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mfarmer0811 · April 2014

addisonsmom22 said:
@mfarmer0811‌ nope! I just called the breastfeeding hotline at my hospital and it's fine if you haven't refrigerated yet. I was having this conversation with a friend of mine yesterday and she was told only an hour and I said no. But I second guessed myself today and called. Sure enough I was wrong. If it stays cold it can stay 5 hours but heated or at room temperature one hour.

Well, dangit! LO doesn't always take a bottle during MOTN feeding, and I've kept it till his next feeding. I thought it was good for 6 hrs

twinlove314 · April 2014

WisconsinCheese12 said:

B2B.2010 said:

My MIL invited herself to stay at our house this weekend so my house is purposefully a mess. I hope it sends a message. LO is 7 weeks old today and I still haven't ordered his birth certificate. I pumped 4.5 ounces after LO ate this morning, that's a lot for me! But I'm restraining myself from sharing that info w DH bc I haven't been able to build much of a stash and want to have a decent one going for daycare. He sees it as an opportunity to leave LO. I don't think he understands that stuff is liquid gold:) Summary: I'm slacking as a mom, wife and daughter in law.

This is me too. The way the nurse explained it to us was that we'd get the boys birth certificates in the mail just like their social security cards...apparently that's not the case. I think DH is ordering them today
You have to order them? We just had to go to the county, tell them we wanted copies and they print them off. 12$ each and $6 at the time of Purchase if you want extras I suggest getting extra, especially if you ever plan to move states. We plan to return to wi, I gave a copy to my dad in his safe so just in case!

I could pick them up in our state capitol's office, but, we live about 1.5 hours from there

katykatykaty · April 2014

mfarmer0811 said:

addisonsmom22 said:
@mfarmer0811‌ nope! I just called the breastfeeding hotline at my hospital and it's fine if you haven't refrigerated yet. I was having this conversation with a friend of mine yesterday and she was told only an hour and I said no. But I second guessed myself today and called. Sure enough I was wrong. If it stays cold it can stay 5 hours but heated or at room temperature one hour.
Well, dangit! LO doesn't always take a bottle during MOTN feeding, and I've kept it till his next feeding. I thought it was good for 6 hrs

We always left it out for 6 hours even after it was refrigerated and never had any issues.

I guess my confession is that I just ordered DD's birth certificate and she's 2.5. I only did it because her school this fall needs a copy. Oops.

SurpriseAt39 · April 2014

Okay, I'll confess.

I send DS1 to the sitters on a day that MIL said she would babysit.

Buuuuut, for the following reasons;
1) he smells of smoke when he comes home from MIL's - but not the sitter's
2) MIL has cancelled at the last minute - several times - by calling DH (he's at work and I'm home AND I'm the one who set it up)
3) MIL feeds him mostly processed food, not fresh made, and lots of junk food
4) he has other kids to play with at the sitter's and he loves it

AshleyO925 · April 2014

@Kalpa521‌ Sorry for the post and run this morning. I had my 6 week pp check up but yes I was really saddened by that story and it made me start being super careful about dozing off with P on my chest.

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SamJustice · April 2014

DS1 will be three in August and STILL haven't ordered his birth certificate, let alone LO's. We just can't afford $35 per certificate and we haven't needed it at all yet.

I'm also boycotting all housework. FI has been out of work for weeks and refuses to help out. So ive had dirty dishes sitting in the sink for almost a week. It's really gross and I can't stand it anymore so I'll be doing them when LO is done nursing.

mrsdahamm · April 2014

I just put my very fussy baby in a headlock because he kept thrashing and bouncing his head off my face.

Eta and I'm an asshole. Turns out he was just still hungry

I pumped about an hour before I fed him and I thought he was done. 20 minutes later he was unhappy so I warmed up an ounce of BM and he was STILL unhappy so I thought maybe he was tired/had a stomach ache but when I held him cradle style he started rooting and has been latched for another 7 minutes and counting.

clo1982 · April 2014

I leave breast milk out if he doesn't eat it and feed it at the next feeding, which is 3-4 hour later. I thought it was 6 hours...I'm sticking with that belief.

angelsnight · April 2014

I normally pay bills at work where I have a (mostly) clean desk to work on, adding machine, and double monitors so I can have different accounts open. But doing it from home while on leave sucks and I keep paying bills way late. My home office is a mess, so I'm trying to do them on my laptop on the couch, with papers stacked everywhere and using a crappy adding machine app on my phone.

So I guess my confession is I am looking forward to going back to work so I can A. Pay bills on time again and have everything I need at my fingertips, B. be able to pump more often and C. Eat without being interrupted with crying. But otherwise I'm totally dreading going back.

amandapthompson · April 2014

I've had not one, but TWO of these rich chocolatey bastards since lunch today...

Momstheword83 · April 2014

I have another. My boyfriend's daughters are coming this weekend and I can't stand them. They're rude, hyper and they never clean up their messes. I'm trying to find things to do with DS and LO just so I can get away from them.

akflutterby · April 2014

I hate DD's dog. She's a rescue toy fox terrier that hubs got for her when we separated but lives with us. Isabelle is just too young to take care of her appropriately and we wind up with an "accident" in the house at least once a day. I keep her in the kennel all day because I just don't have the patience or time to take care of her. I wish I could just give her away but I know my little girl would be devastated.

Stacyacker22 · April 2014

@jazzyexpo....I super LOVE sucking boogers out of baby girl's nose. If I get a big one out its my giant accomplishment for the day! (Wow I need to get out for some adult interaction)

My other confession is we were supposed to go to a wedding sat night. It was my first big "night out" without LO as my parents are going to watch her. Well, the wedding got called off and I don't feel at ALL bad for the bride or groom who aren't getting married; I feel bad for ME for missing out on a fancy shmancy party and open bar!!

CruiseGirl28 · April 2014

I'm sitting next to DH on the couch. He's holding a crying baby. I'm drinking a beer and browsing TB.

Momstheword83 · April 2014

Baby1Dany said:
@Momstheword83 I love that your ticker says you are 49 weeks and 3 days pregnant. I wonder how high the ticker will go and if the image of the growing baby will eventually be toddler sized etc.

I thought I had changed it the last time I logged on through my computer. I guess not.

katykatykaty · April 2014

WisconsinCheese12 said:

akflutterby said:
I hate DD's dog. She's a rescue toy fox terrier that hubs got for her when we separated but lives with us. Isabelle is just too young to take care of her appropriately and we wind up with an "accident" in the house at least once a day. I keep her in the kennel all day because I just don't have the patience or time to take care of her. I wish I could just give her away but I know my little girl would be devastated.
Getting rid of the dog would be better for the dog, sounds like neither of you are able to take care of it. Poor pup.

How old is your daughter? A dog is a huge responsibility... Especially for a kid. I agree that if she's in a cage all day, it might be time to find her a new home. The poor dog shouldn't be punished because its owner is too young to take care of it.

mrsdahamm · April 2014

I have another. I just had my second post dinner bowl of cocoa puffs. If baby gets to eat nonstop, so does mama

wildhoney4508 · April 2014

theluckiest9 said:
It now takes me twice as long to run errands by myself bc I enjoy the time alone. My H hasn't complained so I will continue to take my sweet time.

THIS!! Today I went out "to pick us up lunch." an hour later...

LiFeIsAmIrAcLe · April 2014

B2B.2010 said:

@AshleyO925‌ what happened to @LiFeIsAmIrAcLe‌ ? I must have missed something.
Someone came in to the ER and a fellow nursing student of hers saw a baby come in that was blue and dead on arrival. The mom fell asleep on the couch with her baby on her chest and accidentally rolled over on the baby.
I completely missed this. That is horrible, heartbreaking. I couldn't imagine how the mom feels. So sad.
I don't think she posted it on here, or if she did I missed that too, I saw where she had shared that on Facebook yesterday. I've hardly been able to stop thinking about it since, I just can't imagine. I've done the same thing once or twice in desperate, exhausted moments but I won't anymore.

I haven't been on the bump for a couple days now.

sorry guys! Finals this week and life's just been crazy in general.

But yes, a fellow nursing student went through that. She called me later that night crying, saying every time she closed her eyes she saw the blue baby in her mind, and all she could hear was the mom screaming that they needed to do something.

I was talking to my Mom about the situation, and she said something didn't sound right. The baby was 9 months old. She said a 9 month old would have fought enough to wake you up, unless the mom was high or super drunk. I didn't ask my friend about that.....but was curious what you guys thought of that?

akflutterby · April 2014

katykatykaty said:

WisconsinCheese12 said:

akflutterby said:
I hate DD's dog. She's a rescue toy fox terrier that hubs got for her needs. we separated but lives with us. Isabelle is just too young to take care of her appropriately and we wind up with an "accident" in the house at least once a day. I keep her in the kennel all day because I just don't have the patience or time to take care of her. I wish I could just give her away but I know my little girl would be devastated.
Getting rid of the dog would be better for the dog, sounds like neither of you are able to take care of it. Poor pup.
How old is your daughter? A dog is a huge responsibility... Especially for a kid. I agree that if she's in a cage all day, it might be time to find her a new home. The poor dog shouldn't be punished because its owner is too young to take care of it.

Isabelle will be 10 in a few weeks. She is working on being more responsible with the dog (who would be in a kennel all day anyway while we're at work and school), but not fast enough for what I think the dog needs.

akflutterby · April 2014

SuheyF1983 said:

WisconsinCheese12 said:

akflutterby said:
I hate DD's dog. She's a rescue toy fox terrier that hubs got for her when we separated but lives with us. Isabelle is just too young to take care of her appropriately and we wind up with an "accident" in the house at least once a day. I keep her in the kennel all day because I just don't have the patience or time to take care of her. I wish I could just give her away but I know my little girl would be devastated.
Getting rid of the dog would be better for the dog, sounds like neither of you are able to take care of it. Poor pup.

@akflutterby
I'm sorry but keeping your dog in a kennel all day because you don't have the time is simply horrible. Please just give the poor dog away.

Most people I know keep their dogs in a kennel during the day. A lot do it over night too, that's one of the reasons they sell kennels. I just feel bad because I'm home during the day so she could be out, but that's only because I am on maternity leave. Even if I let her out while I'm home now she'd still go back to be being locked up for those hours when I go back to work in a couple of weeks. I don't think there's anything wrong with having dogs in a kennel during the day, much less that it's "horrible. "

amandapthompson · April 2014

bearsbearsbears said:
@LiFeIsAmIrAcLe‌ some people are just crazy deep sleepers. One of my friends in high school could literally only wake up to one alarm or someone pulling both of her arms. We could make a ton of noise, shout in her ears, shake her--but she wouldn't wake up. She was always terrified of having a fire at night, because she thought she wouldn't wake up. I think it could be possible in that sort of situation.

If the mom was THAT hard of a sleeper then she should not be cosleeping.

Brich3321 · April 2014

SuheyF1983 said:

akflutterby said:

SuheyF1983 said:

WisconsinCheese12 said:

akflutterby said:
I hate DD's dog. She's a rescue toy fox terrier that hubs got for her when we separated but lives with us. Isabelle is just too young to take care of her appropriately and we wind up with an "accident" in the house at least once a day. I keep her in the kennel all day because I just don't have the patience or time to take care of her. I wish I could just give her away but I know my little girl would be devastated.
Getting rid of the dog would be better for the dog, sounds like neither of you are able to take care of it. Poor pup.

@akflutterby
I'm sorry but keeping your dog in a kennel all day because you don't have the time is simply horrible. Please just give the poor dog away.
Most people I know keep their dogs in a kennel during the day. A lot do it over night too, that's one of the reasons they sell kennels. I just feel bad because I'm home during the day so she could be out, but that's only because I am on maternity leave. Even if I let her out while I'm home now she'd still go back to be being locked up for those hours when I go back to work in a couple of weeks. I don't think there's anything wrong with having dogs in a kennel during the day, much less that it's "horrible.

you said you hate her, so yes its horrible because since you "hate" her you have no problem about leaving her all
day, when you are at home..

This EXACTLY! If you hate the dog that is why it's in the kennel all day. It's one thing to crate train a dog for sleeping at night when it's quiet but during the day, when you are home you need to realize that this is a form of punishment for the dog. He hears you and doesn't understand why he can't be interacting/hanging with you which I'm certain causes him anxiety. If you hate him please look for a home for him. Craigslist or a local non-kill shelter.
Edit: words

akflutterby · April 2014

Then you're REALLY going to hate this. I keep our other dog in a kennel all day too and I love him. I don't think 7hrs out of 24 is too long for them to be in their respective kennels, but flame away. When I am home alone with LO, the dogs are almost always in their kennels.

PerkyErky · April 2014

We crate our two dogs during the day when we are at work or anytime we aren't home and the Jack Russell is crated when we eat. Our greyhound is a retired racer and had never lived in a home before we adopted her. The crate was a huge help in helping her adjust to life in a home as a pet instead of as a racer. Our jack Russell is a territorial marker even though he's neutered and will pee on things if left unsupervised, he is also crated when we eat because he will pace under the table if we don't.

They know their crates are safe places and will go into their crates on their own to nap or just get away when they need a break (we leave the doors open when we're home). DS1 knows he is not to play in the crates and to leave the dogs alone if they go into their crates.

Crating in and of itself is not bad or cruel.

AriaAmante143 · April 2014

PerkyErky said:
We crate our two dogs during the day when we are at work or anytime we aren't home and the Jack Russell is crated when we eat. Our greyhound is a retired racer and had never lived in a home before we adopted her. The crate was a huge help in helping her adjust to life in a home as a pet instead of as a racer. Our jack Russell is a territorial marker even though he's neutered and will pee on things if left unsupervised, he is also crated when we eat because he will pace under the table if we don't.

They know their crates are safe places and will go into their crates on their own to nap or just get away when they need a break (we leave the doors open when we're home). DS1 knows he is not to play in the crates and to leave the dogs alone if they go into their crates.

Crating in and of itself is not bad or cruel.

Crating in itself isn't bad, you're right. I love my dog to bits but I have to crate her when we leave the house or we'd come home to a destroyed house. She also naps in her crate sometimes (with the door open) while we're home, she has a nice comfy bed in there and knows it's a safe space.

It is cruel to crate the dog because you hate it and don't feel like taking care of it. OP, do you walk the dog or anything, or does it literally sit there by itself all the time? If it's the latter, that is absolutely cruel to the poor dog and you need to re home it ASAP. Sorry your kid will be upset but you are NOT taking care of that animal, and that's awful.

Babykawash · April 2014

LO cluster fed last night and finally fell asleep around 11. She woke up an hour later and DH said she appeared hungry. I got up, gave her a binky and turned the vibrator on her bassinet. She didn't wake up again till 5 am....I got a much needed stretch of sleep but I do feel bad that I didn't feed her for 6+ hours and left the vibrator on all night (I meant to shut it off but fell asleep!).

akflutterby · April 2014

AriaAmante143 said:

PerkyErky said:
We crate our two dogs during the day when we are at work or anytime we aren't home and the Jack Russell is crated when we eat. Our greyhound is a retired racer and had never lived in a home before we adopted her. The crate was a huge help in helping her adjust to life in a home as a pet instead of as a racer. Our jack Russell is a territorial marker even though he's neutered and will pee on things if left unsupervised, he is also crated when we eat because he will pace under the table if we don't.

They know their crates are safe places and will go into their crates on their own to nap or just get away when they need a break (we leave the doors open when we're home). DS1 knows he is not to play in the crates and to leave the dogs alone if they go into their crates.

Crating in and of itself is not bad or cruel.
Crating in itself isn't bad, you're right. I love my dog to bits but I have to crate her when we leave the house or we'd come home to a destroyed house. She also naps in her crate sometimes (with the door open) while we're home, she has a nice comfy bed in there and knows it's a safe space.

It is cruel to crate the dog because you hate it and don't feel like taking care of it. OP, do you walk the dog or anything, or does it literally sit there by itself all the time? If it's the latter, that is absolutely cruel to the poor dog and you need to re home it ASAP. Sorry your kid will be upset but you are NOT taking care of that animal, and that's awful.

My daughter walks her every morning before school then puts her in the kennel before she goes to the bus. Another walk when she gets home from school, then she's kind of loose in the house for the night. Usually two more walks before bed (we have an open yard so the only way the dogs get out is if they are walked) and then off to bed (where the dog sleeps with my daughter). But for those 7 hours my daughter is at school, no I don't walk the dog.

mfarmer0811 · April 2014

There's nothing wrong with kennels/crates when used correctly. They are used to serve a purpose. Putting your dog in a kennel/crate because you hate it, or don't want to deal with it is not the purpose it was meant to serve.

Baby cribs are used for a purpose; you don't put your baby in its crib when you don't want to deal with it do you? Probably not, because that's not the purpose of a crib.

SamJustice · April 2014

I had to anonymously call the humane society on my aunt and uncle because they left their two dogs (a vicious resuced beagel and a blood hound) in their crates in the basement literally all day except for ten minute potty breaks four times a day. Didn't matter if anyone was home or not or how much they whined. They just didnt want to train them. Unfortunately, it didn't constitute as abuse because they were otherwise cared for. Eventually, they lost their home and had to sell the dogs for gas money. So, while I don't agree with crating most of the day, it could definitely be worse.

akflutterby · April 2014

SuheyF1983 said:
OP clearly stated she hates the dog and doesn't have a problem with leaving her in the kennel day day even though she's home. Instead maybe, just maybe try and train the dog instead if caging her and not dealing with her. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the poor dog a rescue? Hasn't she been through enough?
How is she going to learn if OP doesn't teach her? Locking her up isn't going help! I just hope those 7 hours she at least has water.

Yes, she is a rescue, and she has totally been through enough. We have been working on training her since we got her, and she is a million times better than when we brought her home. Locking her up definitely does not solve the problem. All is does is give me time to not have to clean up after her during the day when I'm taking care of my newborn - because no matter how many times she goes out each day, she still manages to make a mess in the house at least once, and I just cannot deal with it right now.

Brich3321 · April 2014

I don't think any of us defending the dog wanted it to seem like all crate use is bad. We tried it with our Jack Russell when we first rescued him with the intention of crating him while we were gone. Unfortunately it didn't work for him, he had way too much anxiety with it and not knowing his past we assumed it was because he was isolated so much and kenneled because that family didn't know how to deal with him. Not to beat a dead horse but as other PPs said, it was because of the hate statement that a few of us asked to please find it a better home. It has nothing to do with crate training in general.

LiFeIsAmIrAcLe · April 2014

bearsbearsbears said:

@LiFeIsAmIrAcLe‌ some people are just crazy deep sleepers. One of my friends in high school could literally only wake up to one alarm or someone pulling both of her arms. We could make a ton of noise, shout in her ears, shake her--but she wouldn't wake up. She was always terrified of having a fire at night, because she thought she wouldn't wake up. I think it could be possible in that sort of situation.

This is kinda true I guess.....I used to be a hard sleeper. But I feel like with a baby everything changes. It's like my instinct now to sleep half'awake if that makes sense. Even in my sleep I'm very aware of my baby. But I can't really judge her because I don't know any more to the story. I do agree that if she was that hard of a sleeper she shouldn't have been co-sleeping.

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