Secondary IF

New to site, trying for second child

Sfulton50Sfulton50 member
edited March 2014 in Secondary IF
Hello everyone My name is Sheilagh and my hubby and I are trying for our second child, IVF/ICSI. We have run into a major road block. My DH was diagnosed with testicular cancer last year and had to have one removed. He is cancer free so far but was put on meds, Clomid, about 5 months ago to help with sperm production. He was really low before, they only found 20 sperm when we had our daughter and that was with 2 testis. We just had a SA done about month ago and there was 0 sperm, we are devastated. He is still on Clomid but they added Conception XR to see if that helps. Has anyone else been through this? Did the meds work? Really hoping this is not the end for us.

Re: New to site, trying for second child

  • Hi - welcome. @Momarazzi007‌ 's husband has severe MFI and @AprilDrew04‌ 's husband is on clomid, too. They might have some insight to offer.
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    Me: 27 DH: 33
    Married 6 years
    Conceived DS after 4 years of MFI

    TTC # 2 (not trying,not preventing ever)
    May 2013 - August 2013 Timed Intercourse = BFN
    September 2013 Timed Intercourse, Weekly Acupuncture, Herbs=BFN
    October 2013 Timed Intercourse, Weekly Acupuncture, Herbs, and "warming foods" = BFP
    Beta #1 19, Beta #2 18 Progesterone 4.6 Miscarried 11/9/13
    November 2013 - Benched, waiting for first post-loss AF.
    No longer benched per New RE/OB!
    Jan. 15 2014 - BFP. HCG 3900 - Ectopic :( 
    Jan. 16 2014 Left tube removed and D&C
    March 2, 2014 First AF


  • Sorry to hear about that DX, but that is great news that he is now cancer free. I hope the medicine will work for him. Have you considered donor sperm if the meds don't work? 


    Good luck. 


    Spontaneous pregnancy #1
    DD1 July 31, 2011

    Trying for #2 since Oct 11
    732973 Clomid Cycles
    2 IUIs 
    3 Fresh IVFs= 1 Ectopic treated with MTX
    Spontaneous pregnancy #2= Ectopic #2= lost left tube
    Spontaneous pregnancy #3= DD2 January 29, 2016
    Spontaneous pregnancy #4= Ectopic #3
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  • Hi ladies, thanks for the responses. @Mrs Castillo‌ at this point that is not something the DH is willing to look into.
  • Welcome! So sorry about your husband's diagnosis. I don't have anything helpful to add, but wanted to wish you luck.

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    BFP #2 08.04.11 - DD born still @ 37w3d on 03.25.12

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    BFP #4 10.17.13 - CP @ 4w2d on 10.23.13

    BFP #5 04.06.14 - MMC 05.07.14

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  • Sorry to hear about your husbands DX. Welcome. 



      


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    My DH has MFI. His first SA was 0 and it improved since then without meds. I have heard that a lot of factors can affect the results. I'm not going to lie your husband's count is probably really low like mine but on the first test I wouldn't just count it as 0. I've heard to ask for a glass container instead of plastic. Also make sure you do it at a time when he's healthy. I wouldn't count on normal levels but I would definitely recommend a second test. GL!
  • Hi there. I'm new to the board too. I don't have any helpful advice but wanted to say good luck!
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  • Welcome.  I have no advice, but I hope that the meds work!
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    6/2010
     BFP - 10/18/2012, EDD - 6/26/2013, Baby Girl lost at 22 weeks (T21), D&E 2/15/2013
    BFP - 4/23/2014, EDD - 1/2/2015 Twin Boys lost at 12 weeks, M/C 6/25/2014

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  • Thank you all ladies for your advice and nice welcome. I hope you all have luck too
  • AprilDrew04AprilDrew04 member
    edited March 2014
    Sorry I didn't respond sooner, been having trouble with TB letting me post from my tablet.

    Anyway, my DH is on clomid, it is supposed to help with testosterone levels which in turn should boost sperm count. It usually takes about 90 days or 3 months for sperm parameter changes in SA. This is because it is about that long from when sperm is made to when it is used, hope that makes sense.

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    DD conceived after 3 years of ttc.
    MFI - DH had varicocele repair and took Clomid to get DD b. 02/2010

    TTC #2 since 6/2010
    10/2012 DH diagnosed with Epilepsy
    A few failed IUIs summer 2012 and 2013. 
    DH taking clomid and waiting to see if he needs another vericocele repair. 
    Hoping for a 2015 baby or babies. 
    Wishing, hoping, waiting.


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  • Welcome and so sorry to hear about your diagnosis! 
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  • @AprilDrew04‌ he has been on Clomid for 5 months already but am hoping maybe because of the surgery it's just taken his body a little longer to start reproduce sperm. Is the Clomid working for your hubby?
  • AprilDrew04AprilDrew04 member
    edited March 2014
    It helped some the first time, that combined with vericocele repair surgery we got DD. Will know if it is having any impact this time in a week.

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    DD conceived after 3 years of ttc.
    MFI - DH had varicocele repair and took Clomid to get DD b. 02/2010

    TTC #2 since 6/2010
    10/2012 DH diagnosed with Epilepsy
    A few failed IUIs summer 2012 and 2013. 
    DH taking clomid and waiting to see if he needs another vericocele repair. 
    Hoping for a 2015 baby or babies. 
    Wishing, hoping, waiting.


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  • Actually, one of my best friends (a guy) from work went through this. He was diagnosed with cancer many years ago, but is in remission. He & his wife wanted a baby, so they started trying. He was in the same boat, 0 sperm count. I know he went through hellish appointments. I know he took some meds from "coast science" that helped cause magically over time, he did the SA and there were sperm! He & his wife did 4 iui and were going to move to IVF but she got pregnant on the last iui. She's due with a baby boy in August. Keep hope- it can happen!!!
    Me: 38     DH: 36
    Married: July 21, 2013
    TTC#1 (between us): June/July 2013

    DX: MFI (low count and motility)
    Charting/OPK/CBFM July 2013-present
    1st RE Visit: January 2014
    Cycling: 
    March 2014- 75iu follistim + trigger + progesterone + IUI = BFN and OHSS
    (8 million post wash 47% motility, 18mm/17mm/16mm/16mm/14mm follies)
    April/May 2014- Benched due to cysts/enlarged ovaries
    June 2014- 50iu follistim + trigger + progesterone + IUI = BFP!!
    (10 million post wash 60% motility, 20mm/19mm follies)
    Beta 1- 85 Beta 2- 2,752 - EDD 2/27/2015


    Everyone welcome. Strength in numbers!


  • @AprilDrew04‌ Prying it all works out for you this time! @Mommalawyer‌ that is wonderful news!!! That makes me feel like there is some hope, thank you so much. Do you know how long it took, around about, to get him to start producing again?
  • I'll ask him when I see him at work today & update you!!
    Me: 38     DH: 36
    Married: July 21, 2013
    TTC#1 (between us): June/July 2013

    DX: MFI (low count and motility)
    Charting/OPK/CBFM July 2013-present
    1st RE Visit: January 2014
    Cycling: 
    March 2014- 75iu follistim + trigger + progesterone + IUI = BFN and OHSS
    (8 million post wash 47% motility, 18mm/17mm/16mm/16mm/14mm follies)
    April/May 2014- Benched due to cysts/enlarged ovaries
    June 2014- 50iu follistim + trigger + progesterone + IUI = BFP!!
    (10 million post wash 60% motility, 20mm/19mm follies)
    Beta 1- 85 Beta 2- 2,752 - EDD 2/27/2015


    Everyone welcome. Strength in numbers!


  • @Mommalawyer‌ Thanks look forward to hearing from u
  • Welcome!  

    I don't have any direct experience with this to contribute.  But the comment about glass vs. plastic containers did make me think of something.  

    BPA.  It's in everything - the more you can lower your (his) exposure the better.  It's really a synthetic estrogen that is used to harden plastic.  So, while you likely know to not buy a sippy cup with it, most people don't think about all the other places it hides.  It's in your cookware if you have any sort of non-stick/teflon (it leeches out at about the temp required to cook bacon), it's in your food storage containers, in the lining of soup and canned veggie cans, it's even on the printed receipts you get from cc machines.  And it screws with fertility for everyone. 

    So, just had the thought that if you are spending a few months working on meds and upping the count, can't hurt to remove other possible factors as well.  Not an expert, but wanted to throw it out there.  
    Trying for #2 with IVF after damage done in a D&C left me with one functioning (but too scarred) ovary and tube to get pregnant safely without assistance. It's a really, really long story, but that is the gist of it.  We have one daughter (whose c-section birth started this roller coaster) born in 2012 after a miscarriage in 2011. 
    Failed 1st attempt at IVF (Fresh ET day 3, 1 frozen embryo saved) in December 2013.  
    Failed 2nd attempt at IVF (Fresh ET day 5, 2 frozen embryos saved) in February 2014.
  • I am no help. Just wanted to say welcome and I hope the best for you guys. Maybe there is something to be said with the glass container.
    Me: 36, DH: 36
    DH's SA = normal
    1 tube only wonder
    AFC 3-5, AMH 0.30

    BFP #1 3/29/11.  EDD 12/4/11... Missed m/c 5/9/11. Cytotec fail. D&C 5/17/11.
    BFP #2   7/5/11.  EDD 3/14/12... Our rainbow Kellen born 3/14/12 via c/s.
    BFP #3 5/30/13.  EDD 2/8/14...  6wk u/s HB 126. 8wk u/s lost HB. D&C 7/12/13.
    BFP #4 2/18/14.  EDD 10/30/14... Ruptured ectopic with L tube removed & D&C 3/7/14.
    BFP #5 7/27/14.  EDD 4/9/15...  m/c @ 5w4d.

    IVF #1    Oct 2014 - antagonist protocol: 9R, 7M, 5F. 3dt of 3 Grade 2 embies. BFN. 
    IVF #2    Jan 2015 cancelled due to dominant follicle.  Converted to IUI #1. BFFN
    IVF #2.1 March 2015 cancelled due to dominant follicle.

    BFP #6  (SUPRISE!) 3/19/15.  EDD 11/30/15...  CP at 4w2d.
    IUI #2:    Clomid + Follistim = 3 follies. BFN.
    IVF #2.2 May 2015 - horrible response to micro lupron flare protocol: 3R, 3M, 3F. 3dt of 2 Grade 3 embies. BFFN. 

    BFP #7 (beyond surprised again!) 4/26/16. EDD 1/5/17. beautiful betas!!!! and then near-fatal hemorrhagic corpus luteum. turns out baby was ectopic after all; another lap 5/6 (@24dpo).

    the universe can fuck off.


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