I just don't understand the point of tearing this woman down. She came to you with very real life problems, probably because she doesn't have a lot of people in her life to talk to about these problems. Not everyone has a fabulous social network to rely on - especially when it comes to marital problems and having feelings that you might not think are normal (i.e. not feeling happy about the U/S).
A number of people immediately responded to the OP condescendingly, telling her that she was insensitive and, essentially, needed an attitude adjustment. That's not what you tell someone who is clearly having a terrible time and is likely suffering from depression. There was also 0 concern for her - people responded "do the baby a favor" instead of focusing on baby AND mom.
I get how someone who has experienced loss or multiple losses would find it difficult to understand the perspective of someone who is not elated in her pregnancy. I don't blame you for having a hard time with the perspective presented by the OP. However, sometimes you need to get beyond your situation and your perspective to understand others. And if you can't get beyond yourself and your feelings (as this is no easy task), then just don't say anything at all - particularly in a situation like what the OP was presenting. It's not like she was being whiney or stupid - those are very real, incredibly heavy stressors. The pain olympics was just inappropriate. That's all we're saying.
Ask yourself before you post - is what you are about to say helpful to anyone on the board or are you just being hurtful? If you're just being hurtful then walk away from the conversation. No one is making you have to stay on the thread and post.
P.S. I do agree that many of you gave very sensitive and helpful responses. It was just sad to see that the first person to defend the OP on your board was attacked.
And how would you have felt if the first 4 reactions to your thread were to tell you to get the fuck over it and that you weren't allowed to post here?
That's what you are supporting. Good for you. Hypocrite.
I would have wondered what I said that offended people so much, and maybe read a little more about the group of people I'm seeking comfort from.
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Wow...you are a piece of work. The OP didn't say anything that would offend anyone other than a bunch of self absorbed women who didn't need to click on the damn thread if they didn't have the balls to look past their own issues and help someone else with their pain. The title clearly states what the thread was about...if you can't handled it then pass it by. Don't click on it as an opportunity to make someone else feel like shit by using your own tragedies to diminish what they are going through. If you are really too stupid to get this concept then I would avoid any and all social situations.
You're right, they didn't need to read the thread but they did, no one told her to get the fuck over it, they said how her post made them feel, was it right, no they could have ignored it but they said how they felt. Just like op said how she felt. You're going to get a lot of different opinions on these boards and ppl who feel differently than you, it happens, not everyone likes what everyone has to say. Idk what kind of lala candy land you're living in.
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Um...yeah...that is kind of the point. You ARE going to get a lot of opinions on these boards but why purposely open a thread that will trigger you? How much fucking sense does that make. The OP didn't necessarily need people to AGREE but she sure as hell could have used some empathy and a little less of the "this is a community" clique behavior and shaming bullshit.
I just went over to ttgp and saw some of the same posters in this thread tell a woman to go away and stop being ridiculous when she asked if her faint line was noticeable......umm pot meet kettle, hello. Lol someone even said...um who are you, you never post here go away. They said stop rubbing your pee stick in faces of women trying to get pregnant, you know like the pain Olympics. They actually drove that girl to tears...then a reg poster posted her BFP and got so much love. the hypocrisy is so awesome.
Hey thanks for the validation. Glad to know I'm not crazy for thinking that original responses were pretty harsh.
Somebody mentioned the habit of "groupthink", and I think that's pretty widespread on these boards. I commented about it here after the May board incident.
I've always thought that the bump boards were pretty harsh in general. It is one thing if somebody comes in here and says something intentionally offensive, but to strike out at somebody who is in good faith seeking a little support just seems to me to be unnecessarily cruel.
I sure hope that the first of us to admit ppd or that they don't love motherhood all the time isn't treated like this.
I'm not gonna get on board with the name calling of anybody involved in this thread. But I will say that this is just a message board and it can be as great or awful as we want it to be. Relationships can form and grow and already have but to some (most?) people it's just a casual place to ask some questions.
It's not the first time I've defended an unpopular posting and it won't be the last and if that makes me persona non grata so be it-- I'm fine going down that way.
I just went over to ttgp and saw some of the same posters in this thread tell a woman to go away and stop being ridiculous when she asked if her faint line was noticeable......umm pot meet kettle, hello. Lol someone even said...um who are you, you never post here go away. They said stop rubbing your pee stick in faces of women trying to get pregnant, you know like the pain Olympics. They actually drove that girl to tears...then a reg poster posted her BFP and got so much love. the hypocrisy is so awesome.
I just went over to ttgp and saw some of the same posters in this thread tell a woman to go away and stop being ridiculous when she asked if her faint line was noticeable......umm pot meet kettle, hello. Lol someone even said...um who are you, you never post here go away. They said stop rubbing your pee stick in faces of women trying to get pregnant, you know like the pain Olympics. They actually drove that girl to tears...the hypocrisy is so awesome.
Actually not the same thing at all.
Then maybe you need a lesson in empathy, gavel/ done you're all hypocrites, go yell at a newly pregnant girl.
Yes, asking for help dealing with serious emotional and financial distress while pregnant is exactly the same as being too stupid to read a pregnancy test without the internet. Unbelievable.
amanda - at this point you may be fighting just to make a point, but you are coming more and more like a terrible insensitive person the more you dig in and try to win.
@AmandaR204 -- That situation on TTGP is a little different than someone coming to a board and saying "Hey, my marriage is crumbling, I just lost my job (and thus my financial stability), and I'm not feeling happy about my U/S. I'm probably depressed Someone please help."
Why kick someone in the face while they're down? What's the point of doing that? And even if you didn't personally say anything terrible to the OP, why defend what happened to her here?
Yes, asking for help dealing with serious emotional and financial distress while pregnant is exactly the same as being too stupid to read a pregnancy test without the internet. Unbelievable.
amanda - at this point you may be fighting just to make a point, but you are coming more and more like a terrible insensitive person the more you dig in and try to win.
Different scenario, same principle. If you don't like the question or post, move along silently or respectfully.
Oops, I did it again.
But....it said clearly in the topic what the content of her thread was about, why didn't you all who would be offended...not click.
Save us some time. All your rebuttals, can be met with a counter somewhere in this thread...it's the same thing, don't try to act like it's not. I'm not responding anymore, I think my point is clear as day to anyone with a brain.
I'm just sitting over here like...who are all these people?
Nice attempt at wit. Sorry to tell you that you failed and you don't have to know us. This is a PUBLIC forum so contrary to popular belief in your BMB we don't have to be part of your clique to hit "post reply".
But....it said clearly in the topic what the content of her thread was about, why didn't you all who would be offended...not click.
Save us some time. All your rebuttals, can be met with a counter somewhere in this thread...it's the same thing, don't try to act like it's not. I'm not responding anymore, I think my point is clear as day to anyone with a brain.
Oh good. You're not responding anymore. What a relief.
lol-- what else am I supposed to think when I come back after a day and there are 150 comments on a thread and they are all from random people. Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot--a couple pages back I learned that we must have a celebrity among us...forgive me.
I'm not reading 8 pages of this. I've read the first page, and all I can say is: OP, sorry your dealing with all of this stress at once. Even though pregnancy is an amazing thing, it's also very stressful. Couple that with losing your job and marriage on the rocks and you've got a mighty big plate full. If you can find the financial means to do so, I echo others who recommend talking with a professional. At least discuss this with your doctor.
Also, I don't agree with people flipping out over the fact that OP stated that she wasn't excited about her ultrasound. Yes, there are lots of women who have, unfortunately, experienced losses. That doesn't mean that OP shouldn't come here for a little support if she's feeling really down. Sometimes people need a place to vent. Venting about frustrations, stress, and sadness regarding pregnancy does not cause or prevent losses, so give OP a break.
@lindsrockies Random...nothing to do with this thread. I'm finally on my computer today and can see your siggy. Your kiddos are super cute! And Betty is just one day younger than my John!
Re: Not excited about baby
I would have wondered what I said that offended people so much, and maybe read a little more about the group of people I'm seeking comfort from.
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Wow...you are a piece of work. The OP didn't say anything that would offend anyone other than a bunch of self absorbed women who didn't need to click on the damn thread if they didn't have the balls to look past their own issues and help someone else with their pain. The title clearly states what the thread was about...if you can't handled it then pass it by. Don't click on it as an opportunity to make someone else feel like shit by using your own tragedies to diminish what they are going through. If you are really too stupid to get this concept then I would avoid any and all social situations.
You're right, they didn't need to read the thread but they did, no one told her to get the fuck over it, they said how her post made them feel, was it right, no they could have ignored it but they said how they felt. Just like op said how she felt. You're going to get a lot of different opinions on these boards and ppl who feel differently than you, it happens, not everyone likes what everyone has to say. Idk what kind of lala candy land you're living in.
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Um...yeah...that is kind of the point. You ARE going to get a lot of opinions on these boards but why purposely open a thread that will trigger you? How much fucking sense does that make. The OP didn't necessarily need people to AGREE but she sure as hell could have used some empathy and a little less of the "this is a community" clique behavior and shaming bullshit.
Somebody mentioned the habit of "groupthink", and I think that's pretty widespread on these boards. I commented about it here after the May board incident.
I've always thought that the bump boards were pretty harsh in general. It is one thing if somebody comes in here and says something intentionally offensive, but to strike out at somebody who is in good faith seeking a little support just seems to me to be unnecessarily cruel.
I sure hope that the first of us to admit ppd or that they don't love motherhood all the time isn't treated like this.
I'm not gonna get on board with the name calling of anybody involved in this thread. But I will say that this is just a message board and it can be as great or awful as we want it to be. Relationships can form and grow and already have but to some (most?) people it's just a casual place to ask some questions.
It's not the first time I've defended an unpopular posting and it won't be the last and if that makes me persona non grata so be it-- I'm fine going down that way.
-the white knight :-)
Then maybe you need a lesson in empathy, gavel/ done you're all hypocrites, go yell at a newly pregnant girl.
Also, I don't agree with people flipping out over the fact that OP stated that she wasn't excited about her ultrasound. Yes, there are lots of women who have, unfortunately, experienced losses. That doesn't mean that OP shouldn't come here for a little support if she's feeling really down. Sometimes people need a place to vent. Venting about frustrations, stress, and sadness regarding pregnancy does not cause or prevent losses, so give OP a break.
You mean you want us to know prior history of happenings on your board and posters involved before placing judgment? What a novel fucking idea
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