@sugarland726 do you think you'll ever come join us in facebook land? 8->
@PreDempsey, I was just talking about this this morning. The FB BMB group from DD is about 4 years old now and has none of the drama that you ever hear about with FB groups. A girl joined the January 2013 FB group and crazy shit went down this week apparently. I said I was toying with the idea of hopping over to our group because there is also no drama, but I'm scared that won't be the case.
DH is OOT next week, so maybe I'll come over then when I have a chance to learn people's names and match up to screen names.
Re: makeup. I'm a makeup junkie. I love sephora, birch box, etc and I don't go to to work or out without it. But I'm astounded at the number of little girls I see wearing it. My mom always said no when I asked and that it was for when I was older. My little next door neighbor who is 6 will stop in wearing blush and lipstick. It's very pageant-y to me. I started sneaking lipstick at the bus stop when I was 12 or 13 lol. DD got some nail polish in her stocking (this Christmas, before she was born, from MIL) and I was like oh thanks. And thought to myself this will be dried out long before she ever uses it. I have no intentions of painting my baby's toes.
My UO is that I refused a cervical check today (38 weeks). I don't care if/how dilated I am. We all know it makes no difference. And I would prefer to keep all unnecessary hand action out thank-you-very-much.
@tootsscott - My UO is that I think foundation is the devil - I think it ages women. I'm a big believer into the moisturizer+powder combo.
@ccip82- Yes! There will be no pretend or real make-up until teen years in this house (I can make an exception for dance recitals). I also strongly dislike when little girls have nail-polish.
@RedSaffron - The nose-frida is all kinds of amazing!!! Get it 100%.
I think longingly for the days of sleeping when I felt like it. Makes me feel bad that I miss my pre-baby life so much. I get so anxious at night because of getting up so much with little guy. From what I understand many moms feel this way, so I don't understand why people don't share that with new moms.
I know exactly how you feel. I hate hate hate waking up in the middle of the night. I love my kids, but sometimes when they cry at 4am, I wish I lived alone again. Hugs. It gets better.
I think longingly for the days of sleeping when I felt like it. Makes me feel bad that I miss my pre-baby life so much. I get so anxious at night because of getting up so much with little guy. From what I understand many moms feel this way, so I don't understand why people don't share that with new moms.
You're not alone! With DD I would cry every night because it would be so lonely. This time with DS hasn't been quite as bad, but he's still new
With DD, I had some post partum depression too. I didn't talk to anyone about it, but I wish I had! Just keep that in mind if you find the anxiety unbearable or taking over most of your day also!
In regards to the makeup I almost always wear foundation or blush of some sort when I leave the house, but it is another one of those things to each their own. I would definitely not want my DD growing up feeling like it is necessary.
Piggybacking on the makeup, I hate it when I see young girls out wearing even minimal blush or tinted lip gloss under the age of 10. I do not plan on buying my DD pretend makeup either...Especially a pretend makeup mirror vanity or whatever those things are.
@ccip82 I always swore that DD would have nothing to encourage society's views of women, i.e. fake makeup, a beauty salon chair, vanity mirror, etc. Don't you know that little turkey has outsmarted me? She has "grown up" watching Mommy put on her makeup and now she is into it! If I put on chapstick she wants some "lipstick" too. When I do full face, she uses clean brushes to put on her full face too. While I have yet to buy her play makeup, until she's older, I have a feeling she will be fighting me for some before she's 10.
@sugarland726 do you think you'll ever come join us in facebook land? 8->
@PreDempsey, I was just talking about this this morning. The FB BMB group from DD is about 4 years old now and has none of the drama that you ever hear about with FB groups. A girl joined the January 2013 FB group and crazy shit went down this week apparently. I said I was toying with the idea of hopping over to our group because there is also no drama, but I'm scared that won't be the case.
DH is OOT next week, so maybe I'll come over then when I have a chance to learn people's names and match up to screen names.
No drama so far, just lots of squishy babies.
PCOS diagnosed secondary infertility
BFP #1 (letrozole 2.5mg + ovidrel) February 2016, MMC April 2016 @ 7 weeks
In regards to the makeup I almost always wear foundation or blush of some sort when I leave the house, but it is another one of those things to each their own. I would definitely not want my DD growing up feeling like it is necessary.
Piggybacking on the makeup, I hate it when I see young girls out wearing even minimal blush or tinted lip gloss under the age of 10. I do not plan on buying my DD pretend makeup either...Especially a pretend makeup mirror vanity or whatever those things are.
@ccip82 I always swore that DD would have nothing to encourage society's views of women, i.e. fake makeup, a beauty salon chair, vanity mirror, etc. Don't you know that little turkey has outsmarted me? She has "grown up" watching Mommy put on her makeup and now she is into it! If I put on chapstick she wants some "lipstick" too. When I do full face, she uses clean brushes to put on her full face too. While I have yet to buy her play makeup, until she's older, I have a feeling she will be fighting me for some before she's 10.
That is what I am afraid might happen to us. I do have a lot of makeup/lotions/ etc., DD has not shown too much interest yet..but I am waiting for it to happen and see if I cave. I may be eating my words
With regard to make up, I think it's a personal choice for each woman, even if one doesn't look great without make up. Who cares? I'm not the one sleeping with her and I'm far too busy with my own life to judge others for their appearance.
I'm all about UOs today. You know what grinds my gears TMI.. having the runs and nursing. I can't nurse in the bathroom so I have to just sit there and suffer while I wait for DD to finish.
ETA: oh yeah, she's cluster feeding like I mentioned in my first UO
@chuggingwater. Thanks for the concern! Doing a little better everyday. I've had problems dealing with what I find researching breastfeeding and it was seriously stressing me out. Also DD is one of those babies that will only sleep for 2 hours at a time and has days and nights mixed up. I decided to just do what was best for me and start pumping now and introduce bottles as needed vs the wait three weeks because I don't think I could handle it. DH is doing everything else (cooking cleaning, holding her when he can) so def have help just have a very particular baby right now who just wants momma most of the time. Today was actually one of the better days because she was awake for most of the day so hoping we're on our way to sleeping a longer time during the night.
I freakin' start the thread and then can't find a minute to get on here today. Thanks, co-workers. *Grumble, grumble*
Here's some UOs..
-If you're going to post your own damn "I'm in labor" thread, at least come back a few days later and update everyone and let them know you're okay. It seems super AWish to leave people hanging, especially when your profile shows you've been active since the last update. (Not that I'm stalking a specific thread or anything.. *whistles*)
-I love makeup, but if I had good enough skin to be that "I don't wear makeup, I sleep 8 hours a night, and drink 8 glasses of water a day" broad, I totally would. I'd tell EVERYONE. Makeup is great, but it's a pain in the ass sometimes. Some days, I just don't even want to deal with it - but I do because I feel naked without it.
-Before becoming a mom, I would have read about that Jahi McMath case and agreed with the hospital. Now, though, I have a lot of sympathy for her mother. I understand the logical side of the argument, but at the end of the day, if I were her, and it were my child, I would be holding onto any glimmer of hope, even if it was as impossible as it appears to be in their case. When I see people commenting on the story that the mom needs to let it go, that she's "just a body," it hurts my heart for that woman.
partial molar pregnancy : bfp 6.28.10, d/c 8.17.10, 7 rounds methotrexate, cleared 7.1.11 alexander patrick : bfp 1.16.12, born 9.20.12 @ 39w1d, 7 lbs./11 oz./22 in. scarlett irene elizabeth : bfp 5.24.13, born 2.3.14 @ 41w2d, 7 lbs./13 oz./19 in.
-If you're going to post your own damn "I'm in labor" thread, at least come back a few days later and update everyone and let them know you're okay. It seems super AWish to leave people hanging, especially when your profile shows you've been active since the last update. (Not that I'm stalking a specific thread or anything.. *whistles*)
Did you ever watch Up All Night with Christina Applegate and Will Arnett? They made a joke that she posted "going to the hospital!" on Facebook over a month ago and never wrote anything else and that people probably thought she died. It was pretty funny.
-If you're going to post your own damn "I'm in labor" thread, at least come back a few days later and update everyone and let them know you're okay. It seems super AWish to leave people hanging, especially when your profile shows you've been active since the last update. (Not that I'm stalking a specific thread or anything.. *whistles*)
Did you ever watch Up All Night with Christina Applegate and Will Arnett? They made a joke that she posted "going to the hospital!" on Facebook over a month ago and never wrote anything else and that people probably thought she died. It was pretty funny.
OMGGGGG, I forgot all about that show! Yes, I remember that! Bwahaha!
partial molar pregnancy : bfp 6.28.10, d/c 8.17.10, 7 rounds methotrexate, cleared 7.1.11 alexander patrick : bfp 1.16.12, born 9.20.12 @ 39w1d, 7 lbs./11 oz./22 in. scarlett irene elizabeth : bfp 5.24.13, born 2.3.14 @ 41w2d, 7 lbs./13 oz./19 in.
I'm so exhausted and I know breastmilk is best but I'm am seriously considering formula feeding to save my sanity.
This is why I went right to formula with my second. I was not willing to be so miserably exhausted again. Good luck. It's a difficult decision to come to.
How does switching to formula give you more sleep. I think rolling over and nursing baby is much more easy than getting up, going to the kitchen, making a bottle, than holding bottle until finished! Seriously! You signed up to be a parent when you had your baby. Why??? I just don't get it. You have a chance to give your child so much more. Why risk formula feeding when you don't have to? It's lazy!!
I'm so exhausted and I know breastmilk is best but I'm am seriously considering formula feeding to save my sanity.
This is why I went right to formula with my second. I was not willing to be so miserably exhausted again. Good luck. It's a difficult decision to come to.
How does switching to formula give you more sleep. I think rolling over and nursing baby is much more easy than getting up, going to the kitchen, making a bottle, than holding bottle until finished! Seriously! You signed up to be a parent when you had your baby. Why??? I just don't get it. You have a chance to give your child so much more. Why risk formula feeding when you don't have to? It's lazy!!
Who invited the self righteous breast feeder to the board? Your comments are way out of line. "You signed up to be a parent." Are you fucking kidding me? People who formula feed now aren't parents? You are off your fucking rocker. And to call formula feeding lazy? Take your bitchy, holier than thou attitude and get the fuck out.
I'm so exhausted and I know breastmilk is best but I'm am seriously considering formula feeding to save my sanity.
This is why I went right to formula with my second. I was not willing to be so miserably exhausted again. Good luck. It's a difficult decision to come to.
How does switching to formula give you more sleep. I think rolling over and nursing baby is much more easy than getting up, going to the kitchen, making a bottle, than holding bottle until finished! Seriously! You signed up to be a parent when you had your baby. Why??? I just don't get it. You have a chance to give your child so much more. Why risk formula feeding when you don't have to? It's lazy!!
Bitch please.
partial molar pregnancy : bfp 6.28.10, d/c 8.17.10, 7 rounds methotrexate, cleared 7.1.11 alexander patrick : bfp 1.16.12, born 9.20.12 @ 39w1d, 7 lbs./11 oz./22 in. scarlett irene elizabeth : bfp 5.24.13, born 2.3.14 @ 41w2d, 7 lbs./13 oz./19 in.
I'm so exhausted and I know breastmilk is best but I'm am seriously considering formula feeding to save my sanity.
This is why I went right to formula with my second. I was not willing to be so miserably exhausted again. Good luck. It's a difficult decision to come to.
How does switching to formula give you more sleep. I think rolling over and nursing baby is much more easy than getting up, going to the kitchen, making a bottle, than holding bottle until finished! Seriously! You signed up to be a parent when you had your baby. Why??? I just don't get it. You have a chance to give your child so much more. Why risk formula feeding when you don't have to? It's lazy!!
Please take your white horse and keep on riding. Far far away.
I'm so exhausted and I know breastmilk is best but I'm am seriously considering formula feeding to save my sanity.
This is why I went right to formula with my second. I was not willing to be so miserably exhausted again. Good luck. It's a difficult decision to come to.
How does switching to formula give you more sleep. I think rolling over and nursing baby is much more easy than getting up, going to the kitchen, making a bottle, than holding bottle until finished! Seriously! You signed up to be a parent when you had your baby. Why??? I just don't get it. You have a chance to give your child so much more. Why risk formula feeding when you don't have to? It's lazy!!
I must be a horrible parent because I couldn't handle it. I guess me switching to formula to prevent my son who lost too much weight from getting admitted back into the hospital because he wasn't interested in breastfeeding makes me awful. People need to make these decisions based on what is best for themselves and baby. Happy mom= happy baby.
And what is the risk in formula feeding? I was formula fed, as was my husband, and we turned out just fine.
PS- I am a huge breastfeeding advocate, it just didn't work out for us. I cried and cried over the decision to switch to formula, but it was what was best for my family.
I'm with you.
I pissed off an LC when I made the call to give DS formula to get his jaundice level lowered so that we could get him discharged to go home, but I was able to give him breast milk for 10 weeks before my supply started to dry up.
Women like the judgmental BFing bitch above are the reason why there are "Mommy Wars."
partial molar pregnancy : bfp 6.28.10, d/c 8.17.10, 7 rounds methotrexate, cleared 7.1.11 alexander patrick : bfp 1.16.12, born 9.20.12 @ 39w1d, 7 lbs./11 oz./22 in. scarlett irene elizabeth : bfp 5.24.13, born 2.3.14 @ 41w2d, 7 lbs./13 oz./19 in.
I'm so exhausted and I know breastmilk is best but I'm am seriously considering formula feeding to save my sanity.
This is why I went right to formula with my second. I was not willing to be so miserably exhausted again. Good luck. It's a difficult decision to come to.
How does switching to formula give you more sleep. I think rolling over and nursing baby is much more easy than getting up, going to the kitchen, making a bottle, than holding bottle until finished! Seriously! You signed up to be a parent when you had your baby. Why??? I just don't get it. You have a chance to give your child so much more. Why risk formula feeding when you don't have to? It's lazy!!
Honestly, you don't know her or her situation. At least she tried with her first and decided what was best on her second child. Having a newborn exhausting itself. She didn't say she's getting more sleep like you mentioned, she said she was exhausted.
I'm so exhausted and I know breastmilk is best but I'm am seriously considering formula feeding to save my sanity.
This is why I went right to formula with my second. I was not willing to be so miserably exhausted again. Good luck. It's a difficult decision to come to.
How does switching to formula give you more sleep. I think rolling over and nursing baby is much more easy than getting up, going to the kitchen, making a bottle, than holding bottle until finished! Seriously! You signed up to be a parent when you had your baby. Why??? I just don't get it. You have a chance to give your child so much more. Why risk formula feeding when you don't have to? It's lazy!!
What the actual fuck? So my supply is extremely low and I supplement with formula and I am therefore a bad mother?
There are names I want to call you that I cannot say on this board. I bet you won't even come back to respond to everyone. You will come in, post something shitty and completely out of line and then disappear. Actually, that's a good idea. Disappear!
Married 3/5/11
BFP: 6/19/12, D&C 8/23/12
BFP: 5/17/13, Born 12/16/2013
January Siggy Challenge: When I am done breastfeeding...
I'm so exhausted and I know breastmilk is best but I'm am seriously considering formula feeding to save my sanity.
This is why I went right to formula with my second. I was not willing to be so miserably exhausted again. Good luck. It's a difficult decision to come to.
How does switching to formula give you more sleep. I think rolling over and nursing baby is much more easy than getting up, going to the kitchen, making a bottle, than holding bottle until finished! Seriously! You signed up to be a parent when you had your baby. Why??? I just don't get it. You have a chance to give your child so much more. Why risk formula feeding when you don't have to? It's lazy!!
I agree with everyone else. My daughter lost almost two pounds in her first week. I pump and give her whatever milk I get plus she still breastfeeds. If needed I supplement with formula. Fairly certain not feeding my child makes me a bad parent. Breastfeeding isn't for everyone. If people try or chose not to try,that's their choice and they shouldn't be attacked.
I'm so exhausted and I know breastmilk is best but I'm am seriously considering formula feeding to save my sanity.
This is why I went right to formula with my second. I was not willing to be so miserably exhausted again. Good luck. It's a difficult decision to come to.
How does switching to formula give you more sleep. I think rolling over and nursing baby is much more easy than getting up, going to the kitchen, making a bottle, than holding bottle until finished! Seriously! You signed up to be a parent when you had your baby. Why??? I just don't get it. You have a chance to give your child so much more. Why risk formula feeding when you don't have to? It's lazy!!
I agree with everyone else. My daughter lost almost two pounds in her first week. I pump and give her whatever milk I get plus she still breastfeeds. If needed I supplement with formula. Fairly certain not feeding my child makes me a bad parent. Breastfeeding isn't for everyone. If people try or chose not to try,that's their choice and they shouldn't be attacked.
Now just go and leave our board alone!
All of the above minus the self righteous, judgemental BF advocate. Who the hell gave you the right to run in and bash another mother for what she chooses to do with HER child? She is choosing to do what works best for her situation. These mommy wars need to end- Unless they are abusing their child, keep your nose out of their business!
I'm so exhausted and I know breastmilk is best but I'm am seriously considering formula feeding to save my sanity.
This is why I went right to formula with my second. I was not willing to be so miserably exhausted again. Good luck. It's a difficult decision to come to.
How does switching to formula give you more sleep. I think rolling over and nursing baby is much more easy than getting up, going to the kitchen, making a bottle, than holding bottle until finished! Seriously! You signed up to be a parent when you had your baby. Why??? I just don't get it. You have a chance to give your child so much more. Why risk formula feeding when you don't have to? It's lazy!!
It's people like you that piss me off. Who the hell gave you the right to judge any one of us on how we feed our babies? Breast isn't always best. I chose to formula feed my daughter and it was better for us. Formula feeding DOES NOT make us any less of a mother than you are. Now you can GTFO.
I'm so exhausted and I know breastmilk is best but I'm am seriously considering formula feeding to save my sanity.
This is why I went right to formula with my second. I was not willing to be so miserably exhausted again. Good luck. It's a difficult decision to come to.
How does switching to formula give you more sleep. I think rolling over and nursing baby is much more easy than getting up, going to the kitchen, making a bottle, than holding bottle until finished! Seriously! You signed up to be a parent when you had your baby. Why??? I just don't get it. You have a chance to give your child so much more. Why risk formula feeding when you don't have to? It's lazy!!
You wouldn't be one of the nurses that was in my delivery room, would you? Jesus. People are amazing. I was sent on a huge guilt trip for not wanting to breastfeed my daughter right after I had her...by the nurse in my room and the doctor that delivered her.
No one has the right to be so rude and condescending towards a mother making the best decision for her and her child. Don't be so idiotic.
*I usually lurk most of the time but reading that just pissed me off.
Regarding make-up, I don't think I've worn any since my wedding last summer. Maybe some mascara? DH doesn't care one way or the other and since my job was in fast food (lots of grease and sweat) I just never really bothered.
The 'is this a sign of labor' posts don't really bother me. Most of the time because I want to be asking the same thing! It's only annoying to me if there are like 3 repeats of it a day. Some repeat posts aren't worth getting too worked up about I guess, esp with the board not being as active.
I'm not even going to engage the self-righteous sanctimommy who wrote about not formula feeding. I'm just gonna sit back and watch you better-worded ladies rip her a new one.
i have cramps, a backache and my due date is tomorrow... just saying
How is this an unpopular opinion?
@Shiway - Whether someone isn't able to or chooses not to BF is none of your business FFS. No woman on this board needs to justify their parenting choices to you. You're right about one thing. We all signed up to be mothers and so long as our LOs are clothed and fed, we're doing our job just fine.
I love how this totally random @shiway posts this totally insensitive, prick comment and never comes back.
To answer your question, @shiway, formula feeding can get you more sleep because your husband or significant other can now get up in the middle of the night and feed the baby. Duh.
Breast isn't always best for everyone. Some of us didn't make milk. Some of us have made the choice for our mental well being. Whatever the reason, it's none of your fucking business. And it's certainly not your place to make anyone feel guilty or shame about their decision. That makes YOU a terrible fucking person. Congratulations on being a judgmental bitch.
@aessary03 I think I love you for your comment. I looked at @shiway's other posts and most have that self righteous tone. Clearly she's mother of the year and everyone else sucks.
Re: UO Thursday
@PreDempsey, I was just talking about this this morning. The FB BMB group from DD is about 4 years old now and has none of the drama that you ever hear about with FB groups. A girl joined the January 2013 FB group and crazy shit went down this week apparently. I said I was toying with the idea of hopping over to our group because there is also no drama, but I'm scared that won't be the case.
DH is OOT next week, so maybe I'll come over then when I have a chance to learn people's names and match up to screen names.
@tootsscott - My UO is that I think foundation is the devil - I think it ages women. I'm a big believer into the moisturizer+powder combo.
@ccip82- Yes! There will be no pretend or real make-up until teen years in this house (I can make an exception for dance recitals). I also strongly dislike when little girls have nail-polish.
@RedSaffron - The nose-frida is all kinds of amazing!!! Get it 100%.
With DD, I had some post partum depression too. I didn't talk to anyone about it, but I wish I had! Just keep that in mind if you find the anxiety unbearable or taking over most of your day also!
@ccip82 I always swore that DD would have nothing to encourage society's views of women, i.e. fake makeup, a beauty salon chair, vanity mirror, etc. Don't you know that little turkey has outsmarted me? She has "grown up" watching Mommy put on her makeup and now she is into it! If I put on chapstick she wants some "lipstick" too. When I do full face, she uses clean brushes to put on her full face too. While I have yet to buy her play makeup, until she's older, I have a feeling she will be fighting me for some before she's 10.
PCOS diagnosed secondary infertility
BFP #1 (letrozole 2.5mg + ovidrel) February 2016, MMC April 2016 @ 7 weeks
BFP #2 (letrozole 5mg + ovidrel) July 2016, Beta #1 359, Beta #2 745, Beta #3 11484
EDD April 9th, 2017
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ETA: oh yeah, she's cluster feeding like I mentioned in my first UO
partial molar pregnancy : bfp 6.28.10, d/c 8.17.10, 7 rounds methotrexate, cleared 7.1.11
alexander patrick : bfp 1.16.12, born 9.20.12 @ 39w1d, 7 lbs./11 oz./22 in.
scarlett irene elizabeth : bfp 5.24.13, born 2.3.14 @ 41w2d, 7 lbs./13 oz./19 in.
partial molar pregnancy : bfp 6.28.10, d/c 8.17.10, 7 rounds methotrexate, cleared 7.1.11
alexander patrick : bfp 1.16.12, born 9.20.12 @ 39w1d, 7 lbs./11 oz./22 in.
scarlett irene elizabeth : bfp 5.24.13, born 2.3.14 @ 41w2d, 7 lbs./13 oz./19 in.
Who invited the self righteous breast feeder to the board? Your comments are way out of line. "You signed up to be a parent." Are you fucking kidding me? People who formula feed now aren't parents? You are off your fucking rocker. And to call formula feeding lazy? Take your bitchy, holier than thou attitude and get the fuck out.
partial molar pregnancy : bfp 6.28.10, d/c 8.17.10, 7 rounds methotrexate, cleared 7.1.11
alexander patrick : bfp 1.16.12, born 9.20.12 @ 39w1d, 7 lbs./11 oz./22 in.
scarlett irene elizabeth : bfp 5.24.13, born 2.3.14 @ 41w2d, 7 lbs./13 oz./19 in.
partial molar pregnancy : bfp 6.28.10, d/c 8.17.10, 7 rounds methotrexate, cleared 7.1.11
alexander patrick : bfp 1.16.12, born 9.20.12 @ 39w1d, 7 lbs./11 oz./22 in.
scarlett irene elizabeth : bfp 5.24.13, born 2.3.14 @ 41w2d, 7 lbs./13 oz./19 in.
There are names I want to call you that I cannot say on this board. I bet you won't even come back to respond to everyone. You will come in, post something shitty and completely out of line and then disappear. Actually, that's a good idea. Disappear!
All of the above minus the self righteous, judgemental BF advocate. Who the hell gave you the right to run in and bash another mother for what she chooses to do with HER child? She is choosing to do what works best for her situation.
These mommy wars need to end- Unless they are abusing their child, keep your nose out of their business!
It's people like you that piss me off. Who the hell gave you the right to judge any one of us on how we feed our babies? Breast isn't always best. I chose to formula feed my daughter and it was better for us. Formula feeding DOES NOT make us any less of a mother than you are. Now you can GTFO.
To answer your question, @shiway, formula feeding can get you more sleep because your husband or significant other can now get up in the middle of the night and feed the baby. Duh.
Breast isn't always best for everyone. Some of us didn't make milk. Some of us have made the choice for our mental well being. Whatever the reason, it's none of your fucking business. And it's certainly not your place to make anyone feel guilty or shame about their decision. That makes YOU a terrible fucking person. Congratulations on being a judgmental bitch.
Emma Kate - born 10.16.03 @ 29 weeks, weighed 1lb 13oz and 13.5" long.
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Up all night was my favorites show!!!! Ava ... Keep on watching & growing
Ditto!!