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Please for the love of all things controversial, someone have a real UO this week.

 

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  • MommyKristin88MommyKristin88 member
    Dang I don't have a UO (yet), but I do have a confession for FFFC. Hopefully I remember it tomorrow!!!

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  • rfrazier611rfrazier611 member
    MitsB707 said:
    I have one, but I've got to post and go back to work.  Sorry!

    I think the parents of the kid in this article are assholes.  Here's a synopsis: person sees kid climbing on sculpture in a museum, tells parents "I didn't think their kids should be playing on a $10 million artwork. The woman turned around and told me I didn't know anything about kids and she was sorry if I ever had any." The parents had left before security got there, but still.  What kind of dbag lets their kids do that and just sits back to watch?  I'd be mortified.

    https://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/parents-allow-kids-play-million-dollar-tate-sculpture-173000910.html
    I think that most people who claim to enjoy *that* type of art are either lying to appear sophisticated, or actually insane.

    Those parents need a good smack in the face.
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  • TrueBeliever925TrueBeliever925 member
    rfrazier611 said:
    I think most people haven't developed any critical thinking skills.
    I agree. Of course this is just a generalization by saying "most people" but I honestly think it's lost with each generation. We (as a society) have become so lazy by letting others and even technology determine things for ourselves and I truly believe it's going to just get worse and worse. It also seems like we're running more and more on emotions versus actual logical thought. Everything has become so easy for us, which is wonderful, but to use these conveniences every day, every minute, makes people think less and less. 



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  • MitsB707MitsB707 member
    rfrazier611 said:
    MitsB707 said:
    I have one, but I've got to post and go back to work.  Sorry!

    I think the parents of the kid in this article are assholes.  Here's a synopsis: person sees kid climbing on sculpture in a museum, tells parents "I didn't think their kids should be playing on a $10 million artwork. The woman turned around and told me I didn't know anything about kids and she was sorry if I ever had any." The parents had left before security got there, but still.  What kind of dbag lets their kids do that and just sits back to watch?  I'd be mortified.

    https://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/parents-allow-kids-play-million-dollar-tate-sculpture-173000910.html
    I think that most people who claim to enjoy *that* type of art are either lying to appear sophisticated, or actually insane.

    Those parents need a good smack in the face.
    Lol, I'm not even going to comment on the sculpture as it's not my cup of tea, but to each their own.  Regardless, it was a sculpture in a museum that wasn't supposed to be touched, let alone climbed on.  I wholeheartedly agree with a smack in the face.  :)
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  • Leosmom13Leosmom13 member
    LokiLahve said:

    orlaithsheanon16 said:

    Ok ill go! I think people who smoke weed/ do any drugs as adults are stupid and immature! Particularly those with children.

    I disagree. If pot were legal, I think it would be a better alternative to alcohol or even certain medications (Xanax, etcetera). No chemicals, no addiction...but of course should be used in moderation & responsibly.
    I guess my UO is pot should be legal.

    Edit: words are hard
    If it was safe and non-addictive then it would be legal IMO. It may not be as addictive as other substances but I do believe it is still addictive. I also don't think we should be finding substitutes for alcohol and pain medication addiction, we should just he trying to solve those issues.
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  • NikkiD522NikkiD522 member
    @MitsB707 I will second your UO and say... I used to give parents the benefit of the doubt because I wasn't one myself so I didn't judge. But... we were at the vet the other day with our sick pup and all of the other sick pets and some dude was just letting his 3 year old run around bothering the pets and their owners. The one poor lady was clearly distressed about her sick dog, and this kid is all up in her face. Then... he proceeded to follow my husband and 90 lb dog out of the office ... our dog has never bit nor shown aggression, but who's to say he wouldn't after the not so fun visit we just had?  

    Ok, that was more of a rant than anything. Long story longer, I get you can't control everything your kid does or says, but when it begins to affect others adversely, it's your responsibility to intervene. 
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  • kkay1982kkay1982 member
    I hate most modern art installations. A pile of milk jugs in the middle of a room? No thank you. I understand that not all art is beautiful but I think museum quality art should show skill, not just random ideas.

    Now this is an art installation I can get behind: https://blog.sfgate.com/cityexposed/2013/11/24/gone-with-the-tide/#18326101=0
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  • CourtJackCourtJack member
    rfrazier611 said:
    orlaithsheanon16 said:
    Ok ill go! I think people who smoke weed/ do any drugs as adults are stupid and immature! Particularly those with children.
    I disagree. If pot were legal, I think it would be a better alternative to alcohol or even certain medications (Xanax, etcetera). No chemicals, no addiction...but of course should be used in moderation & responsibly. I guess my UO is pot should be legal. Edit: words are hard
    If it was safe and non-addictive then it would be legal IMO. It may not be as addictive as other substances but I do believe it is still addictive. I also don't think we should be finding substitutes for alcohol and pain medication addiction, we should just he trying to solve those issues.
    Lol.  Saying pot is addictive is like saying eating couch cushions is addictive.  One can become addicted to eating couch cushions, sure, but not because the cushions themselves are addictive.  Physical v. psychological addiction.

    Also, governments have always been totally accurate in determining what is safe.
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  • Leosmom13Leosmom13 member
    CourtJack said:


    orlaithsheanon16 said:

    Ok ill go! I think people who smoke weed/ do any drugs as adults are stupid and immature! Particularly those with children.

    I've already said this on a pot debate, but my husband smokes pot. He has a joint most nights. That doesn't make him stupid and immature, unless you think it's stupid and immature to have a glass of wine each night. He's a responsible person and a wonderful father. His smoking pot doesn't change that in the least. You aren't automatically an idiot just b/c you use marijuana. Maybe that's my UO. There are many intelligent, successful and responsible people who smoke pot. 

    I didn't make any comment on how good your dh is as a father. However I stand by my opinion I think its stupid as an adult to be using any drugs. I do think its fine to have a glass of wine the odd night but if you have to have a glass of wine every night I would probably be inclined to say that that's not healthy either.
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  • TrueBeliever925TrueBeliever925 member
    CourtJack said:
    orlaithsheanon16 said:
    Ok ill go! I think people who smoke weed/ do any drugs as adults are stupid and immature! Particularly those with children.
    I've already said this on a pot debate, but my husband smokes pot. He has a joint most nights. That doesn't make him stupid and immature, unless you think it's stupid and immature to have a glass of wine each night. He's a responsible person and a wonderful father. His smoking pot doesn't change that in the least. You aren't automatically an idiot just b/c you use marijuana. Maybe that's my UO. There are many intelligent, successful and responsible people who smoke pot. 
    @courtjack. I can't help but look at your siggy picture now and try and picture you H smoking pot. :) Haha. But honestly, if he's responsible, then what's the harm? 

     There's always going to be irresponsible users of any type of legal recreational or illegal drugs. But it seems like there is no way to eliminate that, even with laws, unfortunately. Even if breathalyzers were in installed in every vehicle, people who have been drinking could have friends blow for them. It's always going to be a vicious cycle with alcohol, pot, and other drugs. 



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  • CourtJackCourtJack member
    BlondieBia21 said:
    @courtjack, The difference between me having a glass of wine or smoking a joint is that one is legal, and one is not. I do agree in a way that someone smoking a joint doesn't make them automatically stupid/irresponsible, but in a way- it is because it's illegal and he could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor or felony, or have jail time because he's choosing something that's illegal. That is the irresponsible part to me.
    Valid argument. I guess I just consider the risk of that as happening very very unlikely and wouldn't go as far to call him irresponsible.
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  • Leosmom13Leosmom13 member
    CourtJack said:


    BlondieBia21 said:

    @courtjack,
    The difference between me having a glass of wine or smoking a joint is that one is legal, and one is not. I do agree in a way that someone smoking a joint doesn't make them automatically stupid/irresponsible, but in a way- it is because it's illegal and he could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor or felony, or have jail time because he's choosing something that's illegal. That is the irresponsible part to me.

    Valid argument. I guess I just consider the risk of that as happening very very unlikely and wouldn't go as far to call him irresponsible.

    Genuine question though @CourtJack no snark intended. Do you not think that you dh's casual smoke in the evening could turn into an addiction? I mean its definetly true to say we can become addicted to anything coffee, chocolate etc but there are adverse effects to pot that I guess I just wouldn't be happy to have around my children.
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  • CourtJackCourtJack member
    orlaithsheanon16 said:
    orlaithsheanon16 said:
    Ok ill go! I think people who smoke weed/ do any drugs as adults are stupid and immature! Particularly those with children.
    I've already said this on a pot debate, but my husband smokes pot. He has a joint most nights. That doesn't make him stupid and immature, unless you think it's stupid and immature to have a glass of wine each night. He's a responsible person and a wonderful father. His smoking pot doesn't change that in the least. You aren't automatically an idiot just b/c you use marijuana. Maybe that's my UO. There are many intelligent, successful and responsible people who smoke pot. 
    I didn't make any comment on how good your dh is as a father. However I stand by my opinion I think its stupid as an adult to be using any drugs. I do think its fine to have a glass of wine the odd night but if you have to have a glass of wine every night I would probably be inclined to say that that's not healthy either.
    You said you think people who do drugs (ie/weed) are stupid and immature. I was defending my H by referencing him as a great father. Typically you don't call someone both stupid and immature, yet a great father. 

    And I have a small glass of wine most nights. I don't feel that I'm causing any harm to my health. 
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  • SpeshulSpeshul member
    orlaithsheanon16 said:
    Ok ill go! I think people who smoke weed/ do any drugs as adults are stupid and immature! Particularly those with children.
    I disagree. If pot were legal, I think it would be a better alternative to alcohol or even certain medications (Xanax, etcetera). No chemicals, no addiction...but of course should be used in moderation & responsibly. I guess my UO is pot should be legal. Edit: words are hard
    If it was safe and non-addictive then it would be legal IMO. It may not be as addictive as other substances but I do believe it is still addictive. I also don't think we should be finding substitutes for alcohol and pain medication addiction, we should just he trying to solve those issues.
    I don't think pot is "physically" addicting like meth or heroine. It can be more "mentally" addicting. Alcohol can be addictive to some people. It's legal. There are lots of things that are addicting including food, gambling and sex. We can't ban them because some people have issues. Addiction is not "one size fits all".


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  • SpeshulSpeshul member
    CourtJack said:
    orlaithsheanon16 said:
    Ok ill go! I think people who smoke weed/ do any drugs as adults are stupid and immature! Particularly those with children.
    I've already said this on a pot debate, but my husband smokes pot. He has a joint most nights. That doesn't make him stupid and immature, unless you think it's stupid and immature to have a glass of wine each night. He's a responsible person and a wonderful father. His smoking pot doesn't change that in the least. You aren't automatically an idiot just b/c you use marijuana. Maybe that's my UO. There are many intelligent, successful and responsible people who smoke pot. 
    I would find a joint much more potent than one glass of wine. I have found though, that it affects people differently. Years ago, I lived with a bipolar girl from spain...she smoked everyday instead of taking meds. It truly worked much better than the meds. She was "normal" and grounded when she smoked. It didn't make her feel lethargic and apathetic like the medicine did.


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  • Leosmom13Leosmom13 member
    I think using drugs is just riskier behaviour and I guess since having LO I would be nervous even having more than a small glass of wine in case something happened to LO and I had to bring him to the hospital or something. What kind of parent would i be if I turned up smashed or high? I'm sure child services would he called.
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  • MagPie 1986MagPie 1986 member
    BlondieBia21 said:
    @courtjack, The difference between me having a glass of wine or smoking a joint is that one is legal, and one is not. I do agree in a way that someone smoking a joint doesn't make them automatically stupid/irresponsible, but in a way- it is because it's illegal and he could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor or felony, or have jail time because he's choosing something that's illegal. That is the irresponsible part to me.
    I agree with this.  If it was legal, I wouldn't think twice about someone that smoked recreationally.  I don't think it makes him irresponsible, just not well thought out but I always think of "worse case scenario."

    And to the PP who said that a glass of wine is harmful to your health....ummm, no.  Studies have linked responsible/ moderate red wine use to improved cardiovascular health.
     
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  • Leosmom13Leosmom13 member
    MagPie 1986 said:


    BlondieBia21 said:

    @courtjack,
    The difference between me having a glass of wine or smoking a joint is that one is legal, and one is not. I do agree in a way that someone smoking a joint doesn't make them automatically stupid/irresponsible, but in a way- it is because it's illegal and he could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor or felony, or have jail time because he's choosing something that's illegal. That is the irresponsible part to me.

    I agree with this.  If it was legal, I wouldn't think twice about someone that smoked recreationally.  I don't think it makes him irresponsible, just not well thought out but I always think of "worse case scenario."

    And to the PP who said that a glass of wine is harmful to your health....ummm, no.  Studies have linked responsible/ moderate red wine use to improved cardiovascular health.

    Just to clarify I never said a glass of wine was unhealthy i said that a glass every single night is probably not that healthy for you. I mean in terms of long term cirrhosis of the liver, addiction, and just for you general mental health and well being as alcohol is a depressant.
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  • MagPie 1986MagPie 1986 member
    My UO for today (this will be a post and run but hopefully it will get a good debate going):

    Has anyone kept up with the Jahi McMath case?  Its easily google-able so I won't get into specifics but, I don't think the parents should have been allowed to take her body from the first hospital.  She was legally declared dead and I think it's time for them to take her off life-support.  I cannot imagine how excruciating their pain must be but, they are confusing brain death with permanent vegetative state.  There's not going to be a recovery and, meanwhile, her body just continues to deteriorate in front of their eyes. 

    And, likewise, as for the doctors that agreed to place a g-tube and trach on a dead person, they need to be investigated because they are just taking advantage of the situation. 
     
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  • TrueBeliever925TrueBeliever925 member
    @CosmicLove. 

    I'm with you. My dad smoked pot and drank (apparently among others things I hear about now). I called him a functioning alcoholic. He had three beers after work when he got home (never drunk except at functions) and would go to sleep. My mom, however, was a full fledged alcoholic. WAYYYY more affected by my alcoholic mother than my father smoking pot and having a couple of beers.



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  • CourtJackCourtJack member
    orlaithsheanon16 said:
    BlondieBia21 said:
    @courtjack, The difference between me having a glass of wine or smoking a joint is that one is legal, and one is not. I do agree in a way that someone smoking a joint doesn't make them automatically stupid/irresponsible, but in a way- it is because it's illegal and he could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor or felony, or have jail time because he's choosing something that's illegal. That is the irresponsible part to me.
    Valid argument. I guess I just consider the risk of that as happening very very unlikely and wouldn't go as far to call him irresponsible.
    Genuine question though @CourtJack no snark intended. Do you not think that you dh's casual smoke in the evening could turn into an addiction? I mean its definetly true to say we can become addicted to anything coffee, chocolate etc but there are adverse effects to pot that I guess I just wouldn't be happy to have around my children.
    Not in the sense that I think you have in mind. He's smoked pot for a long time - so does that already make it an addiction? To some people, I'm sure it does. But I don't think so. I've been drinking booze since I was 19 - that doesn't mean I have an addiction, nor does it mean that I will down the road. I don't smoke pot, b/c I just don't like how it makes me feel. Adam (DH) doesn't really drink b/c he doesn't like how it makes him feel. So, in conclusion - no, it's not something I worry about. 
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