Backstory: My family is from the South...all of us were born and raised in Nashville. We've traveled but never lived anywhere else. My mom received a phone call at work earlier this week and I was appalled at the outcome. She deals with the Medicare Drug system....anyway this older lady from the New York area called and my mom would answer her questions with Yes Ma'am/No Ma'am as we do with everyone regardless of age. It's just what we see as manners and proper etiquette. This lady went off on my mom! Said she was calling her a whore. WTF? I don't see how anyone gets whore from ma'am. She said that where she's from a Madam is a whore.
So my questions to you, because now I'm generally curious how the rest of the country sees this topic:
Where are you from?
Is it proper to say ma'am/sir?
Do you use it in your everyday vocabulary?
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I use Ma'am and Sir for those older than me or in business transactions. I also plan to teach my son to use Ma'am and Sir. My grandmother taught me to use it and to never waiver from it because it is a sign of respect. She said if other people want to take it condescendingly then that is their right, but it shouldn't change me being polite.
I think it is rude of that customer to act that way. She should check her dictionary or sign up for a word of the day email. Ma'am is not the same as Madam. While both can be used as signs of respect, it is awful that she immediately thought someone trying to help her would imply she is a whore.
And I use ma'am and sir pretty much all of the time.
Dh is from tx but they moved to ohio when he was a teen and once he got in trouble with a teacher because she thought he was being "smart" and talking back to her by calling her ma'am.
ETA: The customer who reacted that way to your mom was completely wrong IMO. When I am on the phone with someone who is clearly southern and they call me ma'am a lot, I assume it's just because that's a polite thing to do in the south. I like it. I think it's just a cultural thing that it's more often used in the south than anywhere else in the US. Everyone is more polite and friendly in the south, I think.
I'm from St. Louis. I say and most people I know and have met around here Ma'am/Sir/Miss. Ma'am is reserved for ladies with short gray hair - every other lady is a Miss. Older ladies and gentlemen refer to younger individuals as "young lady" or "young man". I say it when I need the attention of a stranger who isn't paying attention.
Sounds like your mom just had a crazy on the phone.
Thanks for the feedback, ladies! I'm glad to know that lady on the phones way of thinking is not the norm. Maybe she was just having a bad day....
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Where are you from? Pennsylvania
Is it proper to say ma'am/sir? I suppose so, but people in my experience don't necessarily use it outside of cashiers or servers. It certainly doesn't mean anything vulgar to my knowledge.
Do you use it in your everyday vocabulary? I tend not to, mostly because my immediate family was pretty antisocial (my mom worked nights, so we never went anywhere and my parents made very few friends that I would refer to this way as a child). I was always taught to refer to my elders as "Mr. ---" or "Mrs.---". I also tend to speak to people familiarly-- as if I know them, even if I have no idea what their name is. I've found that I get friendlier responses that way. I also held a manager position at a young age (most of my employees were older than me), so I found that it was easier to work with people if I wasn't constantly reminding them that they were older than me.
I'm surprised that the woman was that offended. I've never heard that before.
I'm pretty sure ma'am is the contraction form of madam. But I could be wrong....