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ballygirl · May 2014

ugh - TB ate my paragraphs and will not let me edit. sorry about that....

Kittymom6 · May 2014

How did the rest of the night go, @ballygirl‌?

Eta: we posted at almost the same time. I'm glad to hear it went well!

ballygirl · May 2014

wedding06 said:

Question about pacifiers- The pacifier has become a problem overnight where we have to replace it multiple times. We use it to get him to go to sleep for naps as well. Is it possible to not use the pacifier for MOTN but use it to put them to bed (reduces risk of SIDS)? Or even just use it when awake and needing soothing? Or is the paci an all or nothing kind of thing?

I was kind of wondering this too. I use the pacis a lot during the day when they get cranky or when they are both having meltdowns at the same or if I need to tend to one for awhile for some reason (diaper change, clothes change etc) and the other is getting anxious. Also, they love playing with them. I think I am going to stop using them at night and hopefully for naps but will continue to use them during the day for cranky periods. Hopefully I can phase them out this summer.

LittleBabyG2013 · May 2014

LO has been waking up every 2hrs for about 3 weeks now. She stopped taking the paci and cries when she wakes up until I give her the boob. She won't let me just pat her back and rock her to sleep. We tried CIO and she threw up a lot.
I've bought different pacifiers but she hasn't taken any of them.
We have been cosleeping again since this started and on Saturday we side car the crib to our bed, to give us more room and I was hoping she sleep better on her mattress.

I don't know what to do now.

edaire · May 2014

@ballygirl‌ I thought about you last night when I was putting DS to sleep (in the most non creepy way). I was hoping it would go well. Good job momma! Remember, hiccups are to be expected. All part of the learning process for your girls. Please keep us posted!

stephl3055 · May 2014

wedding06 said:

Question about pacifiers- The pacifier has become a problem overnight where we have to replace it multiple times. We use it to get him to go to sleep for naps as well. Is it possible to not use the pacifier for MOTN but use it to put them to bed (reduces risk of SIDS)? Or even just use it when awake and needing soothing? Or is the paci an all or nothing kind of thing?

It used to be an all or nothing for LO but she's mostly weaned herself off of it. Once we ditched the swaddle and RnP, we started putting her in the crib to sleep on her stomach and she didn't really need her pacifier. She would play with it and we found it easier for her to fall asleep faster if we didn't give it to her at all. Sometimes she'll suck on her thumb for a few seconds, but she never falls asleep with it in her mouth or sucks on it throughout the night. We do the same for her naps, and it's been about week since we've used it at all.

ballygirl · May 2014

Ferber update (I know you are all waiting with baited breath...) Well, last night was night 3 and things seem to be going pretty well for Lizzy. She went down without crying at all. She did wake up around midnight and cried for a long time, so we ended up giving her a bottle and after that she slept through until 6:15! yay! The pedi told us we should try to stop the MOTN bottle and so we were trying, but I think we're just going to wait on that. If she's only waking for one a night, that's fine with me for now and we can phase it out later.

Haley, on the other hand, is still waking up quite a bit and generally doesn't cry too long but we're not really seeing an improvement yet - about 5 minutes crying at bedtime and about 10-15 or so for her MOTN wakings. Sometimes I feel like when I go in to check on her, it makes it worse. If her crying is sort medium intensity, it will shoot up off the charts as soon as I go in. So I'm a little conflicted. I feel like by going in and checking on her at intervals, I am actually prolonging the crying because she gets herself all worked up again. But, I hate to just leave her there without checking on her at all.

Also, I accidentally checked in on the wrong baby several times last night because I was confused about who was crying.

Chrisanna0508 · May 2014

@ballygirl‌ DS was like that and it would make it so much worse when we would check on him. We ended up stopping the checks and it has been much better. I have a video monitor so I can look at him to make sure he's ok and have also gotten better at reading his cries so I know if I do need to go comfort/feed. Might be something to consider.

ballygirl · May 2014

We have a video monitor for Lizzy in the nursery but not for Haley, whose crib is currently in our bedroom (we've been sleeping in the guest room during this whole thing). Last night I only went in after the timed interval if the crying was really intense, otherwise I would let her go and see if it just petered out. Tomorrow we are moving her (Haley) crib back into the nursery with Lizzy, so then I think the video monitor will be able to see both cribs which will be easier for us to gage what is going on.

licia2210 · May 2014

MangoMama82 said:

So, sleep training was going well, and now we have a bit of regression the last 2 nights. How often does regression happen? How long does it usually last?
@huntjul‌ This was mentioned in my book. It's fairly typical. They said the clinical term is "extinction burst". It should just be the 'curtain call' of her old sleeping behavior, and in a night or two she should be back to sleeping well and putting herself down

So when they wake up all the sudden and are whining or crying do we let them self soothe or is that sleep training? I have been feeding my son. He has been binkyless for 2 weeks now and the last two nights he is waking up around 1 or 2 am, eats and goes back to sleep. Im not sure if feeding him is starting a routine I dont want to continue. Any ideas?

huntjul · May 2014

licia2210 said:

MangoMama82 said:

So, sleep training was going well, and now we have a bit of regression the last 2 nights. How often does regression happen? How long does it usually last?
@huntjul‌ This was mentioned in my book. It's fairly typical. They said the clinical term is "extinction burst". It should just be the 'curtain call' of her old sleeping behavior, and in a night or two she should be back to sleeping well and putting herself down

So when they wake up all the sudden and are whining or crying do we let them self soothe or is that sleep training? I have been feeding my son. He has been binkyless for 2 weeks now and the last two nights he is waking up around 1 or 2 am, eats and goes back to sleep. Im not sure if feeding him is starting a routine I dont want to continue. Any ideas?

@licia2210 I feed if it's been >4 hrs since her last feed. If less, then I don't feed but soothe only. A 1-2am feed is still very normal for a baby this age, so I wouldn't cut it out.

So if she wakes up before 4 hrs is up, then I use other methods of soothing (replace a paci, rub her back, pick her up if she's upset, etc) but don't feed. This is because I was using the boob to pacify her and calm her, and she was relying on it so heavily that it was putting a huge burden on me. If she wakes, I don't go to her if she's just mildly fussy, but if she cries, I go to her regardless. I know some other moms who try to wait it out and let them soothe, but that's not what I personally do.

catycate · May 2014

@ballygirl‌ with both DS and now dd, we just throw a shit load of pacis in the crib. She has probably 8 in there. I've seen her patting around for one on the monitor and she always finds one! Just an idea!

ballygirl · May 2014

@catycate - we started doing that too. Haley actually found one the other morning and put it in her mouth. We are still partially swaddling - leaving one arm in and one arm out because they can't seem to settle when both arms are out but once we get them sleeping a little better we'll start leaving that other arm out and hopefully they'll be able to find the pacis a little better.

Marinowski · May 2014

How long do you let your LO cry before you give up and try a different day? We are trying to get her to sleep in her crib vs our bed. We are tired of trading sleeping on the couch. We did our bedtime routine and she has a full belly. She is going on 1 hour of crying in spite of me being there singing our bedtime song and patting her back. She has never been one to go down easily and i cant do drowsy but awake. I put her down as asleep as i do for naps. I have picked her up 1 time to settle her down a little. She naps in her crib ok during the day. I am out of ideas and ready to give up

Phalaenopsis · May 2014

Marinowski said:

How long do you let your LO cry before you give up and try a different day? We are trying to get her to sleep in her crib vs our bed. We are tired of trading sleeping on the couch. We did our bedtime routine and she has a full belly. She is going on 1 hour of crying in spite of me being there singing our bedtime song and patting her back. She has never been one to go down easily and i cant do drowsy but awake. I put her down as asleep as i do for naps. I have picked her up 1 time to settle her down a little. She naps in her crib ok during the day. I am out of ideas and ready to give up

Strangers on a message board should have no influence over your decision to continue sleep training or not. It sounds like its failing. I recommend knowing what you are doing before attempting it again.

Marinowski · May 2014

Phalaenopsis said:

Marinowski said:

How long do you let your LO cry before you give up and try a different day? We are trying to get her to sleep in her crib vs our bed. We are tired of trading sleeping on the couch. We did our bedtime routine and she has a full belly. She is going on 1 hour of crying in spite of me being there singing our bedtime song and patting her back. She has never been one to go down easily and i cant do drowsy but awake. I put her down as asleep as i do for naps. I have picked her up 1 time to settle her down a little. She naps in her crib ok during the day. I am out of ideas and ready to give up

Strangers on a message board should have no influence over your decision to continue sleep training or not. It sounds like its failing. I recommend knowing what you are doing before attempting it again.

Well I tried to know what I am doing. Right now she fights bedtime and it takes two hours to put her to sleep on spite of a routine . I can't bed share with her anymore at night for many reasons. I just need to get her to be able to sleep in her crib at night, since she naps fine in it. Read a few books. Ferber check ins didn't work. Gave it some time. I am not comfortable with extinction CIO. This is the next version of teaching her to sleep that I am comfortable with where I stay with her and soothe her until she falls asleep. Depending on which of the techniques I am going by it says keep trying for anywhere from 45 minutes to over an hour or more. Just thought I would ask if anyone had better success after a very rough night. Or anything else that they found helpful

ballygirl · May 2014

@Marinowski‌ there are many sleep training methods out there that all involve different crying thresholds. It's important to read the actual source material with whichever method you choose before you start. Did you read the whole Ferber book? Sometimes the reasons why it doesn't work are because of a sleep phase shift. If it always takes 45 minutes to get them to sleep, perhaps they are not ready at the time you think they are. Ferber discusses ways to gradually moves their sleep cycles if it is out of phase. We had this issue and had better luck with Ferber once we moved their bedtime a little later. Other things like their nap and eating schedules could also be interfering.

kimbo1216 · May 2014

@Marinowski‌ if you are going to slept train, you really need to commit fully for it to be sucessful. Tbh, if sounds like you only half committed before giving up and saying it just didn't work. I mean, what exactly didn't work? His long did you try it? Did you adjust interval checks as needed? Did you follow the plan correctly for at least 3-7 days before bowing out? One night won't cut it. One half-committed night especially won't. If you give up after x number of minutes/hours/whatever, you are training your kid to cry for that long because that is when you will get them. Then all that crying becomes for not.

But my honest opinion is that sleep training using CIO is not for you since it seems from what you've written here, you haven't really followed the plan.

If you go back to the OP, you will see links for other methods. You might try Good Night, Sleep Tight.

Good luck. Be consistent with whatever you choose that is the ONLY way you will know if that method wi actually work or not.

Kittymom6 · May 2014

@Marinowski‌, I'm sorry you're having a rough time. It would be helpful to know what you've researched and tried and for how long to have a better idea of what's not working for you.

I tried the Sleep Lady's Good Night, Sleep Tight method and the first night I stayed in DD's room to 3 hours, the second night for 2 hours, and the third night for 90 mins. DD fuss-cried for about 15 mins that first night, but then played for 2 hours 45 mins before I picked her up and rocked her to sleep. I decided I can't do that every night. We delayed sleep training for a couple of reasons (teething, planned trips, etc.), but I'm now reading Ferber and starting to work on some nap training. I think that @norbert5‌ had luck with the sleep lady method - am I making that up?

When you say you can't do drowsy but awake, what do you mean? Also, like Kimbo asked, how long did you try Ferber and what didn't work?

Marinowski · May 2014

To answer the sleepy but awake. I have never, since she was born been able to put her down to sleep anywhere unless she was totally out, she would wake up and cry until I picked her up. I tried the Ferber method for bed time for 3 bedtimes (I work evenings and am only home for 3 betimes in a row and my husband does the rest of the week). My husband tried the 4th night and nothing was getting any better so we gave up for a while. That was a week or 2 ago. We follow her sleepy cues and do a bedtime routine so that ideally she is asleep by 8pm. Last night was the 1st night of trying the 'soothe but not pick up routine'. I know it takes longer than 1 night. Once she falls asleep she is fine. I could nurse her to sleep but my husband can't and he needs to be able to get her to sleep in her crib too. I'm just hate it that she cries and I am feeling discouraged at having another long night of sobbing baby.

ballygirl · May 2014

@Marinowski - Have you tried moving her bedtime a bit later? One thing that resonated with me in the Ferber book was that he suggests putting them to bed and starting the sleep training (any method) at the time when they normally fall asleep, not the time when you usually put them down. So, with my twins, I was trying to follow their sleep cues and up until then, every book I had read, told me to put them down as soon as we see sleep cues and not let them stay up to late after that. So, we were putting them to bed around 7 - 7:30 which was when we would notice eye rubbing and a decrease in activity and yawning, and it always took forever to get them down. It was always a fight - crying and fussing. After I read Ferber, we started logging their sleep patterns and noticed that regardless of when they started to show sleep signals or how we got them to sleep, they usually didn't actually get to sleep until 8 or 8:30 pm, sometimes a bit later. So, when we started Ferber, we just kept them up until 8. They were pretty fussy and seemed overtired to me, but they went down a lot easier. The fight went from about an hour of crying (from both twins) to about 5-8 minutes of crying. I don't know, maybe just something to try.

MtnChickaD · May 2014

@azieber

Before we started sleep training my LO would only nap if he comfort nursed himself to sleep and then I had to hold him the entire time. We have gone from that to taking two solid naps in his crib everyday. What worked for us is 1) really watching for his cues and his in between nap intervals. Two hours after waking he starts to get cranky and begins rubbing his eyes, and again two-three hours after he wakes up from nap #1. When I see these signs I begin the nap protocol. 2) Nap protocol. I take LO into the nursery with the blinds shut, snuggle him in his "napping blanket*", sit in the glider and nurse him. When he stops actively sucking I let him comfort nurse for a couple minutes MAX. I then unlatch him, put him up on my shoulder to burp him and rub his back for a minute and then lay him down in his crib. If he seems unsettled I will give him a pacifier but usually he goes without. 3) We initially did some ferber-type check-ins and still do if he starts crying. The first couple days he took 10-20 minutes to fall asleep and now he usually falls asleep instantly or will talk/fuss for maybe ten minutes before passing out.

I guess the key for us was routine and planning naps instead of letting LO just accidentally fall asleep at the boob like I was doing. Good luck!

*It is a small loose knit blanket, it seems to help him know it's nap time. I check on him frequently and he only gets the blanket for naps, not at night.

ballygirl · May 2014

So - we've done 8 nights of Ferber now and while there is some improvement, it is not quite where I hoped it would be. The first couple nights were really good, and the girls seemed like they were responding to it, but now it seems like they are slipping back into their old patterns, or at least Lizzy is. The second and third night there was hardly any crying at bedtime and we were totally psyched but the last few nights its been about 12-15 minutes of crying again. We haven't done anything differently that I can think of.

I'm tracking their sleeping and eating patterns on an ap (because I am a nerd and love data) and it lets your graph their longest sleep interval for each night. When we started, both girls were waking up every 2 -3 hours at night and not able to go back to sleep. Lizzy seemed to respond to the Ferber very quickly. After that first night Lizzy went down easy and was sleeping from midnight - 5 or 6am without waking but over the last 5 days, her longest sleep interval has decreased gradually and the last couple nights, the longest interval she has slept was 2 1/2 hours - back where we started. Haley on the other hand, took awhile to respond to the Ferber training but has steadily increased her longest sleeping interval and has had at least one 4-5 hour stretch each night for the past 4 nights. So - it seems like Lizzy initially responded to it and then reverted back to her old ways and Haley maybe is doing a little better.

I'm a little confused by this and not sure what to do. I'm still waking up about 4-5 times a night with Lizzy and usually I just let her cry for awhile and she usually puts herself back down in less than 10 minutes (I capped our intervals at 10 -12 - 15 minute checks) but sometimes I still have to go in to do some check and consoles. Both girls are in the same room now, we moved them the 2nd day of training because we needed our spare bedroom back. Luckily Haley doesn't seem to wake unless Lizzy really goes on for a long time.

Anyone have any words of wisdom? advice?

Emilyraymond · May 2014

I have no words of wisdom or advice but I tried Ferber with dd. it worked great for a while. I laid her down awake (at around 8) and most nights she wouldn't fuss at all and not wake til between 2-3 am. But over the past few weeks, she's waking up again at around 10:30-11 which sucks because I'm really just getting in a good sleep cause I go to bed around 9:30-10. I'm not really sure what to do either. She's in her crib and does fine in there but I'm just exhausted so usually I revert to grabbing and and bringing her to bed with me.

She's had 4 ear infections in the last 3 months so im sure that has a lot to do with it. Pedi told me last week that when she's healthy from current ear infection, that she needs to learn to self sooth. I asked what she would do if her kid and she said let them fuss it out. Console if screaming/crying but otherwise, let them work it out. She said she waking up because it's becoming a habit, not that she is hungry. I'm gonna try it when she's not sick cause I'm just too tired and she's old enough, she shouldn't be waking up every 2-3 hrs at 7 mos old.

sleepy33 · May 2014

ballygirl said:

So - we've done 8 nights of Ferber now and while there is some improvement, it is not quite where I hoped it would be. The first couple nights were really good, and the girls seemed like they were responding to it, but now it seems like they are slipping back into their old patterns, or at least Lizzy is. The second and third night there was hardly any crying at bedtime and we were totally psyched but the last few nights its been about 12-15 minutes of crying again. We haven't done anything differently that I can think of.

I'm tracking their sleeping and eating patterns on an ap (because I am a nerd and love data) and it lets your graph their longest sleep interval for each night. When we started, both girls were waking up every 2 -3 hours at night and not able to go back to sleep. Lizzy seemed to respond to the Ferber very quickly. After that first night Lizzy went down easy and was sleeping from midnight - 5 or 6am without waking but over the last 5 days, her longest sleep interval has decreased gradually and the last couple nights, the longest interval she has slept was 2 1/2 hours - back where we started. Haley on the other hand, took awhile to respond to the Ferber training but has steadily increased her longest sleeping interval and has had at least one 4-5 hour stretch each night for the past 4 nights. So - it seems like Lizzy initially responded to it and then reverted back to her old ways and Haley maybe is doing a little better.

I'm a little confused by this and not sure what to do. I'm still waking up about 4-5 times a night with Lizzy and usually I just let her cry for awhile and she usually puts herself back down in less than 10 minutes (I capped our intervals at 10 -12 - 15 minute checks) but sometimes I still have to go in to do some check and consoles. Both girls are in the same room now, we moved them the 2nd day of training because we needed our spare bedroom back. Luckily Haley doesn't seem to wake unless Lizzy really goes on for a long time.

Anyone have any words of wisdom? advice?

Every time I read your posts, I think to myself that I don't know how in the world you're going to have them in the same room when they are this young. My kid wakes up when the damn garage door goes up and down, and that's with a sound machine in his room! I don't know how they both don't wake up when one does and cries/fusses. I'm not trying to tell you it's unreasonable to expect to have them both in one room, but... well, I don't know maybe I am? I dunno. That's just my totally inexperienced outsider's perspective on things. I am sure you have done way more research into this than I have, and you obviously know your kids best.

ballygirl · May 2014

@sleepy33‌

We'll see how it goes. Most twin moms I've talked to said the earlier you get hem sleeping together, the easier it is for them to acclimate to each other's sleeping noises.

they seem to be able to sleep through a lot of things. Like, they have no problem sleeping through the dog barking or my husband snoring and even each other's crying usually, but other things like creaky doors or floors wake them. They even slept through the smoke detector going off awhile ago. I think their MOTN wakings are not from any particular external stimulus, it's just the end of their sleep cycle and they wake up and have trouble going back down again.

Having them in the same room has made it much easier to keep them on the same schedule though, so that has been great. They now generally wake up naturally at about the same time which makes it easier for their naps and feedings to stay in synch during the day and we can put them down together at the same time at night.

Marinowski · May 2014

@ballygirl‌
Thanks for the advice. Tried it tonight and less than 5 minutes of fussing. So much better. Guess we were trying to get her to sleep way too early. She went to bed fine a

Kittymom6 · May 2014

@ballygirl‌, which app are you using?

I'm just starting to read Ferber during DD's naps, so I don't have any advice to offer. I remember seeing on here that there may be some regression as they let go of their old habits. Is that a possibility? Did you move both babies, or was one already sleeping in the nursery? Maybe Lizzy is still getting used to the nursery or getting used to having Haley in there with her?

I wish I had some advice for you!

ballygirl · May 2014

@kittymom6 - The ap we use is called baby connect. It's nice because multiple users can use it for the girls, so the nanny or DH can log food and sleep when they are watching the girls. Now that we're starting to get on more of a regular schedule and the girls are more in synch, hopefully we won't need it for much longer but it was really helpful during the days of chaos.

We actually had our first night where both girls slept through the night last night!!!! They both went down at 7:30, woke for a bottle at midnight and then back down until 6! I was so psyched. Their nap schedule was delayed yesterday, so they weren't ready for their last nap until 6 but I figured they'd never sleep if I let them sleep at 6 so I kept them up until 7:30. They were sooo tired and cranky. They had been up since 3, which is much longer than they usually go. So, I'm going to try the same thing tonight and see how it goes.

kimbo1216 · May 2014

Emilyraymond said:

I have no words of wisdom or advice but I tried Ferber with dd. it worked great for a while. I laid her down awake (at around 8) and most nights she wouldn't fuss at all and not wake til between 2-3 am. But over the past few weeks, she's waking up again at around 10:30-11 which sucks because I'm really just getting in a good sleep cause I go to bed around 9:30-10. I'm not really sure what to do either. She's in her crib and does fine in there but I'm just exhausted so usually I revert to grabbing and and bringing her to bed with me. She's had 4 ear infections in the last 3 months so im sure that has a lot to do with it. Pedi told me last week that when she's healthy from current ear infection, that she needs to learn to self sooth. I asked what she would do if her kid and she said let them fuss it out. Console if screaming/crying but otherwise, let them work it out. She said she waking up because it's becoming a habit, not that she is hungry. I'm gonna try it when she's not sick cause I'm just too tired and she's old enough, she shouldn't be waking up every 2-3 hrs at 7 mos old.

@Emilyraymond, good luck. Once her ear infections has cleared, I'd just go back to those old tools. when she wakes, give her time to work it out. Personally, I wouldn't go in if she is just fussing. I'd also start with longer intervals to begin with--not just 2-3 min. But we do 10min every time (no graduated intervals), so that's my pov. In the mean time, you might try inclining her crib mattress just a tad to see if that helps take some of the pressure off her ears.

Good luck. I know it's hard and your tired, but when she's better, remember your tools and be consistent. Also, have YH do checks. I always have mine do the first check. Then I take the ones after that if necessary. Most of the time, if a check is needed, just his is enough. But at this point, that is just random off nights (like when she's cutting a tooth or something).

norbert5 · May 2014

Kittymom6 said:

@Marinowski‌, I'm sorry you're having a rough time. It would be helpful to know what you've researched and tried and for how long to have a better idea of what's not working for you. I tried the Sleep Lady's Good Night, Sleep Tight method and the first night I stayed in DD's room to 3 hours, the second night for 2 hours, and the third night for 90 mins. DD fuss-cried for about 15 mins that first night, but then played for 2 hours 45 mins before I picked her up and rocked her to sleep. I decided I can't do that every night. We delayed sleep training for a couple of reasons (teething, planned trips, etc.), but I'm now reading Ferber and starting to work on some nap training. I think that @norbert5‌ had luck with the sleep lady method - am I making that up? When you say you can't do drowsy but awake, what do you mean? Also, like Kimbo asked, how long did you try Ferber and what didn't work?

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Sorry just saw this we are in the middle of a move. Yes, I have used the sleep lady with all three of my girls. My two oldest are great sleepers and LO is sleeping well for a 7 month old. I suggest it to anyone who needs help with sleep.

ksimo6 · May 2014

Oye - I have been reading just about every page of this sleep thread... before I dive in, I did just download The Baby Whisperer Solves Your Problems. I will begin reading this evening. Lo was STTN in her crib from about 9pm-6am from 12 weeks. When she was a little over 5 mo old, she got the stomach flu and was a hot, hot mess for 10 days. She was well again for a week (and back to STTN in her crib) - then she got the stomah flu AGAIN. She was a mess for 5 days and then went back into her crib without issue. Then she started waking up every 2-3 hours for 4-5 nights in a row. Turns out she had ear infections, ok, so we got her on her meds and she got well.

Which brings us to now. We go through our nighttime routine and Tilly goes down in her crib, no problem. She sleeps there soundly for 4-5 hours and then is up and HYSTERICAL. I go try to sooth her and put her back down, but she is having nothing to do with it. I gave up this week and have been just taking her itinto the spare bedroom with me and going to sleep. Once she is in bed with me, she's content and sleeps for the remainder of the night. I KNOW I CREATED A MONSTER!! I just could not continue to get up all night and go to work the next day.

So - here's my question.... what the H do I do now? I know she can STTN in her crib, I just have to get her back into the habit. Thoughts? Ideas? Suggestions? Public shaming for giving into my exhaustion and taking the easy way out thus creating my own problems???

*edits for spelling

kimbo1216 · May 2014

@ksimo6, I'd just pick a sleep training method and stick with it. Sounds like your trying the baby whisperer. I can't remember her method. But, I'd read it thoroughly, come up with your plan, and then stick with it for at least a week.

Can YH help? If he can help check on baby, that should help you.

Good luck!

edaire · May 2014

@ksimo6‌ don't be so hard on yourself! Sounds like y'all have had a pretty rough time for a while. I don't think you are creating a monster. We do what we have to do to survive sometimes! Good luck and I hope it gets better soon!!

Jalee85 · May 2014

So.... I decided to try CIO just one more time. It took 45 minutes of light crying and she is out like a light, finally. I wasn't planning to try this again, but nothing else was working. She was back to waking up every hour again. I'm not sure how the rest of night will go, but hoping it doesn't take 45 minutes every time she wakes up.

PIP of proof of sleep!

Wish me luck.

Updates -
Asleep by 10:50pm
1st wake up 12:52am - She fell back asleep in 7 minutes!!!
2nd awakening 4:40 I fed her - back asleep in 5 minutes.

ballygirl · May 2014

@jalee85 good luck! Hope she has a nice long restful sleep (and you too!)

Jalee85 · May 2014

Thanks, @ballygirl‌ I just got done feeding her. She woke up at about 4:40. Not to bad of a stretch considering yesterday she was up every hour. Hoping for 1 more stretch of sleep.

Jalee85 · May 2014

ElleStaxx said:
Good news @Jalee85‌ !! I know you've had quite the battle so that makes me really happy!!

A battle is a great word for it! After her vomiting issue at 5 months. I thought CIO was out, but DH suggested we give it one more try. I guess she just want ready at 5 months but is now. It did take 45 minutes initially, but it hadn't taken her more than 7 minutes to fall back asleep with her other 3 wake ups. So I am marking this as a success and hope it continues.

Chrisanna0508 · May 2014

@Jalee85‌ Glad it was a success for you and hope this means for sleep for you in the future since I know you have said sleeping is hard under the best of circumstances

Jalee85 · May 2014

ElleStaxx said:

Jalee85 said:

ElleStaxx said:
Good news @Jalee85‌ !! I know you've had quite the battle so that makes me really happy!!
A battle is a great word for it! After her vomiting issue at 5 months. I thought CIO was out, but DH suggested we give it one more try. I guess she just want ready at 5 months but is now. It did take 45 minutes initially, but it hadn't taken her more than 7 minutes to fall back asleep with her other 3 wake ups. So I am marking this as a success and hope it continues.
The first night is usually the longest. Tonight will probably be shorter. (Fingers crossed!)

@ElleStaxx‌ No kidding. She stopped crying in 4 minutes and was asleep in 6 minutes! AMAZING!!!!

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