May 2014 Moms

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  • ykristos said:
    I think people without tattoos are trashy! How bout that?! (But really, this UO has been rehashed a handful of times on our board. Spoiler Alert: it is often concluded that people should not have so many feelings about what others do with their bodies.) If anyone brings up welfare and drugs, I'm officially jumping ship.
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  • IBackBevo said:

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    Just to clarify, the grandparents are my parents best friends and they complain that the kids are dumped off on them so said mother can go out on the town snd the grandmother has early symptoms of Alzheimer's so shouldn't really be doing the care, she is also my facebook friend and is always posting about spas, workouts and shopping so I don't think, its depression or anything that doesn't allow her to care for her kids... is that the type of way she wants fine I just don't understand why she had children?

    Not sure why it's any of your business why she has children.  That's awesome that you've personally ruled out depression or anything that would prevent her from caring for her kids during the hours that you deem appropriate.


    I can be wrong , I just don't get it also I said I don't think not I know it is not depression.
  • UO: I saw Dallas Buyers' Club and think Matthew McConaughey deserved to win that Oscar.
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  • MrsKTen said:
    UO: I saw Dallas Buyers' Club and think Matthew McConaughey deserved to win that Oscar.
    Is this really a UO? Because I totally agree he deserved to win.
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  • So this is a silly UO, but I am listening to John Mayer at work and I just thought of it.

    UO: I don't really pay attention to celebrity culture in terms of who is dating who, etc. But when there is a a really great "Hollywood" couple, and they break-up, it kind of makes me sad. I think it's because it's like a good, long-lasting, 'normal' celebrity couple is rare, and it kind of sets an example for all the other crazy pairings out there. And to an extent, there are a lot of young people that "look up" to celebrities, so it's nice to have some positive examples for normal relationships.

    Like, I'm kind of sad John Mayer and Katy Perry broke up. They seemed to make each other more 'normal' and easier to stand when they were together, instead of just being insane attention whores.

    Another, somewhat related UO: I really like John Mayer's music. He's a really great song writer, if you like his style. I think his douchiness in the media gets in the way of people appreciating his talent.
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  • sisterjanetsisterjanet member
    edited March 2014

    MrsKTen said:
    UO: I saw Dallas Buyers' Club and think Matthew McConaughey deserved to win that Oscar.
    ...but he did win.  ?  I mean, that's how I remember this year's Oscar show.  I have a vivid memory of a somewhat odd, sentimental acceptance speech with way less listing-of-names than usual. 

    ETA I'm just confused by this, basically.  What is the unpopular opinion here?


  • IBackBevo said:

    SNIP

    Just to clarify, the grandparents are my parents best friends and they complain that the kids are dumped off on them so said mother can go out on the town snd the grandmother has early symptoms of Alzheimer's so shouldn't really be doing the care, she is also my facebook friend and is always posting about spas, workouts and shopping so I don't think, its depression or anything that doesn't allow her to care for her kids... is that the type of way she wants fine I just don't understand why she had children?

    Not sure why it's any of your business why she has children.  That's awesome that you've personally ruled out depression or anything that would prevent her from caring for her kids during the hours that you deem appropriate.
    I can be wrong , I just don't get it also I said I don't think not I know it is not depression.

    The "so I don't think it's depression" reads as very matter of fact to me. As in if someone is living the high life on FB you cannot believe that they could possibly be struggling with anything in the privacy of their own home. I went to college with a kid who was constantly surrounded by friends, partying, and always seemed to be having fun. He shot himself. Turns out he had some pretty bad depression. FB life and real life are hardly ever the same. Trust me.

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  • So this is a silly UO, but I am listening to John Mayer at work and I just thought of it.

    UO: I don't really pay attention to celebrity culture in terms of who is dating who, etc. But when there is a a really great "Hollywood" couple, and they break-up, it kind of makes me sad. I think it's because it's like a good, long-lasting, 'normal' celebrity couple is rare, and it kind of sets an example for all the other crazy pairings out there. And to an extent, there are a lot of young people that "look up" to celebrities, so it's nice to have some positive examples for normal relationships.

    Like, I'm kind of sad John Mayer and Katy Perry broke up. They seemed to make each other more 'normal' and easier to stand when they were together, instead of just being insane attention whores.

    Another, somewhat related UO: I really like John Mayer's music. He's a really great song writer, if you like his style. I think his douchiness in the media gets in the way of people appreciating his talent.
    Clearly I'm living under a rock because I didn't even realize they broke up again. Maybe this is UO, but I don't think so...I can't stand him as a person, that is IF all the entertainment stories are true about what a prick he is in real life. It sounds like he thinks he's God's gift to women. As for his music though, I totally agree and love his music. I could listen to Room for Squares over and over again.
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  • My UO: I hate what Facebook has turned into. I feel that people post WAY too much about their personal lives and it drives me nuts. An example I saw last night on my news feed from a "friend of a friend" (no clue who this individual is): "Aaah I had a vasectomy and I just found out it didn't work. Now I have to go through it AGAIN!" And later in the comments when people were asking him if his wife was pregnant "no, I just tested my sperm and they are still good". Is this kind of information really necessary? I do have to admit that I am a hypocrite though because it doesn't stop me from reading it.



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  • JennyinheavenJennyinheaven member
    edited March 2014

    I'm with @BRackNell on that 100%.  I'm a mother of one until May and still desperately wish for a second string to take over sometimes, or a mom helper like teachers have aides.  You are obligated by law to be physically close to the kid all the time, until they're old enough that no busybody will call CPS if they see an unattended child and no creep will snatch them, which means you or some reasonable authority figure needs to be there ALL THE TIME.  I love my son and enjoy his company most of the time, but this responsibility and the awareness of it get heavy sometimes.

    @Jennyinheaven, if you have kids already, clearly you're much better at it than I am because you apparently don't think a mom needs a break, nor should she have time to herself.  Or you're a robot.  If you are, I appologize.  I didn't mean to out you to the internet.

    lol not at all, Im obviously not coming across correctly woman absolutely deserve a break, I think it is great and healthy for children to go to school or daycare as well so they can develop a life outside of their mother and be socialized. I in no way think someone should be the sole caregiver of their child just because they are a stay at home mother, I don't think this is good for either the mom or the kid, I just don't get a woman who doesn't seem to want to spend any time with her children, her nanny is live in also. if I'm wrong in this particular case it's not the point, I just wonder about people that would rather not spend time with their children at all but have them.

  • Branching from the tattoo comment, I just think some woman can pull off a full sleeve and some cant. (As well as other types of tattoos, just using a sleeve as a general example). It also depends on how someone presents themselves.

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  • MrsKTen said:
    UO: I saw Dallas Buyers' Club and think Matthew McConaughey deserved to win that Oscar.
    ...but he did win.  ?  I mean, that's how I remember this year's Oscar show.  I have a vivid memory of a somewhat odd, sentimental acceptance speech with way less listing-of-names than usual. 

    ETA I'm just confused by this, basically.  What is the unpopular opinion here?
    Hmm..maybe it wasn't as much of a UO as I thought.  Lots of people I talked to after the Oscars didn't think he was that great, so I watched the movie and thought he was amazing.  I was under the impression that the general consensus was that people weren't that impressed by his performance, with many stating that they always give Oscars to the big physical transformations versus the best performance.  Again, just my $0.02.
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  • MrsKTen said:

    MrsKTen said:
    UO: I saw Dallas Buyers' Club and think Matthew McConaughey deserved to win that Oscar.
    ...but he did win.  ?  I mean, that's how I remember this year's Oscar show.  I have a vivid memory of a somewhat odd, sentimental acceptance speech with way less listing-of-names than usual. 

    ETA I'm just confused by this, basically.  What is the unpopular opinion here?
    Hmm..maybe it wasn't as much of a UO as I thought.  Lots of people I talked to after the Oscars didn't think he was that great, so I watched the movie and thought he was amazing.  I was under the impression that the general consensus was that people weren't that impressed by his performance, with many stating that they always give Oscars to the big physical transformations versus the best performance.  Again, just my $0.02.
    I've heard there was some backlash/grumbling among gay and trans people that the actors weren't gay or trans... but that might've been for Jared Leto's role. 

    Before I saw the Oscars, I actually thought Dallas Buyer's Club was a movie about real estate tycoons in Texas, an opinion formed from what I saw with the crappy reception I get here under my rock.  Your UO just made me stop and wonder about the trustworthiness of my memory is all.
  • ehowa499 said:

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    UO: I hate what Facebook has turned into. I feel that people post WAY too much about their personal lives and it drives me nuts. An example I saw last night on my news feed from a "friend of a friend" (no clue who this individual is): "Aaah I had a vasectomy and I just found out it didn't work. Now I have to go through it AGAIN!" And later in the comments when people were asking him if his wife was pregnant "no, I just tested my sperm and they are still good". Is this kind of information really necessary? I do have to admit that I am a hypocrite though because it doesn't stop me from reading it.

    Same here. I find most posts are either bragging, complaining about stuff like the weather or jobs or political. I only stay on for networking because I run a business and to see my friend's pictures.

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  • pandadair said:


    IBackBevo said:

    Let's not define the Hobby Lobby anti-birth control debate as a Christian versus non-Christian debate.  I am a Christian and I have no problem with birth control or the morning after pill, etc.

    And I completely agree with @Ale515's argument that an employer doesn't get to decide how an employee uses his or her paycheck so they also should not get to decide how the employee uses their health insurance.  

    I am sure there are some absurd employers out there who believe that employees of a certain age, race, social status, etc. shouldn't have kids.  Does that mean that numb nut employer should be able to dictate that the employee doesn't get maternity coverage? 

    Or maybe the employer is part of the anti-vax movement.  Should the employer be able to say their insurance doesn't cover routine vaccinations?


    I was just stating that it has been documented that they are "ok" with birth control pills and whatnot.... If you want my honest opinion about the whole thing, I really think this is a way to rehash the argument of what constitutes an abortion. I personally believe that birth control should be free and easier to access! I also think that this whole argument put Hobby Lobby on the "map". Another way to get your name out there. I also believe that there are inconsistent laws and regulations...which is gonna happen. That's where my breast pump comment came from. If every insurance is supposed to supply breast pumps, then do it... No grandfather policies. Same with birth control, if it's a requirement, then it has to be with every single insurance, every company. There are simply too many ways to get out of something, and those are just two examples. If every kid is supposed to have certain vaccines, then why are there so many different ways to get out of it. I'm just saying, laws just seem to be "suggestions" when there are so many loopholes that make it easier for people to get out of them. I understand hobby lobby is a religious company, but if religion can't be in public schools, why is it allowed in public businesses. This argument can go on and on...good thing I'm not crafty! :)

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  • @Jennyinheaven  Are you in heaven because you don't have any children yet and, as such, don't know about the extremely stressful, tiring job coming your way? Is it because you sleep well at night judging other people about whom you know so little (sorry honey, facebook is not reality.)

    I think it sounds like this is the case. Maybe we should start a clicky-poll on how many people think you will change your username to Jennyinhell before the first year is over because you will become something you "just don't understand."

    @Tattoos One person's trashy is another one's.....wait, that isn't the saying :)

    @Hobby Lobby  I feel like ALL of my clients talk about this. I don't really see why the government passing a law that someone (some major corporation if you will) finds offensive is news. This happens all the time.....every. single. piece of legislation passed is subject to one group or another getting pissed.....no one else gets their way about it, so why should Hobby Lobby.

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  • Re: Dallas buyer's club.

    It's my favourite movie of this year and I agree that both actors deserved their oscars. However, IMO Jared Leto totally stole that movie. He was amazing. Without spoiling it for those who haven't seen it, I got genuinely emotional towards the end. I've not been that invested in a character in a long time.

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  • Tkhixen said:
    IBackBevo said:

    Let's not define the Hobby Lobby anti-birth control debate as a Christian versus non-Christian debate.  I am a Christian and I have no problem with birth control or the morning after pill, etc.

    And I completely agree with @Ale515's argument that an employer doesn't get to decide how an employee uses his or her paycheck so they also should not get to decide how the employee uses their health insurance.  

    I am sure there are some absurd employers out there who believe that employees of a certain age, race, social status, etc. shouldn't have kids.  Does that mean that numb nut employer should be able to dictate that the employee doesn't get maternity coverage? 

    Or maybe the employer is part of the anti-vax movement.  Should the employer be able to say their insurance doesn't cover routine vaccinations?

    I was just stating that it has been documented that they are "ok" with birth control pills and whatnot.... If you want my honest opinion about the whole thing, I really think this is a way to rehash the argument of what constitutes an abortion. I personally believe that birth control should be free and easier to access! I also think that this whole argument put Hobby Lobby on the "map". Another way to get your name out there. I also believe that there are inconsistent laws and regulations...which is gonna happen. That's where my breast pump comment came from. If every insurance is supposed to supply breast pumps, then do it... No grandfather policies. Same with birth control, if it's a requirement, then it has to be with every single insurance, every company. There are simply too many ways to get out of something, and those are just two examples. If every kid is supposed to have certain vaccines, then why are there so many different ways to get out of it. I'm just saying, laws just seem to be "suggestions" when there are so many loopholes that make it easier for people to get out of them. I understand hobby lobby is a religious company, but if religion can't be in public schools, why is it allowed in public businesses. This argument can go on and on...good thing I'm not crafty! :)
    One teeny tiny correction:  public vs private.  As far as I know, Hobby Lobby is a private company.  Schools are often (but not always) public, and companies are often (but not always) private. 

    Some people think a private company should be able to have whatever policies they want, including total jackass policies, and then let the public either support or shun the company instead of making laws.  I'm on the fence about that, but it is interesting to try and think out the consequences and repercussions of such a system.
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  • Jane C said:
    RE:  John Mayer

    I think he is a fake d-bag and hate his music.  Especially, can't stand "You're Body is a Wonderland" and the one about daughters- ugh.  I was really not surprised that he and Katy Perry broke up.  I was more like finally she came to her senses. 

    Seriously, why in the world does he get so many famous, beautiful girlfriends.  Doesn't his track record and the fact that he isn't that great make them realize not to date him.
    Also the same goes with Wilmer Valderrama.  I don't see the appeal.  Do they glamour the girls they want to date?
    I don't even know who that is, and without googling I'm going to say famous chicks can't resist the name Valderrama.  (In my imagination, Wilmer Valderrama sounds like a reasonable name for the 'beetus man, so if I'm right, it's either the name or the epic mustache they can't resist.)

  • Jane C said:

    RE:  John Mayer

    I think he is a fake d-bag and hate his music.  Especially, can't stand "You're Body is a Wonderland" and the one about daughters- ugh.  I was really not surprised that he and Katy Perry broke up.  I was more like finally she came to her senses. 

    Seriously, why in the world does he get so many famous, beautiful girlfriends.  Doesn't his track record and the fact that he isn't that great make them realize not to date him.
    Also the same goes with Wilmer Valderrama.  I don't see the appeal.  Do they glamour the girls they want to date?

    I don't even know who that is, and without googling I'm going to say famous chicks can't resist the name Valderrama.  (In my imagination, Wilmer Valderrama sounds like a reasonable name for the 'beetus man, so if I'm right, it's either the name or the epic mustache they can't resist.)


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  • ljbreck said:
    Kaylee524 That is a damn good ratio! Homeless shelters, food banks, children's homes, make-a-wish, toys for tots and  things like that where there are lots of tangibles involved are amazing with what they can pull off on a shoe-string.

    Honestly I can understand up to 50% going to operating costs that's a realistic amount for staffing, promotion, buildings/storage etc. A "charity" bringing in millions but only spending 2% on the actual program is insane, there are companies that are more philanthropic than that!
    I, too work for a non-profit. I think it's unfortunate that so many people have the opinion that all charities are a sham. I think part of that is our (the non-profit's) fault for not promoting our work better. My organization is a worldwide one, and almost everyone I talk to says, "Oh, I know that name, but I don't know what you guys actually do". If we could get better about promoting the work being done in our local communities, I think people would actually be quite impressed. But, of course, promotion takes dollars, and that is always an issue :)

    Also, at my particular place of work, we run our own internal programs in addition to funding many other programs at other non-profits. When deciding who to fund, we have a requirement that they must have less than 25% of their budget be spent on management fees. If a company is only spending 2% on actual programming, that is pretty bad!

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  • IBackBevoIBackBevo member
    edited March 2014

    I'm with @ThereBeDragons.  My time is very valuable, too...  BUT I have done this enough to know there are just things that can't be controlled for.  If I have a doctor's appointment--especially an OB appointment--I pretty well plan on blocking out half a day.  I play on my phone and relax or take work with me and get something accomplished.  

    The only thing that really gets me irritated is when I ask, "How long will it be?" and the staff tells me a time, I make decisions off of that and it is ridiculously underestimated. I had this happen with a pedi appointment a couple of weeks ago. They told me when I checked in that the doctor was running 15 minutes behind.  This was important because the appointment was a non-urgent appointment for DS (just a follow-up to have his ears checked to see if his infection had cleared) and he was in a horrible mood and I knew he would not tolerate waiting for hours.  Literally, 2 hours and 5 tantrums later, I still had not been seen.  But that was a little different situation.  Waiting in the OB's office is different, though, than waiting with a screaming toddler.

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  • Rocknroll64Rocknroll64 member
    edited March 2014
    Re: the timeliness of doctors issue. It nerves me to no end that people complain about this. I get that your time is valuable and all, but say you were in with the doctor in the midst of your appointment and he suddenly stopped you mid-question because he had to keep his schedule and abruptly moved on to the next patient. There is no doubt in my mind that you'd be here bitching about how he was so abrupt and left w/o answering your questions, etc. The business of babies is so unpredictable. If my doctor is running late or at a delivery during my scheduled appt, the nurses will call and see if I still want to come in or reschedule. I just can't understand why people get irritated about this.
    K usually when my OB has to run to the hospital to deliver a baby or has some sort of emergency she has to cancel a lot of appointments and I get a call for that and I honestly truly appreciate that call.  It's when she knows she's running behind and doesn't give me a heads up.  I mean if I have an emergency at work and I have a meeting scheduled, I call the client and let them know I'll be late or I cancel/reschedule.  Sometimes I have numerous meetings in one day and I have to call a bunch of different clients, it takes me no time at all and clients appreciate it because I value their time.  I don't understand why it's so hard to call me and just say, "I know your appointment is for 1:15pm but can you possibly come in at 2pm instead as we're running behind."  Two second message/phone call. 

    Every appointment I'm waiting 30mins plus. I actually never know how long I'll be waiting but I know it's at least 30mins. Every.Single. Appointment.  No phone call unless she had an emergency at the hospital then I get a call cancelling.  

    It's frustrating.  It's fine that you've accepted that doctors are never on time and are okay with it.  I find it frustrating. I'm only human.

    ETA:  I have definitely been rushed out of an appointment by a doctor....I have no problem with it.. If there's nothing pressing/important to discuss then get me out of there.

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  • @Rocknroll64‌, but that's precisely my point, doctors aren't going to know that Jill has a million questions or needs something explained, or when they move on to the next room that Janet will have no questions. Why call and say can you come in 20 minutes later if they make up that time by Janet not having any questions.

    I get why you'd want a call in any other circumstance or profession, I just don't think this is one where you should expect it.

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  • @Rocknroll64‌, but that's precisely my point, doctors aren't going to know that Jill has a million questions or needs something explained, or when they move on to the next room that Janet will have no questions. Why call and say can you come in 20 minutes later if they make up that time by Janet not having any questions. I get why you'd want a call in any other circumstance or profession, I just don't think this is one where you should expect it.
    I just think that if you're running behind every day and making your patients wait for their scheduled appointments by more than 30 minutes everyday something needs to change. I mean it's gotta be frustrating for the doctor too right? Being rushed and late for every appointment? That would suck.
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  • Late doctors drive DH nuts. I just see it as some quiet zen time. I mean, I could get worked up over having my day thrown off by an appointment running two hours late (happened before) or I could watch some terrible daytime television and go with the flow. But I also block off entire afternoons/mornings for doctors visits because I've done this dance enough to know that I'm the only one who's schedule I can control.


    It bothers me sometimes....but only when I have my DD and she's gone nuts. But if I'm alone I've started to bring a book.....It's the only time I can think during the day, may as well use it. I also use it as work time........
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