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momthatlifts · April 2014

@cbrust‌ I had an amazing appointment today. Was in on time. Talked to the OB and was out of there in less than an hour (I had a growth scan done today or it would have been short) was able to get the rest of the days errands done early. Loved it.

lavendergiraffes · April 2014

cbrust said:

KatieP71312 said:

Kageer said:

I think choosing a home birth is an irresponsible choice. You have no way of knowing what complications are going to arise that require medical attention and to waste precious minutes getting to a medical facility is minutes wasted that could be treating you or your baby.

Saluting you as another irresponsible homebirther. Lucky me that my MW is the ONLY MW in the state of Oregon who has hospital privileges so that if I transfer, she remains my primary care provider. Also lucky me, like others have stated, EVERY 1hr long prenatal appointment is spent discussing any reasons I would potentially risk out or be uncomfortable. They also visit my home, know my entire family, and delivered my last son at home.

I'm looking forward to the personal, intimate, direct care they provide. Especially the constant monitoring of me including sitting near me and checking the baby as often as required in positions that accommodate where I'm at with my labor. Also, because they KNOW me, they will know when I'm in distress and/or require a transfer.

am I the only one that doesn't have 1hr long prenatal appointments? I swear I'm in and out of there in 10 minutes sometimes..

I used to be (after waiting almost an hour to see someone). Then I switched to my midwife at 30 weeks. Now I wait 20 minutes and am with her for as long as I want. :-)

cbrust · April 2014

Kimbus22 said:

I guess because homebirth is so far off my radar as something that even happens, I literally have zero idea what I'd talk to anyone about for an hour. Like, no idea at all. Even when I was a FTM, I felt like I had all of my questions answered in 20 minutes or less. I've never felt rushed or like I was being treated like one on an assembly line. The OB always asks about symptoms and how I'm feeling and is happy to sit down and discuss them with me as long as I want. I just have literally no idea what I would ever find to talk about that would take that long at every appointment. No idea.

I'm with you on this one.. FTM mom here and I have nooo idea what I'd talk about for even more than 20 mins. I have never once felt rushed or like a "burrito from chipotle." I know my OB cares about me as a person and doesn't just see me as a uterus. She always knows exactly how many weeks I am-before she pulls up my chart, has remembered my baby's name from the day we found out it's a girl, and remembers events that have gone on the week between visits. I think she asks me 3-4 times each appointment if I have any questions or concerns so I know she'd be willing to chat longer I just never have anything I want to ask.

Junebug060609 · April 2014

Kimbus22 said:

cbrust said:

am I the only one that doesn't have 1hr long prenatal appointments? I swear I'm in and out of there in 10 minutes sometimes..

No. And I'll go so far as to say that an hour long appointment at every visit sounds like it's own special sort of hell. WTF would I talk about for an hour? I'm out in ten minutes, 15-20 at MOST if I have questions.

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I have twice weekly appts that last an hour each. One is a NST, the other a BPP. it's worth it, of course, but it's a major time suck and PITA to schedule around my sons half day preschool.

I'd be thrilled to not be high risk and have 20 min appts.

ThereBeDragons · April 2014

I'm high risk, being seen by medical pros twice a week and my face to face time with my doc is still less than 10min. And I like it that way!

My BPP takes 30min with the ultrasound tech, and getting my check up + shot every Friday with the home health nurse takes about 15. By the time I see the doc I've already spent half an hour watching baby bob around on the TV screen, heard fetal heart tones, and had my blood pressure checked. All that's really left to do is answer the standard list of symptom questions (yes I'm contracting, but no it's never often enough to feel the need for labor and delivery. No swelling, no strange discharge or bleeding) and let her measure me with the tape measure. I have no idea what we'd talk about if she decided to just sit down and chat with me in general. Maybe I'd complain about all the perfectly normal aches and complaints and she'd reassure me, yet again, that they're all normal.

I've never felt like a number- even with my fertility clinic. But I like to do my own research and be an engaged, well informed patient so I'm pretty low maintenance despite a list of problems a mile long.

haylo33 · April 2014

I've seen a midwife from the beginning. The time I actually talk to her is probably around 5 minutes, 10 max. The nurse does my BP, weight, and urine. Basically the midwife measures me and listens to the HB then asks if I have any questions. I've actually been a little annoyed with this because I feel like she doesn't tell me what to expect or what is coming up. At one of my appointments, she said "since you are a nurse I figure you know this stuff" so sometimes I think she assumes I know what to expect. I can honestly say I've learned more about what to expect from TB and books. If I were one of those people who don't read or do any research, I'm not even sure I would know that contractions are a normal part of pregnancy or anything like that

HARLEYSMOM2010 · April 2014

I'm having a home water birth for the *gasp* second time... Shoot me
I'll personally never have a hospital birth again god willing.. The first baby I had in hospital was a nightmare they try every intervention possible and can't fathom why anyone would want an Unmedicated birth... I was not giving in... They did not like that.. LOL they also tried telling me my mucus plug was a yeast infection. Useless I'll stick with my amazing midwives thank you

mileswithmyles · April 2014

Home births- not for me, but NOT irresponsible in any way.

Harry Potter- far superior YA literature than Twilight

Disney vacations with small children- depends on where you live. We are close to Disneyland and will probably take LO when he is young, but we can go for the day and SIL works there, so it's not a huge expense. We won't go to Disneyworld until LO can appreciate it.

Homeschooling- as a public school teacher, I think going to school is important, but there are really great homeschooling programs out there. That being said, there are some bad ones too. If done right, it gives kids access to some great hands on learning that, unfortunately, doesn't always happen in public school.

Common Core- don't love redoing all my lessons, but like it way better than the old system. It encourages more critical thinking and I like that.

awc1986 · April 2014

Empireceo said:

cbrust said:

KatieP71312 said:

Kageer said:

I think choosing a home birth is an irresponsible choice. You have no way of knowing what complications are going to arise that require medical attention and to waste precious minutes getting to a medical facility is minutes wasted that could be treating you or your baby.

Saluting you as another irresponsible homebirther. Lucky me that my MW is the ONLY MW in the state of Oregon who has hospital privileges so that if I transfer, she remains my primary care provider. Also lucky me, like others have stated, EVERY 1hr long prenatal appointment is spent discussing any reasons I would potentially risk out or be uncomfortable. They also visit my home, know my entire family, and delivered my last son at home.

I'm looking forward to the personal, intimate, direct care they provide. Especially the constant monitoring of me including sitting near me and checking the baby as often as required in positions that accommodate where I'm at with my labor. Also, because they KNOW me, they will know when I'm in distress and/or require a transfer.

am I the only one that doesn't have 1hr long prenatal appointments? I swear I'm in and out of there in 10 minutes sometimes..

And there is one of the most appealing distinctions between ob and midwife. THey care for me as a whole, not as a pregnant uterus.

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In the uk we use midwives as standard. Gynaes don't get involved unless you're high risk or need to be seen for a particular reason. Most hospitals now have a midwifery lead unit and all appointments are conducted by midwives. A lot more personal than seeing a dr, as you're right. They do treat you like a pregnant woman rather than another standard patient.

I don't know what the set up is in the US, but the midwifery lead hospital units here are very relaxed and almost homely (if you forget about the screaming ladies and hospital equipment). It's not like a standard hospital ward. They have lots of facilities available for the kind of birth you want and intervention is kept to a minimum. You deal with midwives most of the time and a dr only gets involved to actually deliver the baby.

Jennyinheaven · April 2014

Ok I'm going to say something about the whole midwife versus doctor and good hospital birth versus terrible experience thing, I think like many things in life it is not a black and white across the board one answer or truth. This is where it pays to do your due diligence and research your providers. I personally love the hospital and doctors I am using now but in the past I have had less then steller OB care at another facility so when I got my BFP this time I researched and asked people I trusted for recommendation s etc...

IBackBevo · April 2014

Jennyinheaven said:
Ok I'm going to say something about the whole midwife versus doctor and good hospital birth versus terrible experience thing, I think like many things in life it is not a black and white across the board one answer or truth. This is where it pays to do your due diligence and research your providers. I personally love the hospital and doctors I am using now but in the past I have had less then steller OB care at another facility so when I got my BFP this time I researched and asked people I trusted for recommendation s etc...

You can do all the research in the world, go to a great hospital and have an OB you love and still get a bitch for an L&D nurse who doesn't know what she is doing and pushes unnecessary interventions.

Also, not every person is in a scenario where they have a ton of options for providers or hospitals.

Empireceo · April 2014

For the people curious about why some midwife appointments last an hour, I'll share my experience. My H doesn't come with to every appointment but they do like when he and DS come. We talk about how I'm physically feeling, what concerns I have about my vbac and the home birth in general. If my job or H's job is stressful or noteworthy for some reason, we discuss that. We have discussed how to deal with unsupportive family members who think we are crazy for choosing a home birth. They know and are very fond of my son, and keep track of his development as well as help prepare him to be a big brother and experience a birth in the house. Depending on my ailments, I may have a mini session of acupuncture or cranio sacral therapy with one of the partners of the group. I bet this sounds horrible to some of you but I can't imagine going back to an ob.

Jennyinheaven · April 2014

IBackBevo said:

Jennyinheaven said:
Ok I'm going to say something about the whole midwife versus doctor and good hospital birth versus terrible experience thing, I think like many things in life it is not a black and white across the board one answer or truth. This is where it pays to do your due diligence and research your providers. I personally love the hospital and doctors I am using now but in the past I have had less then steller OB care at another facility so when I got my BFP this time I researched and asked people I trusted for recommendation s etc...
You can do all the research in the world, go to a great hospital and have an OB you love and still get a bitch for an L&D nurse who doesn't know what she is doing and pushes unnecessary interventions.

Also, not every person is in a scenario where they have a ton of options for providers or hospitals.

Agreed, I am just trying to say that a midwife doesn't always trump an OB, a hospital birth isn't always better then a homebirth or vice versus it comes down to the care you receive from those particular care givers in that particular environment

IBackBevo · April 2014

Empireceo said:
For the people curious about why some midwife appointments last an hour, I'll share my experience. My H doesn't come with to every appointment but they do like when he and DS come. We talk about how I'm physically feeling, what concerns I have about my vbac and the home birth in general. If my job or H's job is stressful or noteworthy for some reason, we discuss that. We have discussed how to deal with unsupportive family members who think we are crazy for choosing a home birth. They know and are very fond of my son, and keep track of his development as well as help prepare him to be a big brother and experience a birth in the house. Depending on my ailments, I may have a mini session of acupuncture or cranio sacral therapy with one of the partners of the group. I bet this sounds horrible to some of you but I can't imagine going back to an ob.

Other than the acupuncture, this sounds like my doula appointments.

BeesKnees181 · April 2014

I LOVE camping too! And I can't wait to take our little girls on camping trips this summer. I have already got the side eye about that from some family members. Camping is a big part of our lifestyle, and we are very excited to share that as a family. I foresee zero Disney but many road trips and camping weekends as the girls grow up.

As for the homebirth talk happening - I wish I had it as an option. I do not because of pre-existing conditions and being high risk. I think>>>> to each their own - neither a hospital birth nor a homebirth are "irresponsible." Thank goodness we get to have options as we embark on a huge moment like giving birth in our lives.

britab · April 2014

pistolpackinmomma said:

Also, on the topic of homeschooling depriving kids of social interaction, I guess the same could be said of me being a SAHM instead of putting my kid in daycare. I think with the few play dates we have had he has done great for his age. He likes to greet other kids with a hug and loves to wave at people at the store while we are out. There are ways to socialize kids other than at school. Besides that, anymore it seems as if they are doing everything they can to take the social aspect out of school and make it all about learning. Unless you are going to force your kids to play sports (which a homeschooled kid can play sports too) you can't argue sitting quietly listening to a teacher talk at you for however many hours a day is socializing.

This is not modern education. I teach in Spanish immersion, so yes you do have to listen to me so you can be bilingual but cooperative learning is a part of all we do. We create math centers that integrate technology, paired reading, Readers' Theater plays, presentations, iMovie, digital puppet shows and a lot more. We dissected owl pellets, took care of anoles, researched different countries and used fun rap songs to teach grammar. My life would be a lot easier if I could just talk at kids all day.

Kids are being asked to work with others constantly!

KatieP71312 · April 2014

My prenatal appoi

Empireceo said:

For the people curious about why some midwife appointments last an hour, I'll share my experience. My H doesn't come with to every appointment but they do like when he and DS come. We talk about how I'm physically feeling, what concerns I have about my vbac and the home birth in general. If my job or H's job is stressful or noteworthy for some reason, we discuss that. We have discussed how to deal with unsupportive family members who think we are crazy for choosing a home birth. They know and are very fond of my son, and keep track of his development as well as help prepare him to be a big brother and experience a birth in the house. Depending on my ailments, I may have a mini session of acupuncture or cranio sacral therapy with one of the partners of the group. I bet this sounds horrible to some of you but I can't imagine going back to an ob.

This exactly. The appointment is about me as a person, my family unit AND the baby. They aren't always an hour and I've opted to continue every other week for my own scheduling needs now at almost 37 weeks but I very much enjoy my appointments.

spacepotatoes · April 2014

britab said:

pistolpackinmomma said:

Also, on the topic of homeschooling depriving kids of social interaction, I guess the same could be said of me being a SAHM instead of putting my kid in daycare. I think with the few play dates we have had he has done great for his age. He likes to greet other kids with a hug and loves to wave at people at the store while we are out. There are ways to socialize kids other than at school. Besides that, anymore it seems as if they are doing everything they can to take the social aspect out of school and make it all about learning. Unless you are going to force your kids to play sports (which a homeschooled kid can play sports too) you can't argue sitting quietly listening to a teacher talk at you for however many hours a day is socializing.

This is not modern education. I teach in Spanish immersion, so yes you do have to listen to me so you can be bilingual but cooperative learning is a part of all we do. We create math centers that integrate technology, paired reading, Readers' Theater plays, presentations, iMovie, digital puppet shows and a lot more. We dissected owl pellets, took care of anoles, researched different countries and used fun rap songs to teach grammar. My life would be a lot easier if I could just talk at kids all day. Kids are being asked to work with others constantly!

No kidding! If anyone is still treating their classroom like a lecture hall, they're doing it wrong. Yikes. The focus these days is on collaborative and inquiry based learning, not chalk & talk.

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