had to rehash it almost daily for nearly a year because sometimes you don't see people for month and months. That hurt my heart I can't imagine how it was for her. She does have a kindergartner and a toddler now There's a slight language barrier with the current coworker where I just don't know how to word it without coming off cold, so I am just going to let it be.
I just want to say that I HAVE had a loss, as well as I fully knew the risks.
I also struggled with infertility for both of my children, 4 years for the first and 8 years for the second.
My friends were always super supportive in our infertility journey, as we were very open about it.
If I simply stopped posting about it, they would have KNOWN, anyway.
I wanted to shout it from the rooftops, and if I had a loss and not yet told, I would have shared that as well because I love my friends and family, and I would need their support.
So, while I was excited and told right away, I never for one second thought I was safe, and telling them wouldn't change that.
Every single day I woke up, I told myself "TODAY, I am pregnant, and I am fucking thrilled"
I hate feeling like I may have been judged for my choice. If it makes other people uncvomfortable, then by all means wait to announce, but don't make that choice for others, you know?
Me personally, I've always announced very early. My view is, the baby is a baby no matter what happens. I would much rather have my friends rejoice with me and, god forbid something happens, mourn with me as well. BUT, that is just me. I do not judge anyone how or when they announce. Me actually personally, I have never had a loss. My little sister died at 24 weeks when I was 10 and I had to go to school and tell all my friends she had died. I can only relate to loss pain as a sibling, not as a mother. Grief is grief to me though.
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Couldn't agree more! And so many people feed these to there kids almost exclusively at a time when their bodies really need the good stuff! Same with "fruit drinks" that are nothing but sugar and the canned fruits in syrup! Gross!
Married: 5/21/05 **~** Emery Aylin 6/30/12
BFP#1-11/5/10- Surgery for ectopic pregnancy 11/15/10 BFP#2-11/1/11 Due 7/8/12 Born 6/30/12
Oops we did it again... BFP 03/23/14 Due 12/6/14 Nora Born 11/23/14
I hate this too!!! Drives me nuts. My parents had a rule growing up that we had to at least TRY every single thing they put in front of us before we turned our noses up at it. And my parents are adventurous people when it comes to food, so we had to try a lot of random foods many people don't try until theyre adults.
It is a far from a logical system and its usually the poor, hardworking, and uneducated that get the most unfair treatment. So many people just want a better life for their kids and will do anything for them, something, as mothers to be, I think we can identify with! And the words "illegals" makes my skin crawl, especially from my very narrow minded in-laws!!
It's exactly what they are. It's not a term for fun, for political reasons, for dehumanizing them. They are illegally in our country. We have procedures for admitting people into this country, to control the population, control crime rates, etc. If they are seeking refuge in our country due to poor conditions in their own country, there are procedures for that too.
I have also had multiple losses, and it can make me totally angry sometimes to see pregnant ladies who are blissful and naive about their pregnancies. I'm so jealous sometimes! And I know that it is hard that most people don't talk about miscarriage and loss much, but I don't think when someone is newly pregnant is the right time to bring it up (unless she asks). I also think, if your friend knew about your painful losses, it is insensitive of her to bring up her pregnancy to you so much.
There's a slight language barrier with the current coworker where I just don't know how to word it without coming off cold, so I am just going to let it be.