I think people without tattoos are trashy! How bout that?!
(But really, this UO has been rehashed a handful of times on our board. Spoiler Alert: it is often concluded that people should not have so many feelings about what others do with their bodies.)
If anyone brings up welfare and drugs, I'm officially jumping ship.
Prepare to jump ship in I'm betting T-minus 2 hours.
Just to clarify, the grandparents are my parents best friends and they complain that the kids are dumped off on them so said mother can go out on the town snd the grandmother has early symptoms of Alzheimer's so shouldn't really be doing the care, she is also my facebook friend and is always posting about spas, workouts and shopping so I don't think, its depression or anything that doesn't allow her to care for her kids... is that the type of way she wants fine I just don't understand why she had children?
Not sure why it's any of your business why she has children. That's awesome that you've personally ruled out depression or anything that would prevent her from caring for her kids during the hours that you deem appropriate.
I can be wrong , I just don't get it also I said I don't think not I know it is not depression.
On the Hobby Lobby debate, I did a paper on this and could go on and on about my view but from a purely financial perspective, it's cheaper to pay for the birth control than the baby. And I will never shop there or work there...
I think people without tattoos are trashy! How bout that?!
(But really, this UO has been rehashed a handful of times on our board. Spoiler Alert: it is often concluded that people should not have so many feelings about what others do with their bodies.)
If anyone brings up welfare and drugs, I'm officially jumping ship.
I like to take drugs and then buy tattoos with my welfare money! BOOM! </horrible kiddingness> (sorry, couldn't resist)
I'm not trashy, I'm just indecisive. I wanted to be a lemming and get a tattoo when I was an exchange student and a bunch of us were getting things pierced and tattooed, but figured if I couldn't decide what to get or where to put it, it meant I should just be moral support.
So this is a silly UO, but I am listening to John Mayer at work and I just thought of it.
UO: I don't really pay attention to celebrity culture in terms of who is dating who, etc. But when there is a a really great "Hollywood" couple, and they break-up, it kind of makes me sad. I think it's because it's like a good, long-lasting, 'normal' celebrity couple is rare, and it kind of sets an example for all the other crazy pairings out there. And to an extent, there are a lot of young people that "look up" to celebrities, so it's nice to have some positive examples for normal relationships.
Like, I'm kind of sad John Mayer and Katy Perry broke up. They seemed to make each other more 'normal' and easier to stand when they were together, instead of just being insane attention whores.
Another, somewhat related UO: I really like John Mayer's music. He's a really great song writer, if you like his style. I think his douchiness in the media gets in the way of people appreciating his talent.
UO: I saw Dallas Buyers' Club and think Matthew McConaughey deserved to win that Oscar.
...but he did win. ? I mean, that's how I remember this year's Oscar show. I have a vivid memory of a somewhat odd, sentimental acceptance speech with way less listing-of-names than usual.
ETA I'm just confused by this, basically. What is the unpopular opinion here?
@Jennyinheaven - You are judging a woman who has three children under the age of six. Do you have any idea how freaking hard that would be? Even if they do go to school and even if the grandparents help out on the weekends, there are still a lot of hours left in the day to be dealing with three YOUNG children. Just getting them all up, fed, dressed and off to school in the morning would be a major accomplishment. I know how hard just one toddler can be! And dinner time/bath time/bed time...oh, that would be an easy task, too. And I doubt if all three of those YOUNG kids STTN every night. Or never get sick. Or never have to go to doctor's appointments. God forbid she occasionally do something for her health/mental sanity to make sure she is around for her kids like (gasp!) go to the gym.
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Just to clarify, the grandparents are my parents best friends and they complain that the kids are dumped off on them so said mother can go out on the town snd the grandmother has early symptoms of Alzheimer's so shouldn't really be doing the care, she is also my facebook friend and is always posting about spas, workouts and shopping so I don't think, its depression or anything that doesn't allow her to care for her kids... is that the type of way she wants fine I just don't understand why she had children?
Not sure why it's any of your business why she has children. That's awesome that you've personally ruled out depression or anything that would prevent her from caring for her kids during the hours that you deem appropriate.
I can be wrong , I just don't get it also I said I don't think not I know it is not depression.
The "so I don't think it's depression" reads as very matter of fact to me. As in if someone is living the high life on FB you cannot believe that they could possibly be struggling with anything in the privacy of their own home. I went to college with a kid who was constantly surrounded by friends, partying, and always seemed to be having fun. He shot himself. Turns out he had some pretty bad depression. FB life and real life are hardly ever the same. Trust me.
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So this is a silly UO, but I am listening to John Mayer at work and I just thought of it.
UO: I don't really pay attention to celebrity culture in terms of who is dating who, etc. But when there is a a really great "Hollywood" couple, and they break-up, it kind of makes me sad. I think it's because it's like a good, long-lasting, 'normal' celebrity couple is rare, and it kind of sets an example for all the other crazy pairings out there. And to an extent, there are a lot of young people that "look up" to celebrities, so it's nice to have some positive examples for normal relationships.
Like, I'm kind of sad John Mayer and Katy Perry broke up. They seemed to make each other more 'normal' and easier to stand when they were together, instead of just being insane attention whores.
Another, somewhat related UO: I really like John Mayer's music. He's a really great song writer, if you like his style. I think his douchiness in the media gets in the way of people appreciating his talent.
Clearly I'm living under a rock because I didn't even realize they broke up again. Maybe this is UO, but I don't think so...I can't stand him as a person, that is IF all the entertainment stories are true about what a prick he is in real life. It sounds like he thinks he's God's gift to women. As for his music though, I totally agree and love his music. I could listen to Room for Squares over and over again.
I'm with @IBackBevo on that 100%. I'm a mother of one until May and still desperately wish for a second string to take over sometimes, or a mom helper like teachers have aides. You are obligated by law to be physically close to the kid all the time, until they're old enough that no busybody will call CPS if they see an unattended child and no creep will snatch them, which means you or some reasonable authority figure needs to be there ALL THE TIME. I love my son and enjoy his company most of the time, but this responsibility and the awareness of it get heavy sometimes.
@Jennyinheaven, if you have kids already, clearly you're much better at it than I am because you apparently don't think a mom needs a break, nor should she have time to herself. Or you're a robot. If you are, I appologize. I didn't mean to out you to the internet.
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UO: I hate what Facebook has turned into. I feel that people post WAY too much about their personal lives and it drives me nuts. An example I saw last night on my news feed from a "friend of a friend" (no clue who this individual is): "Aaah I had a vasectomy and I just found out it didn't work. Now I have to go through it AGAIN!" And later in the comments when people were asking him if his wife was pregnant "no, I just tested my sperm and they are still good". Is this kind of information really necessary? I do have to admit that I am a hypocrite though because it doesn't stop me from reading it.
I'm with @BRackNell on that 100%. I'm a mother of one until May and still desperately wish for a second string to take over sometimes, or a mom helper like teachers have aides. You are obligated by law to be physically close to the kid all the time, until they're old enough that no busybody will call CPS if they see an unattended child and no creep will snatch them, which means you or some reasonable authority figure needs to be there ALL THE TIME. I love my son and enjoy his company most of the time, but this responsibility and the awareness of it get heavy sometimes.
@Jennyinheaven, if you have kids already, clearly you're much better at it than I am because you apparently don't think a mom needs a break, nor should she have time to herself. Or you're a robot. If you are, I appologize. I didn't mean to out you to the internet.
lol not at all, Im obviously not coming across correctly woman absolutely deserve a break, I think it is great and healthy for children to go to school or daycare as well so they can develop a life outside of their mother and be socialized. I in no way think someone should be the sole caregiver of their child just because they are a stay at home mother, I don't think this is good for either the mom or the kid, I just don't get a woman who doesn't seem to want to spend any time with her children, her nanny is live in also. if I'm wrong in this particular case it's not the point, I just wonder about people that would rather not spend time with their children at all but have them.
Branching from the tattoo comment, I just think some woman can pull off a full sleeve and some cant. (As well as other types of tattoos, just using a sleeve as a general example). It also depends on how someone presents themselves.
I hate bumper stickers on cars. The ones that bother me the most are the ones that include you child's name. That is just asking for trouble for strangers to know your kid's name. Also the ones for runners that say 26.2 or 13.1, pretty sure nobody on the road cares how long you can run for. And I'll be damned if a company is getting free advertisement on my car whether it be a dealership or some brand name. Everyone in Florida either has a Salt Life or Browning deer logo on their car.
I hate stick families on cars. They make me stabby - no clue why.
UO: I saw Dallas Buyers' Club and think Matthew McConaughey deserved to win that Oscar.
...but he did win. ? I mean, that's how I remember this year's Oscar show. I have a vivid memory of a somewhat odd, sentimental acceptance speech with way less listing-of-names than usual.
ETA I'm just confused by this, basically. What is the unpopular opinion here?
Hmm..maybe it wasn't as much of a UO as I thought. Lots of people I talked to after the Oscars didn't think he was that great, so I watched the movie and thought he was amazing. I was under the impression that the general consensus was that people weren't that impressed by his performance, with many stating that they always give Oscars to the big physical transformations versus the best performance. Again, just my $0.02.
UO: I saw Dallas Buyers' Club and think Matthew McConaughey deserved to win that Oscar.
...but he did win. ? I mean, that's how I remember this year's Oscar show. I have a vivid memory of a somewhat odd, sentimental acceptance speech with way less listing-of-names than usual.
ETA I'm just confused by this, basically. What is the unpopular opinion here?
Hmm..maybe it wasn't as much of a UO as I thought. Lots of people I talked to after the Oscars didn't think he was that great, so I watched the movie and thought he was amazing. I was under the impression that the general consensus was that people weren't that impressed by his performance, with many stating that they always give Oscars to the big physical transformations versus the best performance. Again, just my $0.02.
I've heard there was some backlash/grumbling among gay and trans people that the actors weren't gay or trans... but that might've been for Jared Leto's role.
Before I saw the Oscars, I actually thought Dallas Buyer's Club was a movie about real estate tycoons in Texas, an opinion formed from what I saw with the crappy reception I get here under my rock. Your UO just made me stop and wonder about the trustworthiness of my memory is all.
My UO: I hate what Facebook has turned into. I feel that people post WAY too much about their personal lives and it drives me nuts. An example I saw last night on my news feed from a "friend of a friend" (no clue who this individual is): "Aaah I had a vasectomy and I just found out it didn't work. Now I have to go through it AGAIN!" And later in the comments when people were asking him if his wife was pregnant "no, I just tested my sperm and they are still good". Is this kind of information really necessary? I do have to admit that I am a hypocrite though because it doesn't stop me from reading it.
Same here. I find most posts are either bragging, complaining about stuff like the weather or jobs or political. I only stay on for networking because I run a business and to see my friend's pictures.
Let's not define the Hobby Lobby anti-birth control debate as a Christian versus non-Christian debate. I am a Christian and I have no problem with birth control or the morning after pill, etc.
And I completely agree with @Ale515's argument that an employer doesn't get to decide how an employee uses his or her paycheck so they also should not get to decide how the employee uses their health insurance.
I am sure there are some absurd employers out there who believe that employees of a certain age, race, social status, etc. shouldn't have kids. Does that mean that numb nut employer should be able to dictate that the employee doesn't get maternity coverage?
Or maybe the employer is part of the anti-vax movement. Should the employer be able to say their insurance doesn't cover routine vaccinations?
I was just stating that it has been documented that they are "ok" with birth control pills and whatnot.... If you want my honest opinion about the whole thing, I really think this is a way to rehash the argument of what constitutes an abortion. I personally believe that birth control should be free and easier to access! I also think that this whole argument put Hobby Lobby on the "map". Another way to get your name out there. I also believe that there are inconsistent laws and regulations...which is gonna happen. That's where my breast pump comment came from. If every insurance is supposed to supply breast pumps, then do it... No grandfather policies. Same with birth control, if it's a requirement, then it has to be with every single insurance, every company. There are simply too many ways to get out of something, and those are just two examples. If every kid is supposed to have certain vaccines, then why are there so many different ways to get out of it. I'm just saying, laws just seem to be "suggestions" when there are so many loopholes that make it easier for people to get out of them. I understand hobby lobby is a religious company, but if religion can't be in public schools, why is it allowed in public businesses. This argument can go on and on...good thing I'm not crafty!
@Jennyinheaven Are you in heaven because you don't have any children yet and, as such, don't know about the extremely stressful, tiring job coming your way? Is it because you sleep well at night judging other people about whom you know so little (sorry honey, facebook is not reality.)
I think it sounds like this is the case. Maybe we should start a clicky-poll on how many people think you will change your username to Jennyinhell before the first year is over because you will become something you "just don't understand."
@Tattoos One person's trashy is another one's.....wait, that isn't the saying
@Hobby Lobby I feel like ALL of my clients talk about this. I don't really see why the government passing a law that someone (some major corporation if you will) finds offensive is news. This happens all the time.....every. single. piece of legislation passed is subject to one group or another getting pissed.....no one else gets their way about it, so why should Hobby Lobby.
I'm with @BRackNell on that 100%. I'm a mother of one until May and still desperately wish for a second string to take over sometimes, or a mom helper like teachers have aides. You are obligated by law to be physically close to the kid all the time, until they're old enough that no busybody will call CPS if they see an unattended child and no creep will snatch them, which means you or some reasonable authority figure needs to be there ALL THE TIME. I love my son and enjoy his company most of the time, but this responsibility and the awareness of it get heavy sometimes.
@Jennyinheaven, if you have kids already, clearly you're much better at it than I am because you apparently don't think a mom needs a break, nor should she have time to herself. Or you're a robot. If you are, I appologize. I didn't mean to out you to the internet.
lol not at all, Im obviously not coming across correctly woman absolutely deserve a break, I think it is great and healthy for children to go to school or daycare as well so they can develop a life outside of their mother and be socialized. I in no way think someone should be the sole caregiver of their child just because they are a stay at home mother, I don't think this is good for either the mom or the kid, I just don't get a woman who doesn't seem to want to spend any time with her children, her nanny is live in also. if I'm wrong in this particular case it's not the point, I just wonder about people that would rather not spend time with their children at all but have them.
1. How on earth did Bevo turn into Bracknell? Who is Bracknell? Did I break the internet?
2. Every parent needs to find the sweet spot between being with her kids and having room to breathe and then do what he or she can to make that balance happen. What you're saying seems directly self-contradictory, because you agree that moms need a break but then say this particular woman has too much time to herself and should've never had kids in the first place. By that reasoning, the families where both parents work not because they must but because both of them enjoy their jobs should not have had children either. Upper class Victorians should've died out, because their kids were turned over first to a nurse in the early years and then eventually to boarding schools and governesses. People who work full time shouldn't have dogs either, then, because they leave the dog either with someone else or alone a lot of the time.
I mostly just want you to see the inconsistencies of what you're saying.
It's my favourite movie of this year and I agree that both actors deserved their oscars. However, IMO Jared Leto totally stole that movie. He was amazing. Without spoiling it for those who haven't seen it, I got genuinely emotional towards the end. I've not been that invested in a character in a long time.
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10/23/13 - 12wks 3d - Perfect NT scan! HB 167 & baby wriggling, waving & yawning!
12/17/13 - 20wks 2 d - We're having a beautiful baby girl! Go Team Pink!
05/03/14 - Bobbie Gloria was born at 39+6 weighing 6lb 14oz!
Let's not define the Hobby Lobby anti-birth control debate as a Christian versus non-Christian debate. I am a Christian and I have no problem with birth control or the morning after pill, etc.
And I completely agree with @Ale515's argument that an employer doesn't get to decide how an employee uses his or her paycheck so they also should not get to decide how the employee uses their health insurance.
I am sure there are some absurd employers out there who believe that employees of a certain age, race, social status, etc. shouldn't have kids. Does that mean that numb nut employer should be able to dictate that the employee doesn't get maternity coverage?
Or maybe the employer is part of the anti-vax movement. Should the employer be able to say their insurance doesn't cover routine vaccinations?
I was just stating that it has been documented that they are "ok" with birth control pills and whatnot.... If you want my honest opinion about the whole thing, I really think this is a way to rehash the argument of what constitutes an abortion. I personally believe that birth control should be free and easier to access! I also think that this whole argument put Hobby Lobby on the "map". Another way to get your name out there. I also believe that there are inconsistent laws and regulations...which is gonna happen. That's where my breast pump comment came from. If every insurance is supposed to supply breast pumps, then do it... No grandfather policies. Same with birth control, if it's a requirement, then it has to be with every single insurance, every company. There are simply too many ways to get out of something, and those are just two examples. If every kid is supposed to have certain vaccines, then why are there so many different ways to get out of it. I'm just saying, laws just seem to be "suggestions" when there are so many loopholes that make it easier for people to get out of them. I understand hobby lobby is a religious company, but if religion can't be in public schools, why is it allowed in public businesses. This argument can go on and on...good thing I'm not crafty!
One teeny tiny correction: public vs private. As far as I know, Hobby Lobby is a private company. Schools are often (but not always) public, and companies are often (but not always) private.
Some people think a private company should be able to have whatever policies they want, including total jackass policies, and then let the public either support or shun the company instead of making laws. I'm on the fence about that, but it is interesting to try and think out the consequences and repercussions of such a system.
They're clearly trying to get a corporate citizen treatment for religious freedom. This is yet another one of those conservative viewpoints that I can't understand (not saying all conservatives believe this, but it's a mainstream conservative interpretation). So the first amendment should be broadly interpreted to apply to companies as well as people, but the second amendment should be literally interpreted to mean that we all need guns. It feels inconsistent to me. I'm not super principled in my spending, but I can say I will never set foot in a Hobby Lobby.
I'm replying on the Hobby Lobby bit before reading everything so forgive me if I missed some important points. But THIS ^^^ times 10. Although the current Supreme Court seems intent on changing this, a corporation cannot be "religious"--it is a corporation, not a human being. Corporations do not have the same rights as individuals. Furthermore, the "rights" they are claiming as a religious organization directly impede the rights of their employees, under the new law. The ACA continues the link in this country between employment and health insurance (which in my mind is the bigger, underlying problem). But as long as we have that system, a corporation should not get to pick and choose what parts of the law they want to comply with based on religious beliefs.
Someone else said something about Hobby Lobby only opposing termination of pregnancy, not BC. That's not actually true, that's HL's interpretation of certain forms of birth control.
My UO, among some, is that I don't believe opposition to birth control based on religion is a legitimate argument. Religious codes are constructed by humans (perhaps another UO). I believe opposition to birth control is fundamentally anti-woman and anti-poor. Because that is who suffers the most when access to birth control is made difficult.
Re. the doctors always being late. My father was a doctor who was always late. For him, he is both not a punctual person but also took his time with patients and paperwork. He didn't want to make a single mistake. And I respect that. I've been frustrated with my OB clinic because they have made me wait hours sometimes. Sometimes it's an emergency and they tell me that, and I totally understand. Other times, it seems to be a scheduling error. Like the doctors all had a meeting first thing in the morning at the hospital, but they scheduled me anyway. I know from my dad's experience that it was hard to get the scheduling lined up with the doctor's schedules a lot of the time--there were a lot of errors made and patients inconvenienced. So it's not always that the doctors are disrespectful, but sometimes the office is just not well run or there is a single employee who makes errors scheduling patients when they shouldn't.
Can I just say that I'm terribly bitter about embryos not implanting? Because by that count I've had 10 miscarriages just counting the IVF embryos that didn't make it. If I kept track like that I'd be an emotional disaster zone. Hell, if you wanted to keep track of the ones that fertilized but didn't implant I'd be counting in the 20s by now. I like to torture my dozens of spawn by letting them think they have a chance and then putting them back into my Teflon coated uterus to die. Kinda puts the "birth control is abortion" argument in perspective for me.
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I think he is a fake d-bag and hate his music. Especially, can't stand "You're Body is a Wonderland" and the one about daughters- ugh. I was really not surprised that he and Katy Perry broke up. I was more like finally she came to her senses.
Seriously, why in the world does he get so many famous, beautiful girlfriends. Doesn't his track record and the fact that he isn't that great make them realize not to date him.
Also the same goes with Wilmer Valderrama. I don't see the appeal. Do they glamour the girls they want to date?
I don't even know who that is, and without googling I'm going to say famous chicks can't resist the name Valderrama. (In my imagination, Wilmer Valderrama sounds like a reasonable name for the 'beetus man, so if I'm right, it's either the name or the epic mustache they can't resist.)
I think he is a fake d-bag and hate his music. Especially, can't stand "You're Body is a Wonderland" and the one about daughters- ugh. I was really not surprised that he and Katy Perry broke up. I was more like finally she came to her senses.
Seriously, why in the world does he get so many famous, beautiful girlfriends. Doesn't his track record and the fact that he isn't that great make them realize not to date him.
Also the same goes with Wilmer Valderrama. I don't see the appeal. Do they glamour the girls they want to date?
I don't even know who that is, and without googling I'm going to say famous chicks can't resist the name Valderrama. (In my imagination, Wilmer Valderrama sounds like a reasonable name for the 'beetus man, so if I'm right, it's either the name or the epic mustache they can't resist.)
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Fez from that 70s show. First and last thing he did. Thing is, whenever I see him I just hear Fez.
09/23/11 - Married DH
04/01/13 - BFP at 4wks
05/30/13 - MMC - BO @ 12wks 5d
08/29/13 - BFP @ 4wks 4d
09/17/13 - 7wks 2d - Normal HB Detected! Baby measuring perfect for dates and positioning!
10/23/13 - 12wks 3d - Perfect NT scan! HB 167 & baby wriggling, waving & yawning!
12/17/13 - 20wks 2 d - We're having a beautiful baby girl! Go Team Pink!
05/03/14 - Bobbie Gloria was born at 39+6 weighing 6lb 14oz!
Re: the timeliness of doctors issue. It nerves me to no end that people complain about this. I get that your time is valuable and all, but say you were in with the doctor in the midst of your appointment and he suddenly stopped you mid-question because he had to keep his schedule and abruptly moved on to the next patient. There is no doubt in my mind that you'd be here bitching about how he was so abrupt and left w/o answering your questions, etc.
The business of babies is so unpredictable. If my doctor is running late or at a delivery during my scheduled appt, the nurses will call and see if I still want to come in or reschedule.
I just can't understand why people get irritated about this.
Re: the timeliness of doctors issue. It nerves me to no end that people complain about this. I get that your time is valuable and all, but say you were in with the doctor in the midst of your appointment and he suddenly stopped you mid-question because he had to keep his schedule and abruptly moved on to the next patient. There is no doubt in my mind that you'd be here bitching about how he was so abrupt and left w/o answering your questions, etc.
The business of babies is so unpredictable. If my doctor is running late or at a delivery during my scheduled appt, the nurses will call and see if I still want to come in or reschedule.
I just can't understand why people get irritated about this.
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I agree. I sort of expect to have to wait around when I have medical appointments. I like to think that if I had a problem that needed seeing to immediately, people would be understanding and not sit there bitching about it.
I had to go in for bloods a couple of months back, but it took 4 hours because 2 women came in and went straight to l&d. I didn't mind because I hope I'll be treated the same way when it's my turn to drop this critter.
09/23/11 - Married DH
04/01/13 - BFP at 4wks
05/30/13 - MMC - BO @ 12wks 5d
08/29/13 - BFP @ 4wks 4d
09/17/13 - 7wks 2d - Normal HB Detected! Baby measuring perfect for dates and positioning!
10/23/13 - 12wks 3d - Perfect NT scan! HB 167 & baby wriggling, waving & yawning!
12/17/13 - 20wks 2 d - We're having a beautiful baby girl! Go Team Pink!
05/03/14 - Bobbie Gloria was born at 39+6 weighing 6lb 14oz!
Re: the timeliness of doctors issue. It nerves me to no end that people complain about this. I get that your time is valuable and all, but say you were in with the doctor in the midst of your appointment and he suddenly stopped you mid-question because he had to keep his schedule and abruptly moved on to the next patient. There is no doubt in my mind that you'd be here bitching about how he was so abrupt and left w/o answering your questions, etc.
The business of babies is so unpredictable. If my doctor is running late or at a delivery during my scheduled appt, the nurses will call and see if I still want to come in or reschedule.
I just can't understand why people get irritated about this.
This times 1000!! I know I have been that pain in the ass that has had to be squeezed in for a non-emergency emergency check up due to bleeding or decreased movement. Yes my last second ultrasound and visit with the dr to get my questions answered may have just took you from being 30 minutes behind to 45-60 minutes behind and for that I apologize. But I would like to think that other patients are understanding enough to realize that if in my shoes they would want/demand the same level of care as I was receiving. I don't think I'm any more special than anyone else but if I didn't receive that kind of care I would be looking for a new dr.
My friend's OB is always on time. But when she was having heavy cramping and period like bleeding they took an hour to call her back and told her to go to the ER because they didn't have any openings. No they couldn't have stopped her m/c but it would have been reassuring to have a familiar face instead of whoever was in the ER take care of you. I had some first tri bleeding, called and they told me to come in immediately. As soon as I walked in I was next on the list. They took me back for an u/s then I saw the dr to get an explanation and what to expect from there on out. I had probably 15-20 minutes with the sonographer and probably 30 minutes with the dr. Now you tell me which experience you'd rather have. I'll wait for 30-45 minutes in the waiting room beyond my appointment time and give him the benefit of the doubt. Especially since I'm also the asshole with a huge list of questions a lot of times.
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Exactly @pistolpackinmomma, I'm probably a bit more understanding because I know I've been the one to throw off appts so they could squeeze me in for bleeding or whatever.
I also understand that there are other mothers there who have legit concerns and questions and might be going through something pretty shitty, so I'll gladly wait 30+ minutes beyond my appt time so they can get their questions or fears addressed. I know I'd want the same respect.
Kaylee524 That is a damn good ratio! Homeless shelters, food banks, children's homes, make-a-wish, toys for tots and things like that where there are lots of tangibles involved are amazing with what they can pull off on a shoe-string.
Honestly I can understand up to 50% going to operating costs that's a realistic amount for staffing, promotion, buildings/storage etc. A "charity" bringing in millions but only spending 2% on the actual program is insane, there are companies that are more philanthropic than that!
I, too work for a non-profit. I think it's unfortunate that so many people have the opinion that all charities are a sham. I think part of that is our (the non-profit's) fault for not promoting our work better. My organization is a worldwide one, and almost everyone I talk to says, "Oh, I know that name, but I don't know what you guys actually do". If we could get better about promoting the work being done in our local communities, I think people would actually be quite impressed. But, of course, promotion takes dollars, and that is always an issue
Also, at my particular place of work, we run our own internal programs in addition to funding many other programs at other non-profits. When deciding who to fund, we have a requirement that they must have less than 25% of their budget be spent on management fees. If a company is only spending 2% on actual programming, that is pretty bad!
Late doctors drive DH nuts. I just see it as some quiet zen time. I mean, I could get worked up over having my day thrown off by an appointment running two hours late (happened before) or I could watch some terrible daytime television and go with the flow. But I also block off entire afternoons/mornings for doctors visits because I've done this dance enough to know that I'm the only one who's schedule I can control.
Friends for 17 years. Married 10. TTC since Jan 2009.
2012: Lost "Peanut" at 17weeks to PTL/IC.
2013: IVF#3/FET#4 Elisabeth CJ born April 30, 2014 Cerclage, P17, and 3 months of bed rest brought us our Rainbow.
I'm with @ThereBeDragons. My time is very valuable, too... BUT I have done this enough to know there are just things that can't be controlled for. If I have a doctor's appointment--especially an OB appointment--I pretty well plan on blocking out half a day. I play on my phone and relax or take work with me and get something accomplished.
The only thing that really gets me irritated is when I ask, "How long will it be?" and the staff tells me a time, I make decisions off of that and it is ridiculously underestimated. I had this happen with a pedi appointment a couple of weeks ago. They told me when I checked in that the doctor was running 15 minutes behind. This was important because the appointment was a non-urgent appointment for DS (just a follow-up to have his ears checked to see if his infection had cleared) and he was in a horrible mood and I knew he would not tolerate waiting for hours. Literally, 2 hours and 5 tantrums later, I still had not been seen. But that was a little different situation. Waiting in the OB's office is different, though, than waiting with a screaming toddler.
IF DX: DOR & Fragile X pre-mutation carrier
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54
2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4; BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
Spinning off from the John Mayer posts, I don't buy the empowerment shtick Katy Perry is selling. Her song lyrics say one thing but her actions and personality tell another story. I think she'd benefit from truly believing some of those empowering lyrics she was singing. And also, her live singing voice sucks.
Re: the timeliness of doctors issue. It nerves me to no end that people complain about this. I get that your time is valuable and all, but say you were in with the doctor in the midst of your appointment and he suddenly stopped you mid-question because he had to keep his schedule and abruptly moved on to the next patient. There is no doubt in my mind that you'd be here bitching about how he was so abrupt and left w/o answering your questions, etc.
The business of babies is so unpredictable. If my doctor is running late or at a delivery during my scheduled appt, the nurses will call and see if I still want to come in or reschedule.
I just can't understand why people get irritated about this.
K usually when my OB has to run to the hospital to deliver a baby or has some sort of emergency she has to cancel a lot of appointments and I get a call for that and I honestly truly appreciate that call. It's when she knows she's running behind and doesn't give me a heads up. I mean if I have an emergency at work and I have a meeting scheduled, I call the client and let them know I'll be late or I cancel/reschedule. Sometimes I have numerous meetings in one day and I have to call a bunch of different clients, it takes me no time at all and clients appreciate it because I value their time. I don't understand why it's so hard to call me and just say, "I know your appointment is for 1:15pm but can you possibly come in at 2pm instead as we're running behind." Two second message/phone call.
Every appointment I'm waiting 30mins plus. I actually never know how long I'll be waiting but I know it's at least 30mins. Every.Single. Appointment. No phone call unless she had an emergency at the hospital then I get a call cancelling.
It's frustrating. It's fine that you've accepted that doctors are never on time and are okay with it. I find it frustrating. I'm only human.
ETA: I have definitely been rushed out of an appointment by a doctor....I have no problem with it.. If there's nothing pressing/important to discuss then get me out of there.
@Rocknroll64, but that's precisely my point, doctors aren't going to know that Jill has a million questions or needs something explained, or when they move on to the next room that Janet will have no questions. Why call and say can you come in 20 minutes later if they make up that time by Janet not having any questions.
I get why you'd want a call in any other circumstance or profession, I just don't think this is one where you should expect it.
@Rocknroll64, but that's precisely my point, doctors aren't going to know that Jill has a million questions or needs something explained, or when they move on to the next room that Janet will have no questions. Why call and say can you come in 20 minutes later if they make up that time by Janet not having any questions.
I get why you'd want a call in any other circumstance or profession, I just don't think this is one where you should expect it.
I just think that if you're running behind every day and making your patients wait for their scheduled appointments by more than 30 minutes everyday something needs to change. I mean it's gotta be frustrating for the doctor too right? Being rushed and late for every appointment? That would suck.
Late doctors drive DH nuts. I just see it as some quiet zen time. I mean, I could get worked up over having my day thrown off by an appointment running two hours late (happened before) or I could watch some terrible daytime television and go with the flow. But I also block off entire afternoons/mornings for doctors visits because I've done this dance enough to know that I'm the only one who's schedule I can control.
It bothers me sometimes....but only when I have my DD and she's gone nuts. But if I'm alone I've started to bring a book.....It's the only time I can think during the day, may as well use it. I also use it as work time........
Re: UO
I can be wrong , I just don't get it also I said I don't think not I know it is not depression.
I'm not trashy, I'm just indecisive. I wanted to be a lemming and get a tattoo when I was an exchange student and a bunch of us were getting things pierced and tattooed, but figured if I couldn't decide what to get or where to put it, it meant I should just be moral support.
...but he did win. ? I mean, that's how I remember this year's Oscar show. I have a vivid memory of a somewhat odd, sentimental acceptance speech with way less listing-of-names than usual.
ETA I'm just confused by this, basically. What is the unpopular opinion here?
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54 2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4;
BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
May 2014 January Siggy Challenge:
The "so I don't think it's depression" reads as very matter of fact to me. As in if someone is living the high life on FB you cannot believe that they could possibly be struggling with anything in the privacy of their own home. I went to college with a kid who was constantly surrounded by friends, partying, and always seemed to be having fun. He shot himself. Turns out he had some pretty bad depression. FB life and real life are hardly ever the same. Trust me.
@Jennyinheaven, if you have kids already, clearly you're much better at it than I am because you apparently don't think a mom needs a break, nor should she have time to herself. Or you're a robot. If you are, I appologize. I didn't mean to out you to the internet.
I've heard there was some backlash/grumbling among gay and trans people that the actors weren't gay or trans... but that might've been for Jared Leto's role.
Before I saw the Oscars, I actually thought Dallas Buyer's Club was a movie about real estate tycoons in Texas, an opinion formed from what I saw with the crappy reception I get here under my rock. Your UO just made me stop and wonder about the trustworthiness of my memory is all.
2. Every parent needs to find the sweet spot between being with her kids and having room to breathe and then do what he or she can to make that balance happen. What you're saying seems directly self-contradictory, because you agree that moms need a break but then say this particular woman has too much time to herself and should've never had kids in the first place. By that reasoning, the families where both parents work not because they must but because both of them enjoy their jobs should not have had children either. Upper class Victorians should've died out, because their kids were turned over first to a nurse in the early years and then eventually to boarding schools and governesses. People who work full time shouldn't have dogs either, then, because they leave the dog either with someone else or alone a lot of the time.
I mostly just want you to see the inconsistencies of what you're saying.
It's my favourite movie of this year and I agree that both actors deserved their oscars. However, IMO Jared Leto totally stole that movie. He was amazing. Without spoiling it for those who haven't seen it, I got genuinely emotional towards the end. I've not been that invested in a character in a long time.
09/23/11 - Married DH
04/01/13 - BFP at 4wks
05/30/13 - MMC - BO @ 12wks 5d
08/29/13 - BFP @ 4wks 4d
09/17/13 - 7wks 2d - Normal HB Detected! Baby measuring perfect for dates and positioning!
10/23/13 - 12wks 3d - Perfect NT scan! HB 167 & baby wriggling, waving & yawning!
12/17/13 - 20wks 2 d - We're having a beautiful baby girl! Go Team Pink!
05/03/14 - Bobbie Gloria was born at 39+6 weighing 6lb 14oz!
Some people think a private company should be able to have whatever policies they want, including total jackass policies, and then let the public either support or shun the company instead of making laws. I'm on the fence about that, but it is interesting to try and think out the consequences and repercussions of such a system.
Friends for 17 years. Married 10. TTC since Jan 2009.
2013: IVF#3/FET#4 Elisabeth CJ born April 30, 2014
Cerclage, P17, and 3 months of bed rest brought us our Rainbow.
Dum spiro, spero.
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Fez from that 70s show. First and last thing he did. Thing is, whenever I see him I just hear Fez.
09/23/11 - Married DH
04/01/13 - BFP at 4wks
05/30/13 - MMC - BO @ 12wks 5d
08/29/13 - BFP @ 4wks 4d
09/17/13 - 7wks 2d - Normal HB Detected! Baby measuring perfect for dates and positioning!
10/23/13 - 12wks 3d - Perfect NT scan! HB 167 & baby wriggling, waving & yawning!
12/17/13 - 20wks 2 d - We're having a beautiful baby girl! Go Team Pink!
05/03/14 - Bobbie Gloria was born at 39+6 weighing 6lb 14oz!
The business of babies is so unpredictable. If my doctor is running late or at a delivery during my scheduled appt, the nurses will call and see if I still want to come in or reschedule.
I just can't understand why people get irritated about this.
I agree. I sort of expect to have to wait around when I have medical appointments. I like to think that if I had a problem that needed seeing to immediately, people would be understanding and not sit there bitching about it.
I had to go in for bloods a couple of months back, but it took 4 hours because 2 women came in and went straight to l&d. I didn't mind because I hope I'll be treated the same way when it's my turn to drop this critter.
09/23/11 - Married DH
04/01/13 - BFP at 4wks
05/30/13 - MMC - BO @ 12wks 5d
08/29/13 - BFP @ 4wks 4d
09/17/13 - 7wks 2d - Normal HB Detected! Baby measuring perfect for dates and positioning!
10/23/13 - 12wks 3d - Perfect NT scan! HB 167 & baby wriggling, waving & yawning!
12/17/13 - 20wks 2 d - We're having a beautiful baby girl! Go Team Pink!
05/03/14 - Bobbie Gloria was born at 39+6 weighing 6lb 14oz!
My friend's OB is always on time. But when she was having heavy cramping and period like bleeding they took an hour to call her back and told her to go to the ER because they didn't have any openings. No they couldn't have stopped her m/c but it would have been reassuring to have a familiar face instead of whoever was in the ER take care of you. I had some first tri bleeding, called and they told me to come in immediately. As soon as I walked in I was next on the list. They took me back for an u/s then I saw the dr to get an explanation and what to expect from there on out. I had probably 15-20 minutes with the sonographer and probably 30 minutes with the dr. Now you tell me which experience you'd rather have. I'll wait for 30-45 minutes in the waiting room beyond my appointment time and give him the benefit of the doubt. Especially since I'm also the asshole with a huge list of questions a lot of times.
I also understand that there are other mothers there who have legit concerns and questions and might be going through something pretty shitty, so I'll gladly wait 30+ minutes beyond my appt time so they can get their questions or fears addressed. I know I'd want the same respect.
Also, at my particular place of work, we run our own internal programs in addition to funding many other programs at other non-profits. When deciding who to fund, we have a requirement that they must have less than 25% of their budget be spent on management fees. If a company is only spending 2% on actual programming, that is pretty bad!
Friends for 17 years. Married 10. TTC since Jan 2009.
2013: IVF#3/FET#4 Elisabeth CJ born April 30, 2014
Cerclage, P17, and 3 months of bed rest brought us our Rainbow.
Dum spiro, spero.
I'm with @ThereBeDragons. My time is very valuable, too... BUT I have done this enough to know there are just things that can't be controlled for. If I have a doctor's appointment--especially an OB appointment--I pretty well plan on blocking out half a day. I play on my phone and relax or take work with me and get something accomplished.
The only thing that really gets me irritated is when I ask, "How long will it be?" and the staff tells me a time, I make decisions off of that and it is ridiculously underestimated. I had this happen with a pedi appointment a couple of weeks ago. They told me when I checked in that the doctor was running 15 minutes behind. This was important because the appointment was a non-urgent appointment for DS (just a follow-up to have his ears checked to see if his infection had cleared) and he was in a horrible mood and I knew he would not tolerate waiting for hours. Literally, 2 hours and 5 tantrums later, I still had not been seen. But that was a little different situation. Waiting in the OB's office is different, though, than waiting with a screaming toddler.
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54 2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4;
BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
May 2014 January Siggy Challenge:
I get why you'd want a call in any other circumstance or profession, I just don't think this is one where you should expect it.