breech/transverse mamas: who is doing inversions already?

MamaFantastic · February 2014

my decidedly transverse little girl is too comfy where she is. time to shake things up! i've started doing inversions (read more about them here if you're not familiar: https://spinningbabies.com/techniques/241-inversion ) and i'd love to figure out who else here is also doing them or is planning on doing them in the upcoming few weeks. inversions are great for breech or transverse babies, so i imagine many of us might potentially benefit from this technique. evidently it's very effective in certain cases.

anyway... if you ARE doing inversions to help correct positioning, or even if you are just interested in talking about it more, chime in! i'd love to start a discussion.

Cecilbear · February 2014

I've read that these are good to do regardless of positioning. True? I wanted to start them last week, but was hesitant bc I was on pelvic rest for a low-lying placenta. Now that I'm all clear, I may reconsider.

NYJodway · February 2014

Our LO seems to be spending more time with her head down lately, so that's good. We'll see how it goes in the coming weeks (I'm on the April caboose, so my baby is still on the smaller side). I will be talking to my doctor about inversions at my appointment tomorrow. Before doing anything, I want to make sure that baby doesn't seem to have a problem related to cord length or anything like that.

At least she's out of the flipping over constantly like a rotisserie chicken phase that she was in for a while!

hlm184 · February 2014

No way I can do that until DH gets home to spot me lol

allyandmike24 · February 2014

Yup, although there's still a chance she'll move I've been doing forward leaning inversions and the breech tilt. I'm also going to a chiropractor who specializes in Webster technique, so if she's still transverse in a few weeks, she'll start trying to do adjustments to get her head down.

cjpell0 · February 2014

Last time I was at the OB, little guy was head down but I can't figure out if he's still there or not. I think he still is, but I have a feeling he's sunny-side up. I'm going to ask at my appointment on Wednesday and if he's moved I'll definitely be doing this!!!

MamaFantastic · February 2014

^^ i did some research into webster-certified chiropractors this afternoon, and i'm planning on finding a great one this week, hopefully.

also reading more about moxibustion... that just screams kooky voodoo science to me, but it seems like it really works! crazy. anyone have any insight?

haziedaze · February 2014

This guy is still breech, but it's early. I actually think not having his head pushing against my cervix may be a good thing right now. I'll start some of these techniques once I'm 30-32 weeks I think. Although it makes me nervous that if things head south I'll need a c/s because I was able to have a vaginal delivery at 29 weeks with my son.

NYJodway · February 2014

MamaFantastic said:

^^ i did some research into webster-certified chiropractors this afternoon, and i'm planning on finding a great one this week, hopefully.

also reading more about moxibustion... that just screams kooky voodoo science to me, but it seems like it really works! crazy. anyone have any insight?

I don't know anything about it, but sometimes things work and it takes us a while to understand why they work. Sometimes, the science needs a few years to catch up with the practice.

allyandmike24 · February 2014

@Mamafantastic mine is just outside of Boston and I'd be glad to PM you more info if you're interested! Re: moxibustion- I'm curious about it, too...I'm wondering now if my acupuncturist will do it...

spocker · February 2014

Definitely going to start doing the Spinning Babies exercises - haven't done much yet since I'm only at 28 wks today. In addition to head down, I'd love for this baby NOT to come "sunny side up."

Avion22 · February 2014

I've tried by my heartburn is WAY too bad to be upside-down....

MamaFantastic · February 2014

i'm all head-spinny right now because i just did an inversion followed by a 10 minute breech tilt. my husband had to come pick me up off the floor

she did make some big movements while i was in my tilted state, though, so we'll see how that affected things.

i haven't heard anything confirming or denying this, but... is it bad to do TOO many inversions in a day? they say do it 2-3 times daily, but what if i tried to do it 5 or 7 times? has anyone heard anything about this?

LittleLady77 · February 2014

Baby A is in a good spot but if he wasn't I would be on spinningbabies.com all day. I really don't want a c section.

ksulli · February 2014

Not yet, but I just found out on Friday that baby flipped wrong side up in the last few weeks. We were head down three weeks ago. I'll do it occasionally if LO is still the wrong way at 33w. DD flipped somewhere between 34 and 36w with doing some spinning babies stuff, so I'm not concerned just yet.

MissyNWill · February 2014

At my last US at around 26 weeks (because I was having degenerative fibroid pain), baby was transverse. I've looked at the spinning babies website and I can't, for the life of me, figure out what position she's in. Both DH and I feel hard body parts, especially around my belly button but I'm not sure if its her butt or head.
How did you ladies figure out baby's position?
Also, I wish I could remember where I read this but it sticks in my mind that doing versions runs the risk of the cord getting tangled up, possibly around baby's neck. It's something I want to ask the doctor next week.

Avion22 · February 2014

@missyNWill, I can tell my baby's position from where I feel the kicks (upper right) and where I feel the hiccups (lower left). Otherwise, with an anterior placenta I can't feel a difference from the outside.

irisheyez7 · February 2014

She was breech 3 weeks ago but we are having a growth/position scan on Tues so we shall see where she is then. If she's stubborn (like her momma) I may be joining you ladies.

katiedidthat · February 2014

I haven't started them this pregnancy yet (I'm asking at my appointment on the 10th if we're still transverse or breech, the little movements feel similar to my DS who was transverse but I'm also still getting a lot of big movements), but I did them with DS and he didn't become fully head down until about 2 hours after I was checked into the hospital.

Andrewsgal · February 2014

This little guy has been breech the entire time. I stated seeing a Webster certified chiropractor last Friday and will go once a week for now.

MamaFantastic · February 2014

MissyNWill said:
Also, I wish I could remember where I read this but it sticks in my mind that doing versions runs the risk of the cord getting tangled up, possibly around baby's neck. It's something I want to ask the doctor next week.

Yes and no. Versions (physical, external manipulation of baby to force into the correct position... also referred to as external versions) DO pose that potential risk since deliberate force is involved, but I don't think inversions (making your own body go almost upside down to open the pelvis and passively "persuade" baby to flip in his/her own through gravity and stretching) pose the same risk. Those two little letters at the beginning make a big difference

nicole mackenzie · February 2014

How are you telling which way baby is pointing?

I can tell when she's sideways in there but not where her head is...

Brigie029 · February 2014

I won't have another ultrasound for 3 weeks, and I'm at 28 weeks next week, any way to tell where my lo is positioned?

MissyNWill · February 2014

MamaFantastic said:

MissyNWill said:
Also, I wish I could remember where I read this but it sticks in my mind that doing versions runs the risk of the cord getting tangled up, possibly around baby's neck. It's something I want to ask the doctor next week.
Yes and no. Versions (physical, external manipulation of baby to force into the correct position... also referred to as external versions) DO pose that potential risk since deliberate force is involved, but I don't think inversions (making your own body go almost upside down to open the pelvis and passively "persuade" baby to flip in his/her own through gravity and stretching) pose the same risk. Those two little letters at the beginning make a big difference

Thanks for clearing that up

CalinAZ · February 2014

My little one seems to be hanging out transverse for now. I'm also in the caboose, so he has some time yet, but I'll be curious to see where he is at my next appointment and might start doing some movements then, if he's still the same. I am trying to do yoga daily, though, in the meantime, which is supposed to provide some extra space for baby to move, in certain poses.

Definitely want to avoid a breech baby

Linnea503 · February 2014

I think this boy is still flipping around but he's been breech at my appointments. I've been doing the inversions and I do notice he's in a new position now, I think head down. I've read the inversions are good no matter the position. Breech tilt should only be done if you are sure LO is breech/transverse because I guess it can flip a head down LO around the wrong way.

I've also been trying to have better posture, not cross my legs when sitting, and going on hands and knees when I feel he is really active.

I'm going to do moxibustion at 36+ weeks if he is confirmed breech at that point.

MamaFantastic · February 2014

Brigie029 said:
I won't have another ultrasound for 3 weeks, and I'm at 28 weeks next week, any way to tell where my lo is positioned?

I feel her hiccups in my lower left quadrant... and her heartbeat is always on the left side too at my appts.

AcaAwkward · February 2014

MamaFantastic said:
^^ i did some research into webster-certified chiropractors this afternoon, and i'm planning on finding a great one this week, hopefully.

also reading more about moxibustion... that just screams kooky voodoo science to me, but it seems like it really works! crazy. anyone have any insight?

I don't know how or why it works, but one of my good friends flipped her little girl at 38 weeks and she swears that's what did the trick finally (she'd tried everything).

crkrupa · February 2014

I started doing them this past week. At my 28 week appt she was head down but on Wednesday at 31 weeks she was breech. She has been moving though, today she feels transverse? So yeah thought the day I have been doing inversions, yoga, cat/cow stretches, hip and lower back stretches. I have a bad lower back and SPD so I need to be stretching stuff out anyways, this has been a good reminder to not get lazy about it.

rockstarlaw · February 2014

This is probably a stupid question: but how would I know if the baby was breech, etc?

Sorry to sound like a moron, but I'm a FTM...and also an A14 caboose due April 30...maybe they check this at a later appointment? My dr hasn't said anything one way or the other as to how the baby is positioned.

Sorry for the stupid question if I'm the only one who doesn't know this...

MamaFantastic · February 2014

@rockstarlaw , i don't know that i'd be able to discern a breech from a head-down baby, but i can DEFINITELY feel the shape of my transverse baby! i have a big hard lump on my left and a big hard lump on my right, and the top of my belly is squishy. you can feel her basic positioning is like a sideways pill right now. i only know her head is to the left because of where her heartbeat is and were i feel her hiccups. also... it took me weeks and weeks to arrive at this conclusion. it wasn't like i knew right away where she was. it was a combination of my midwife telling me her positioning and me confirming it between appts by just feeling around and noticing where her big lumps are.

irisheyez7 · February 2014

I can't tell what position she is in for the life of me. I feel 90% of her movements just above my belly button, very rarely do I feel anything in my lower abdomen. Though I don't know what I am feeling above my belly button, could be her head, elbow, leg, bum...who knows...?

LEIGHLOVE09 · February 2014

My last pregnancy DD was breach for a while and I did some yoga moves my prenatal yoga instructor told me to do to help baby flip. It worked. Similar to an inversion but I wasn't almost upside down like that. Everything i did I could do on my bed and I would do it at night and first thing in morning. She was flipped normal by 36 weeks. A friend of mine recently had a breech baby and I told her what moves I did and 2 weeks later at her 38 week appt her baby was head down. It's not too late. They really can flip at any time!

pmattingly927 · February 2014

I am 31.5 weeks and I feel as though my baby has been transverse for most of my pregnancy. I get really hung up on his position at times, because I am planning a natural home birth and if he is transverse that's not going to happen. I've been doing the spinning babies exercises, but I did just find this video which I thought was very helpful and made me feel better after watching it so here it is and I hope it helps everyone else that is worried about the position of their LO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pteEYX8zwWc 

Christinekeyser · February 2014

My yoga teacher won't let me do these until at least week 38 and won't let me do them on my own. But the yogis believe that inversions during pregnancy should only be done at the end to flip the baby. Way to go ladies who have the guys to do this at home! I have been doing inversions in yoga on my own before pregnancy but have become a major wimp and a 'by the book' type of person since being pregnant.

pdilly2b · February 2014

It worked for DS last time (he was transverse, with his head pointed right at my hip), so I definitely will start inversions if this one isn't in position after my appt on the 12th (I think she's head down, but not sure).

MamaFantastic · February 2014

update: i think she may have turned more southward!! i'm feeling her hiccups in my crotch these days. i have an appointment with my midwife on tuesday, so we'll see what she says.

my chiropractor adjusted me on monday, and again on wednesday, but on wednesday's visit he said he couldn't even feel the tension on whatever tendon or muscle is usually stretched by doing the Webster technique. he said that was a very good sign, and he didn't want to see me again for at least a week.

kseccomb17 · February 2014

I think mine moved from downward to transverse. Ugh, I'm stressing!

pigtails1031777 · February 2014

I did acupuncture & moxiebustion and EV. The moxi is basically holding a cigar to your inner ankle. I burned my self falling asleep outside while I was doing it. Ya hurt like a bitch
I also did version. It was AWFUL! I will never do again. She didn't budge. I started to gush blood after and thank god it was brown and not red. However scary as crap when it felt like I peed myself and when my husband looks it's blood. I've never seen so many people rush into a room before.
Baby was being strangled by her cord that's why she didn't move.
Needless to say this baby is all over the place. My goal is vbac but I will never do another EV again.

Momof8inSC · February 2014

I'll be 30 wks with twins this week. Baby B flipped transverse Monday after being head down the entire time (I have scans every other week). I did the rebozo technique and some peppermint essential oil on Wednesday. Nothing. Went to Chiro (websters doesn't work with twins) to see if my pelvis was tilted back. Sure enough, it was and he adjusted that and my neck. She flipped 2 hrs later.

I also had the websters technique done with baby #5 at 31 and 32 wks. It worked second time and I have a successful VBAC.

kwolslager · February 2014

rockstarlaw said:
This is probably a stupid question: but how would I know if the baby was breech, etc?

Sorry to sound like a moron, but I'm a FTM...and also an A14 caboose due April 30...maybe they check this at a later appointment? My dr hasn't said anything one way or the other as to how the baby is positioned.

Sorry for the stupid question if I'm the only one who doesn't know this...

I dido everything MamaFantastic said. Also, an indicator is if you're measuring big. At my 26 week doc appt I was measuring at 32 weeks! Doctor ordered an ultrasound as a precautionary measure, and it revealed baby was breech. Everything else looked healthy and normal. But with her head up under my boobs it made for a bigger bump.

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