UO Thursday

Soleil3

LJUTCMommy said:

Ok, this is a real UO IRL, but I'm not sure how the bumpies feel. 

I think the whole controversy surrounding ScarJo's SodaStream ad has nothing to do with her saying it's better than "Coke or Pepsi" at the end.

I believe the real controversy is that Soda Stream has their factories in the West Bank. I don't believe there should be Israeli Commercial property on the West Bank. Having commercial property in an occupied territory is a war crime.

I don't think they wanted Superbowl watchers to learn about these things, much less think about these things--and that is why the ad got "banned". 

This article and many others seem to agree with you https://www.jpost.com/International/Scarlett-Johansson-steps-down-as-Oxfam-ambassador-amid-SodaStream-controversy-339837

WildRumpus

I think you should have to retake the driving test every few years, not just when you reach a certain age.

I think there should be required parenting courses before parents are allowed to leave the hospital..really before they get pregnant, but that's not realistic

I think washers/dryers should be considered a requirement in apartments/rentals. $3 a load is killing me.

LJUTCMommy

Soleil3 said:

LJUTCMommy said:

Ok, this is a real UO IRL, but I'm not sure how the bumpies feel. 

I think the whole controversy surrounding ScarJo's SodaStream ad has nothing to do with her saying it's better than "Coke or Pepsi" at the end.

I believe the real controversy is that Soda Stream has their factories in the West Bank. I don't believe there should be Israeli Commercial property on the West Bank. Having commercial property in an occupied territory is a war crime.

I don't think they wanted Superbowl watchers to learn about these things, much less think about these things--and that is why the ad got "banned". 

This article and many others seem to agree with you https://www.jpost.com/International/Scarlett-Johansson-steps-down-as-Oxfam-ambassador-amid-SodaStream-controversy-339837

That shows her true colors. She was an Oxfam Ambassador for 8+ years. I guess the Soda Stream money was a lot sweeter than rewards of human rights activism. 

rfrazier611

BlondieBia21 said:

rfrazier611 said:

Know what's also not legal in many states?  Gay marriage.

Sooo what are you getting at with that statement?

Isn't it obvious?  Governments have a long history of infringing upon the rights of individuals to live and do as they choose, so long as their actions do not infringe upon another's right to live and do as THEY choose.  To make it easier: Government makes lots of laws about things that aren't any of its damn business.

So, to make a judgement about the rightness/wrongness, responsibility/irresponsibility, etc. of an action based on its legality is silly, and shows a need for a longer, more critical thought process.

CaliforniaDream87

petey1106 said:

@californiadream87 what do you mean by "banging" a particular religion? 

There are hundreds of different religions/denominations. To me, religion is man made and causes people to lose focus on what really matters. Seems like some religions are more concerned with proving another religion wrong and disproving their validity instead of actually doing what Jesus did.

*Off my religious soap box*

Revez

petey1106 said:

I agree with @VG101808, "hating" religion is extreme. So @revez do you not have any sort of religious beliefs? I ask this honestly curious, not to sound like a bitch.

As for me,

Religious? No. Spiritual? Yes. I'm all for believing in a higher power, but not letting it dictate how you live your life.

Like @TrueBeliever925 I had religion stuffed down my throat growing up (not necessarily the same way).

If you didn't eat, breath and live Christianity you were beat in my house (spare the rod, spoil the child). No tv, no radio, no nonchristian friends(pre-approved by my parents) or activities. Until I was 16 or so I was literally dragged kicking and screaming to church. My parents had prayer groups come in to pray at my bedroom door that I would repent and devote my life to god. My dad would put his hands on me and start praying if I left my room. To this day he still sends me letters/texts/emails telling me my whole family will burn for all eternity in hell if I don't change my ways.

As a teen I became depressed and eventually suicidal. I can't even count how many times I was told those thoughts were "from the devil". I was denied "real" help as it was my own fault for being a sinner. People prayed for me, that's all I got.

My childhood is an extreme example of how fucked up religion can make you. I realize that not all religious people are like that (not by a long shot). But my past has made me very, very bitter towards the church.

I do not hate people who are religious. I'm all for people believing what they want to believe, but don't push it on other people.

I know saying I hate religion may seem extreme, maybe if I said "I hate what religion can do to people" would be more accurate. In any case, I don't think the word "hate" is extreme in my situation.

Sorry for the novel.

thoughtfulmommy

petey1106 said:

I agree with @VG101808, "hating" religion is extreme. So @revez do you not have any sort of religious beliefs? I ask this honestly curious, not to sound like a bitch.

As for me,

I am agnostic but I can see where @revez is coming from. From what I remember, her parents were extremely religious and are/ were very critical towards her during her upbringing. I think being religious is great, but when the church controls all of your decisions, it can be negative.

TrueBeliever925

CaliforniaDream87 said:

There are hundreds of different religions/denominations. To me, religion is man made and causes people to lose focus on what really matters. Seems like some religions are more concerned with proving another religion wrong and disproving their validity instead of actually doing what Jesus did. *Off my religious soap box*

You said it perfectly. 

Revez

Natalie2167 said:

petey1106 said:

I agree with @VG101808, "hating" religion is extreme. So @revez do you not have any sort of religious beliefs? I ask this honestly curious, not to sound like a bitch.

As for me,

I am agnostic but I can see where @revez is coming from. From what I remember, her parents were extremely religious and are/ were very critical towards her during her upbringing. I think being religious is great, but when the church controls all of your decisions, it can be negative.

Good memory.

Soleil3

rfrazier611 said:

BlondieBia21 said:

rfrazier611 said:

Know what's also not legal in many states?  Gay marriage.

Sooo what are you getting at with that statement?

Isn't it obvious?  Governments have a long history of infringing upon the rights of individuals to live and do as they choose, so long as their actions do not infringe upon another's right to live and do as THEY choose.  To make it easier: Government makes lots of laws about things that aren't any of its damn business.

So, to make a judgement about the rightness/wrongness, responsibility/irresponsibility, etc. of an action based on its legality is silly, and shows a need for a longer, more critical thought process.

Tell it to the judge who will remove your child from your home over illegal activities. 

I mean, whatever lets you sleep at night right? 

MommyBolty

I'm just going to leave this here.

rfrazier611

Soleil3 said:

rfrazier611 said:

BlondieBia21 said:

rfrazier611 said:

Know what's also not legal in many states?  Gay marriage.

Sooo what are you getting at with that statement?

Isn't it obvious?  Governments have a long history of infringing upon the rights of individuals to live and do as they choose, so long as their actions do not infringe upon another's right to live and do as THEY choose.  To make it easier: Government makes lots of laws about things that aren't any of its damn business.

So, to make a judgement about the rightness/wrongness, responsibility/irresponsibility, etc. of an action based on its legality is silly, and shows a need for a longer, more critical thought process.

Tell it to the judge who will remove your child from your home over illegal activities. 

I mean, whatever lets you sleep at night right? 

^^^  See?  Another "It's illegal so..." statement.  It never gets any further than that.  I don't care if you think it's right or wrong, that's up to you, but tell me how the government has a right to legislate on these things.

It's not about justifying or making excuses, it's about principle.  I firmly believe that a government has zero right to tell anyone what they can or cannot do, provided it doesn't infringe upon the rights of anyone else.  Period.  I don't think a government has any business telling someone what to do with their body when it comes to abortion and in the same vein, it doesn't have any business telling someone what to do with their body when it comes to the drugs they want to put in it.

If I were to pick and choose, saying "I don't like that, so I'm ok with that being illegal, but I like THAT, so THAT should be legal" I would be displaying very childish, one-dimensional thinking.

WheeLinTheSky3

orlaithsheanon16 said:

orlaithsheanon16 said:

Ok ill go! I think people who smoke weed/ do any drugs as adults are stupid and immature! Particularly those with children.

I've already said this on a pot debate, but my husband smokes pot. He has a joint most nights. That doesn't make him stupid and immature, unless you think it's stupid and immature to have a glass of wine each night. He's a responsible person and a wonderful father. His smoking pot doesn't change that in the least. You aren't automatically an idiot just b/c you use marijuana. Maybe that's my UO. There are many intelligent, successful and responsible people who smoke pot. 

I didn't make any comment on how good your dh is as a father. However I stand by my opinion I think its stupid as an adult to be using any drugs. I do think its fine to have a glass of wine the odd night but if you have to have a glass of wine every night I would probably be inclined to say that that's not healthy either.

     wait..what?

 

 

TrueBeliever925

Here's another O that I KNOW is U. 

I don't like coffee. 

I want to like it. I just can't. Teach me your ways!

Texasmomma13

TrueBeliever925 said:

Here's another O that I KNOW is U. 

I don't like coffee. 

I want to like it. I just can't. Teach me your ways!

two words.
Flavored creamer.

yummmm!

Speshul

rfrazier611 said:

Soleil3 said:

rfrazier611 said:

BlondieBia21 said:

rfrazier611 said:

Know what's also not legal in many states?  Gay marriage.

Sooo what are you getting at with that statement?

Isn't it obvious?  Governments have a long history of infringing upon the rights of individuals to live and do as they choose, so long as their actions do not infringe upon another's right to live and do as THEY choose.  To make it easier: Government makes lots of laws about things that aren't any of its damn business.

So, to make a judgement about the rightness/wrongness, responsibility/irresponsibility, etc. of an action based on its legality is silly, and shows a need for a longer, more critical thought process.

Tell it to the judge who will remove your child from your home over illegal activities. 

I mean, whatever lets you sleep at night right? 

^^^  See?  Another "It's illegal so..." statement.  It never gets any further than that.  I don't care if you think it's right or wrong, that's up to you, but tell me how the government has a right to legislate on these things.

It's not about justifying or making excuses, it's about principle.  I firmly believe that a government has zero right to tell anyone what they can or cannot do, provided it doesn't infringe upon the rights of anyone else.  Period.  I don't think a government has any business telling someone what to do with their body when it comes to abortion and in the same vein, it doesn't have any business telling someone what to do with their body when it comes to the drugs they want to put in it.

If I were to pick and choose, saying "I don't like that, so I'm ok with that being illegal, but I like THAT, so THAT should be legal" I would be displaying very childish, one-dimensional thinking.

The argument isn't that it should or shouldn't be illegal. A lot of things should be legal.

The argument is while it is illegal, you are putting your job and children at risk by doing it. You can have legal repercussions, you can lose your job, or your kids can suffer for it. Going to jail or getting your kids taken away for doing drugs isn't going to make a statement to the government. Simply being against a law does not prevent its consequences if you break it.

Speshul

TrueBeliever925 said:

Here's another O that I KNOW is U. 

I don't like coffee. 

I want to like it. I just can't. Teach me your ways!

Add enough flavors, sugar, and frothy foam to where it does not taste like coffee anymore.

V&G101808

rfrazier611 said:

Soleil3 said:

rfrazier611 said:

BlondieBia21 said:

rfrazier611 said:

Know what's also not legal in many states?  Gay marriage.

Sooo what are you getting at with that statement?

Isn't it obvious?  Governments have a long history of infringing upon the rights of individuals to live and do as they choose, so long as their actions do not infringe upon another's right to live and do as THEY choose.  To make it easier: Government makes lots of laws about things that aren't any of its damn business.

So, to make a judgement about the rightness/wrongness, responsibility/irresponsibility, etc. of an action based on its legality is silly, and shows a need for a longer, more critical thought process.

Tell it to the judge who will remove your child from your home over illegal activities. 

I mean, whatever lets you sleep at night right? 

^^^  See?  Another "It's illegal so..." statement.  It never gets any further than that.  I don't care if you think it's right or wrong, that's up to you, but tell me how the government has a right to legislate on these things.

It's not about justifying or making excuses, it's about principle.  I firmly believe that a government has zero right to tell anyone what they can or cannot do, provided it doesn't infringe upon the rights of anyone else.  Period.  I don't think a government has any business telling someone what to do with their body when it comes to abortion and in the same vein, it doesn't have any business telling someone what to do with their body when it comes to the drugs they want to put in it.

If I were to pick and choose, saying "I don't like that, so I'm ok with that being illegal, but I like THAT, so THAT should be legal" I would be displaying very childish, one-dimensional thinking.

It doesn't get further than that because THATS THE LAW.  And because I don't plan on ever running for any type of office there really isn't much I can do or want to do about it. 

If the medical marijuana petition makes it to the ballot I'll vote "no".  There, I did my part.  And that's how you can do your part to.  So don't complain about the government unless you're going to run for office and try to actually change it. 

You appear to be VERY anti government - so uh... maybe you should just leave the great U S of A?

rfrazier611

Speshul said:

rfrazier611 said:

Soleil3 said:

rfrazier611 said:

BlondieBia21 said:

rfrazier611 said:

Know what's also not legal in many states?  Gay marriage.

Sooo what are you getting at with that statement?

Isn't it obvious?  Governments have a long history of infringing upon the rights of individuals to live and do as they choose, so long as their actions do not infringe upon another's right to live and do as THEY choose.  To make it easier: Government makes lots of laws about things that aren't any of its damn business.

So, to make a judgement about the rightness/wrongness, responsibility/irresponsibility, etc. of an action based on its legality is silly, and shows a need for a longer, more critical thought process.

Tell it to the judge who will remove your child from your home over illegal activities. 

I mean, whatever lets you sleep at night right? 

^^^  See?  Another "It's illegal so..." statement.  It never gets any further than that.  I don't care if you think it's right or wrong, that's up to you, but tell me how the government has a right to legislate on these things.

It's not about justifying or making excuses, it's about principle.  I firmly believe that a government has zero right to tell anyone what they can or cannot do, provided it doesn't infringe upon the rights of anyone else.  Period.  I don't think a government has any business telling someone what to do with their body when it comes to abortion and in the same vein, it doesn't have any business telling someone what to do with their body when it comes to the drugs they want to put in it.

If I were to pick and choose, saying "I don't like that, so I'm ok with that being illegal, but I like THAT, so THAT should be legal" I would be displaying very childish, one-dimensional thinking.

The argument isn't that it should or shouldn't be illegal. A lot of things should be legal.

The argument is while it is illegal, you are putting your job and children at risk by doing it. You can have legal repercussions, you can lose your job, or your kids can suffer for it. Going to jail or getting your kids taken away for doing drugs isn't going to make a statement to the government. Simply being against a law does not prevent its consequences if you break it.

Of course it doesn't.  Did someone say that it did?

JaymeMac

CourtJack said:

orlaithsheanon16 said:

Ok ill go! I think people who smoke weed/ do any drugs as adults are stupid and immature! Particularly those with children.

I've already said this on a pot debate, but my husband smokes pot. He has a joint most nights. That doesn't make him stupid and immature, unless you think it's stupid and immature to have a glass of wine each night. He's a responsible person and a wonderful father. His smoking pot doesn't change that in the least. You aren't automatically an idiot just b/c you use marijuana. Maybe that's my UO. There are many intelligent, successful and responsible people who smoke pot. 

I agree...my dh smokes pot...my father will smoke now and then...my boss smokes...my bosses boss smokes. Yes smoking can help calm you down after a long stressful day. And yes I agree I prefer that to popping a prescription pill that is full of chemicals...what you do in the privacy of your own home is no ones business. Legal or not. One day weed will be legal everywhere and this point will be moot. Irresponsible to smoke weed? Hell no not in a safe environment with adults. But to each their own.

rfrazier611

V&G101808 said:

rfrazier611 said:

Soleil3 said:

rfrazier611 said:

BlondieBia21 said:

rfrazier611 said:

Know what's also not legal in many states?  Gay marriage.

Sooo what are you getting at with that statement?

Isn't it obvious?  Governments have a long history of infringing upon the rights of individuals to live and do as they choose, so long as their actions do not infringe upon another's right to live and do as THEY choose.  To make it easier: Government makes lots of laws about things that aren't any of its damn business.

So, to make a judgement about the rightness/wrongness, responsibility/irresponsibility, etc. of an action based on its legality is silly, and shows a need for a longer, more critical thought process.

Tell it to the judge who will remove your child from your home over illegal activities. 

I mean, whatever lets you sleep at night right? 

^^^  See?  Another "It's illegal so..." statement.  It never gets any further than that.  I don't care if you think it's right or wrong, that's up to you, but tell me how the government has a right to legislate on these things.

It's not about justifying or making excuses, it's about principle.  I firmly believe that a government has zero right to tell anyone what they can or cannot do, provided it doesn't infringe upon the rights of anyone else.  Period.  I don't think a government has any business telling someone what to do with their body when it comes to abortion and in the same vein, it doesn't have any business telling someone what to do with their body when it comes to the drugs they want to put in it.

If I were to pick and choose, saying "I don't like that, so I'm ok with that being illegal, but I like THAT, so THAT should be legal" I would be displaying very childish, one-dimensional thinking.

It doesn't get further than that because THATS THE LAW.  And because I don't plan on ever running for any type of office there really isn't much I can do or want to do about it. 

If the medical marijuana petition makes it to the ballot I'll vote "no".  There, I did my part.  And that's how you can do your part to.  So don't complain about the government unless you're going to run for office and try to actually change it. 

You appear to be VERY anti government - so uh... maybe you should just leave the great U S of A?

anarchist -  a person who seeks to overturn by violence all constituted forms and institutions of society and government, with no purpose of establishing any other system of order in the place of that destroyed
libertarian - a person who advocates liberty, especially with regard to thought or conduct

Go right ahead and choose which one sounds more like me.  I can't think of a more American idea than being free to do as you please so long as you don't violate others' rights.

TrueBeliever925

@lisarene77 I've tried that. It's still too strong. & @speshul I make hot chocolate and put instant coffee in it, but I can't seem to make it any stronger (more than a weak teaspoon). I really do want to like coffee. I'd rather drink coffee for caffeine than soda.

Leosmom13

JaymeMac said:

CourtJack said:

orlaithsheanon16 said:

Ok ill go! I think people who smoke weed/ do any drugs as adults are stupid and immature! Particularly those with children.

I've already said this on a pot debate, but my husband smokes pot. He has a joint most nights. That doesn't make him stupid and immature, unless you think it's stupid and immature to have a glass of wine each night. He's a responsible person and a wonderful father. His smoking pot doesn't change that in the least. You aren't automatically an idiot just b/c you use marijuana. Maybe that's my UO. There are many intelligent, successful and responsible people who smoke pot. 

I agree...my dh smokes pot...my father will smoke now and then...my boss smokes...my bosses boss smokes. Yes smoking can help calm you down after a long stressful day. And yes I agree I prefer that to popping a prescription pill that is full of chemicals...what you do in the privacy of your own home is no ones business. Legal or not. One day weed will be legal everywhere and this point will be moot. Irresponsible to smoke weed? Hell no not in a safe environment with adults. But to each their own.

Pot is a chemical too. It is also a crutch if you use it to calm down. There are other ways to relax and unwind. Excersize, yoga a bath. Why do we have to turn to any substance to relax?

Speshul

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Tell it to the judge who will remove your child from your home over illegal activities. 

I mean, whatever lets you sleep at night right?

^^^  See?  Another "It's illegal so..." statement.  It never gets any further than that.  I don't care if you think it's right or wrong, that's up to you, but tell me how the government has a right to legislate on these things.



snip.
Simply being against a law does not prevent its consequences if you break it.

Of course it doesn't.  Did someone say that it did?

It was a response in relation to your comment about the others' "it's illegal" argument. You replied (paraphrasing) that it's not a valid argument because the government infringes on peoples' rights.
The "it's illegal" argument has nothing to do with the validity of the law. It has to do with the consequences for the rest of the family of breaking said law.

The reason some people are judging the pot smoker, is that it puts the family at the risks I mentioned previously because it is illegal. If it were legal the smoker would not be putting the
family at risk.

I'm all for legalizing it. If anything at least medicinally. I think it would do wonders for anxiety.

Speshul

TrueBeliever925  Have you tried different blends?  I only really like breakfast blend and a few others. When I first started coffee, I could only drink starbucks lattes or macchiatos. I love coffee with LOTS of foam. I'm more of a tea person anyway. Irish Breakfast tea all the way!!

Soleil3

rfrazier611 said:

Soleil3 said:

rfrazier611 said:

BlondieBia21 said:

rfrazier611 said:

Know what's also not legal in many states?  Gay marriage.

Sooo what are you getting at with that statement?

Isn't it obvious?  Governments have a long history of infringing upon the rights of individuals to live and do as they choose, so long as their actions do not infringe upon another's right to live and do as THEY choose.  To make it easier: Government makes lots of laws about things that aren't any of its damn business.

So, to make a judgement about the rightness/wrongness, responsibility/irresponsibility, etc. of an action based on its legality is silly, and shows a need for a longer, more critical thought process.

Tell it to the judge who will remove your child from your home over illegal activities. 

I mean, whatever lets you sleep at night right? 

^^^  See?  Another "It's illegal so..." statement.  It never gets any further than that.  I don't care if you think it's right or wrong, that's up to you, but tell me how the government has a right to legislate on these things.

It's not about justifying or making excuses, it's about principle.  I firmly believe that a government has zero right to tell anyone what they can or cannot do, provided it doesn't infringe upon the rights of anyone else.  Period.  I don't think a government has any business telling someone what to do with their body when it comes to abortion and in the same vein, it doesn't have any business telling someone what to do with their body when it comes to the drugs they want to put in it.

If I were to pick and choose, saying "I don't like that, so I'm ok with that being illegal, but I like THAT, so THAT should be legal" I would be displaying very childish, one-dimensional thinking.

The government has the right to mandate the USA because it is the USA government, elected by the USA. If you don't like it, feel free to leave. Period. Or use your vote as your voice. 

And if you think making things illegal is as simple as someone saying, I don't like that, I'd argue that is very childish, one dimensional thinking. 

magdalina.h

TrueBeliever925 said:

Here's another O that I KNOW is U. 

I don't like coffee. 

I want to like it. I just can't. Teach me your ways!

I have no idea what coffee tastes like because of the amount of flavored creamer that is in there.

Speshul

TrueBeliever925

Speshul said:

TrueBeliever925  Have you tried different blends?  I only really like breakfast blend and a few others. When I first started coffee, I could only drink starbucks lattes or macchiatos. I love coffee with LOTS of foam. I'm more of a tea person anyway. Irish Breakfast tea all the way!!

I haven't. I love the smell of hazelnut. I should really try that. I'm always envious when you guys talk about how much you love coffee and how many cups you've had for the day. I'm always sitting here with a soda, which I really want to kick. I figure it's probably not the best of trade offs if I drink coffee with tons of stuff in it, but ohhh well.

V&G101808

etc35173 said:

V&G101808 said:

rfrazier611 said:

Soleil3 said:

rfrazier611 said:

BlondieBia21 said:

rfrazier611 said:

Know what's also not legal in many states?  Gay marriage.

Sooo what are you getting at with that statement?

Isn't it obvious?  Governments have a long history of infringing upon the rights of individuals to live and do as they choose, so long as their actions do not infringe upon another's right to live and do as THEY choose.  To make it easier: Government makes lots of laws about things that aren't any of its damn business.

So, to make a judgement about the rightness/wrongness, responsibility/irresponsibility, etc. of an action based on its legality is silly, and shows a need for a longer, more critical thought process.

Tell it to the judge who will remove your child from your home over illegal activities. 

I mean, whatever lets you sleep at night right? 

^^^  See?  Another "It's illegal so..." statement.  It never gets any further than that.  I don't care if you think it's right or wrong, that's up to you, but tell me how the government has a right to legislate on these things.

It's not about justifying or making excuses, it's about principle.  I firmly believe that a government has zero right to tell anyone what they can or cannot do, provided it doesn't infringe upon the rights of anyone else.  Period.  I don't think a government has any business telling someone what to do with their body when it comes to abortion and in the same vein, it doesn't have any business telling someone what to do with their body when it comes to the drugs they want to put in it.

If I were to pick and choose, saying "I don't like that, so I'm ok with that being illegal, but I like THAT, so THAT should be legal" I would be displaying very childish, one-dimensional thinking.

It doesn't get further than that because THATS THE LAW.  And because I don't plan on ever running for any type of office there really isn't much I can do or want to do about it. 

If the medical marijuana petition makes it to the ballot I'll vote "no".  There, I did my part.  And that's how you can do your part to.  So don't complain about the government unless you're going to run for office and try to actually change it. 

You appear to be VERY anti government - so uh... maybe you should just leave the great U S of A?

I think being able to complain/criticize the government is the best part of living in the USA


And I have zero problems with people complaining... IF you do your part. I don't think you should complain if you havent used your right as an American to vote.

. Until you use your right to vote, then don't complain to me.

MynaBird

#marijuanadebate

Coconuthead

@V&G how can you say whether or not any pp's have or have not voted? Maybe I missed something but I don't remember @rfrazier611 or anyone else saying that she never voted or didn't believe in voting.

People who vote may not always be in the majority, doesn't mean they have to be happy about the outcome or never voice an opinion contrary to to the majority outcome of a vote. Nor does it mean they will never vote again on an issue.

Also having an opinion that is contrary to a current law in no way makes anyone less of an American. Not sure where that statement even came from. Exercising her right to express an opinion contrary to current law is about as "American" as it gets.

I guess my UO is I hate the "I am more American than you"....*shoves flag down throat* sentiment.

Soleil3

I am more american than you. *pulls flag from throat and hangs it properly on flag post*

CourtJack

On the religion debate. I agree with @CaliforniaDream87

I don't believe in God or Jesus. But, If you live the best life you can, and are kind to people, and if that to you means being Christian and believing in Jesus, then fine - so long as that means that you're trying to be the best person you can be. 

However, Religion, as an institution, is corrupt and very rarely is it actually about being who this "God" wants you to be. It's at the root of most major atrocities on the planet. 

Revez

KatieS7 said:

@revez first off, I'm sorry that you had and still have to deal with that. Nobody deserves that. I'll start by saying, I'm a Christian. I believe Jesus lived and then died for my sins. Your experience bothers me because what happened was not because of God, it was because of your parents. Their actions and words were not that of Christ. Christ is love, being a Christian (to me) is about love. I hurt when I hear God getting the bad rap for what people did. My heart breaks for you, you deserve love whether you choose God or not. I know I didn't word this post eloquently, times like these I wish I could write like @speedymarie she conveys her thoughts much better then me.

Thank-you
I have no beef with God and I don't blame it on God for what I went through. I don't believe God and religion are the same (again, spiritual not religious). It's ok though, I was telling @TrueBeliever925, I think those experiences will help me be a better mom and if LO wants to be religious when she's older, she can. I know what it's like to be a "disappointment" for not having the same belief system as your parents.

Speshul

You know what's illegal in Oklahoma:
A. It is unlawful for any person to:

1. Promote, engage in, or be employed at a bear wrestling exhibition or horse tripping event;

V&G101808

Coconuthead said:

@V&G how can you say whether or not any pp's have or have not voted? Maybe I missed something but I don't remember @rfrazier611 or anyone else saying that she never voted or didn't believe in voting. People who vote may not always be in the majority, doesn't mean they have to be happy about the outcome or never voice an opinion contrary to to the majority outcome of a vote. Nor does it mean they will never vote again on an issue. Also having an opinion that is contrary to a current law in no way makes anyone less of an American. Not sure where that statement even came from. Exercising her right to express an opinion contrary to current law is about as "American" as it gets. I guess my UO is I hate the "I am more American than you"....*shoves flag down throat* sentiment.

Did I say ever they DIDN'T vote? Nope, I didn't say that nor did I imply that.  I was simply stating MY opinion that if you don't vote I don't feel you have the right to complain. 

Perhaps you should re-read what I wrote because I also did not imply that I was Mrs. Patriotism.  For Christsake I posted the nyan-cat as a gif!

CaliforniaDream87

HauntedRadio said:

Lol at the marriage equality ad at the bottom of my screen.

LOL mine is an "annual Catholic appeal" ad.

BlondieBia21

Speshul said:

You know what's illegal in Oklahoma:
A. It is unlawful for any person to:

1. Promote, engage in, or be employed at a bear wrestling exhibition or horse tripping event;

Did you also know that it's illegal in Oklahoma to take a bite from another person's hamburger?

magdalina.h

BlondieBia21 said:

You know what's illegal in Oklahoma:
A. It is unlawful for any person to:

1. Promote, engage in, or be employed at a bear wrestling exhibition or horse tripping event;

Did you also know that it's illegal in Oklahoma to take a bite from another person's hamburger?

I need that to be illegal in Indiana ::glares at the toddler trying to steal my "cheese burbur"::