September 2014 Moms

UO Thursday**WARNING** Possible triggers mentioned

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Re: UO Thursday**WARNING** Possible triggers mentioned

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  • carmstr4 said:

    My UO: I think sexist , racist and religious jokes can be funny. They poke fun at silly stereotypes to lighten up life. And if you can't laugh at yourself life is going to be miserable

    I don't think rape or domestic violence or intellectually disable jokes are funny. Victims and people unable to defend the stereotype are not targets for jokes




    How I feel about this depends entirely on my mood and the person making the jokes. There is a difference between a sexist joke and really being a sexist person. I'm ok with sexist jokes if the person making them isn't sexist.

    Totally agree
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  • carmstr4 said:

    My UO: I think sexist , racist and religious jokes can be funny. They poke fun at silly stereotypes to lighten up life. And if you can't laugh at yourself life is going to be miserable

    I don't think rape or domestic violence or intellectually disable jokes are funny. Victims and people unable to defend the stereotype are not targets for jokes

    But, don't you think given recent history there are people alive today who have been victims of serious racial, religious, or sexual injustice?

    Plus I also disagree with this one because my child will be half African American and I don't want him or her to hear jokes that imply he or she is less than. I personally don't see the difference between making jokes about someone's race, intellectual disability or sexual orientation. They didn't choose it and they shouldn't be judged or marginalized because of it.

    Carm I see your point on laughing at yourself, and I see where you are coming from. I don't mean to jump on you. This is a personal pet peeve of mine, because I have family members who love racists jokes and I don't want my child hearing it from their family.
  • My UO: I think sexist , racist and religious jokes can be funny. They poke fun at silly stereotypes to lighten up life. And if you can't laugh at yourself life is going to be miserable I don't think rape or domestic violence or intellectually disable jokes are funny. Victims and people unable to defend the stereotype are not targets for jokes
    But, don't you think given recent history there are people alive today who have been victims of serious racial, religious, or sexual injustice? Plus I also disagree with this one because my child will be half African American and I don't want him or her to hear jokes that imply he or she is less than. I personally don't see the difference between making jokes about someone's race, intellectual disability or sexual orientation. They didn't choose it and they shouldn't be judged or marginalized because of it. Carm I see your point on laughing at yourself, and I see where you are coming from. I don't mean to jump on you. This is a personal pet peeve of mine, because I have family members who love racists jokes and I don't want my child hearing it from their family.

    I never think this kind of joking is ok around kids because they are so susceptible to having their opinions being shaped by anything they hear. I'm also more comfortable if the jokes are being made in a self critical way instead of a condescending way. ALSO While I'm fairly comfortable with sexist and religious jokes (which tend to be at my "expense"), I'm less comfortable with racist jokes, which are not usually aimed at me.

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  • carmstr4 said:

    My UO: I think sexist , racist and religious jokes can be funny. They poke fun at silly stereotypes to lighten up life. And if you can't laugh at yourself life is going to be miserable

    I don't think rape or domestic violence or intellectually disable jokes are funny. Victims and people unable to defend the stereotype are not targets for jokes

    But, don't you think given recent history there are people alive today who have been victims of serious racial, religious, or sexual injustice?

    Plus I also disagree with this one because my child will be half African American and I don't want him or her to hear jokes that imply he or she is less than. I personally don't see the difference between making jokes about someone's race, intellectual disability or sexual orientation. They didn't choose it and they shouldn't be judged or marginalized because of it.

    Carm I see your point on laughing at yourself, and I see where you are coming from. I don't mean to jump on you. This is a personal pet peeve of mine, because I have family members who love racists jokes and I don't want my child hearing it from their family.
    Of course implying they are less than would not be good or funny. Plus, you've got to know your audience. Family joking about race to a child isn't funny.

    Slave jokes aren't funny. Talking loud in movie theater jokes are. Women having no rights because they are less? No. Jokes about bad driving? Sure. People make fun of me for being southern, you take it in stride
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  • My own father in law makes racist jokes toward me such as " don't your people know how to do this quicker " when he was laying his garden. It doesn't bother me. It's funny. I don't think it should be done toward or around kids until they can understand but I feel like adults should be able to take a joke. My husbands best friend makes sexist jokes constantly. He is the person who taught me to chill out. But on the other hand they have to get me in the right mood. If I'm in a bad mood they know to back off. That's what makes it a joke. Doing it to make the person laugh not to actually make fun of them. I think people need to lighten up for sure. I hate raceism or sexism ( why can't I spell these today) when it's actually that. But a lot of the time I feel that when a person feels someone is being racist they really are the ones being racist. People pull that card way to easily.

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  • meganmccr said:

    I am so going to get flamed for this...

    I don't think the difference between sex and gender is that big of a deal when you are talking about an unborn baby. Obviously, as a child grows it becomes more of an issue. But in utero it isn't something to get your panties in a wad about.

    Thank you so much for putting this out there!! So sick of ppl getting so bent out of shape on this board about this. The need to correct ppl on their use of gender/sex is getting obnoxious...enough already!!!
    I agree, although I do understand why it's a sensitive issue. My big issue though is when someone has already corrected the OP for using the terms wrong and then a billion more people pile on and act all holier-than-thou just to make the OP feel like an asshole.


     

  • I am so going to get flamed for this... I don't think the difference between sex and gender is that big of a deal when you are talking about an unborn baby. Obviously, as a child grows it becomes more of an issue. But in utero it isn't something to get your panties in a wad about.
    I agree with this! flame away

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  • There's a "hilarious" video going around FB right now of a kid who is talking back and arguing with him mom. I really, really don't think it's funny and I think the kid needs to be corrected. And it bothers me that so many people think it's so funny. No wonder some kids have no respect for their parents, if this is how you let them talk to you.

    You stole my UO. I watched that clip last night & I was appauled, not amused. All children talk back & try to push limits, I get that. This is exactly why children have no respect for authority.



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  • carmstr4 said:
    My UO: I think sexist , racist and religious jokes can be funny. They poke fun at silly stereotypes to lighten up life. And if you can't laugh at yourself life is going to be miserable I don't think rape or domestic violence or intellectually disable jokes are funny. Victims and people unable to defend the stereotype are not targets for jokes
    But, don't you think given recent history there are people alive today who have been victims of serious racial, religious, or sexual injustice? Plus I also disagree with this one because my child will be half African American and I don't want him or her to hear jokes that imply he or she is less than. I personally don't see the difference between making jokes about someone's race, intellectual disability or sexual orientation. They didn't choose it and they shouldn't be judged or marginalized because of it. Carm I see your point on laughing at yourself, and I see where you are coming from. I don't mean to jump on you. This is a personal pet peeve of mine, because I have family members who love racists jokes and I don't want my child hearing it from their family.
    Of course implying they are less than would not be good or funny. Plus, you've got to know your audience. Family joking about race to a child isn't funny. Slave jokes aren't funny. Talking loud in movie theater jokes are. Women having no rights because they are less? No. Jokes about bad driving? Sure. People make fun of me for being southern, you take it in stride
    I don't like to limit what people can joke about. If I don't think it's funny, I don't laugh. I think laughing about the situation helps to give it less power. I feel the same way about "the "N" word". Calling it that just gives it more power. It's like calling Voldemort, "He who must not be named". In the wise words of Albus Dumbledore, "Fear of a name increases fear of the thing itself."

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  • lstrejcek said:


    carmstr4 said:

    carmstr4 said:

    My UO: I think sexist , racist and religious jokes can be funny. They poke fun at silly stereotypes to lighten up life. And if you can't laugh at yourself life is going to be miserable

    I don't think rape or domestic violence or intellectually disable jokes are funny. Victims and people unable to defend the stereotype are not targets for jokes

    But, don't you think given recent history there are people alive today who have been victims of serious racial, religious, or sexual injustice?

    Plus I also disagree with this one because my child will be half African American and I don't want him or her to hear jokes that imply he or she is less than. I personally don't see the difference between making jokes about someone's race, intellectual disability or sexual orientation. They didn't choose it and they shouldn't be judged or marginalized because of it.

    Carm I see your point on laughing at yourself, and I see where you are coming from. I don't mean to jump on you. This is a personal pet peeve of mine, because I have family members who love racists jokes and I don't want my child hearing it from their family.
    Of course implying they are less than would not be good or funny. Plus, you've got to know your audience. Family joking about race to a child isn't funny.

    Slave jokes aren't funny. Talking loud in movie theater jokes are. Women having no rights because they are less? No. Jokes about bad driving? Sure. People make fun of me for being southern, you take it in stride

    I don't like to limit what people can joke about. If I don't think it's funny, I don't laugh. I think laughing about the situation helps to give it less power. I feel the same way about "the "N" word". Calling it that just gives it more power. It's like calling Voldemort, "He who must not be named". In the wise words of Albus Dumbledore, "Fear of a name increases fear of the thing itself."


    Lol trebeck I said the EXACT same thing about the n word and voldemort awhile back in either UO or FFFC , great minds bone
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  • There's a "hilarious" video going around FB right now of a kid who is talking back and arguing with him mom. I really, really don't think it's funny and I think the kid needs to be corrected. And it bothers me that so many people think it's so funny. No wonder some kids have no respect for their parents, if this is how you let them talk to you.

    You stole my UO. I watched that clip last night & I was appauled, not amused. All children talk back & try to push limits, I get that. This is exactly why children have no respect for authority.


    OMG is it the Linda listen? Disgusting . He is clearly imitating someone that doesn't respect his mom. He even calls her honey ! Ugh
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  • carmstr4 said:
    There's a "hilarious" video going around FB right now of a kid who is talking back and arguing with him mom. I really, really don't think it's funny and I think the kid needs to be corrected. And it bothers me that so many people think it's so funny. No wonder some kids have no respect for their parents, if this is how you let them talk to you.
    You stole my UO. I watched that clip last night & I was appauled, not amused. All children talk back & try to push limits, I get that. This is exactly why children have no respect for authority.
    OMG is it the Linda listen? Disgusting . He is clearly imitating someone that doesn't respect his mom. He even calls her honey ! Ugh
    Okay. I'm not defending it, but I did read what the mom had to say about it. SHe said that someone they knew lost their kid in Disney for a while and the kid didn't know his parents names. Her son (in the video) got really upset that HE didn't know his parents names either and felt really empowered once he knew them. Now he uses them when he feels really passionately about something. I still don't like it, but he really wanted that cupcake.

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  • so many to choose from....

    Foreigners make great friends and great food but bad neighbors because smelling curry everyday in the apartment hallway sucks.
  • so many to choose from....


    Foreigners make great friends and great food but bad neighbors because smelling curry everyday in the apartment hallway sucks.
    I know I'm the chick who posted about racist and sexist jokes this morning but for some reason your usage of foreigner here feels almost derogatory to me
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  • carmstr4 said:
    There's a "hilarious" video going around FB right now of a kid who is talking back and arguing with him mom. I really, really don't think it's funny and I think the kid needs to be corrected. And it bothers me that so many people think it's so funny. No wonder some kids have no respect for their parents, if this is how you let them talk to you.
    You stole my UO. I watched that clip last night & I was appauled, not amused. All children talk back & try to push limits, I get that. This is exactly why children have no respect for authority.
    OMG is it the Linda listen? Disgusting . He is clearly imitating someone that doesn't respect his mom. He even calls her honey ! Ugh
    Okay. I'm not defending it, but I did read what the mom had to say about it. SHe said that someone they knew lost their kid in Disney for a while and the kid didn't know his parents names. Her son (in the video) got really upset that HE didn't know his parents names either and felt really empowered once he knew them. Now he uses them when he feels really passionately about something. I still don't like it, but he really wanted that cupcake.
    I understand that. I still think he should have been corrected. I always knew my parent's names. I also knew that I was never allowed to call them by name. Ever. I'm 33 years old & still would not dare. ETA: I also have issues with him talking over his mother. That wasn't tolerated when I was a kid. Andplusalso, when mom said no, the answer was no. We could plead our case, but if she came back with "I hear you but the answer is still no & this is why", the conversation was over.
    I totally agree and he should have been corrected and sent away. She should not have indulged him in his argument. As his mother, however, I might find it hard not to tape that and just let him keep going. He REALLY wanted that cupcake. I hope I can resist when this happens to me for the sake of future arguements.

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  • I am so going to get flamed for this... I don't think the difference between sex and gender is that big of a deal when you are talking about an unborn baby. Obviously, as a child grows it becomes more of an issue. But in utero it isn't something to get your panties in a wad about.
    THIS!

     

     

     

  • I feel very strongly about people who claim that being a SAHM can't be considered a "real job".  Sadly, I usually find that it's the working moms that are the haters in this scenario.  I am a working mom with a full-time "real job" and I would personally give my left kidney to be able to be a full-time SAHM. 

    Sorry, but feeding, teaching, playing, bathing, changing, and just all-around caring for a child on a daily basis is def considered a "real job" to me.  Is that not the same thing that we pay daycare teachers and school teachers do?  Anyone who thinks it's not just because they aren't getting paid or clocking in/out is just a dipshidiot in my book. 
    I totally agree with you. After all, if all of that wasn't a job, then what the hell was I being paid to do when I was a nanny for 5 years?

     

     

     

  • @‌carmstr4

    I must be confused - I thought this was the post for UO opinions and therefore I had no need to be PC.

    I was specifically referring to my neighbor who is here on a work visa and has every intention of returning to their home country as they are here for a project.

    I understand that america is made up all different types of people that don't talk like me, look like me, or cook like me.  I just didn't realize I had to provide caveats to my comment.

    So here is my comment edited for PCness

    "People who do not look like me, cook like me, talk like me, or are even remotely similar to myself no matter their status in this country from born and raised here and a full fledged american to here temporarily, make great friends and great food.  But they make bad neighbors because smelling strongly odiferous foods in the apartment hallway sucks."

    I will say I don't mind the bacon smell from another neighbor...
  • I feel like I should have ended that with a little "AmeriKUH" ps - how do I get this to be a thread - i pressed a button hoping it works?
  • Natural woodwork is ugly. Paint that shit.
    a little part of me just died when you said that. I LOVE wood and almost cried when I had a friend paint the wooden beams on her ceiling white.
    there are times and places where it makes sense for natural wood work. But i hate when every window, door frame and baseboard are natural. It looks really dated.
    see even then I think it depends on the house and where it is. but I get what you're saying.


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  • lesleyn21lesleyn21 member
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    mrsH1112 said:

    Mine...
    I look down and judge adults who are picky eaters and refuse to try new foods.  Right or wrong I think it makes them look like a toddler.

    I actually get mad when Im sitting there eating something as simple as say Hummus or pot stickers and I have a co worker come up to me and say "ugh, whats that?  That looks gross Id never try that"

    I totally get that not everyone grows up in an area with different food choices so your not exposed to it, but dont say you hate something or its gross till you try a little of it.


    I'm extremely picky and won't try new foods. I will never tell you it looks gross r say ew what is that. I just simply won't try it.

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  • I am so going to get flamed for this...

    I don't think the difference between sex and gender is that big of a deal when you are talking about an unborn baby. Obviously, as a child grows it becomes more of an issue. But in utero it isn't something to get your panties in a wad about.

    Thank you so much for putting this out there!! So sick of ppl getting so bent out of shape on this board about this. The need to correct ppl on their use of gender/sex is getting obnoxious...enough already!!!
  • mrsH1112 said:
    Mine...
    I look down and judge adults who are picky eaters and refuse to try new foods.  Right or wrong I think it makes them look like a toddler.

    I actually get mad when Im sitting there eating something as simple as say Hummus or pot stickers and I have a co worker come up to me and say "ugh, whats that?  That looks gross Id never try that"

    I totally get that not everyone grows up in an area with different food choices so your not exposed to it, but dont say you hate something or its gross till you try a little of it.
    I'm so with you on this. Even worse is when they pass that nonsense down to their kids. I may leave tomato off of my sandwich because I prefer it not be their, but if there is some in my salad I just eat it. I think people who pick through their food in public are redic.

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  • beckynsean11beckynsean11 member
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    lesleyn21 said:
    Mine...
    I look down and judge adults who are picky eaters and refuse to try new foods.  Right or wrong I think it makes them look like a toddler.

    I actually get mad when Im sitting there eating something as simple as say Hummus or pot stickers and I have a co worker come up to me and say "ugh, whats that?  That looks gross Id never try that"

    I totally get that not everyone grows up in an area with different food choices so your not exposed to it, but dont say you hate something or its gross till you try a little of it.
    I'm extremely picky and won't try new foods. I will never tell you it looks gross r say ew what is that. I just simply won't try it.
    This is me. I'm picky, I know it's a problem. Generally, I just don't eat the food. If someone asks if I want some, I usually leave it at "No thank you." If I'm feeling adventurous, I'll try a tiny taste. I never say I think it's gross without trying it. Unless it has pickles or mustard in it. Then it is most definitely gross & I don't need to try it to know it.

    ETA: I also know that my pickiness is not anyone else's problem. If I'm invited to someone's house for a meal, I eat whatever is served. No faces, no complaints.

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  • Pretzels are gross and pointless, unless covered with chocolate. At which point I'm eating it in spite of the pretzel interior, because chocolate, obviously.

    Chex mix also sucks.

    <------ Lame UO today, sorry :-)
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