I find it freaking weird that people add themselves to the due date list, but never participate. Why bother?
Because somehow a lot of people on TB are under the distinct impression that it is their online journal rather than a public forum. They only post when things are about them: due date, ultrasound, guess the gender, and my personal favorite "WHY IS EVERYONE SO MEAN I"M LEAVING!" when people don't piss themselves with excitement over their mundane bullshit.
Oh I forgot the leaving the kids thing... My BIL did not come to our wedding (his own brother) because he refused to leave DS for few days (nephew was about 10 months). I still have a hard time with that bc DH was very hurt. There is life and relationships outside of our kids. Marriages need alone time. I can totally see us calling grandma or auntie or my bff for monthly date nights and a weekend away here and there. I want my kid to be easygoing and comfortable with others, even plan on leaving her at a few months in the church nursery. I do not want that kid who screams like the dickens any moment when he/she cant see mommy/daddy (like nephew did). It seems to instill insecurity and fear of being apart. To each their own I suppose but we were very hurt at BIL's choice.
See I guess I said it wrong. A few nights here and there that's fine for a night out or overnight getaway. But for weeks at a time to go party in cancun or NYC with your friends when the baby isn't even a year old? Eh that's not for me.
The church nursery thing is silly. Of course I left my child a few months old at a church nursery or something. I'm not that mom who can't be away from her child. I'm the mom who prefers to be around her child and would choose not to leave him for long periods of time constantly like some women I see. Trust me, there are days I'm excited he is going to school but everyday things, a night out or away every so often is not what I'm talking about.
Those who can go on weekly, monthly date nights that's fantastic. We don't have that available too us too often especially the first year and a half when we were stationed far from family. That's healthy totally! I'm really talking more about those people who rather leave their child behind to go on a vacation every chance they get like some I have seen lately.
I think it's weird when parents want to take vacations away from their kids at such young ages. I feel like this is a total uo. I'm a freak and super attached to Ds. He has never left us over night or more then 4 hrs for school or a very rare date night. I have a friend who is on like her third kid free vacation since her son was born 3 years ago. Anther girl I went to hs is in cancun right now, her daughter isn't even one. I want to be with my child. I want to plan vacations with him. Not leave him behind. I know when he is much older I wouldn't mind doingg a weekend getaway a few hrs away but that's a long long way off. I'm freaking out about when I go into labor I couldn't imagine a week or two in a different country or something. Maybe I'm weird.
Meh, we're off for three days without our 20 month old son this weekend, and we've done a few overnights. Doesn't mean we're not "attached" to him or that we "want to leave him behind." I actually think it's healthy to have some space for my h and I to be alone as a couple, and my son loves hanging with his grandparents (and I'm glad he's comfortable with and attached to people other than us) so it's a win-win. To each their own though!
Oh yea I'm not saying you are not attached to your child at all, I just know I couldn't do it. My son is totally fine with being left with certain people so that's not the issue. It's my problem and dh. We just choose not to. Idk maybe it's that we are military and dh is gone way too often to start. Who knows. I don't ever look down upon those going on vacation I just don't get it because I could never do it. Now I would look down upon you if you were away all the time. You can't say you don't judge others when you clearly did in your original post. DH and I started having date nights when DS was just a few months old and we went to Miami for 6 days in November. We have DS stay at MIL's every couple of months for a night so we can get out and enjoy being a married couple. It's fine if you don't want to go out, but you shouldn't make others feel bad for wanting to spend some alone time with their SO.
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I'll admit I hate people who get to take trips without their children and just their spouse... It's because I'm jealous! I absolutely love and adore my child and want to be around her a lot, but having some time alone to reconnect with my husband is very important. It's important in every relationship. Just because someone goes on a week long vacation without their children doesn't mean they don't spend every waking moment without them the rest of the time. I really wish my parents or my ILs lived closer so we could do some quick overnight trips for just the two of us!
Also let me add that not going to someone's wedding, especially someone your close with , because you don't want to leave your child is dumb and I totally agree.
AND maybe it was judging in my first post but I didn't mean too. I was just pointing out examples of two people I know this past week who are leaving their child for the 3 rd time in 2 year (not with their husbands but friends) I don't think they are bad people or bad parents, I just could not do that myself. I am by no mean trying to make anyone feel bad for spending time with their husband alone. That was not my intention. This was all simply an opinion I have that I KNOW is unpopular. Hence the Reason I posted it here.
@steelersgirl83 and that's the 5% that I am talking about. You have absolutely no control over that. Like I said though, it's the blatant disregard for issues occurring that I can't stand. I've had fuel pump failures while flying, but unlike a car, there's a backup thankfully. I know that those can just kick it without warning. Like I was saying though, it's the people that don't do preventive maintenance on vehicles that are putting themselves and others behind them in harm's way. I know the stressful feeling that happens from that.
Again, you didn't say 95%...you said "anyone, and I mean anyone". Also, what are you a fucking statistician? How can you see into the car diagnostics and determine what cars are broken down for what reason?
EXACTLY!
Where are you getting these numbers? Are you pulling over and asking, "Hey, what happened here? Did you forget to change your oil? Or was this an Act of God, beyond your control, like a pot hole on your new tires?" Do you keep a notebook in your car for tallying up who has a legitimate emergency and who is just a useless dipshit? Nope. You're looking out your window, judging someone based on 2 seconds of observation while you're pissed because you're late for work. Get over yourself.
Also, In high school and college I drove my Geo Metro for 5 years without ONCE changing the oil. Sure as shit wasn't the oil that caused my hood to fly up and slam into my windshield when I hit 65 mph on the freeway- which was the only time I ever had an issue with that car on the freeway.
I think it's weird when parents want to take vacations away from their kids at such young ages. Maybe I'm weird.
I thought it was bizarre when I found out how often my DH's parents vacation(ed) sans kids! But that's because my experience was that my grandparents were all either dead or extremely elderly when I was young, so my parents took us absolutely everywhere, in part, out of necessity. My in-laws' family structure allowed them to have great options for their kids to play with cousins and stay overnight at family members' homes, and mine just didn't. My parents say they preferred to have us with them anyway, but I can't imagine not needing/wanting a break at some point.
Will I be ready for an overnight away before my first LO is 2? I can't say for sure...but I am open to getting everyone's needs met.
I think it's weird when parents want to take vacations away from their kids at such young ages. I feel like this is a total uo. I'm a freak and super attached to Ds. He has never left us over night or more then 4 hrs for school or a very rare date night. I have a friend who is on like her third kid free vacation since her son was born 3 years ago. Anther girl I went to hs is in cancun right now, her daughter isn't even one. I want to be with my child. I want to plan vacations with him. Not leave him behind. I know when he is much older I wouldn't mind doingg a weekend getaway a few hrs away but that's a long long way off. I'm freaking out about when I go into labor I couldn't imagine a week or two in a different country or something. Maybe I'm weird.
DH and I are already planning a weekend camping trip with friends/family for Memorial Day 2015. We can't this year 'cause DH hasn't accrued vacation/personal time, and frankly I like having some beers when we go camping. LO will only be 9 months (MIL already agreed to babysit), I'm hoping I'll be comfortable enough by that point to leave them for a whole weekend! Even though it's over a year away, I'm excited
Where are you getting these numbers? Are you pulling over and asking, "Hey, what happened here? Did you forget to change your oil? Or was this an Act of God, beyond your control, like a pot hole on your new tires?" Do you keep a notebook in your car for tallying up who has a legitimate emergency and who is just a useless dipshit? Nope. You're looking out your window, judging someone based on 2 seconds of observation while you're pissed because you're late for work. Get over yourself.
Also, In high school and college I drove my Geo Metro for 5 years without ONCE changing the oil. Sure as shit wasn't the oil that caused my hood to fly up and slam into my windshield when I hit 65 mph on the freeway- which was the only time I ever had an issue with that car on the freeway.
THIS!!! It's all I kept thinking about... How do you possibly know what caused a person to break down?? Also, I agree with PP, at least it's not you, have some compassion!! I think some of you are just asking for some CARma!
All this broken down cars and traffic talk and all I can think is I am so thankful I don't live anywhere near a big city! If my car breaks down, I'll pull it over on the shoulder and leave it there until someone can do me a favor and get it home. City life can suck it, is that an UO?! Ha!
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My UO- I hate outdoor cats. If I had my dogs wandering around other peoples yards, people would be livid. Also if you're caring for 'strays' or outdoor cats and you don't send them off to the vet at one point, to get them fixed. You're not helping the stray problem, you're exacerbating it.
I may be biased because of the strays/outdoor cats my neighbor had when I was growing up. The cats were constantly coming in our fenced in back yard and pooping and peeing where we played. One was a mean, big, old cat and would corner one of my parents poor boston terriers and 'play' with him. Another came in the backyard and scratched my baby brother who was just minding his own business playing with his trucks in the sandbox. And THEY had the nerve to get upset at us when we started spraying them with the hose when we saw them in our yard.
I agree. My neighbor has two that like to use our front planter (right next to our front door) as a litter box. I have two indoor cats so I'm a cat lover, but it's not fun to come home to a dead, dismembered and bloody squirrel carcass strewn across your front lawn. I saw one of them chasing a baby bunny one day so I kind of got in the middle to stop it. An hour later, the cat walked by me with the dead baby bunny in it's mouth. I know it's the circle of life but, BABY BUNNY NOOOOOO!!!
Yep!! We are all different! Some may be comfortable with leaving ther children others maybe not. Maybe it's just something that stuck with me since moving? Being military we are away from family and there wasn't anyone I would trust to watch my son for more then a few hours let alone over night. A lot of spouses are younger then me! Then we moved in August by dh family who have not been around kids in forever. I'm so use to having Ds with me always that I'm more then happy with it. My mother in law watches Ds when dh and I go out to eat and such but i rather not leave him alone over night. I like being with him. I'm more excited for a disney vacation with him then a week in Mexico with just Ds. That does not mean I wouldn't enjoy a vacation with dh I'm sure I would love it and it would be a blast. Dh doesn't get a lot of time off so our vacation I rather have Ds come along!
I think a Life Skills class should be mandatory in HS. This class should include cooking, cleaning/laundry, fixing crap around the house, light auto repair, balancing a checkbook/managing a budget and DRIVING. Students are required to take so many years of a foreign language that they may never use (let's face it, a lot of them don't!), but we let them out into the world without basic skills that they would definitely use for the rest of their lives.
This is why I love my job. (sarcasm) As a high school Spanish teacher I get really frustrated that people don't see the value in learning a foreign language because you "don't use it after high school". You probaby won't use calculus, chemistry, physics, trig, or many other subjects either. HOWEVER, some people might and the process of learning anything makes that part of your brain better. I have never known a person to look back on their life and think, "Hmm, I really wish I didn't know that second language. It was such a waste of time."
I'm really not saying that nobody uses a foreign language after high school or that learning it has no value, it was just an example of something that not EVERYONE uses after high school as opposed to cooking or balancing a checkbook. I could easily have said calculus/chemistry/etc, foreign language was just the first to pop into my head. And in retrospect it was a bad example because I didn't think about how certain languages could be especially beneficial/useful/necessary in certain areas.
I'd like to say too that it pisses me the f**k off that in spite of all the evidence showing that learning a second language should begin at a much earlier age, it isn't required and usually doesn't start until high school (in Ohio... I don't actually know the requirements for other states).
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@yurizaba I kinda have to agree with you on this one. Coworkers of my parents had a son KIA and these nutwhacks were at his funeral. It was heartbreaking quite honestly. I know the US is freedom of speech and religion, but seriously, this was just wrong. Not that the protests will stop, but still, yup, not upset that he is no longer alive.
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I heard an interview on NPR with a young woman whose family were members. She got kicked out for questioning something simple, I can't remember what, and her family disowned her as a result. It was very interesting to hear her POV as someone removed from the group. I think she wrote a book about it called Banished.
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I find it freaking weird that people add themselves to the due date list, but never participate. Why bother?
Because somehow a lot of people on TB are under the distinct impression that it is their online journal rather than a public forum. They only post when things are about them: due date, ultrasound, guess the gender, and my personal favorite "WHY IS EVERYONE SO MEAN I"M LEAVING!" when people don't piss themselves with excitement over their mundane bullshit.
My favorite with my last bmb was around August/September (it was a Sept board) when ladies who had NEVER posted started posting the birth stories. I love a squishy baby, but who are you?
Thanks!
Also, shit happens on the highway, and I always send good thoughts and a prayer to anyone involved in an accident I see. So sorry if your day is interrupted, I'd rather worry if someone's Mom or kid isn't going home and hope everyone is ok.
ALSO I am glad I studied Spanish for 8 years even though I don't speak it every day.
And I am already looking forward to having one on one time with DH, I think it will make me personally a better parent. I function better when I feel grounded in my relationship.
And for the record, I am a glitter rainbow butterfly. Happy Spring, bitches
Yep... To each their own. DH and I look forward to flying to Sweden, spend a few days with the in-laws, leaving LO with grandma there and hopping over to Italy, Spain or Greece for a week. We are not partiers. I don't even drink but I already know DH and I will need that is time. I also know some of my greatest memories as a child were spending a few days with grandparents and I fully trust them.
I just don't think taking 3 vacations alone is that bad. If anything take the LO's with you when they are older and can remember.
Maybe it bugs me because this girl really doesn't like her son it seems. She always makes post that make him sound like a burden. And that her vacations have nothing to do with her husband or her son (especially a husband who is gone on deployments constantly to begin with).
I actually question people who never leave their kids. I think you are hurting your marriage.
Totally agree. We left LO with my parents when he was 7 months old and went to Vegas / hiking in the grand canyon for about 6 days. It was awesome. We came back refreshed, giddy in love, feeling healthy, rested, rejuvenated, and missing our little guy like crazy... and have already planned to do the same (but probably to Mexico) when this baby is about 9 months old. 3 vacations in two years is not really that much -- 3 weeks out of 102 weeks? Big deal.
We got a sitter and had a date night when he was a month old, and my parents have done two overnights for us so we could go out and have fun... it is a great break and time to reconnect and then we're always more than ready to go pick him up.
I love my son to bits but I'm human and sometimes I need a break from being on mom duty -- girls nights are great and all, but even better if I can do that WITH my husband.
*Eye roll* yes let's just judge all parents. The ones who never leave thier kids and the ones who do.
JFC.
Nope. Not all parents. Just the ones who don't have a healthy balance.
According to you. I think our balance is just fine and Ella has spent exactly one night away from me. To think my marriage isn't as healthy as yours because we opt to not spend the night away is ridiculous.
No one said anything about spending the night away. But I agree, spending TIME away is essential to a happy marriage if only for sanity's sake. That doesn't just apply to kids, but anything time consuming and stressful. DH and I had to set a time limit on talking about work because it would be all I would do when I came home because it was so miserable for me. Or wedding planning. I LOVE planning, but there came a time we had to have time away from that just to remember who we are. Balance IS essential. How you balance is up to you, but 100% away or 100% not away isn't balance. For some, balance could be one date night a week, others a month, others a year. We're all fucking loonies, we need time to get back our senses.
I miss whiskey and wine.
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I can assure you that just because I have never left my child over night, does not mean I am hurting my marriage!!!!! That's horrible to say. I'm not saying to you or anyone else that because you leave your child, your hurting your relationship with them. So silly
And again, we go on date nights. You act like I refuse to leave my child ever. No I just choose not to leave him over night. My marriage is perfectly healthy. We laugh and have fun and it's not all about or son. There is Plenty of time spent with just us. We are more then happy.
Well there are several topics to comment on here..
I think every couple should take atleast one vacation a year for just the couple- no family included. Does this mean an extravagant get away? No, it could merely mean a weekend trip. Let's face it when baby grows up it's back to just being a couple and if you spent the entire 18+ years revolving around baby, then where does that leave your relationship with your spouse? I've seen too many marriages that loose sight of it. Granted I also think a family should take a family vacation or little weekend once a year as well- atleast once baby is old enough to actually participate. I know it may not always be possible financially but that's why I say a weekend trip- something inexpensive but memorable. I've also seen families that neglect creating those family memories because they feel entitled to only vacation as a means of getting away from their kids.
Next topic: I have a 2010 Toyota still under warranty and maintained monthly. In December while driving over the Coronado bridge(Google it if you're not familiar) the hood of my car without warning became unlatched and flew up blocking my entire view of my windshield. Might I add less than a week prior I attended a funeral for my uncle who died whole serving in Korea after his vehicle somehow went over a bridge. All I could think is- my God now I'm going to die the same way. I was able to keep calm and slow my car down while putting on the hazards and had no side lane to pull over to only the side of the bridge I was on. I got as close to the barricade as I could with my side mirrors and the. Tried to get out of the cat to somehow securely rig the hood so I could get over the bridge and to a mechanic. As I tried opening my door, people began flying by cursing and honking their horns.. No one bothered to help me or pull over to stop traffic so I could get out of my car. After at least 8 minutes I finally managed to do so. It was a horrible experience and I was so shaken up and rattled that no one even bothered to slow down or help when I was obviously distressed and trapped in a bad situation. That traffic was definitely not my fault but all the other dicks who were too bothered to help out someone in need.
Oh, and I have a date night once a month and we are not allowed to talk about DS. I think it is important for our marriage and for DS. Even at a young age, he needs to learn that he is "part" of our family and our family doesn't revolve around him. Of course family time is important and we do things as a family all the time. But, he also needs to see that Mommy and Daddy have their own relationship and that we are a team.
We left him with MIL for two nights when he was 11 months old to celebrate our anniversary. It was great for him to be with his Nonnie and great for us to reconnect.
I actually question people who never leave their kids. I think you are hurting your marriage. However, I also question parents who leave their kids every weekend. I think it is all about balance.
I can assure you that just because I have never left my child over night, does not mean I am hurting my marriage!!!!! That's horrible to say. I'm not saying to you or anyone else that because you leave your child, your hurting your relationship with them. So silly
And again, we go on date nights. You act like I refuse to leave my child ever. No I just choose not to leave him over night. My marriage is perfectly healthy. We laugh and have fun and it's not all about or son. There is Plenty of time spent with just us. We are more then happy.
Again. No one is saying anything about OVERNIGHT even...just TIME away. TIME away is important.
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I actually question people who never leave their kids. I think you are hurting your marriage.
Totally agree. We left LO with my parents when he was 7 months old and went to Vegas / hiking in the grand canyon for about 6 days. It was awesome. We came back refreshed, giddy in love, feeling healthy, rested, rejuvenated, and missing our little guy like crazy... and have already planned to do the same (but probably to Mexico) when this baby is about 9 months old. 3 vacations in two years is not really that much -- 3 weeks out of 102 weeks? Big deal.
We got a sitter and had a date night when he was a month old, and my parents have done two overnights for us so we could go out and have fun... it is a great break and time to reconnect and then we're always more than ready to go pick him up.
I love my son to bits but I'm human and sometimes I need a break from being on mom duty -- girls nights are great and all, but even better if I can do that WITH my husband.
To rephrase - I don't QUESTION this -- because I don't really care what other people do regarding this topic. But I think it is healthy to go away and be a couple sometimes. I also think it is healthy to go away and be an individual -- have alone time, time with friends, etc. I know that our marriage is stronger because we prioritize all of these things - lower priority than family time and LO's health and well being, of course, but they're all on the list!
I hate chocolate. Unless it is in a not entirely chocolate form. (think Peanut Butter Cups, Snickers, S'mores etc) You give me a solid piece of chocolate, I throw it back at you.
Oh, and I have a date night once a month and we are not allowed to talk about DS. I think it is important for our marriage and for DS. Even at a young age, he needs to learn that he is "part" of our family and our family doesn't revolve around him. Of course family time is important and we do things as a family all the time. But, he also needs to see that Mommy and Daddy have their own relationship and that we are a team.
We left him with MIL for two nights when he was 11 months old to celebrate our anniversary. It was great for him to be with his Nonnie and great for us to reconnect.
I actually question people who never leave their kids. I think you are hurting your marriage. However, I also question parents who leave their kids every weekend. I think it is all about balance.
I read a quote once, and while it is only acceptable and applicable in healthy marriages, I think it is so important to remember "You can only be as good a mother, as you are a wife." I completely agree with you mama!
Although, I'm jealous of your once a month date night. We're in short supply of sitters for our three kids.
I read a quote once, and while it is only acceptable and applicable in healthy marriages, I think it is so important to remember "You can only be as good a mother, as you are a wife." I completely agree with you mama!
Although, I'm jealous of your once a month date night. We're in short supply of sitters for our three kids.
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I call bull on this. No single parents or unmarried parents can be good parents?
Next topic:
I have a 2010 Toyota still under warranty and maintained monthly. In December while driving over the Coronado bridge(Google it if you're not familiar) the hood of my car without warning became unlatched and flew up blocking my entire view of my windshield. Might I add less than a week prior I attended a funeral for my uncle who died whole serving in Korea after his vehicle somehow went over a bridge. All I could think is- my God now I'm going to die the same way. I was able to keep calm and slow my car down while putting on the hazards and had no side lane to pull over to only the side of the bridge I was on. I got as close to the barricade as I could with my side mirrors and the. Tried to get out of the cat to somehow securely rig the hood so I could get over the bridge and to a mechanic. As I tried opening my door, people began flying by cursing and honking their horns.. No one bothered to help me or pull over to stop traffic so I could get out of my car. After at least 8 minutes I finally managed to do so. It was a horrible experience and I was so shaken up and rattled that no one even bothered to slow down or help when I was obviously distressed and trapped in a bad situation.
That traffic was definitely not my fault but all the other dicks who were too bothered to help out someone in need.
Is that not he most terrifying thing in the world?!?!? First off, its effing loud when your hood hits your windshield-- mine ended up with a huge crack all along the top. Then you can't see ANYTHING! I don't know that I would have been able to react so calmly if this had happened to me on a bridge-- I was lucky that I was in a rural area with wide shoulders and not much traffic.
Next topic:
I have a 2010 Toyota still under warranty and maintained monthly. In December while driving over the Coronado bridge(Google it if you're not familiar) the hood of my car without warning became unlatched and flew up blocking my entire view of my windshield. Might I add less than a week prior I attended a funeral for my uncle who died whole serving in Korea after his vehicle somehow went over a bridge. All I could think is- my God now I'm going to die the same way. I was able to keep calm and slow my car down while putting on the hazards and had no side lane to pull over to only the side of the bridge I was on. I got as close to the barricade as I could with my side mirrors and the. Tried to get out of the cat to somehow securely rig the hood so I could get over the bridge and to a mechanic. As I tried opening my door, people began flying by cursing and honking their horns.. No one bothered to help me or pull over to stop traffic so I could get out of my car. After at least 8 minutes I finally managed to do so. It was a horrible experience and I was so shaken up and rattled that no one even bothered to slow down or help when I was obviously distressed and trapped in a bad situation.
That traffic was definitely not my fault but all the other dicks who were too bothered to help out someone in need.
Is that not he most terrifying thing in the world?!?!? First off, its effing loud when your hood hits your windshield-- mine ended up with a huge crack all along the top. Then you can't see ANYTHING! I don't know that I would have been able to react so calmly if this had happened to me on a bridge-- I was lucky that I was in a rural area with wide shoulders and not much traffic.
I can't even imagine how I would react if my hood flew up on me....
I read a quote once, and while it is only acceptable and applicable in healthy marriages, I think it is so important to remember "You can only be as good a mother, as you are a wife." I completely agree with you mama!
Although, I'm jealous of your once a month date night. We're in short supply of sitters for our three kids.
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I call bull on this. No single parents or unmarried parents can be good parents?
I think she specifically said that it only applied to healthy marriages, as in, if you are in a healthy marriage then this applies to you, if not, then it doesn't. She did not say that you can only be a good mother if you are married.
I read a quote once, and while it is only acceptable and applicable in healthy marriages, I think it is so important to remember "You can only be as good a mother, as you are a wife." I completely agree with you mama!
Although, I'm jealous of your once a month date night. We're in short supply of sitters for our three kids.
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I call bull on this. No single parents or unmarried parents can be good parents?
I think she specifically said that it only applied to healthy marriages, as in, if you are in a healthy marriage then this applies to you, if not, then it doesn't. She did not say that you can only be a good mother if you are married.
Thanks Trebek. Quite possibly a reading comp fail on my part, but I read it as full of implications. I took the caveat to mean that people in bad marriages didn't have to live up to the quote, and to me the caveat should have been more clear.
I read a quote once, and while it is only acceptable and applicable in healthy marriages, I think it is so important to remember "You can only be as good a mother, as you are a wife." I completely agree with you mama!
Although, I'm jealous of your once a month date night. We're in short supply of sitters for our three kids.
Edit: get me out of this quote box...
I call bull on this. No single parents or unmarried parents can be good parents?
I think she specifically said that it only applied to healthy marriages, as in, if you are in a healthy marriage then this applies to you, if not, then it doesn't. She did not say that you can only be a good mother if you are married.
Thanks Trebek. Quite possibly a reading comp fail on my part, but I read it as full of implications. I took the caveat to mean that people in bad marriages didn't have to live up to the quote, and to me the caveat should have been more clear.
Absolutely not my intent, the quote wouldn't apply if you're not in a marriage and I put my own emphasis on a healthy marriage.
My parents divorced after a tumultuous 2 years of separation when I was 6 and my Mom raised my brother and I alone for over two years until she remarried. I would never imply that a single mother or unmarried couple would be incapable of being good parents.
My caveat isn't that a bad marriage doesn't have to live up to it, but that I'm not condoning the quote to universally apply, say if a wife should stay with an abusive husband to be a "good wife."
I read a quote once, and while it is only acceptable and applicable in healthy marriages, I think it is so important to remember "You can only be as good a mother, as you are a wife." I completely agree with you mama!
Although, I'm jealous of your once a month date night. We're in short supply of sitters for our three kids.
Edit: get me out of this quote box...
I call bull on this. No single parents or unmarried parents can be good parents?
I think she specifically said that it only applied to healthy marriages, as in, if you are in a healthy marriage then this applies to you, if not, then it doesn't. She did not say that you can only be a good mother if you are married.
Thanks Trebek. Quite possibly a reading comp fail on my part, but I read it as full of implications. I took the caveat to mean that people in bad marriages didn't have to live up to the quote, and to me the caveat should have been more clear.
Absolutely not my intent, the quote wouldn't apply if you're not in a marriage and I put my own emphasis on a healthy marriage.
My parents divorced after a tumultuous 2 years of separation when I was 6 and my Mom raised my brother and I alone for over two years until she remarried. I would never imply that a single mother or unmarried couple would be incapable of being good parents.
My caveat isn't that a bad marriage doesn't have to live up to it, but that I'm not condoning the quote to universally apply, say if a wife should stay with an abusive husband to be a "good wife."
Fair enough. I get bristly and defensive about this because though she drives me nuts, my mom was a fantastic single mom.
Ok wow I missed a lot today but I have to comment on this stupid car breaking down crap and the traffic it causes.
First, shit happens. Get over it.
Second, it isn't just the car breaking down that causes a traffic jam. It is the rubber necking jerks (probably judging said broken down car) who slow down traffic. So the next time you ride by that broken down car on your high horse glaring at that poor soul holding you up, remember you are the jerk slowing down traffic.
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Ok, I have one. I really dislike when people add the "by choice" line to their statement like it somehow distinguishes them from/makes them better than those who didn't do said thing by choice.
For example, "I'm a single parent by choice" Does it really matter if it was by choice?? Also, there are many applications of this phrase, this was just the best example I had at the moment.
I hear you, it could imply that people in the same boat (whichever boat it might be) not by choice are inferior. BUT I think sometimes people say it instead of sharing a whole background story.
Re: UO
PREACH!!!
See I guess I said it wrong. A few nights here and there that's fine for a night out or overnight getaway. But for weeks at a time to go party in cancun or NYC with your friends when the baby isn't even a year old? Eh that's not for me.
The church nursery thing is silly. Of course I left my child a few months old at a church nursery or something. I'm not that mom who can't be away from her child. I'm the mom who prefers to be around her child and would choose not to leave him for long periods of time constantly like some women I see. Trust me, there are days I'm excited he is going to school but everyday things, a night out or away every so often is not what I'm talking about.
Those who can go on weekly, monthly date nights that's fantastic. We don't have that available too us too often especially the first year and a half when we were stationed far from family. That's healthy totally! I'm really talking more about those people who rather leave their child behind to go on a vacation every chance they get like some I have seen lately.
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You can't say you don't judge others when you clearly did in your original post. DH and I started having date nights when DS was just a few months old and we went to Miami for 6 days in November. We have DS stay at MIL's every couple of months for a night so we can get out and enjoy being a married couple. It's fine if you don't want to go out, but you shouldn't make others feel bad for wanting to spend some alone time with their SO.
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I'm sorry for the long quote tree, I'm mobile...
I'll admit I hate people who get to take trips without their children and just their spouse... It's because I'm jealous! I absolutely love and adore my child and want to be around her a lot, but having some time alone to reconnect with my husband is very important. It's important in every relationship. Just because someone goes on a week long vacation without their children doesn't mean they don't spend every waking moment without them the rest of the time. I really wish my parents or my ILs lived closer so we could do some quick overnight trips for just the two of us!
I fucking love you
AND maybe it was judging in my first post but I didn't mean too. I was just pointing out examples of two people I know this past week who are leaving their child for the 3 rd time in 2 year (not with their husbands but friends) I don't think they are bad people or bad parents, I just could not do that myself. I am by no mean trying to make anyone feel bad for spending time with their husband alone. That was not my intention. This was all simply an opinion I have that I KNOW is unpopular. Hence the Reason I posted it here.
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Will I be ready for an overnight away before my first LO is 2? I can't say for sure...but I am open to getting everyone's needs met.
EXACTLY!
THIS!!! It's all I kept thinking about... How do you possibly know what caused a person to break down?? Also, I agree with PP, at least it's not you, have some compassion!! I think some of you are just asking for some CARma!
That is what in happy with.
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I heard an interview on NPR with a young woman whose family were members. She got kicked out for questioning something simple, I can't remember what, and her family disowned her as a result. It was very interesting to hear her POV as someone removed from the group. I think she wrote a book about it called Banished.
This made my (long, miserable) day better.
Yep... To each their own. DH and I look forward to flying to Sweden, spend a few days with the in-laws, leaving LO with grandma there and hopping over to Italy, Spain or Greece for a week. We are not partiers. I don't even drink but I already know DH and I will need that is time. I also know some of my greatest memories as a child were spending a few days with grandparents and I fully trust them.
I just don't think taking 3 vacations alone is that bad. If anything take the LO's with you when they are older and can remember.
Maybe it bugs me because this girl really doesn't like her son it seems. She always makes post that make him sound like a burden. And that her vacations have nothing to do with her husband or her son (especially a husband who is gone on deployments constantly to begin with).
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We got a sitter and had a date night when he was a month old, and my parents have done two overnights for us so we could go out and have fun... it is a great break and time to reconnect and then we're always more than ready to go pick him up.
I love my son to bits but I'm human and sometimes I need a break from being on mom duty -- girls nights are great and all, but even better if I can do that WITH my husband.
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And again, we go on date nights. You act like I refuse to leave my child ever. No I just choose not to leave him over night. My marriage is perfectly healthy. We laugh and have fun and it's not all about or son. There is Plenty of time spent with just us. We are more then happy.
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I think every couple should take atleast one vacation a year for just the couple- no family included. Does this mean an extravagant get away? No, it could merely mean a weekend trip. Let's face it when baby grows up it's back to just being a couple and if you spent the entire 18+ years revolving around baby, then where does that leave your relationship with your spouse? I've seen too many marriages that loose sight of it. Granted I also think a family should take a family vacation or little weekend once a year as well- atleast once baby is old enough to actually participate. I know it may not always be possible financially but that's why I say a weekend trip- something inexpensive but memorable. I've also seen families that neglect creating those family memories because they feel entitled to only vacation as a means of getting away from their kids.
Next topic:
I have a 2010 Toyota still under warranty and maintained monthly. In December while driving over the Coronado bridge(Google it if you're not familiar) the hood of my car without warning became unlatched and flew up blocking my entire view of my windshield. Might I add less than a week prior I attended a funeral for my uncle who died whole serving in Korea after his vehicle somehow went over a bridge. All I could think is- my God now I'm going to die the same way. I was able to keep calm and slow my car down while putting on the hazards and had no side lane to pull over to only the side of the bridge I was on. I got as close to the barricade as I could with my side mirrors and the. Tried to get out of the cat to somehow securely rig the hood so I could get over the bridge and to a mechanic. As I tried opening my door, people began flying by cursing and honking their horns.. No one bothered to help me or pull over to stop traffic so I could get out of my car. After at least 8 minutes I finally managed to do so. It was a horrible experience and I was so shaken up and rattled that no one even bothered to slow down or help when I was obviously distressed and trapped in a bad situation.
That traffic was definitely not my fault but all the other dicks who were too bothered to help out someone in need.
Again. No one is saying anything about OVERNIGHT even...just TIME away. TIME away is important.
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no, you rent the hotel room to bang your husband in the elevator, hot tub, storage closet not the bed
Although, I'm jealous of your once a month date night. We're in short supply of sitters for our three kids.
Thanks Trebek. Quite possibly a reading comp fail on my part, but I read it as full of implications. I took the caveat to mean that people in bad marriages didn't have to live up to the quote, and to me the caveat should have been more clear.
My parents divorced after a tumultuous 2 years of separation when I was 6 and my Mom raised my brother and I alone for over two years until she remarried. I would never imply that a single mother or unmarried couple would be incapable of being good parents.
My caveat isn't that a bad marriage doesn't have to live up to it, but that I'm not condoning the quote to universally apply, say if a wife should stay with an abusive husband to be a "good wife."
Fair enough. I get bristly and defensive about this because though she drives me nuts, my mom was a fantastic single mom.
First, shit happens. Get over it.
Second, it isn't just the car breaking down that causes a traffic jam. It is the rubber necking jerks (probably judging said broken down car) who slow down traffic. So the next time you ride by that broken down car on your high horse glaring at that poor soul holding you up, remember you are the jerk slowing down traffic.
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BFP#2 1/20/2014 EDD 9/28/2014, Baby Evie born on 9/23/2014 at 8:50pm. 6 lbs 15 oz!
I hear you, it could imply that people in the same boat (whichever boat it might be) not by choice are inferior. BUT I think sometimes people say it instead of sharing a whole background story.