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  • julesf817julesf817 member
    edited March 2014

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    I like nick names too. I call Shorty a bunch of pet names other than Shorty. It's not even close to her real name, but I think it's fun. DH has a

     

     

     

    very commonly shortened name and I always call him by the shortened version, never his full name.

    My UO- I think all people on welfare should be drug tested. There are people who need welfare because of disabilities, unexpected loss of job, the provider of the family left/died... Some people need it to get back on their feet, or for a short amount of time. Some people need to be on it for the remainder of their lives. Whatever their situation, if you need to be on welfare, you sure as hell can't afford pot, crack, heroin, meth... or any other kind of drug. I would even go as far as they shouldn't be able to afford liquor and cigarettes either. If they can't pass a random drug test, they should not be on welfare. If they really need to be on welfare, then they need to get their act together and clean up so they can receive those benefits.

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  • My full name is Abagail but I have always gone by Abby. Even when I started my career, I used Abby as my professional name. The only person who ever called me Abagail was my dad. When picking our baby's name, we wanted something we could shorten. Right now we are looking at the name Lillian and call her Lillie but I am good with whatever she wants to be called.

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  • IBackBevo said:
    One thing I wonder about on the entire welfare/drug testing debate:  If we are going to test welfare recipients, how come we don't consider drug testing college students before they get grants? 
    Good point! I came across this interesting video last week talking about who all is really dependent on "welfare" - meaning subsidies and assistance from the government. 
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  • My UO is my SIL and MIL trying to Nick name my unborn son. We have told people his name will be Jameson. I come from a family that has a Nick name for everyone, mine is Jilzy, but only family and my best friend calls me this. Never have I introduced myself as Jilzy. My father and his 15 brothers and sister all had crazy nicknames and because their family was so well known any one who knew them as kids call them by that Nick name. Shit hit the fan a few years back when my uncle passed away and his adult daughter put the announcement in the paper using my aunt and uncles nicknames instead of there real names. There is a definit place for using your nickname but work is not one of them. I do not want anyone nick naming my son. I love his name and I am going to correct anyone calling him anything different.
  • Kaylee524 said:
    IBackBevo said:
    One thing I wonder about on the entire welfare/drug testing debate:  If we are going to test welfare recipients, how come we don't consider drug testing college students before they get grants? 
    Good point! I came across this interesting video last week talking about who all is really dependent on "welfare" - meaning subsidies and assistance from the government. 
    I can't watch the video at work, but my "Tea Party" brother is always bashing on welfare recipients but yet he received all sorts of government aid to go to school.  How is that any different?
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  • @ABColeslaw Oh you, with your logic and compassion for fellow man.

    To me some things are more important than being "better" and lording my betterness (See what I did there with the "ness" )  over others....like I don't know...being a fucking person who cares for other people. 



    I'll support your stance on drug testing, but I refuse to get behind your use of "ness". RAGE.
  • JKBMA2014 said:
    OK branching of the nick name post. I get annoyed when people think every kid has to have a nick name. For example, when I announced our daughters name the first thing my sister said was "well what's going to be her nickname?!". She doesn't have to have a nick name. Not all babies have to have one.
    just remember that you can't control other people, so just because you don't call her by a nickname doesn't mean other people won't or she won't choose one when she's old enough.
    What is with random people deciding to use a name other than what someone introduces themselves with? I have a co-worker that calls me Nic-Nic. Has since day one. What? And she calls my co-worker Sherry "Sherrika". I just can't.
    This is so me. I'm that person who has a nickname for everyone. I call my H "D" (his name is Derek), I call my kids Cam and Kin, I just can't help it. Even people on here I create a nickname for.
    Oh, I totally do this. I don't even know how many nicknames I have for my husband, and half of them aren't even real words. I don't use them around anyone else, though, mostly because of the potential shame. I also already have quite a few nicknames for this baby, though most of them right now are not nice. I just find people like my co-worker really weird, because it's someone you don't know and have never met. Like, she was introduced to me via the office-wide, professional "hey, lookit this weirdo we hired' email, with my full name, then walks over and says "Hi, Nic-Nic."
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  • Mamazon2014Mamazon2014 member
    edited March 2014
    I get torn on the welfare issue because I live in an area with a high level of misuse. I dont believe we should deprive people of their basic needs and i'd rather see the money go to help others than other government waste, but it's hard to not get angry when someone makes it a lifestyle. I ended up unfriending a classmate on FB because she constantly bragged about how she was cheating the system. When her sister turned 18 she made a big post about how excited she and her mom were that they could go down and get her her own Bridge card with the hashtag #mo'moneybitches. 

    Being in Detroit, you see many sides of the system and there are times it makes you angry when you see the people cheating the system getting more than they should and then you see the people who are trying to do it the right way and getting denied even when they have true need. 

    My opinion is that unless it directly affects me, it's not my business. I'm not going to be supportive of those who abuse the system or condone their behavior, but at the same time, it's not hurting me. And for every person abusing the system, there  are more than likely at least 20 more using it the way it was intended. 

     








  • Would legalizing (and taxing the crap out of) drugs be a way to solve the "hey everyone on welfare should pee in a cup" thing?  Pretty sure no, actually, but I want drugs to be legal anyway.  It's hard enough to deal with drug problems, as @abcoleslaw pointed out, and having them be super illegal doesn't make sense to me.  (Age limits, sobriety while driving/working, those make sense.  Basically the alcohol rules.  Illegal altogether doesn't make sense to me.) 

    In addition to all the humanitarian reasons to not drug test people on welfare, I went to the DMV earlier this week and it completely reinforced my belief that the government is not good at administering things very well.  I can't even imagine how much money and time would be wasted waiting for a stupid pee test that people on welfare could be using to try and find a job or hang out with their kids or whatever. 
  • Kaylee524 said:


    ashtog said:



    Empireceo

    I like nick names too. I call Shorty a bunch of pet names other than Shorty. It's not even close to her real name, but I think it's fun. DH has a very commonly shortened name and I always call him by the shortened version, never his full name.

    My UO- I think all people on welfare should be drug tested. There are people who need welfare because of disabilities, unexpected loss of job, the provider of the family left/died... Some people need it to get back on their feet, or for a short amount of time. Some people need to be on it for the remainder of their lives. Whatever their situation, if you need to be on welfare, you sure as hell can't afford pot, crack, heroin, meth... or any other kind of drug. I would even go as far as they shouldn't be able to afford liquor and cigarettes either. If they can't pass a random drug test, they should not be on welfare. If they really need to be on welfare, then they need to get their act together and clean up so they can receive those benefits.

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    Were you ladies on the bump-wide UO/FFFC thread earlier this week? They went into this in detail. Two main points:

    1. Sure, maybe you think the recipients don't "deserve" their benefits if they're using drugs - but what about their kids? Should they be punished for their parents' actions?

    2. Drug testing in other states has been an abysmal failure, with the program costing more than it saves. In Florida, only 2.6% of those tested were found to have used drugs, resulting in a cost to the state of about $45k more than it saved on rejecting those benefits.

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    Sorry I missed the UO/FFFC about welfare. Didn't mean to be repetitive.
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  • edited March 2014
    @TheBeeCharmer- I also hate Zumba and the clothes that go with it.  I just can't get on board.

    @hhegyesi- I also hate that!  I had an 18 year old student who still went by Timmy.  It made me think of two cartoon characters:image and image


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  • hfooter said:
    As in I hate the word " irregardless".
    I am horrible with the English language. Grammar, spelling, you name it. But it's not even a real word, right? Just makes me think of Johnjay from The Johnjay and Rich show. Johnjay is kind of a douche and always says it.
    You totally made me think of this:
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  • yvanehtniojyvanehtnioj member
    edited March 2014
    IBackBevo said:
    Kaylee524 said:
    IBackBevo said:
    One thing I wonder about on the entire welfare/drug testing debate:  If we are going to test welfare recipients, how come we don't consider drug testing college students before they get grants? 
    Good point! I came across this interesting video last week talking about who all is really dependent on "welfare" - meaning subsidies and assistance from the government. 
    I can't watch the video at work, but my "Tea Party" brother is always bashing on welfare recipients but yet he received all sorts of government aid to go to school.  How is that any different?
    Ugh I have a Fox News loving BIL who rails against all kinds of government benefits but he is on permanent disability, receives county health insurance, and took grants for college. When Obamacare was first passed he actually had the gall to say "Now kids won't have any motivation to find jobs because they can just stay on their parents health insurance until they're 26" when his own mother took a part time job to pay his health insurance premiums because his parents kept him on their insurance well past the previous 21 cutoff point. I was like, "You mean it might take away your mom's motivation to go to work so her and your dad can pay your $600 a month premiums?" His girlfriend is also super "pro-life" but she's had an abortion but that one was different than all those "whores" who "use it as birth control" because she was in an abusive relationship.

    TL;DR: People are hypocrites.

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  • Kate070Kate070 member
    edited March 2014
    Okay I'm about the become the least popular person on the board.  Its all good.  Drug testing.  Sigh. 

    People with drug addiction, alcohol addiction, pain killer addiction....what have you.  They are fucking human beings.  Those are illnesses.  ILLNESSES.  Those people aren't just "addicts"  they aren't all the scum of the earth.  They are fucking people like you and I AND some of them are very good people...even awesome people.  They need to eat too. 

    I firmly believe that we need to take care of people when they are ill, when they are poor, when they are destitute...what have you.  It is an illness. And before any of you speak about cleaning up if they want to eat....well you truly do not appreciate what it takes for someone to "clean up"  Most of us on this board would never ever ever ever be able to do it.  I hope you never have to prove me wrong, I really hope you don't. 

    I've never done drugs, not because I'm better, no because I've watched more than one or two people be destroyed by them.  Good people, people that horrid things have happened to, lead to that path for whatever reason.  I've seen these people struggle to get clean, the torture of it, truly unhappy lives.  For fuck sake, I'm damn glad they weren't starving to death at the same time. 

    No one starts out saying "I"m going to become and addict, lose myself, lose control, be unable to work or take care of my kids, lose everything important to me"  FFS it is a serious illness, that is comorbid with so many other things.  We don't starve people who need help, we fucking help them. 
    If we weren't already pregnant, I'd totally ask you to have my babies.

    ETA:  Also, as people pushing for drug testing claim to be doing so out of financial concern, the point that another PP made cannot be stressed enough: Drug Testing Costs States MORE!
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  • sisterjanetsisterjanet member
    edited March 2014
    From the candy thread, I have another opinion.  We are a board of food pushers, or at least enablers.  That might not even be opinion; it seems like fact.  I find it fun, but also a little troubling, most likely because I'm a fat girl.  That's probably the proper opinion part, that it troubles me sometimes how we have food bandwagons.

    (It's really true about being a fat girl.  BMI was 35 pre-pregnancy.  If food were a facebook friend, the relationship status would be "It's complicated," which is probably the genesis of this opinion.)
  • ashtog said:
    @ykristos I don't want to start a flame war or anything, definitely not my intention, and I am not *backpedaling* or going to go through your post point by point. I was just stating my opinion, which is obviously unpopular on the UO thread. haha, go figure. I don't want to go into detail, as I think that would probably land me in even more hot water, so I'm going to concede and just walk away from this topic at this point. **walks away**
    What was the point in posting at all then? 
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  • ashtog said:
    @ykristos I don't want to start a flame war or anything, definitely not my intention, and I am not *backpedaling* or going to go through your post point by point. I was just stating my opinion, which is obviously unpopular on the UO thread. haha, go figure. I don't want to go into detail, as I think that would probably land me in even more hot water, so I'm going to concede and just walk away from this topic at this point. **walks away**
    I'm not trying to start a flame war (this put Wrecking Ball in my head, though, and ugh), but you posted a number of really ignorant and cliched statements that have little base in reality, so I responded to them. If "detail" is more of your personal opinion instead of fact, then you're probably right. But I hope you consider that your opinion is unpopular and flameworthy for a reason -- it's invalid and offensive. 


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  • sisterjanetsisterjanet member
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    ashtog said:
    @ykristos I don't want to start a flame war or anything, definitely not my intention, and I am not *backpedaling* or going to go through your post point by point. I was just stating my opinion, which is obviously unpopular on the UO thread. haha, go figure. I don't want to go into detail, as I think that would probably land me in even more hot water, so I'm going to concede and just walk away from this topic at this point. **walks away**
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think one of her really big points is that you don't know what you think you know about your brother's situation.  I can totally see feeling bitter when you think he's a lazy scammer and you and your husband are hard-working tax payers, but (and I feel a little fluffy and ridiculous for saying it but can't think how else to put it) you could take today's UO thread as an opportunity for personal growth, and realize that everybody has things going on you know nothing about, and maybe try to learn more about what it's like for some segment of the group "everybody else."

    (ETA Personal growth is hard.  I don't mean to sound like I want to start something, and hope I don't, but I really do think you could grow from this.  I hope you do.)
  • ashtog said:
    @ykristos I don't want to start a flame war or anything, definitely not my intention, and I am not *backpedaling* or going to go through your post point by point. I was just stating my opinion, which is obviously unpopular on the UO thread. haha, go figure. I don't want to go into detail, as I think that would probably land me in even more hot water, so I'm going to concede and just walk away from this topic at this point. **walks away**
    I feel like, being Canadian, it's hard to weigh in on this and really have much of a case without knowing the ins and outs of the US welfare system. You're comparing apples to oranges when you talk about what's happening in Alberta vs. what the majority are discussing about the situation in the US. Not that addiction troubles and scamming the system doesn't happen in both countries, (and I have to say I'm with @ABColeslaw on that subject) but when you start talking about tax dollars and income levels and so on, it's just not comparable anymore. You're certainly entitled to your opinion, and this is the UO thread after all, but I think Canadian welfare issues are a separate beast.
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  • Jane C said:

    I guess my UO - which is kinda a response to Ashtog- is I actually don't really care if People on Welfare are using drugs.  I'm not for drugs, but I just don't really care if they are using drugs and I really don't care if they waste their money either or buy junk food.  And I really don't want the government to waste money on drug testing, which I think would also be incredibly intrusive on privacy-  Peeing in a cup in front of another person.


    I like nicknames sometimes.  I tend to use strange ones.  For example, DD is called by me and DH as Potomous (short for hippopotamus).  I even shortened her Nickname to another nickname P.O.T. or sometimes I call her The Notorious P.O.T.  We have gone through many other nicknames for her too and DH has had some very strange nicknames.  

    I guess my other UO is I hate all of those cop/ detective/ legal procedural shows like NCIS or Law and Order, etc.  For one, I hate legal dramas because I just sit and complain about how inaccurate and how unlike real life they are (as a lawyer).  I also think they are always predictable (formula) and are just overly
    melodramatic.  

    I'm not a lawyer, but I worked as a paralegal for five years, it was pretty shocking to see how unrealistic courtroom situations are portrayed on TV.

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  • My UO; I hate the word 'texting'. When people first started using it I was like, that is not going to catch on. People sound uneducated when they say it. But I did and now it's used everywhere, and it sounds stupid. I will rearrange my whole sentence to avoid saying it.
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  • libbylu7 said:
    My UO; I hate the word 'texting'. When people first started using it I was like, that is not going to catch on. People sound uneducated when they say it. But I did and now it's used everywhere, and it sounds stupid. I will rearrange my whole sentence to avoid saying it.
    Hmmmm, what do you say in place of it?
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  • libbylu7 said:
    My UO; I hate the word 'texting'. When people first started using it I was like, that is not going to catch on. People sound uneducated when they say it. But I did and now it's used everywhere, and it sounds stupid. I will rearrange my whole sentence to avoid saying it.
    Instead of using the word texting my mom says call... drives me nuts. "Did he just call you?" "Are you calling him?" It's like no.... your standing next to me you can see he didn't call me..you mean text mom TEXT... calling is completely different!


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    libbylu7 said:

    My UO; I hate the word 'texting'. When people first started using it I was like, that is not going to catch on. People sound uneducated when they say it. But I did and now it's used everywhere, and it sounds stupid. I will rearrange my whole sentence to avoid saying it.

    Hmmmm, what do you say in place of it?


    I say I sent him a text. I guess that usually only works for 'texted' which sounds equally dumb if not worse than 'texting.' I guess there really isn't anything it just sounds dumb. Ha!
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  • libbylu7 said:

    My UO; I hate the word 'texting'. When people first started using it I was like, that is not going to catch on. People sound uneducated when they say it. But I did and now it's used everywhere, and it sounds stupid. I will rearrange my whole sentence to avoid saying it.

    You know it's an actual word, right? And not just a slang term. Ex: Texting and driving is illegal in Washington.

    So the legitimate use of a word sounds uneducated? Got it.

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